Pokémon has officially revealed the new Zygarde Formes and we have some new information for each:
Zygarde Cell
This stage has been identified as the single Cells that make up Zygarde. Cells do not possess any will or thought processes. They’re found scattered throughout the region. Since they can’t use any moves, researchers question whether they can even be called Pokémon!
Zygarde Core
At this stage, this aspect of Zygarde is little more than a part of the Pokémon’s brain. Unlike the Cells, the Cores are self-aware and can communicate with Cells and other Cores via telepathy. When a change occurs in the local region’s ecosystem, Cores have been known to take action.
Zygarde 10% Forme
Zygarde 10% is the Forme that the Zygarde Core takes when it gathers 10% of the Cells nearby. Capable of traveling over 60 mph (100 km/h), it defeats enemies with its sharp fangs and its incredible speed.
Zygarde 50% Forme
This Legendary Pokémon watches over and maintains the local ecosystem. Until recently, this was the only known Forme of Zygarde. In actuality, this Forme only has 50% of the Cells in its structure.
Zygarde Complete Forme
This is the perfect Forme that Zygarde takes when the Core gathers 100% of the Cells. When the ecosystem is under threat, and the Core concludes that the 50% Forme will be unable to deal with it, the Core takes on the Complete Forme. Its power is said to be greater than that of the Legendary Pokémon Xerneas and Yveltal!
Ash’s Greninja
Ash’s Greninja takes on a mysterious new appearance in the latest season! Ash-Greninja is the form that Greninja takes when the bond between it and Ash is raised to the limit. The strength of their bond changes Greninja’s appearance, and it takes on the characteristic look of Ash’s attire. This phenomenon is also said to have happened just once several hundred years ago in the Kalos region, but it remains shrouded in mystery.
This could be a reference to AZ’s Floette which has a special appearance. We’ll find out more closer to the game’s release hopefully 🙂
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Hmph
So then it’s not a Mega or fusion. It happened 100 years ago?! AZ’s Floette’s Flower maybe was the other bonding event?
Oh wait no. Why did I say that? That was 3,000 years ago. I’m such an idiot.
It says “several hundread years ago”, so it’s more than just 100 years. It could be 3000 if you think “several hundred” can mean “30 hundred” or “a few millennia”.
The question still stands though. Who exactly had the bond hundreds of years ago?
Game art usually looks better than the Anime art. There occurs some shading and coloration differences. That’s why those designs seem somewhat plain.
I really think there’s too much thing going on for one Pokemon, but anyway.
Zygarde is so confused by its multiple personalities and is extremely upset about its Dick-Knees
in 3d modeling they use something like V- ray light it’s simulate the standard of the real light cuz of this u can see the accurate in shading and color.
I’m not talking about 3d modeling ingame. I’m talking about Anime art and Game art.
game art is 3d model art isn’t it ?
I mean the Sugimori art made for games, let me show an example:
http://i.imgur.com/Ry4mZF4.jpg
i would like about this topic long time ago most people like Sugimori art but that not the only problem …the new anime team is lazy compare Charizard in gen1 anime with gen 5 and 6 he looks like pregnant look at mega Rayquaza in the anime and his 3 model in the game ….in the game it’s shining and glowing in the anime it’s just fukin Pale.
I’m really thinking that Greninja has Protean but now they say it happened once several hundred years ago, so maybe it’s something more ?
I’m pretty sure its already confirmed that his Greninja has Protean.
“This phenomenon is also said to have happened just once several hundred years ago in the Kalos region” = AZ and his Floette?
No I think it’s a reference to what the little ol woman says in the game about the froakie who turned into a human… Paraphrasing
I hope he doesn’t turn into Ash, god imagine having two of him, he can lose every league twice.
so fucking savage lmao
Okay. Just so people know, this is NOT Mega Greninja. Greninja has become a staple Pokémon to the company, and they’ll give it Mega treatment in the same vain as Charizard.
Also, if Zygarde Cell makes up each form and makes the form vary, will we be able to control how many Zygarde Cell are put into Zygarde?
Maybe there’s an item called “Cell Controller” or “Core Controller” or something like that.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking.
Like maybe you can choose between 10%, 50%, and 100% Cell to deposit.
