The conclusion to a two-episode battle comes tonight in about half an hour! Will it be Ash, who has trained for 20 years and is long overdue for a heroic victory, or the Mega Evolution champion Alain?
THIS IS POKÉMON HISTORY IN THE MAKING PEOPLE! As the image above suggest, we WILL be sharing who comes out victorious so you have been warned. Please use the comments below for your anime discussion. There are various ways to watch Japanese TV online, such as with programs like Keyhole TV, or other methods but we will not be sharing any links to questionable livestreams, sorry. Do at your own risk.
AND THE WINNER IS… Alain!
Let’s enjoy some anime! Is it a coincidence we also get to see new Pokémon Sun & Moon footage today? Hmm…
<3 PJ
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Poor Ash… Well, 7 is a lucky number, he’ll win in next gen maybe?
That’s it; I’m done with hoping that anything will change with the anime.
I know I was so shocked, I honestly though Ash was going to win. I don’t even know if I’m going to watch the Pokemon anime anymore……
There’s pretty much no point. Their formula is more clear than ever now.
Well, we might have hope, this next gen doesn’t have a true Pokemon League like the Orange Islands, so Ash might win.
Not that it would even matter.
He won the Orange Island League against an undefeated opponent with a Dragonite.
The Orange Islands was meaningless. Just like the Battle Frontier.
At it was meaningless how? Both places challenged Ash, both help him get strong and both where wins for him.
The orange islands allowed Ash to rechallenge the gyms if he lost, and he only had to win one battle with a champion at the end. The champion isn’t even that strong either, since he focused entirely on his Dragonite, which is why Ash still had 4 Pokemon left by the time he sent out Dragonite.
The battle frontier also lets Ash rechallenge until he wins. Didn’t he lose to the last guy twice before winning?
So, Ash has rechallenged Gyms before in main Leagues. Look at Wulfic(I dont know if I spelled that right.) Look at Clair. And Brandon had used the Regis. So I don’t think Battle frontier was a waste of time, and neither was Orange League. Because in the end it helped Ash and Charizard bond. So take your misguided and misinformed hate else where. And leave the fans that have TRULY been watching the series since day 1.
been watching since day one. 20 long years. you are in denial. Orange league was filler and doesn’t count. The frontier brains don’t count because they havn’t been referenced at all. that is what makes it pointless. the fact he made it through the battle frontier should earn Ash recognition, but it didn’t. he should have global renown by know due to his near victories in each league. This is the crux of the issue. the anime doesn’t let Ash as a character evolve.
Because they were just half baked mini challenges. Not real Pokémon Leagues.
You, you say that. But Ash had to complete Challenges that relied on skill and trust in his Pokemon. A Pokemon battle is easy enough, but when you start trying to go beyond that it gets hard look at the Pokemon Contests in the show. So if you think they are mini challenges, think again. They where just as hard if not harder then the Gyms Ash had to face. And the Battle frontier was one of Ash’s hardest challenges. Especially Brandon. So no they where not half baked mini challenges.
Believe what you wanna believe, dude. But the fact that Ash can win those and not a championship gives most the impression they’re minor, which they are. And the fact that Ash can’t win a championship shows how lazy the writers are.
every season all ash skill have learned reduced back to trash… no point watching it… so much plot holes
The only thing I see ash winning is the Alola trials, maybe since they’re so far removed from the conventional League the writers will let him “win” like he did in the orange islands.
To me it will feel sorta cheap because its not a win that was done with the conventional type league like orange island was except this has some officallness to it.I am torn of the out come when they get around to it
Guys Gamescom is On! check Youtube!
Only doing singing at the moment. Oddly singing in English despite being in Germany 😛
And I never thought knowing German would come in handy.
Lol what a pathetic piece of shit battle. Done with anime, this is ridiculous.
I Love Pokemon and Anime!
Liquidate the anime, kill Ash and reboot the fucking series or focus on Origins. How can they after 20 years still make him lose?
