Greetings everyone, it is time again for the Mascot Pokémon Showdown! The winner of the last showdown was Rayquaza with a whooping 54%!
With this latest round we’ve finally arrived in Sinnoh. Introducing us to Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum, Generation IV released in 2006 in Japan and to the rest of the world in 2007. Whatever your opinions of this generation, these games shook up the series and came with a lot of new features, like the physical-special split, gender differences and the Underground.

Pokémon Diamond Version1337px-diamond_en_boxart

On the cover of Pokémon Diamond is Dialga, the Temporal Pokémon. A big, blue, dinosaur-like creature with lots of metal on its body, it perfectly fits its Dragon/Steel typing. Using the diamond in the center of its chest plate, Dialga has complete control over time – it can speed it up, slow it down or stop it altogether. It lives in a completely different dimension, which is why people don’t get to study it.

Dialga is the only known Pokémon that can learn Roar of Time. No Pokémon has the same type combination and it’s the tallest Pokémon introduced in this generation. Its name may derive from ‘diamond‘, ‘dial‘ and ‘dragon‘.

Pokémon Pearl Version

1338px-pearl_en_boxartPalkia, the Spatial Pokémon, was featured on Pokémon Pearl’s cover. A lilac theropod-shaped Pokémon with pearls in its shoulder plates, Palkia is said to deform space and it can even create alternate realities. Like Dialga, it lives in a different dimension.

There is no other known Pokémon other than Palkia that knows Spacial Rend. Its name probably comes from ‘pāru’, meaning pearl in Japanese.

Pokémon Platinum Versionplatinum_en_boxart

Pokémon Platinum featured Giratina, the Renegade Pokémon. With its two forms, the Altered Form and the Origin Form, it is the last member of the creation trio of Sinnoh. Giratina is able to travel through the dimensions created by Dialga and Palkia. It resides in its own world, called the Distortion World.

Giratina‘s signature move is a Ghost-type move called Shadow Force. It has the highest base stat total of all Ghost-type Pokémon and the highest HP stat of all Legendary and Dragon Pokémon. Its name comes from ‘girasol‘ (‘a red opal’), ‘guillotine‘ or ‘girare‘ (Italian for ‘to wander around’) and ‘purachina (プラチナ, Japanese for ‘platinum’).

Which Pokémon is your favourite mascot of Generation IV?

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  • Chaos

    Gotta be my boy Dialga.

    Dragon/Steel
    Complete control over time itself…
    Looks absolutely amazing
    Did I mention Dragon/Steel. If only Kommo-o got that typing.

    If only it had a better ability and signature move. Really got shafted compared to Palkias Spacial Rend

  • SomeGuy

    Giratina forever once of the coolest Legendaries

  • Ithsme

    Giratina, because I don’t know, why not?

  • The gravity Kuppo

    I vote for Giratina, it has the coolest typing and design.

  • lol i love how collectively everyone doesn’t like Palkia.

    Did anybody else have those special Diamond and Pearl DS styluses from pre-ordering the games at Target? The ones that had Dialga and Palkia as toppers? Because those were one of the coolest pre-order bonuses I ever got my hands on, but I lost them somewhere, somehow. 🙁

    • TheReece25

      Lol… I was going to say the same. Palkia.. who?
      And yes I got it… I remember being embarrassed picking it up..
      But enjoyed it when I got home 😅

    • Ithsme

      No but I do have a stylus with a turtwig on the end of it.
      Not really relevant but still.

      • I have ones with Zekrom and Reshiram

        • Ithsme

          I gave my turtwig a “haircut” when I was 8 by chewing off its twig lol.

    • Sasha Nekosune

      Damn. No love for Palkia. :/ I personally prefered it over Dialga. But hands down Giratina is my favorite of the trio. My thoughts are. Fuck time. Control over space means i can MAKE WORMHOLES! Well perhaps not that but i personally see the benefits of Both. Not as keen on Dialga cus… Butt crown and Pope hat head? They just looked like… weird Design Choices to me… To me… Palkia looks like a Sleek Dragon that you could SEE moving through the Water. I’ll admit its shoulder pad things look wonkey as hell but I like the rest of it.

    • The Last Kurusu

      I like Palkia but I love Dialga more

    • Nintendalek42

      I have the dialga one! But I haven’t seen it in a while :/ I’m not sure if I lost it or have simply stored it with my figures, but I’m pretty sure it’s the latter. Hope you find yours!

    • Jackattack72

      I still have mine! I still use it from time to time but it sits in my pencil jar on my desk!

  • TheReece25

    So… Giratina is only special because it can travel to places it didn’t even create? :/

  • Skiddo The Survivor Fan

    Love Palkia. Awesome cry, awesome appearance, and it gets Spacial Rend.

  • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

    Giratina is my favorite legend so of course im voting for it.

  • John McNamara

    Did anyone REALLY think the Ghost Dragon wasn’t going to win, I mean, I went to my mom who knows NOTHING about Pokemon and when I said “Time Dragon, Space Dragon, and Ghost Dragon” she went, “Ooooooo Ghost Dragon!”

    See what I mean, you can’t beat something that sounds cool like “Ghost Dragon”

    • Ithsme

      That’s a unique typing right? We should get another one IMO.

      • Review Reviewer

        Well if there ever happens to be a Dragon-Fairy or a Dragon-Ice I’m sure they’ll also get popularity.

        • Weaseltown

          M-Altaria and Kyurem would like a word.

          • Jackattack72

            Sure he meant to say “good” versions 😉

          • Mega Altaria was great. Last I checked it was OU…

          • Review Reviewer

            Tell them to fall off a cliff!

        • Vlad

          Dragon-fairy
          Dragon-steel
          Dragon-ghost
          Dragon-ice
          Dragon-psychic
          Dragon-bug
          Dragon-rock
          Dragon-grass
          All need to happen ASAP!!!! Even if we already have one, we need moaaaaar!!!

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  • towelgirl21

    I thought that gender differences showed up in gen 2?

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Genders did, not gender differences, like Lipstick mouthed female Wobuffet.

  • Sasha Nekosune

    Hands down the Pokemon of Gravity is my Bae~ Gotta love Giratina. And no. Giratina is not Dark matter.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Technically it represents anti-matter

      • Sasha Nekosune

        Thank you for pointing out my mistake of saying Dark Matter instead of Anti-matter.

