Pokémon Smash! June 23 — FINISHED!

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  • Pokémon Smash is LIVE!
  • This weeks anime episode is Snivy Plays Hard to Catch!
  • Our favourite gang of Genesect are back.
  • This time they’re taking a look at some fan creations, including some pretty nice looking Genesect origami.
  • Taking a brief look at the upcoming episode of the anime from BW Season 2: Da! and movie with a special guest
  • Off to a mens’ clothing store… a shirt…
  • Time for a little sing song.
  • Eevee Friends segment is up next!
  • A new look at the upcoming movie short
  • Time for the X & Y segment!
  • Taking a look at Talonflame…
  • Noivern next
  • A little focus on the Jirachi download and the Pokémon in Scramble U obtainable via an NFC figure.
  • And we’re done for this week.
  • Next week we’ll get a look and Sky battles and horde encounters in X & Y!
  • It’s confirmed we’ll have the pleasure of a Zubat horde!

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  1. Probably nothing new thats big, but perhaps some footage we can pick apart and find some new little detail to speculate on.

  2. Remember guys, if the stream stops working let me know and I’ll try fix it. Should all be good this week though.

  3. Hmm I wounder what they will show. Whatever is I bet E3 beat them to it. I’m just saying.

    1. Hmm, that may be an issue your end… I’ll fiddle quickly during the next break, it’s fine watching on my iPad.

  4. Today they’re going to announce that next week they are going to announce something.

  5. I’m on my phone and new new here. Is it normal to the only see half the screen?

  6. Man, Ustream sucks… So much ad -.- if there would be something, I couldn’t see it. Also it “buffers” every minute.
    Besides, will you stream the special at 11th July?

    1. I agree, the designs doesn’t look as significant as what staraptor had. But what about the 3 stripes on its tail?

      1. We just got confirmation on smash that it isn’t.

        Fletchling (Baby Bird) -> Talonflame (Falcon) -> ??? (Hawk)

        That’s how it will be.

          1. It’s what they said.

            As for that evolution line, that’s my assumption.

          2. False. They didn’t say anything like that. Read what moving said.

            OK, guys… NL, one of PJs translators, got someone to take a look back at the episode. As far as they saw there was no mention of Talonflame being able to evolve, not being the final form of the line or anything along those lines.

            For now everything we know know about Talonflame is as is. Smash did not reveal anything significant. We will check back again later, but don’t keep your hopes up.

        1. Really? Talonflame isn’t the final evolution are you sure you heard that? For me Talonflame looks like the final evolution.

          1. And in the video of the Sky Battle Talonflame is in a high level wich is 65 that makes it clear that is the final evolution

          2. That doesn’t imply (yet) that it can’t evolve anymore,
            because if you look at another one of the trailers you see one of the starters fighting at lv 50 if i remember correctly.

            Thats just how you don’t give things away.

          3. There are evolutionary inducing items you know. 65 and still able to evolve is possible. Maybe a fire stone or something?

          1. Talonflame is based on a falcon. Does a falcon really seem like it’d be final? No, a Hawk better fit’s that place.

          2. Well sorry, just trying to make my point on what I feel is better. Sorry If I was annoying.

          3. If you look at Fletchling, it has 1 chevron on it’s tail. Talonflame has 3 chevrons. From that alone, I would assume that it’s the final stage evolution.

        1. It wasn’t. Look at what moving said.

          OK, guys… NL, one of PJs translators, got someone to take a look back at the episode. As far as they saw there was no mention of Talonflame being able to evolve, not being the final form of the line or anything along those lines.

          For now everything we know know about Talonflame is as is. Smash did not reveal anything significant. We will check back again later, but don’t keep your hopes up.

    2. Dude.. are you 100% sure they said that it definitely was not the final evolution?
      Or did they just say “Talonflame is an evolution of Fletchling” or something along those lines..?

      1. I’m pretty sure. others watching the live stream from a different source we’re backing what I heard him say.

        1. Okay man, if you say so!
          I would personally love it if Talonflame is only the second stage in a three stager, just does not look complete at the moment.

