X Y Rumours & the Predicament

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Hey Pokéjunglers,
We have some fresh rumours for you, but first I urge you to read the below disclaimer, right after the spoiler.

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This generation we are faced with a predicament regarding rumours. Since Pokémon X and Pokémon Y are announced to be simultaneously released globally, it is not impossible, or even unlikely that rumours would appear that were not originally from a Japanese source.

Why does this matter you ask? Because in previous generations it was usually very easy to separate the fake from the real for things that weren’t originally from 2channel by looking at the original Japanese source that they claimed they translated from. Usually the Japanese would be amateurish and a product of a shoddy attempt at Google translate, hence even a novice translator would be able to confirm it as fake.

This time round however, it will now be a lot easier for people to make convincing fake pictures and info since they are free to do so in their own language, and it not be considered suspicious. In the past, 99% of information from non-Japanese sources proved to be fake (with one particularly famous exception) though we will not have the benefit of knowing that this time. This is both a good thing and a bad thing, since there are at least 6 other languages in which leaks may come to us now, though in turn it will become phenomenally harder for us to decipher what is fake and what is real.

Here are the rumours, courtesy of 4chan, where no significant Pokémon leaks have ever been found. Needless to say,  that they are most likely fake. I will add my commentary so read along with me! 🙂 Thanks to Ryuusei for pointing out these rumours to us!

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“Due to the “world wide” release of Pokémon X/Y, pre-release information that at this time would usually be reserved for the Japanese branch of the Pokémon Company is now present among the localization departments of the other regions as well (such as NOA, where I am situated), and I have actually seen the full roster of new Pokémon as have quite a few people worldwide due to the difficulty regarding keeping everything under wraps. Thus, I can share a bit of preliminary information about new Pokémon appearing in X/Y.
Kriff: It seems they’re pushing the “Pokémon is global now so even though its 4chan it’s not a lie!”. It is very well calculated in trying to get this across, making it more suspicious than if they just wrote the facts out. 

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  • More than 100 new Pokémon.Kriff: A believable number.
  • There are indeed new evolutions and pre-evolutions, most of them focused on Gen V Pokémon. However, a few older Pokémon, including Gen I classics, are getting surprising new developments.Kriff: Mostly Gen five Pokémon having evolutions sounds quite believable.
  • No new types, but there are “Cross-bred” Pokémon introduced. Certain father/mother breeding pairs will result in a visually distinct child, who will be the mother’s species, but will, for example, have a pattern reminiscent of its father or a slightly altered color scheme. This is basically the new Gender Difference and is simply an aesthetic bonus, nothing extreme and only certain pairings result in this…the Pokemon is still considered the species of its mother, it’s not a new species. One example I can give is that it is possible to get certain Pokemon sporting Pikachu’s red cheeks.Kriff: OK. So this was a rumour that 4chan had already given us back when HeartGold and SoulSilver were announced. Spiky Ear Pichu lead the way for many rumours of Pokémon that would gain distinctive features when bread from parents that were not the same Pokémon. This part makes the rumour lose most of it’s believability.
  • The Starters become Grass/Steel, Fire/Psychic, and Water/Electric. They’re inspired by various European-centric archetypes…Chespin becomes a knight with chestnut armor, Fennekin a wizard with a majestic fur cloak, and Froakie a Nordic Viking with a thunder-cloud mullet/beard combo.Kriff: Not entirely out of the question. Still, it’s very detailed information. This person who claims they work at NOA are surely putting their job on the line at this point? I’m just not buying it.
  • Xerneas is Ice/Steel, and Yveltal is Fire/Dark. They have a unique ability where they can shift types with each other, Xerneas becoming red and Fire/Steel, and Yveltal becoming blue and Ice/Dark. Supposedly, Game Freak chose the typings in part due to members of the team being fans of R.R. Martin’s A Song of Ice and Fire, among other reasons.Kriff: OK. OK. Why does someone from NOA have an idea about Gamefreaks tastes and hobbies!? This rumour is just getting fishier and fishier.
  • Normal: Kendama-based Pokémon. Its main body rides atop a giant ball.
    Kriff: Here’s a Kendama.
  • Grass: A black-bear whose body is made of berries.
  • Fire: Pintata Bull with horns that are torches.Kriff: What’s a Pintata? Oh right, Pinata!
  • Water: Sea-bird. Looks like a socialite due to a feather that looks like an ascot.
  • Electric: A poodle whose fluffy-parts are statically-charged fur.
    Kriff: Eww. “Fluffy-parts”.
  • Bug: Millipede, besides the head its long body is made of bubbles
  • Flying: A peacock with a tail that’s a harp.
  • Steel: A female-like Pokémon whose long hair is made of long, steel cables.
  • Rock: A rock-based snail, its got a bell for a shell, and its body looks like a cathedral.
  • Ground: An elephant whose body is covered in hardened mud-armor, more realistic looking than Donphan.
  • Psychic: An “Arabian” Pokemon wrapped in a brightly-colored carpet clothing.
  • Dark: Raccoon. Its tail serves as a burglar sack, and it’s got a stylish black mask.Kriff: A racoon burglar is quite an American concept. But not entirely out of the question.
  • Poison: Little purple lizard, it swings its (very large) broken tail around like a huge club.
  • Fighting: A very weird Pokémon who resembles a giant, living sneaker. Cooler looking than it sounds.
  • Ice: A Snowman with coal on its head looking like the incense marks Shaolin Monks have.Kriff: I’ve seen this guys done his research. You’d thing he was the one who designed it himself!
  • Ghost: A kasa-obake (umbrella ghost) that’s brightly colored and “fancy” looking.Kriff: A “Kasa kozou” as it more often called by Japanese natives,  is a popular concept we saw fakes for in the past. Here’s a pic.
  • Dragon: A Kirin that looks like a dragonic-unicorn.”Kriff: A Kirin here.