        While
        that was what Cynthia said in the Game. it has been Postulated that she
        doesn’t know everything about the Legendary Trio. Also if Giratina DID
        actually Represent Anti-matter. The Distortion would would have exploded
        when the character entered, and Giratina would have destroyed the
        pokemon world when coming into contact with the air around it in the
        Anime. In the Distortion world All the land masses seem to have their
        own Gravity, even the Water. And yes i got this from a youtube video on
        the subject and Frankly… It all makes more sense that Giratina would
        be the pokemon of Gravity as opposed to Anti-matter. If Anti-matter had a
        Quality known for warping Time and Space like Gravity does rather then
        making Matter it comes in contact with Cease to be in a SPECTACULARLY
        Destructive show of force… Then i would consider Giratina the pokemon
        of Anti-matter. But as it stands it seems more likely to me that
        Giratina is the pokemon of Gravity. That is my own personal theory based on evidence provided by said youtube video. Its up to you to think what you want.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Where are all mah homies at
    I just hit up the NYC Nintendo Superstore

  • Spaceface13

    Dialga is the best in my opinion, and shiny Dialga looks really awesome.

    • Spaceface13

      Yet Palkia’s shiny is also pretty cool.

  • MelloMori

    Its probably pretty obvious that my vote goes to Dialga given my love for steel, but honestly what clenches it for me is the fact that it was the only one of the three that ever acted friendly towards Ash in the Anime Movies. Like the other two probably tolerated Ash or ignored him, but Dialga actively knew that Ash was his side, which I always thought was kinda cool.

  • Shemar Corbin

    Who wants Gen 4 remake in 2017, anyone?

    • MelloMori

      I think most of us are just expecting it at this point.

    • Spaceface13

      I think it would be awesome. What I really want are to have the Gen 4 starters to have something like mega evolution, if not a mega evolution, specifically because I think Turtwig is cool yet Torterra is ugly(in my opinion of course).

      • mario9785ify

        Hi have a disturbing feeling that they’ll only get exclusive Z-move

        • Spaceface13

          I wonder if there will even be z-moves in games after Pokemon Sun and Moon. I don’t know. It has a very tropical feel(I don’t think that’s the right way to put it) and that makes me think that it might be an lolan region only thing. Yet if Cynthia is the Alola region she might bring the whole idea over to Sinnoh. Who knows?

          • Shemar Corbin

            We might see Z-moves in Gen 4 remakes, since megas are not a thing anymore, and i don’t know if megas will return in Gen 4 remake

          • MelloMori

            I wouldn’t be so bold to say megas are no longer a thing. The Dev’s have openly said that they benched megas this game to focus on Z-moves, but were more then open to bring them back in the future, as well as hinting that they did have Mega Flygon in the works.

          • SpectralSeraph

            FLYBOI!

          • Vlad

            Lord I just want a fire/psychic mega infernape. All of its physical power gets transferred to its mind and it becomes a mental powerhouse

      • Vlad

        Give the gem 4 starters mega evolutions in the remakes please GF, it’s only fair. Plus they need to breathe more life into Megan’s since they kinda abandoned the whole thing this time around

    • The Last Kurusu

      Yes!!

    • Ariel

      Make that 2018 and you got a deal.

    • temporario23

      Definitely want that, hopefully for the 3DS.

    • Vlad

      I can’t decide if I want it in 2017 or 2018 but I REALLY REALLY FUCKING WANT IT!!!

  • Dörko

    FINALLY GOT MY SHINY MIMEY

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Good Luck 🙂

      • Dörko

        ty. probly goin back to egg hatchin for ponyta

  • Spaceface13

    Sense as of now Giratina has won 54% of the votes and Rayquaza won with 54% of the votes, who do you think is the better legendary? Rayquaza or Giratina.

    • Dörko

      articuno. too bad it’s shiny isn’t better. but playing by the rules I’d say the latter but only cuz I’m partial to ghosts

    • The Last Kurusu

      Dialga should win Giratina is nothing in comparison

  • joker901

    Despite what people think about design, Giratina is probably the best of the trio competitivly…

    • Chaos

      Giratina is really cool in that it is a stop to Extreme Speed Arceus. Also one of the few Pokemon to get Defog in Ubers. However Gen 6 was not kind to it as both Xerneas and Yveltal beat it easily.

      Dialga has the advantage of have an amazing defensive typing (Steel makes it neutral to Ice, Dragon and Fairy), with crazy attack potential. Also gets Rocks.

      Palkia is in my opinion the weakest. It’s main use was to counter Kyogre before Kyogre got the biggest nerf ever called Primal Groudon.

  • The Last Kurusu

    Dialga it’s the best

    • Spaceface13

      I agree

    • FairiesInferno

      agreed 🙂

  • joker901

    Wait, wait…Pokemon with abilities like storm drain or water absorb are immune to Primarina water perish song…This means they could make an interesting combo.

    • Chaos

      Has it been proven they are immune?

      Ghost types are not immune to the Normal Perish Song.

      • joker901

        What’s the point of sound moves being water if there’s no water in them? So it’s like Primarina sounds becomes like bubbles and Pokemon with storm drain and water absorb can absorb them.

        • Chaos

          There is no point. it’s a terrible ability.

          Like Magician on Delphox

          • joker901

            Actually, it’s pretty good. You can make a tema with a water absorber, so you don’t have to swith it.

  • Lusamine woah
    (i actually did this one not that steven universe one from yesterday0
    https://65.media.tumblr.com/57454c83c26a5aba2fbc62f688e65f20/tumblr_oglo26QrJ81rks5v8o1_1280.png

  • InfinityD4

    SUTA PURACHINA!

  • Review Reviewer

    Wow Giratina is leading with a 54% right now, that stinks!

    • temporario23

      Get lost, Giratina is awesome!

      • Review Reviewer

        I hope there’s some Pokemon college so despite it having no popularity whatsoever, Palkia wins! (reference to a recent event which makes no sense either)

  • SpectralSeraph

    Pyuku mourning train?

  • SpectralSeraph

    (technically) Seven Ultra beasts
    One is named Gluttony
    Anyone who believes the seven deadly sin representation theory of the beasts is gonna have fun

    • EarthenWarrior

      Don’t say that in my presence……

      • SpectralSeraph

        Okeey

  • SpectralSeraph

    Can we PLEAAASE make Ice both beat and resist water and also resist flying? IT WOULD MAKE IT SO MUCH MORE USABLE

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Ice is already pretty much fine offensively. Defensively it needs the boost.

  • Deerlia

    This is a tough one… they’re all unique and wonderful to me… This might take some time…

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Dialga is the most Deer-like of the 3.

    • Ya girl/hell demon dragon/girl Giratina

  • MagmaGamingFTW

    I know i’m voting for girly tina over here

  • Dazzling Requiem

    So my mum thought I was going to run away XD

    • .-.

      why..??