We just talked about that. Haven’t you heard of listing your sources?! Plagiarism. ?
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Because the article focuses so much on the anime aspect, I’m actually starting to worry if a game is even planned at all. Lol. But why would they say all this stuff about the forms, if it wasn’t going to be in a game.
If they don’t reveal a game they’ll probably finish Gen 6 Origins style.
It’s interesting that they reveal the forms in the anime before any games. Something that has never been done before. And apparently TPCI knows about the leaks. As they posted the info a day earlier than the 15th. Wasn’t expecting the reveal till tomorrow.
I mean, its the 15th in Japan right now I believe, so…
Just realized the dog has a leash.
Like earlier stated…
Furries must be proud (and excited).
yup ……and the core it’s just like a dog’s collar .
“The form Greninja takes when the bond between it and Ash is raised to the limit.” Oh god no, please, no. T.T
I just realized.. The “horde of faceless men” could they be Zygarde cells? .-.
So two things where is the Core on 50% Forme? every other core related forme has a red hexagon, second if the core has a red hexagon where does the blue come from, and notice the Core description states it communicates with other Cores as well as Cells. Does this mean it might take two Cores to hold Complete Forme together? and if so where’s the Blue Core (and more importantly is this a BS excuse to Sell a XZ and YZ pair of games?)
Also Ash’s Greninja is a just a stupid playing favorites with Gamefreaks undeserved golden boy Pokemon, it’ll be a dumb half-assed mechanic the Mega-Evolution Anime Special uses to justify either not giving all the Kalos Starters Megas, or not revealing the actual Megas but still giving Ash a purpose in the Special
I mean this Ash-Greninja is pretty cool. It looks like it’ll be taken in the same vain as Spiky-Eared Pichu, where it makes an appearance in the anime and is them obtained through a distribution in-game. It’s just a way to tie in the anime and the games.
Interesting you bring that up! I actually didn’t notice until now that the Core and the 10% form have only red and green featured in them and no blue. It is possible we could get two versions as I can see Zygarde 10% and Zygarde Complete being mascots. Or perhaps, their hexagons animate between red and blue. But right now, I feel like one version what they’re aiming for.
i think red and blue color in perfect is unrelated to any core it related to Xernenas and Yveltal life an death as myth said ..but ” where is the Core on 50% Form?” that’s a good question , i predict when Zygarde become to transform to his complete form he open the his slit open then the core appear inside it then crown head pop up from it and the core appear in his third eye also.. just predicting .
Let me understand, Pikachu didn’t get this bond change after 20 years with Ash, but Greninja will, in two months?
That is a damn good point…maybe Pikachu isn’t capable because it isn’t fully evolved? I bet Pikachu will get jealous in the anime.
Seriously though, Pikachu needs to evolve.
That’s what I was thinking..
I was surprised they gave a pokemon Other than Pikachu something based on bonds
And pikachu Wont get jealous..
Pikachu has little to no personality after the first few seasons. .
It will just be Ecstatic like Ash
I think that people want Pikachu to stay the same because if it changed now people would get upset.
Greninja seems to be the Gen 6 mascot Pokémon, and since its new, they can change it to their liking.
Fans wouldn’t care..
Majority would like it…
Seeing as how it only happens at specific moments it would seem..
It would actually be amazing.
Though I’m sure they are using the same reasoning for why not give it to his Pikachu instead.
Plus if Pikachu did it then his other pokemon wouldn’t..
Likely they want it 1 per team like megas
Maybe it has something to do with Greninja’s protean? Thats what I speculated before.
Yea. I was thinking about that. I don’t think his Froakie or Frogadier ever showed off the Torrent ability. I might be wrong about that.
Exactly what I was thinking. Greninja has been here for a shorting amount of time. Maybe, it’s because Pikachu is the mascot of the series. Who knows? I guess their not going to nerf Greninja…
I don’t know If either article has said this but the anime will be named Pokemon XY&Z.
Have we ever got an anime Before the game.?
Z is proof enough it exists…
It starts the end of October..
So maybe we get it in October???? No?.. :/
And this will Definitely be a game mechanic..