What are your guys’ ideal team? Mine is: Zoroark (starter), Gardevoir, Salamence, Milotic, Lucario and Volcarona (shiny). (if pkm were real, not talking about competitive battling)
Mine is Scyther (my personal favorite, and in this case the starter), Arcanine, Lucario, Tyrantrum, Milotic and Pidgeot (with a Mega Stone, heh)
Lucario’s amazing indeed 🙂 I would want to get one of my pkm through an egg, maybe riolu or bagon?
Riolu is the one that needs bond with the trainer, so him. We’ll have enough trouble raising Feebas’ beauty though… lol
Yeah, that’s what I thought. And concerning feebas, nothing that make up and some flattering can’t fix 😉
Yeah, make up. LOTS OF IT.
I think I’m the only one that does not evolve Scyther into Scizor this days….
Feebas is not that bad tbh, it just needs some lipstick. I love scizor more than scyther but I get you.
It’s like twins: Scyther is the collest one, Scizor is the sucessful one….
Umbreon(my stater evolved from an Eevee), Ninetales, Togekiss, Empoleon, Torterra, and Luxray
Ninetales: which one? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The original lol but I do love it’s a loan form?
Well, now we can have both on the same team. Different, yet the same!
Yes I was thinking about doing just that! Fire?and ❄ice!
Fire always beats ice
Lapras Cloyster etc
They’re part water, and besides Lapras and Cloyster are bulky as fuck
Wow, I forgot Lapras! Man, I’m so sad right now…
Sarcasm?
Me? Not at all, I’m sad I forgot Lapras and put Milotic in… Altough it’s a very close call between the two for me….
Hey sorry I realised that after I posted it haha 🙂
OMG I just thought of something! What about an ice type that have an ability to turn it into a water type when hit by a fire type move?! That would be epic! ?❄?
They should do a Pokemon based on a the states of water shifting from Water, Ice, and….I guess Flying but that means it has to have a Psychic primary type since the whole pure flying thing
Would u settle for a Psychic Water Molecule? That shifts type based on what hits it
I could settle for that! it’s a really unique idea and I would love to see a pokemon like that.
Do you always pay your debts? And I hope you have no simblings
Valar Morghulis
Glad Arya got away from that city. Would you fancy some cake?
I’ll pass lol but I really thought waif was going to get her! Glad she didn’t cause she’s one of my favorite characters.
Same! I was actually scared when waif kept running after her like a psycho haha. I think that’s the test she needed to pass though. And as much as I hated cersei before I can’t help but love her for being so bad. Blowing up a whole cathedral full of people she hated was amazing. And the sip of wine she took afterwards? x)
I know waif had that crazy terminator run down pat! I also loved the cersei moment at the end. And the look on the high sparrows face when he heard the rumbling was like( dang I just messed up didn’t i?) And danerys and her fleet of ships and dragons oh boy I can’t wait for the next season!
I want dany to kill everyone
I just hope she doesn’t go murder crazy…. it does run in the family lol
I think she will haha She’ll eventually get the throne and realize that that’s not what she wants. Westeros’s completely destroyed so she decides to kill herself. The end
Now it’s time for cersei to burn! Drogon I choose you!
I’m getting one for my first playthrough
(Not for nothing that sounds like the most generic of generic teams some offense)
Hmmm that’s a very good question
In the whole Pokeverse myself exists on two different choices
Pure Ground Monos and The current Generation’s Pokemon
Obviously Rhyperior and Excadrill are a must
But then again Heracross, Emboar and Aerodactyl are usually my inner circle
They are very popular pkm but they’re the ones that I love. Salamance has been my fave dragon since it was revealed, milotic is beautiful and gracious and my fave water type. I’ve always chosen gardevoir even before the mega and fairy type, Lucario’s just awesome and you can talk to him, volcarona is strong and cool and finally Zoroark is one of my favorite pokemon ever (I love dark type)
*Yawn* I stopped listening after Popular, because everyone has nearly the same thing nowadays as those populars rank high on the charts and get all the attention
I don’t play competitive so I don’t care about that. Out of all the pseudo legendaries, salamence is the only one I actually like. And we’re talking about real life here, a gardevoir would be way more useful (teleport, hello?) than an excadrill or rhyperior.