      • Dazzling Requiem

        Basically

        1) I’ve been cleaning all weekend so my room looks like I’d taken things with me when they were in black bags

        2) My wardrobe was nearly empty, because I’d been throwing clothes into black bags (side note: so glad I’m getting money this week to go clothes and shoe shopping)

        3) I was at my cousins but forgot to take my phone charger, so when my phone ran out and she rang me to ask where I was I seemed unresponsive

  • Tobin

    I voted for Giratina

  • SpectralSeraph

    Welp… minor spoiler… Gladion is just as edgy as we all hoped/dreaded

  • SpectralSeraph
  • Dazzling Requiem

    So I just realised that if UB-02 had a gender it’d probably be female

  • temporario23

    Giratina > Dialga > Palkia.

  • MewMew

    All 3 are wonderful Pokemon with amazing designs, I ended up voting for Dialga though I was tempted to vote Palkia tbh the main reason is because Pearl was my first game of 4th gen and usually the mascots on the games I start with they’re normally the ones I lean towards more, doesn’t mean I like the others any less this one just speaks out to me more

  • GreyRaj

    I wonder how the Gen 5 Mascots will turn out with Zekrom, Reshiram, and the two Kyurem forms. I personally really like Zekrom and Dragon/Electric is such a cool typing. Out of Gen 4 I went with Giratina simply since I like its design the most and also it’s typing is neato.

  • Tobin

    What is your favorite new feature introduced in sun and moon?, mine is pokeride 🙂

    • Ariel

      I’d have to agree on that one! Not having to use an HM slave means I get to pick more of my favorites. Glad they did away with it!

      • Tobin

        all HM slaves will realize their full potential!

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I’ll know properly when I play it, Pokéride seems great though.

    • Ithsme

      Too many to count. I’ll list just a few, can’t really narrow it down.
      – Trainer models in battle
      – Battle Royale? (They look fun but it’s too early to tell, they may very well be a disaster
      – QR scanner

    • Chaos

      Totem Pokemon.

  • Jackattack72

    Where is the Dialga love???!??!?

  • Leo

    To the people who know everything about the games: how many hours of gameplay do we have? (not counting post-game). And is there a good post-game? (no spoileeers)

  • Dazzling Requiem

    Can anyone do me a really high favour and answer any of these questions?

    1) What do all the Pikachu hats do?
    2) When can we use the QR to find non-Alolan Pokémon?
    3) Do we have a list of QR Pokémon?

    • Ithsme

      1. I don’t know.
      2. Yes.
      3. I believe so, but I don’t know where it is.

      • Dazzling Requiem

        I don’t understand your answer to 2), I was asking when we can use it not if XD

        • Ithsme

          Oh. I thought you asked IF we could lol.
          I don’t know about that sorry.

          • Dazzling Requiem

            It’s alright, thanks for answering anyway!

    • TheNintendoChip

      How exactly does this QR stuff work anyways? Does anyone know?

      • Ithsme

        You scan any QR code, which then shows you a silhouette of a Pokemon and tells you where it is, and then you can go catch it.
        It can be any Pokemon (minus Legendaries probably), even fully evolved Pokemon and starters.

        • TheNintendoChip

          But that would only really be effective in the post-game right? Because if I want, say, Jangmo-o while still on Melemele, I can’t just scan its QR and get one right?

          • Ithsme

            I don’t know lol

        • Dazzling Requiem

          Actually I’m pretty sure its a specific list of certain Pokémon, from different stages in their lines (Johto Starters in their first forms, Marill, Duosion)

          • Ithsme

            Where did you hear that? O_o

          • Dazzling Requiem

            I saw a list on Smogon but I lost it

          • Ithsme

            Hmm, I guess we’ll find out lol.

  • Ithsme

    I just had a thought: what Pokemon game do you think will release in 2017? I don’t think we’ll have another off year, even though it could definitely happen, but at the same time I don’t know what we’d get. As much as I’d love them, it seems a tad early for DP remakes, so my honest guess is a 3rd/3rd and 4th sequels to SM.

    • Chaos

      Emerald remake

      Hype.

      • nah

      • Ithsme

        Emerald remake without battle frontier, of course.

      • Dazzling Requiem

        Why would you remake the worst Gen twice?

        • Ithsme

          You’re right, they’d never remake gen 1 again.

        • Chaos

          Cos the alternative is remaking an even worse gen

          • Dazzling Requiem

            You can’t get worse than worst but nice try

          • Chaos

            If it even worse than the worst then that really say something doesn’t it.

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Yeah, it means the person saying it’s worse than the worst has no concept of the word ‘worst’

    • MelloMori

      Dp remakes without question. Third versions are long dead now and after the failure that was BW 2 they’ll probably never touch direct squeals again.

      • Man, I really want an Eclipse version though

        • MelloMori

          And people wanted Grey and Z, but they didn’t happen, and its not likely to happen again. Really theirs no need for a third version in an area where they can just patch the game on a whim.

          • Ithsme

            It’s highly unlikely that GF will ever patch a game in that sense.

          • MelloMori

            True, but I mean more for fixing things, which is what the third games largely did. Fixing little bugs or re-balancing the game to be a better experience, which they can do if they wished to.

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Third version was mostly for story fix and version exclusives though

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Yeah, no

            You can’t just patch a while new version of the story in with Necrozma involved and you can’t just patch the other inevitable changes

            Still don’t think they’ll happen though

          • MelloMori

            I didn’t mean story, I meant more along the lines of fixing small mechanical issues people had with the game, like the horrific surf speed issues of DP that were fixed with Platinum.

        • SomeGuy

          Everyone says sequels / third versions will never happen again. I say we’re gonna get a third version and it’s a sequel!

      • Ithsme

        Hmm. IMO if the next game is a DP remake then 2017 will be an off year.

        • Dazzling Requiem

          I dunno, there was no gaps between Platinum and HGSS, as well as with XY and ORAS

          And I feel off year/on year/off year is a bit weird

          • Ithsme

            FRLG -> HGSS was 6 years.
            HGSS -> ORAS was 4 years.
            Anything can change but it just seems unlikely this soon.

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Yeah but that’s because Gens have gotten shorter

            They’re not going to just to skip out a financial year after skipping another just to satisfy a pattern when it’s obvious why it would change

          • Ithsme

            That’s true. Pattern has often meant nothing with Pokemon, but I just have a feeling that they’re going to do something crazy.

            After all, they’ve said they don’t like being predictable.

    • Ithsme

      Watch them pull something crazy and suddenly give us Pokemon Z, or another new Kalos game. xD

    • The Last Kurusu

      My hopes in order of how I think or want it

      1. D&P remake
      2. Sun & Moon remake
      3. Pokémon Green and Blue 3rd remake
      4. No main stream game just things like Conquest2 or something
      5.Gen. 8
      6. X&Y remake

      • Ithsme

        BW remakes would come before XY remakes would.

        • The Last Kurusu

          Yes I would rather those remakes than XY

  • Ithsme

    Another thing, was ORAS the latest announcement time in a year for a game that released in the same year?