Hopefully not limited to so few pokemon like Pikachu and it a clothing
Do you mean an anime that didn’t correspond with a specific game? Orange Islands doesn’t.
no I mean one thing that did.
I don’t feel the islands can be compared to Z
Well I’m not surprised that this info was officially revealed today, but I am surprised that the US site updated for it. I swear to god if they actually keep us on the hook I’m gonna scream!!! Oops…….guess I just did hahaha
https://www.reddit.com/r/Marriland/comments/3kxaqu/new_zygarde_formes_ashgreninja_and_pokémon_xyz/cv19jnc So, Marriland thinks that the Zygarde forms won’t even be in the game. Lol. But he does have some interesting points. I think the anime name “Pokemon XY & Z” could be a red herring. It could not indicate anything at all and the games could still come in a pair. Anyways, if we don’t get a game/games and the Zygarde forms are just anime exclusive mon’s (particularly Core, 10%, and Complete), I will be so pissed off at Game Freak!
But it states in the game Pokedex entries; “When the Kalos region’s ecosystem falls into disarray, it appears and reveals its secret power.” Why would they tease it in the game?
I don’t think GF would care so much if the forms were anime only. If they were I feel like Masuda wouldn’t have bothered tweeting about it. Ash Greninja may just b for the anime, but Zygarde I’m pretty positive will have all forms in game.
just remember Carbink’s form where is it in the game ?
Yeah, but Carbink isn’t a legendary or a starter so I feel like that doesn’t really count. Plus GF never made a point to get peoples attention on them if I recall so they weren’t as big of a deal anyway.
actually i would love to see Carbink form in the game but maybe it’s like Floette’s Eternal form.
I’m not agreeing with that. I have to agree with @disqus_FlF7CnrSPX:disqus . The Pokedex entry in X/Y already eluded to this. I don’t know if GameFreak will do a double release or a singular one. Yet, it’s evident that were going to get another game. Ash-Greninja is highly the thing that’s anime only. I 100% doubt that these forms are just created for the anime. That would seriously be a waste of resources and ideas.
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Either they are giving us a new game soon, or this is the most super effective trolling they have EVER done to the fandom.
So the questions of the day is.
What’s the conversion of mph/kmh to speed stat?
These are some of the ones I could find (does not include Pokemon speeds for digging)
Arcanine – 258.3 mph – 95 speed
Rapidash – 150 mph – 105 speed
Doduo – 60 mph – 75 speed
Dodrio – 40 mph – 100 speed
Dragonite – 1556 mph – 80 speed
Skarmory – 190 mph – 70 speed
Linoone – 60 mph – 100 speed
Sharpedo – 75 mph – 95 speed
Archeops – 25 mph (running) – 110 speed
Tornadus – 200 mph – 111 speed
Talonflame – 310 mph – 126 speed
Correlation (x-mph,y-speed) – Weak, Negative
Equation to estimate speed stat using mph (very approximated b/c of weak correlation) – y(x)=99.762521156195-0.010391455294648x
y(60)=99
Lol. I can tell form the first 2 that GF literally pull numbers out of the air.
I expect it to be slightly higher than 99 considering regular Zygarde is 95 already. Maybe 110-120.
of course you figure it out… Nerd. 😉
I need to use my limited stats knowledge for something! 😛
I believe “Ash Greninja” will be exclusive to the anime, yes, but some of these elements could transfer over to the next game. Similar to Cosplay Pikachu you could be able to dress your fully-evolved starter; limiting this cosmetic change to just 3 Pokemon instead of everyone would be much easier design-wise. And similarly, you could be given a Zygarde Core early in the game and have to track down 10 Zygarde Cell Formes throughout the Southern Kalos region to obtain 10% Forme. From there, an event, or item, could trigger it’s 50% Forme. And in this game Yveltal and Xerneas could be there at the same time causing an unbalance of life/death. So, capturing these Pokemon after a cataclysmic event could then fuse with 50% Zygarde and thereby become Complete Forme. The point is: there’s many possibilities but I just don’t think it will be restricted to only the anime.
The one thing I question is the description for Ash Greninja. Does the change caused by the bonds effect the normal evolution and Greninja just looks like this all the time or is there something similar to mega evolution happening where it’s only temporary. It is possible they’re trying to make it seem like Ash has such a strong bond with Greninja that it totally circumvents the need for a key stone and mega stone so it’s almost like a pseudo mega evolution where it gets a slight power increase, but it’s not totally a mega either.