          1. I prefer talonflame as the end evo but I may not if I see its artwork.. the thing that bothers me about the anime art for fletching is it looks so low quality compared to talonflame’s.. I loved fletching as soon as I saw it but it simply doesn’t match well with the anime art so far… probably looks better in the X and Y show coming up though, they do match in the games 3D though

          2. We have confirmation that Fletchling is a 3 stage Pokemon way back when it was revealed. If you look at the artwork of the Pokedex, there are two spots after Fletchling. We know Talonflame takes one of them, leaving the other open to an evolution.

            Here, have a look at what I mean.

            EDIT: Also, only just clicked but look at the sprites for the Pokedex, there the same as the ones for when your looking at your party. Is that a hint that they will return?

          3. How can it be Hariyama? -,- First of, it evolves from Makuhita, which would mean it’d move a place over to the right. Second, Fletchling is a 3 stage evolution, also proving it’s not Hariyama.

          4. I don’t really think that sprite looks like a Flabébé… Looks more like a Pidgey. I compared and everything and it definitly looks like a Pidgey to me, which doesn’t make sense to me.

          5. While it does look like Pidgey, don’t you think it’d be a little weird to place another bird line after the first (Especially as the 1st line is a new one) Just thinking.

          6. Definitly! That’s why it doesn’t make sense to me. It’s kind of stupid in my opinion to put one more bird line, but whatever, I don’t mind.

        2. Well, according to someone I know on twitter who recorded this weeks smash, nothing regarding Talonflame being a second stage or final stage was mentioned. Yes, I have nothing to back this up with because today’s smash footage is lacking(and probably won’t get uploaded), But this is smash. When is the last time they revealed anything, with the pokemon official website not updating? Now, does this mean I believe Talonflame isn’t a second stage pokemon? No. I’m saying that smash would never confirm anything like that anymore.

          1. I might get this reply from ElitePokemonTrainerXeos, so I’ll go ahead and say that it won’t happen. From someone else? Who knows. I wouldn’t count on it being uploaded, and I wouldn’t count on it being right. Nothing of that sort has been mentioned in Japan.

      2. They have already confirmed that fletchling evolves into TalonFlame!

    3. Maybe talonflame is the final evolution of fletchling maybe is like this:

      First we have fletchling
      Second a middle evolution of fletchling
      Third we have talonflame (:

  7. When you mean “a brief look at the upcoming anime season”, do you mean the X & Y anime, or other episodes of Best Wishes.

  8. Do we know if horde battles could be wild encounters? I mean black and white made double wild encounters so it wouldn’t be too farfetched. I’m hoping they are more like you battle the evil team and a few grunts gang up on you at once.

    1. … Wait, which is your question? Because as for the former, it’s confirmed that Horde Battles are indeed wild encounters with a bunch of wild pokemon at once. Otherwise, there has been nothing suggesting if it will be used in a trainer sense. Though, admittedly, that COULD be nice from a story angle. There have definitely been times where they have faced you against grunt after grunt as they are taking turns… clearly they COULD be like 4 or 5 enemies who just try to take you out at once.

      1. Ohh okay gotcha thanks I was just asking if horde encounters were in the wild. Would be cool to see hordes when battling multiple grunts at once as well.

        1. No problem. Now you just have me kind of hoping we do see Horde Grunts XD. The idea of taking down 5 trainers at once, almost making me think of something like Pokemon Conquest, is pretty awesome.

  9. My question from an hour ago stil stands ._. Will you stream the anime special at 11th July?

    1. I think I answered your question for this last week as well x’D

      ZephrySonic and VictiniPro will have the stream uploaded to YT in a few hours, check back then 🙂

      1. ZephrySonic has not uploaded a stream snice April and VictiniPro was two weeks ago so i am not really relining on them to watch it

          1. cool cause i would like to see what or taking about with Talonflame not saying i don’t believe you i just want to see it my self you know?

          2. Of course, I understand. it’s hard to take my word for it without proof right?

          3. right and i hope it is does evolve cause it already looks cool and if it evolves i can’t imagine how awesome it will look

          4. Just imagine a Orange and Grey hawk covered in heat patches with a v shaped tail and Gold fletches with a spiky crest on it’s head. Something like that. xD

          5. is that just your assumption on what it looks like or is it confirmed that is what it will look like. cause i would like it to look like a phoenix

          6. That’s my assumption based on Talonflame’s current appearance.

            It’d be a bit weird if a falcon turned into a phoenix, but I can see what you mean.