    • TheNintendoChip

      For a main-series game, off the top of my head I believe so.

      • Ithsme

        Interesting.

  • Dazzling Requiem

    Just noticed

    Gen IV-10 Year Anniversary
    Gen VII-20 Year Anniversary

    If we get remakes, then it really is a double celebration of Pokémon’s history. It’s also cool as Sinnoh was the end of an era (regions in the same country, Pokémon models weren’t animated, some of Pokémon’s biggest changes happened after it) whilst Gen VII is a culmination of ideas

    Also, can’t wait to hear people’s Gen IV Confirmed evidence, there’s already one huge piece called Silvally

    • The Last Kurusu

      What now?

    • Ithsme

      Here’s an interesting one.
      ————–
      XY gifted Torchic (a hoenn Pokemon) to players for the first few months.
      The same generation we got hoenn remakes
      SM is gifting munchlax (a sinnoh Pokemon) to players for the first few months.
      I’m sure you can connect the dots.
      xD

      • The Last Kurusu

        Yes Yes Sinnoh CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Ithsme

          Another thing: blazikenite was event only until hoenn remakes, and snorlium z is event only for now…

    • SomeGuy

      I mean the most blatant piece of evidence is Masuda saying they still wanna make remakes.

    • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

      I’m about 99% sure Sinnoh remakes are happening, I’m just not sure when they’re happening, or even when I want them to happen. If they were announced next year for the 3DS I’d lose my shit…however that would mean they’d be on a piece of hardware that’s already seeming a bit dated, and might run the risk of being forgotten quickly when the new hardware comes up – like poor BW2. However the hungry fangirl part of me doesn’t wanna wait years for them to show up on a new console 🙁

      • Dazzling Requiem

        BW2 aren’t forgotten though? They’re quite popular if you don’t count Star

        • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

          I don’t mean by the fanbase, I meant by Nintendo and Gamefreak. BW2 were released to a Japanese audience during summer, and and the rest of the world got them in October. Then in January, BAM, XY announced, and all attention focused to the upcoming generation of games on the new hardware. They had roughly 6 months in the prime spotlight – that was it. Online support for BW2 also really did not last long before the older servers were taken down. They were a beautiful swan song for the DS, but a swan song nonetheless.

          • Dazzling Requiem

            There was still a year between them though, just like nearly ever other Pokémon game. For example, HGSS and BW

  • The Last Kurusu

    Just realized does anyone remember the live action movie of Detective Pikachu?

    • Ithsme

      It’s still coming I think?

      • The Last Kurusu

        Yeah but I looked into it production (meaning they start making it then) next year meaning knowing work they may put into it… it may come 2018 or even 2019

  • Dazzling Requiem

    Here’s a list of Pokémon not in the Alola Dex that can be obtained via Island Scans

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/afe7221474a515150cb4fdf2ad5bae6e914ea133c0e56f87c2be5a348aa5639c.png

    Note:

    -They’re all three staged
    -It doesn’t look too much but it’s 80+ Pokémon, strongly hinting at remakes

    • Ithsme

      This isn’t correct. I saw somebody get an Emboar with QR scans.

      • Dazzling Requiem

        Emboar is number 5

        • Ithsme

          Oh lol.

        • Dazzling Requiem

          Like it’s literally right there XD

    • SpectralSeraph

      EELEKTROSS

    • Chaos

      What is an island scan?

    • Ithsme

      This somewhat kills my hype for the QR scanner. I was hoping that it would help get the complete national dex. :/

      • Dazzling Requiem

        That’s 381+ Pokémon from SuMo alone though

        And remakes have more Pokémon than first games anyway

    • TheNintendoChip

      Gen 4 starters aren’t there…
      HMM I WONDER WHY?

    • SomeGuy

      Oooooooh. I bet if the remakes don’t come out next year then VGC 2018 is Alola Dex + these 80-ish + Megas

  • SpectralSeraph

    Honestly I feel…
    Electric needs more physical attacks
    Ice needs an entire rework
    Ghost needs to beat something different than what dark beats
    Steel needs more special attacks

    • The Last Kurusu

      -Fairy needs more Pysical moves
      -Rock needs something more to it so its less dull like some speed
      -Ghost needs more advantages

      • MelloMori

        -Fairy should be given a weakness to fire, or at least something else as a weakness.
        -Ground and Rock should become one unified type.
        -Grass should lose its weakness to Flying.

        • Dazzling Requiem

          Please no

          Poison was already outclassed by Fire until Gen VI, it doesn’t need to be outclassed again

      • Retro Gear

        Bug and ice should have resistance to fairy

  • SpectralSeraph

    ….in hindsight… it should have been obvious that Z wasn’t coming but rather gen 7… there were a lot more hints than I realized…

  • Retro Gear

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a29a68528e5f7b2110320f25bf2be478ec88e8ebdd2c6f19813be7c263a5e326.png

    Its all come together !??? really GF , those are the only characters they bring compare to BW2 , I hope SM have sequel.

    • The Last Kurusu

      Who’s next to Corless and How dare you reveal that!!!!!!!!

      • The Last Kurusu

        And inbetween Wally and Cynthia???

        • Ithsme

          That’s who’s inbetween Wally am Cynthia.
          Next to Colress is actually Grimsley.

          • The Last Kurusu

            Oh why only him why not Shauntal? I wonder

          • Ithsme

            Idk lol

      • Ithsme

        Anabel

        • The Last Kurusu

          Oh Ok and in between Wally and Cynthia?

    • dude spoilers, mark them

    • Anabel <3

    • Ithsme

      It’s not optimal, I know, but why can’t we try to be optimistic and look at all of the amazing things the game brought us rather than looking at one of its few flaws?

    • Dazzling Requiem

      The thing is though for all the Gym Leaders and Champions sans Hoenn’s they just reused sprites

      Here they’ve created all these 3D models from scratch, and seem to of polished Wally’s

      • Ithsme

        Not only the challenger screen models, but in battle models as well.

        At this point I’m just happy it wasn’t the maison.

  • The Last Kurusu

    Are the Tapus allowed in regular tournaments? Cause umm Alolan Raichu and Tapu Koko will destroy!!!!!!

    • SomeGuy

      Yea they’ll be allowed in VGC though we don’t technically know all isn’t allowed yet. But my guess is none of the following:
      Solgaleo & Lunaala (confirmed)
      Zygarde (confirmed?)
      Psychic-type black diamond thing
      Magearna (confirmed)
      Marshadow

  • Actual freaking message I got on Tumblr:

    “Are you a Bulbasaur because you’re number one!”

    • The Last Kurusu

      I think they are flirting with you

    • Ithsme

      Are you Victini? Because you’ll never amount to anything!

      • Are you a Pikachu? Because I want to drag you down and keep you from reaching your true potential as a person!