It’s called demolishing everything in my path
Lucario and milotic alone would kill them right away
Solid Rock into Super Effective Earthquake and Metal Burst
Still, with a weak special defense like that it ain’t going far
Don’t forget Solid Rock reduces SE damage and whenever i use Rhyperior Hippowdon is never far away which means you’ll fight me in the sand which boosts my SP Def by 50% and I’m usually sporting Assault Vest or Focus Sash
All I need to do is endure the hit then Metal Bust
Milotic just needs to use rain dance. And we’re talking about REAL LIFE, if pokemon existed. Items like that wouldn’t exist + who the hell would keep changing pokemon every other round?
If this were Pokemon real life
I’d use Rhyperior to bore into the ground and break it from underneath and cause a huge hole to swallow up Milotic and though Milotic can mildly levitate it cannot achieve flight of any kinda flight so it’s literally shooting fish in a barrel from that point
It can just keep surfing when rhyperior goes underground + it has recover
Not when it’s buried underground
It can fill the hole with water
And while you do that a nose dive Megahorn directly on top of it
Protect
Then rush it into a wall with swords dance and as soon as protect fades or shatters I’ll use Rock Wrecker at point blank range
That will definitely destroy Milotic
Milotic’s way faster than Rhyperior, good luck catching up with it
Pikachu as my starter.
Gengar
Garchomp
Tyranitar
Milotic
Greninja
The pikachu and greninja though. Ash?
At least he wins every league…
How did you know I’m ash :
But yeah pikachu as my starter.
Greninja was a close call with Feraligatr
Haxorus, Empoleon, Arcanine, Gengar, Pidgeot and Luxray (I didn’t choose some of my favorite Pokémon like Samurott and Dragalge because of double typings).
Starter: Sneasel to evolve to Weavile
Ambipom
Popplio
Politoed
Porygon2
Torterra
Edit
Weavile
Popplio
Politoed
Torterra
Goodra
Flygon
I love ambipom, why leave it out : O
True I was having trouble with the list knowing I want Ambipom and Porygon2 yet also Flygon and Goodra actually my team
Weavile
Ambipom
Goodra
Politoed
Torterra
Porygon2
Popplio can be saved for later use.
Weavile is also one of my favorite pokemon ( partly for being half dark) + ambipom’s so cool.
Togekiss (starter)
Torterra
Ampharos
Arcanine
Zangoose
Quagsire
Swirlix
Clefable
White Florges
Raichu
Banette
Gorebyss
Oooh great question. I’d use
Garchomp (starter)
Hydreigon
Sceptile
Charizard
Greninja
Yanmega
fact is I’m not even sure I have a favourite poké, there are loads that I adore, this is just the team I’d pictured myself with in an anime-style world.
(Lol I know this stream is long abandoned, but couldn’t resist answering :p )
The giant shuriken looked like it didn’t even damaged Charizard. These writers are a bunch of frauds. Should deactivate their lives.
Fantastic episode. This really was Ash’s ultimate match.
It is a shame it didn’t go his way, as I’d have loved for him to win.
For the team and trainer he was up against he did better than I ever thought was possible after BW.
Great episode and let’s see what happens now with Zygarde 🙂
Writers will try to earn our trust back, by having Ash beat Zygarde 100% and save Kalos, or something along that line. Bunch of frauds the lot of them
Ah the writers have my trust. It was a great battle I’m sad at the outcome but it truly was an ultimate battle. 🙂
Ultimate battle? Goodra v Bisharp was better than Greninja v Charizard. The writers made a very bad decision, with ratings of the anime already dropping because Yokai.