          7. yea cause every time i think of a fire bird a phoenix is the first thing that comes to mind but i would be cool if it looked like a hawk

    1. To bad that this Faretch’d evo is fake ; / it’s badass as fuk…I WAAANT TOT WHY FAN’S CAN’T GIVE THEM IDEA’S?!

  10. OK, guys… NL, one of PJs translators, got someone to take a look back at the episode. As far as they saw there was no mention of Talonflame being able to evolve, not being the final form of the line or anything along those lines.

    For now everything we know know about Talonflame is as is. Smash did not reveal anything significant. We will check back again later, but don’t keep your hopes up.

    EDIT: Oops, just realised he posted about this below. Well, now you get to see it twice 😉

  11. We have got something going on here:

    First of all the Pokedex image has 3 spots for Fletchling evolution line. It can be 2 stages and another standalone Pokemon there though.

    Secondly the official site states that Talonflame is “an evolved form of Fletchling”. It doesn’t mention it is directly evolved from Fletchling and the wording becomes very important here.

    Thirdly we have Evolving Pokemon section at official site but we do not have Fletchling line here. If Fletchling line is 2 staged then Fletchling and Talonflame should be there since they would be the first evolution line introduced before Vivillon line.

    Lastly, there were arguments about size of the Fletchling and Talonflame and there should be a form between to have proper evolution line.

    Assumption: Fletchling->Mid Evo->Talonflame


    1. not sure if anyone has yet considered Fletchling could possibly have a split evolution.

  12. Why do people keep hoping for new things from Smash? They do repeats for X&Y news, so keep your hopes low.

    1. ^^^This!

      And when Smash *does* get an exclusive reveal, they say so.

      I think Smash is a really cute show and it makes me sad that so many people just fixate on the fact that they aren’t giving new news… 🙁

        1. TOP SECRET
          It’s a secret passed down to the chosen ones for generations.

          As for Smash, I think (and hope) a lot of people watch for the enjoyment rather than the expectation of something new.

          1. (;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)
            Y U TROLL ME?!

            (ヽ `д´)┌┛★)`з゜)
            Gimme yo secret!

          2. Fiiiiiiiiiine. There are a load of different formatting options…

            You need to remove the space inbetween them, and put your text between the opening and closing tag.

            = italics
            = bold
            = underline
            = strikethrough

            = what all of this text is in

            There are more too. Which can all be found here

          3. Never tried block quote before.

            Where’s more?

            Edit: Nevermind. I clicked the “here”!

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            • • •

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  13. What are your XY teams so far im using Lucario Fennekin Noivern and maybe Absol

    1. Not enough revealed yet to make a final decision but I’d say it’s a safe bet that I’m using Talonflame. I’m also liking Clauncher, Helioptile, and Chespin but those could change if I find something I like better. I’m saving one spot for a Fairy type (I’d love to see how they work) and one spot for a classic like Gengar, Nidoking, or Flygon.

  14. This may be off-topic, but the E3 rumors sound quite alike to what Pokebeach’s source initially stated, with the second gym being a fairy-type gym and h also claimed that Pangoro was real, so maybe these two sources either copied information off each other (Hiro, the first source;s information was partially copied by the second source plus some other information Hiro didn’t mention or is just made up) or maybe since those two connections were made between the two sources, maybe both sides of rumors are true and we can expect everything they are saying to be true. However, the only believable information we have thus far is the information from the first source (Hiro), as he predicted the Fairy-type, the 4 English names for Pancham, Helioptile, Gogoat and Fletchling, the Parabolic Charge move, the first gym being Bug, specifically revealing Sky Battles and much more (check on http://www.pokebeach.com for WPM’s article on all of the rumors from the first source put together), but that one part about riding your Pokemon was a little off, but he only played a demo of X/Y (or so he claims) so things may have changed since then. Thoughts?

  15. Smash was lame & boring as always. Also, why is everyone discussing Fletchling & TalonFlame? WHO CARES! Seriously, they’re just the typical bird of this gen but possibly even more weaker since Stealth Rock would eliminate them the moment they come out to battle. They’re going to have weak stats! Actually, every Pokemon revealed other than the legendaries are just basic or poorly stated Pokemon that won’t be good in battle at all.

    1. People can use whatever pokemon they want to, regardless of stats or your negative opinion 😛

    2. What do you expect us to talk about? We’ve only known a number of Pokemon and that is what we are going to talk about. That is what this board is for. WE CARE!

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