        • Ithsme

          Am I a Raichu? Because I’m more unloved than what’s supposed to be unloved (Mimikyu).

          Eh, that was weak, I just was having trouble thinking of something.

    • The Last Kurusu

      Are you a Gardevoir or Lopunny cause you seem like a total gender trap.

        • The Last Kurusu

          What??

        • The Last Kurusu

          Wait did it offend you? If it did I’m sorry I mean no rudeness

          • It was just kinda weird??

          • The Last Kurusu

            I’m sorry I couldn’t think of a better one So I made one out of whatever I could think of

      • Retro Gear

        Lololol,

  • Shady

    3 questions about Anabel

    Y she’s no longer psychic specialist?

    Y she grow up while Wally is not and both of them from Hoenn?

    Y she is damin cute?

    • The Last Kurusu

      Who’s Annabel again I don’t remember?

      • MelloMori

        Frontier Brain from Emerald. In the anime she pretty blatantly flirted with Ash.

        • The Last Kurusu

          Ok That’s making sense to me

        • Retro Gear

          She wanted the D

        • Shady

          I hate this asshole more now.

          • MelloMori

            Um…Am I the asshole? Sorry man.

          • Shady

            I was Implying Ash.

          • Retro Gear

            Blame the writers of the show, not ash he is innocence

          • MelloMori

            Ah. Could have been worded a bit better, but I see what you mean. Though don’t blame Ash man. A girl likes what she likes, and she saw something she liked in Ash.

          • SomeGuy

            Chill bro. No hatin’ in the PokéJungle

      • Shady
        • The Last Kurusu

          Ohhhhh

    • She is soo cute omg

  • Dazzling Requiem

    Dazzling Requiem now presents

    Sinnoh Confirmed!

    1) Island Scans: Can be used to obtain the Unova and Johto Starters. Hoenn, Kalos and Kanto starters are all available easily on 3DS due to XYORAS. Alola Starters are obviously there. So, all starters sans Johto and Unova are forced on you on 3DS at some point, whereas Johto and Unova are easily accessed due to ORAS and XYORAS.

    The only starters not repeated or mandatory on 3DS? Sinnoh!

    Also, Sinnoh has the least Pokémon in Island Scans not counting cross Gen evos, and even with them has the least Pokémon there out of any games that can realistically be remade this Gen (basically itself and Kanto)

    2) Team Skull: Use blue and pinkish/purple in their backgrounds.

    3) PokéDex: Sinnoh has the least amount of Pokémon in the Alola Dex out of all realistically to be remade Gens, and the least overall all if you only count original Sinnoh lines (no cross Gen evos)

    4) Silvally with its RKS System, pallets changes and type changing signature moves, and its inhibitor helmet is obviously based off of Arceus

    5) Arceus got a buff to Multitype, it now works with Z-Crystals along with plates (but Crystals don’t change the type of Judgement)

    Spoilers on the Null/Silvally Origin Story

    6) Its creators went to Canalave City Library for research

    Spoilers on Ultra Beasts

    7) They’re extradimensional Pokémon, just like the Creation Trio and Arceus. Are these Pokémon also Ultra Beasts of some sort?

    Huge spoilers on plot and certain characters

    8) Lusamine and Cyrus are opposites. Lusamine’s love drives her to her limits, whereas Cyrus’ lack of it leads to his ambition. Lusamine is content on having a world to herself, Cyrus wants to force his world on others. Lusamine gladly goes to another world, Cyrus is forced there.

    Following on from the Eighth point, so huge spoilers

    9) Lusamine and Cyrus have their climactic battles in an other dimension after previously fighting them in their bases.

    10) Munchlax, a Sinnoh Pokémon, is being distributed similar to Torchic last Gen (noted by Ithsme)

    • Ithsme

      Point 2 is super weak. 😛
      But all of the others are awesome, I hope this ends up being the case!

      • Dazzling Requiem

        There was weak points in everyone’s Gen 3 confirmed theories tho :p

        • Ithsme

          ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • Leo

    So many spoilers in the comments PEOPLE REALLY. I think Dazzling Requiem is the only one who thinks about the people who haven’t watched the pokemon international videos

  • I’ve been doodling random stuff all day I need something to draw for real because that Lusamine wasn’t good enough

    • Ithsme

      Hmm.
      Draw Anabel.

      • omg it was so obvious this whole time

  • SomeGuy

    Is it true that Gens 1 – 5 and Gens 6 & 7 take place in different dimensions? Or is that just highly speculated?

    • Ithsme

      Canon

    • No no no. The remakes and the originals are different. Gen 5 and 4 is still canon though. its weird

      • Ithsme

        No, the games with Mega evolution and the games without are different universes.

        • SomeGuy

          The stuff with Anabel in the post game make me feel this is true.

          EDIT IM SO SORRY FOR MESSING THAT UP

        • Wait but like, gens 1-5 still had to happen because Red and Blue, Cynthia referencing Giratina and Dawn/Lucas in Black and White, the grunt from G/S/C settling down in B/W, and Colress being referenced in Gen 6

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Yes they all appeared to have happened, but likely happened with slight divergences and bigger differences such as a lack of Mega Evolution and Infinity Energy

          • MelloMori

            They did happen, but in different universes. Basically the events in both universes are largely the same, but the key difference was in one universe mega evolution was created, and in another it wasn’t. This then meant that events played out largely the same, but small differences did occur. Like Archie having a mega pokemon, or team plasma researching something similar to mega evolution despite having no idea how to access its power.

          • Ithsme

            It’s a bit convoluted.
            Gens 1-5 still happened with the same events, but just with mega evolution.
            Meaning this Red and this Blue aren’t the same as the ones in RBY/HGSS/BW2, just a counterpart where the only difference is mega evolution.

          • God this is so dumb

          • SomeGuy

            Multiverses are all the rage Star

          • Ithsme

            I hate it so much.
            It’s clear that the whole story of generation 6 and the “ultimate weapon” thing wasn’t planned out well.

            Why couldn’t they have just added mega evolution without splitting off the timeline? They didn’t need to at all.