I’m going to be training my fire type Pokemon,so how many hours left until we get some gameplay on Pokemon Sun and Moon?
Who cares SUN & MOON stream in 3ish hours!!!!
Yeaaah SUN & MOON!
Let’s see maybe Pikipek Evo, at least one Starter Evo., new Alolan form (Dragonite), Town/City name!!!
let’s hope so.
Or how exactly trials will work and are we still doing the thing to show the livestream
Uhhh would it really kill the writers to let him win a legit finals match? It would do great for his character development. He seems stronger every season, and yet he still can’t win a league. Such a shame they do this every time. Would not be surprised if he wins the Alolan “league” though, but that doesn’t hold much of a candle to him winning a traditional league challenge, imo. Oh well. 🙁
Oh wow, Matsumoto is trending on Twitter. Think she’ll be subject to A LOT of abuse. This was to be expected.
Watch the writers pull a fast one after seeing the ratings, and give Ash the title at the end of the TF arc to sooth people.
It’s 5:00 where i am!
5:00pm Germany time
So how many hours left?!
Just under 3
Dang slow time!
Everywhere cause in US under 3 as well
Then I think it’s time we had someone else do the TV show. Ash has had 20 years to win, and he hasn’t yet. He’s not a Pokémon Master and he doesn’t catch them all. Bad Ash! You don’t obey Pokémon’s rules. We need a new protagonist.
As long as he has Popplio I’m fine
Hopefully a salandit will poison and kill Ash even before he has the chance to get a starter
Kill the writers, not Ash
All of them
I can’t!! This comment made my morning!!! Lmao! Salsa fit killing ash… No, they need to throw a wheezing and a salad it in a room with the writers and let them use smog to see how that feels.
couldnt agree more
Unless they plan on rebooting the series, there is literally no viable argument that supports the outcome of this episode. Ratings have been steadily dropping for a long time now, and if they had Ash win it, it would’ve gone back to growing again.
The new writers for XY still suck at this they are even worse than the last ones!!!!
They replaced the B/W writers with these guys and for a very long time, it all looked so good, and they just destroyed all of that with one fucked up decision.
For me personally I would like him to be a little like BW catching lots of unique Pokemon and broadening his team but no!
Guys gamescom is starting!
Where’s the stream then?? Oh right we have to wait
Check Youtube!
Mind posting a link I can’t get it and only here for Pokemon!
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0hbHxvKCro
Does Sun and moon start at 11?
I dunno.
Hmmm well let’s just watch
OK! XD
It stars in less than 3 hours
Ok Yeah yet what time exactly 8:30, 9, 10?
I live in Paris, which means it’s the same time here as in Cologne. It’ll start at 17h here, idk there (and it’s 14h25)
Aww I guess I have to watch
Good thing I know a small bit of German yet I can’t tell what they say
I could make fries with all this salt.
Tasty Tasty Fries!!!
um you do kn ow to much salt can kill you right? this is 20 years worth of ash losing salt, thats enough to make the salt water ocean just salt oceans
alolas waters
yummy yummy yum!!!
Olympia is a fraud, she rustled the entire anime fanbase with one sentence. ”Both of you will reach new heights together”
That moment Ash is trending worldwide, but most of it is filled with negative comments about how they’ll never watch the anime again. #PokemonAnimeisoverparty #Ashdeservestowin #MakePokemonAnimeGreatAgain
Gimme the hashtags, i want in.
Okay Ash you suck at the gym challenge. Go try the island challenge down in Alola.
They literally pulled a Tobias, again. Starting to suspect they’re doing it on purpose.
I woke up just to stream (illegally) the episode to witness Pokemon history, but instead simply witnessed fraud in person. Alain did not win in my eyes. Ash did and that’s all that matters. Poor writing coupled with terrible excuses are how the episode was made. And yes, I’m very salty, now go make me some fries.
I dont want to see Alain’s face, every again.
happy belated bday 🙂