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In conclusion, though some parts seem somewhat believable, overall it is just too fishy and too similar to lies we have seen in the past.

What do you guys think about reliability? Any ideas you liked or disliked?

Kriffix, Moving, Dae

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52 thoughts on “X Y Rumours & the Predicament”

  1. Does anyone know that exceptional rumour that came from outside Japan but was actually true because I really want to see it. The more you know the better. It’s from this line:
    “In the past, 99% of information from non-Japanese sources proved to be fake (with one particularly famous exception) though we will not have the benefit of knowing that this time.”

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    • Basically, Melkor, owner of Spanish Pokémon fansite Pokéxperto claimed to somehow have a copy of black/white weeks before Japanese release. He then got a friend (I believe) to draw similar images to the ones in his game, revealing new Pokémon to us. I didn’t believe it for one second, it was all too fishy. I mean, why would some Spanish guy randomly have a Japanese copy of an unreleased game and be feeding info to sites like us?
      Though eventually he turned out to be telling the truth. Against all odds and logic.

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      • Didn’t he also list, like, the entire Pokedex? I seem to recall people not believing him because we didn’t have an early bird and bug on his list… which turned out to be exactly right, too.

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        • I didn’t believe him for one simple reason. There was no reason for a random Spanish Pokémon Fansite owner to have an unreleased Japanese copy of a game from a very secretive small developer in Japan. GameFreak stays small for a reason, to have utter control over their product. Even If I went back in time, I’d probably doubt him again.
          Shows what I know lol

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          • Yeah… I’d still be very curious to know how that “utter control” got cracked, but sadly it’s one of those little things us end-users never get to know about.

          • But If I remember correctly, he started posting artworks with Purrloin, which is later shown by the Japanese program(don’t know its name) hours later and then he got his confirmation from the start.

  2. I think the starters sound legit, Im glad somone else noticed froakies clouds emmiting from his skin. I just hope they still look animalesque in the end.

    The freaking church snail just sounds like the perfect idea for a light type pkmn c’mon?! If that is true and we get this pokemon and its pure rock I will be muy dissapointed…

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  3. Honestly, a lot of these thoughts on these pokes can be dismissed. The entire game is based off of a European environment, hence the Eiffel tower-esk building in the trailer.
    The Legendaries are possibly based off of Nordic Mythology and the watchers over each realm, The Eagle of Asgard, The 4 stags of Midgard, and the Serpent of Niflheim. And each game coincides with it’s game, the Y axis, pretty straight forward, the X axis, simple enough, and the Z axis, depth. With the journey into the 3rd dimension it makes more sense than genetic structure. With the EAgle being YVeltal, the FOUR stags being Xerneas, and his set of 4 antlers on each side of his head, and the final serpentine creature that will be Z, it almost makes too much sense.
    Look up the story of Yggdrasil. It all just meshes together so smoothly.
    As for typings that’s still yet to be known and only to be speculated. I’d like to see a fire/dark legendary, however that encourage levitate, and yea, that’s not happening on a legendary. Xerneas has too many possibilities. However, get the whole gene idea out of your head. Just because there was no 3rd gen V game doesn’t mean there won’t be one when it comes to the VI. Well that’s all I wanted to say, hopefully I changed a few minds, my point either way is, don’t believe any of this shit. Chances are it’s fake.

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  4. Well just saw a pic of a new Pokemon off pokebeach.com. Seems like there is some truth to these rumors. It looks to me to be a white poodle looking Pokemon !!

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