          • Dazzling Requiem

            I mean not really

            Added story potential and explains why Megas weren’t in past games

            Also it’d be dumb if they didn’t do it seeing as we have time and space travelling Pokémon

          • They could’ve just said it was recently discovered or recently made possible to use. Maybe only certain people could get ahold of it hence why Steven would have it years before

          • Dazzling Requiem

            The thing is though they wanted it to be an ancient technique for story purposes

            As well as the fact that there’s still the point that it allows way more creative freedom which is good for content creators

    • Chaos

      I imagine all the remakes are in a different universe

      • Dazzling Requiem

        All remakes from now on Definetley are going to be since they will feature mega evolution

    • Dazzling Requiem

      Two timelines

      Mega Timeline (AZ fires his weapon successfully, which creates Mega Evolution and ends the war, leads to the discovery of Infinity Energy and advances technology faster)

      Original Timeline (AZ doesn’t successfully fire the weapon and doesn’t create Mega Evolution or lead to the discovery of Infinity Energy)

      They both follow the same rough Timeline, it seems

      Kanto/Hoenn > Johto and Kanto/Sinnoh > Unova > Unova/Kalos > Alola

      For example, Red and Blue in these games will of came from the Mega version of Kanto

  • Cosimo

    So do we know yet if Vulpix and Ninetales are exclusive to Sun or Moon, cause I gotta work my teams out depending on what version they are on… I don’t like trades Pokémon on my team…

    • SomeGuy

      Pretty sure they’re in Sun

  • SomeGuy

    They seriously just need to pull a Zelda and create an official timeline. Regardless of the fact that, like Zelda, they were never technically made with a timeline in mind. And regardless of your feelings towards the quality of the Zelda timeline, it’s nice having it.

    • Ithsme

      They made one for XY’s release, but it hasn’t been updated since.

      • SomeGuy

        Link?

        • Ithsme
          • SomeGuy

            See to me this makes it seem like just RBY / RSE then GSC are the only games in the alternate timeline.

          • Ithsme

            The equals sign means they take place at around the same time.

          • SomeGuy

            I’m aware. I’m saying I don’t think it’s as simple as saying Gens 1 – 5 are one universe and Gens 6 & 7 are another. To me it makes more sense that:
            Universe A:
            Red + Blue = RSE
            GSC = DPP
            BW
            B2W2

            Universe B:
            FRLG = ORAS
            HGSS = DP remakes
            BW remake
            B2W2 remake = XY
            SuMo

          • Dazzling Requiem

            FRLG and HGSS don’t have Infinity Energy and Megas

            Ergo ain’t a part of that timeline

          • SomeGuy

            What’s infinity energy?
            And if we’re pointing out shit that makes no since then ORAS has Megas in the same timeline that Kalos doesn’t discover it till 6ish years later. So why can’t Kanto and Sinnoh also just be behind the times?

          • SomeGuy

            Kanto & Johto****

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Kalos didn’t ‘just discover’ it though, they’ve had it for thousands of years, as did Hoenn.

            Infinity Energy is life force energy and its why the Mega Evolution universe can open wormholes to dispose of meteors whilst the Original universe couldn’t

          • SomeGuy

            You haven’t played XY recently then homie. Sure it existed, but half the plot revolves around player character confirming it’s real.

          • Dazzling Requiem

            If you really think that’s what the plot is, pot kettle black.

            It’s not confirming its real at all

            It’s studying and getting more info on it, why would you need to prove its real when Sycamore (literally studies it) literally gives you a Mega Stone and Shalour has a whole a tower dedicated to it? It’s just that most people don’t see it first hand, but multiple characters know it exists but don’t have much knowledge on it

            Hence why you’re studying it

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Nope, because the divergence point is Infinity Energy and Mega Evolution

            Which only two of those game pairs have

            They’re just referring to the rough series of events in each timeline

  • EarthenWarrior

    Finally home from the city
    What are you bungholes up to?

    • SomeGuy

      Discussing the timeline and likelihood of DPP remakes and third versions/sequels.

      • Ithsme

        That too

    • Ithsme

      Mental deterioration

    • drawing Anabel

      • EarthenWarrior

        From?

        • …Pokemon?

          • EarthenWarrior

            Brain fart like maybe a pic or wiki I’m like totally exhausted been out since 10am

          • It’s good fam

          • EarthenWarrior

            Oooooooh Little miss mister psychic face
            I remember she had an illegal Espeon

          • She was introduced in Emerald though

          • EarthenWarrior

            Where Zap Cannon was no longer a TM

  • Dazzling Requiem

    Some cute Sinnoh-Alola ties that are probably just coincidences for different reasons

    1) Cynthia’s name refers to the moon, and Cyrus’ refers to the sun. This is only a coincidence however, as their Japanese names don’t refer them.

    2) Diamond Head and Pearl Harbour are real places in Hawaii. However, they are most likely just coincidences due to them probably not picking a whole region on a small reference. Funnily enough, both are on Oahu, the basis for the starting island, Melemele (which seems to reference DH and PH through Ten Carat Hill and Hau’oli Marina)

  • Green

    Giratina is mah man

    • Retro Gear

      You are spectacular

  • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

    Sorry Dialga. I like your design and typing, but you’re just not as cool as the grumpy Cthulhu beast from the messed up flipside dimension.

  • Dazzling Requiem

    Just realised how similar the Lake and Island Guardians are

    I smell a remake even more now

    • Ithsme

      Lake guardians were meh IMO, they were way too similar to me.
      Island guardians on the other hand look amazing!

      • SomeGuy

        They were all wanna be Mews

      • Dazzling Requiem

        Think about it though

        They all look similar to others of their group (Tapu look more different though)

        Shared typing

        defended their region from (a) Pokémon from another dimension

  • Natsu

    – Generation 1 to 5: follows and creates a plausible and fairly substantiated timeline
    – Generation 6 to 7: introduce Infinity Energy, AZOTH, Ultra Beasts, Mega-Evolution, alchemy, and multi-dimensions, multi-universes, and parallel universes
    – Mega Universe: OR/AS Hoenn, X/Y Kalos, Alola, and remake of Sinnoh (it’s coming)
    – Original Universe: R/B/G up to B2/W2
    – Parallel Universes would explain the remakes and some remakes fall under the non-Mega Evolution universe and some under the Mega Evolution universe

  • EarthenWarrior

    I have to go with Palkia
    I like the design
    It’s cry is very appropriate while Dialga sounds like a T. rex baby getting its tail in the car door
    Also pearl was my first Pokemon game I religiously checked online sites for information
    I checked Serebii everyday since

  • Dazzling Requiem

    People are treating alternate timelines as if XY introduced them (but they introduced the most important timeline(s))

    BW did

    • SomeGuy

      How so?

      • Dazzling Requiem

        Black City/White Forest

        Opelucid City

        One guy literally asks you for a Pokémon with charge from ‘another world’

        • Yeah but that was fine because it was sorta accepted as both versions (Black or White) were different timelines

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Yeah but like why isn’t it acceptable for a new one if it was acceptable back then?

          • Ok so like, you have an apple. And you cut that apple in two right? That’s fine. Then you start cutting those apple slices into tinier apples and now what do you got? A bunch of tiny apple slices all over the floor and your wife left you four years ago and haven’t really fully recovered.

            Point is it just needlessly over complicates things

          • Dazzling Requiem

            It’s not complicated at all lol

            Timeline 1) Mega

            Timeline 2) No Mega

          • But then where do the remakes fall in to that?