Finally. At least the localized news clarifies on the information a bit more. I knew the Zygarde Cells would be dispersed throughout Kalos. I’m going to take a guess that Team Flare is trying to collect all of them in the next game. I’m suprised that their just isn’t one core. Zygarde really is a neat concept. Also, now I’m completely convinced that Ash-Greninja is anime only. It just seems like it. Maybe, their might be an event in the upcoming games allowing you to obtain it (Similar to Spiky-Eared Pichu). Still, they haven’t clearly elaborated upon it. I can’t wait to see the true details.
I hope that I can get my precious precious Imperfect!Zygarde. Whosagoodboy?
I wonder if the reason we didn’t get a game announcement before the Zygarde reveal is because we aren’t actually getting “Z”? For the time being, I’m actually entertaining the idea of another set of sequels in the vein of BW2. So, perhaps the “XZ / YZ” esque release features Zygarde heavily, but the actual mascots are upgraded versions of Xerneas and Yveltal? Similar to BW2, the one that wasn’t captured in their respective game takes half the focus (and receives a new forme, mega, primal, whatever), while Zygarde is given the other half as it tries to cope with the balance issues of the region created by one of the trio members having been captured and the other one getting a power boost. You could encounter Zygarde and its various forms throughout the game before you are tasked to capture it and have it join forces with you to for the quest to return things to normal (or maybe you capture it early on and are tasked with going around to gather cells). Once you stop stop Xerneas/Yveltal, they take after Kyurem and retreat until you encounter them again in the post game or something.
I dunno. Just tinkering with ideas here…
Interesting perspective, I like it a lot. Sounds pretty plausable
Honestly what I’m hoping we get out of this is gen 6.5. As long as it has new pokes, i’m good.
I hope we get new Pokes too, but at this point I’m starting to think maybe it won’t happen. I think that mostly contributes to the fact that Zygarde Core ended up being part of Zygarde and not a new Poke so it lowered my expectations of brand new Pokes coming in this new game. Either way I suppose we’ll kno soon(in a month?) lol
So the question is
What does this have to do with flowers?
It may not have anything to do with flowers. They could have been talking about another element that has yet to b revealed
if they didn’t reveal anything about it.. it could the crown chakra represented by lotus flower …..sorry i can’t explain more cuz i did that many time .
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Don’t think he was blocked
i can’t he still human by the way .
Zygarde uses flowers to transform like Shaymin.
CONFIRMED
Zygarde 110% is a flower
The whole flowers thing may be more about the relationship between the ecosystem and Zygarde. An imbalance to nature causes the cells and core to combine, depending on the severity of the imbalance. Much so that flowers can also connect us back to AZ’s Floette.
It’s kind of how GF said that XY was for the coordinates on a plane. Yet, we saw some gender differences (not talking like a long horn vs a short one) in the XY games. We also have the mega evolution symbol resembling the double helix of DNA.
So, flowers may mean multiple things.
In Biology, flowers are generally taught with genetics to represent codominance. That may have something to do with it?
Precisely what I was hoping someone would say! Plant genetics have much more variety that animal models (hell, even bacterial and viral ones). Plants can have up to 4 sex chromosomes and they have even more that houses all the alleles for their genes.
Since their variability is so high, I’m guessing that may be an intuitive reason for Zygarde having various appearances in its forms; assuming the whole ecosystem/Zygarde complex holds to what plant genetics is.
If we look at it this way, Zygarde can be symbolized as the embodiment of the ecosystem. As the imbalance begins to become more severe, it alters it’s gene expression (kind of hematopoetic stems do as they mature from your bone marrow at this very moment!) to look like the forms it takes.
This also brings me back to my biofilm hypothesis, but I’ll regurgitate that later if you’d like to know. Otherwise, I have to go back to work.
Go science!
#microbiologyisbestbiology
I think Ash-Greninja might get an exclusive move.
i was think about that too ..like Floette’s Eternal form .
Such a treasure trove of information, sweet succulent information
Sadly i was at work all day and missed the speculation an discussions