          • Dazzling Requiem

            ORAS-Mega Timeline

            Other emakes could easily be separate timelines just as Gold, Silver and Crystal all aredifferent timelines

            In fact, one could argue every single save file is a different time line

          • This literally makes no sense. Can GF just retcon Mega Evolution instead?

          • Dazzling Requiem

            I’m sorry but how the heck is it so hard to get

            Every decision makes a different timeline, some decisions can make bigger changes between timelines (AZ firing the weapon or not)

            And its better than wrecking your canon

        • SomeGuy

          Oh yea dur. OH OH THEORY then. White and White 2 take place in old timeline with less advanced science. And Black and Black 2 take place in Mega timeline.

    • Natsu

      We really need a comprehensive timeline. After everything that’s happened with X/Y, OR/AS, and S/M, the timeline’s been effed up.

  • Dazzling Requiem

    Sorry for the onslaught of posts but I was a Sinnoh child and I’m hyped af for SuMo and potential remakes

    (Spoiler, but only if you don’t know what Ultra Beasts are)
    What if Arceus and the Creation Trio are Ultra Beasts or some variation?

    • Green

      SENO CUNFRM

    • Natsu

      I think so too and makes you wonder how many of the legends are actually not Ultra Beasts.

    • SomeGuy

      Depends on what qualifies as an UB. Also I’m more privy to Arceus just being god.

      • Dazzling Requiem

        Tbh I do feel Arceus is the creator but I feel more that it can just create matter rather than just control all and be omnipotent and omniscient

      • EarthenWarrior

        Just too many possibilities on what makes a legend and what makes an ultra beast

        But one thing is….what if there’s more….

        • Dazzling Requiem

          It’s really simple though

          Legendary-Extremely powerful, but from this dimension or one of its parallel timelines

          Ultra Beast-From another dimension.

    • Retro Gear

      Ikr ,one of the best generation iam eagar for the remakes

    • Ithsme

      Well, if necrozma, thought to be an ultra beast, is a legendary pokemon, then it could work the other way around.

      • Dazzling Requiem

        Actually (spoilers about Necrozma, UBs and Solgaleo/Lunala

        Lunala and Solgaleo are Ultra Beasts and thus Necrozma is likely also an Ultra Beast, just a different kind as it is said to come from another world and is said to be connected to them

  • Natsu

    Pokemon Hierarchy:
    – Arcues = God
    – Angels = Ultra Beasts
    – Guardians = Legendary Pokemon
    – Creations = Pokemon

    Who created humans? 0_0

    • Ithsme

      Bidoof of course.

    • SomeGuy

      99% sure the Lake Guardians created humans.

      Also you forgot the 3 demi-gods. The one the poll is for right now. lol

      • Natsu

        I think they’re Ultra Beasts

    • Retro Gear

      Humans are just a bi product of the universe

      • Natsu

        That could be a good explanation.

    • MelloMori

      Well the popular theory seems to be Nobody. Humans crossed through a portal, maybe one of Hoopas, and simply inhabited the new world they found themselves in, hence why they are capable of taming what is seen as a god with a electronic ball.

      • Ithsme

        Are humans ULTRA BEASTS!?!?! xD

      • SomeGuy

        Or there’s no limit to our potential.

  • Ben

    Okay, so I have to know: WonderTrade in SuMo. Is it in or not?

    • Ithsme

      Yep!

      • Ben

        YES!!

        • Ithsme

          I’m so hyped that they kept the second best feature from XY!

  • EarthenWarrior

    So I kinda missed out on the whole UB-05 Gluttony
    I have to say it’s one of my favorites
    I like the idea of this grotesque maw constantly devouring everything in its path, and apparently nobody knows what happens to the matter it consumes

    • Ithsme

      I’m sad it doesn’t have more of a story to it. It had so much potential, considering that it has a galaxy in it’s mouth, and the whole theme of this game is space.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Yeah I love creatures with a nearly infinite appetite

  • Ithsme

    I need an injection of optimism, stat. Tell me the three things you’re most excited for in SM! ^_^

    • Ultron

      -Pokeride
      -Region
      -Music

    • SomeGuy

      It’s just literally too much. The whole thing is going to be incredible. But:
      Kickass, weirdass story
      Trainers in battles
      Raichu-A
      Palossand
      More post-game than people are willing to give it credit for

      • Ithsme

        The post game is above average for a first game of the generation. It’s nothing spectacular, but it’s definitely more than we’ve been accustomed to for this type of game.

    • -The New Pokemon
      -Anabel
      -Ultra Beasts!

    • Ben

      -The Region
      -The Music
      -Trying out new Pokémon and strategies! Thinking of breeding a Dodrio now that it got a significant boost.

      • Ithsme

        I think I’ve found a way to make Zangoose have a niche lol.

        • Ben

          I am intrigued. Do tell.

          • Ithsme

            Haha that’s for you to find out when the game release. 😉

    • Ithsme

      – The region looks absolutely amazing. I can’t wait to see what it’s like in its full glory.
      – The music (okay, I’ve spoiled all of it for myself, but it just means so much more and sounds so much better when I have memories of the game paired with it)
      – (I was going to say the story, but that sounds too cliche for my already bland list) Battle royales – I can’t wait to play a bunch of battle royales here! 😀

    • EarthenWarrior

      Making and leveling my team
      Writing my new story
      ………….Mudsdale

      Now what I DON’T like
      -we now entered the era of small regions and filler Pokemon
      -No hordes to EV train
      -Hyper Training not allowing us to make 6iv Dittos for breeding
      -extremely one sided Pokemon
      -Breaking Tradition
      -too many fairies and water types
      -poorly designed Pokemon
      -Alolan Forms which was a excuse to make new Pokemon
      -they’re making it hard to find HA
      – they botched the stats of ALOT of pokes
      -lastly, they didn’t give Mudsdale Bulk Up

      • Tobin

        How are they making hard to find HA?

        • EarthenWarrior

          The only way is to use this weird item that makes wild Pokemon call allies

      • Ithsme

        1. The region is definitely not small; it’s large by pokemon standards.
        2. They needed to break tradition to keep things fresh
        3. Yeah there’s too many fairies and water types (but at least water types have an excuse)

        But everyone’s entitled to their own opinion lol.

        • EarthenWarrior

          By region I meant Dex
          But if they could have that many of one type there’s no bloody excuse that others don’t get their fair share

          • Ithsme

            Oh. That’s true, but I can’t blame them for three reasons.
            1. They’re getting close to 1000, which personally I don’t see a problem with, but something many people want to avoid for some odd reason.
            2. I’d prefer they have smaller new pokemon numbers and add an array of new features to have fun with, which is what SM did.
            3. A lot of new pokemon have more than 1 form, making them essentially more than 1 pokemon.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Just laziness
            Marshadow clocks in as 802 it should’ve been 856

          • Ithsme

            I thought that we were in for a large number of new pokemon generation as well, but there’s nothing I can do about it, so I prefer to just look at the bright side of things lol.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Well that only distracts you until life nips you in the testicles and reminds you how shitty things truly are

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Okay but it’s the amount of characters in a Pokémon game

            It’s not that important

      • SomeGuy

        Alolan forms only make up 10 different fully evolved Pokémon. ASSUMING they each took the place of 1 “unique” Pokémon, you really weren’t robbed of much.

      • Dazzling Requiem

        -Tf is a ‘filler Pokémon’, and how is Alola small
        -Hordes were already laggy with six models, try seven. Also, SOS Chains and Festival Plaza are alternatives, one being friendlier to framerate and the other giving you the boosts instantly. Also Poképelago
        -If you could get 6 IV Ditto that easily whats the point of IVs in the first place
        -What does one sided even mean?
        -Fair enough, subjective.
        -You mean a mystical region with a ton of water has a ton of mystical and watery Pokémon? Shocking.
        -Subjective
        -Easily could’ve been an attempt to buff up an already small Dex
        -Something called a ‘Hidden Ability’ is rare? 😮
        -They’re trying to make the Meta less speed based (trying being the key word)
        -Probably because of how annoying it’d be for the thing to be able to boost its Defense when it already does that every time it gets hit

      • Ben

        – They’re definitely following a trend of smaller regions and fewer new Pokémon, which does suck a little.
        – Gonna miss hordes
        – I don’t mind breaking tradition. Keeps things fresh 🙂
        – Yeah, too many fairies and water types. Water I can understand, though, because it’s basically Hawaii.
        – Disagree on the Pokémon designs. Only a small handful of them disappoint me.
        – Stats aren’t everything. Movepools, abilities, typing and items also have to be taken into consideration before writing off a Pokémon as competitively useless.

        • EarthenWarrior

          Stats are everything
          Anyone who doesn’t understand that is a fool

          • Ithsme

            That’s my cue.

            “Weak pokemon. Strong pokemon. Truly skilled trainers simply try to win with their favorites.”
            – Karen, 2010

          • EarthenWarrior

            Oh right a Ledian can take out UB-05 Gluttony
            Oh it’s ok it’s a bug type and it’s a dark type it should win hands down

          • Ithsme

            Is that a challenge!?!? lol

          • EarthenWarrior

            Formats: PU
            Overview

            Ledian is totally outclassed and cannot merit a slot on any serious team, as Meowstic and Ninjask do everything that Ledian can better defensively and offensively, respectively. It has terrible offensive stats, which nullifies its large offensive movepool, and a shallow support movepool, along with poor defenses and a 4x weakness to Stealth Rock, making it absolutely worthless on any team.

          • Dazzling Requiem

            It could in-game

            Just saying

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Or just play in game with what they like because not everyone plays the same as you 🙂

          • Ben

            I use so many lower-tier Pokémon in OU and UU and do quite well with them. Kecleon, Sudowoodo and Electrode are just a few.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Because of their stats
            Sudowoodu because of its defense
            Kecleon has protein which gives more numbers to its attacks
            And Electrode of its off the charts speed

          • Ben

            So you admit that Kecleon is good because of its ability 😉 But on top of that, it also has an insane move pool to support its incredible ability, and a great item (Assault Vest) to support its already-great Special Defense.

            Yes, stats are crucial. But they’re not the sole factor of a Pokémon’s competitive viability.

          • EarthenWarrior

            That’s why every number counts
            Even though my brain forbids math of any kind Pokemon is literally all math
            Every attack does a numerical amount of damage and it constantly weighs every factor down to the last number

            So like in most scenarios it boils down to the golden rule
            Biggest. Dick. Wins.

    • TCRowlet

      Decidueye
      The story
      The post-game

    • VGC 2017
      Battle Royales
      Silvally

  • SomeGuy

    So what battle modes are available at the Battle Tree? Is it just Singles and Multi?

    • Ithsme

      Singles, Doubles, and Multi I believe.
      Question: can you play multi battles with only CPUs or can you play with a friend through local/online multiplayer? O.o

      • SomeGuy

        Local will very likely be available. Battle Maison had it.

        • Ithsme

          Yes!! I’ve never done that, but my brother is getting a lot more into pokemon so I’d love to be able to play in the battle tree with him.

          • SomeGuy

            If the Tree is as tough as the Maison rather than the Tree facility from W2, good luck. I had to use a CPU partner to beat Super Multi. My friend and I simply weren’t good enough together and we were using some solid Pokémon.

          • The AI multi ally trainers in ORAS were trash though, compared to what we could randomly get in XY (my favorite teammate was a beast: Sharpedo+Landorus).

            Archie was pretty decent, but he couldn’t hold a candle to that trainer. Obviously it was harder for me to beat the Multi with Archie… but Archie was still pretty good. 😉

          • SomeGuy

            Steven was good though.

          • I didn’t think so when I used him, so I picked Archie. Ok, ok I mainly used Archie as bait. But at least both his glass cannons wreck stuff, I even get to use Follow Me and it is worth it.

            Steven’s main problem is that Aerodactyl dies way too fast (even compared to the aforementioned non-mega Sharpedo for some reason) and deals lower damage than I would want, plus using Fake Out to stun one opponent doesn’t even save it some of the time… it feels like a 3 on 4 when I use Steven, even if his Metagross is such a beast. 🙂

  • Retro Gear
    • Tobin

      NO!

    • Ben

      “I’m RU, you say?? Well all I gotta say when you tell me I’m RU I say NO WAY! NO NO FRIGGIN WAYYY!”

    • EarthenWarrior

      I’m still waiting for that bottom heavy Olivia
      Or maybe that Purple Chick with the Mudsdale she looks like a Ground type user

  • Natsu

    In the book of Book of Revelation, sightings of angels, disasters, and of legends and monsters rising are all sure-tale signs of the end to come. In the movies, Arceus has stated his wish to restart the world anew without humans and Pokemon who obey humans and their wishes (I know this is NOT canon whatsoever to the games, but is just an additional thought). With Sun/Moon and the 7 Ultra Beasts, they could be a metaphorical reference to the 7 Angels who bring the last of the 7 Plagues. For the past few games, Pokemon has been delving deeper and deeper into interrogating these little nuances and slowly building upon them with each game. I don’t think Sun and Moon are the, “It all comes together” games, but rather the remakes of Diamond and Pearl. With how rich and lore-infested Sinnoh is, it wouldn’t surprise me if the awakening of the Primal deities, the events of Sun and Moon with the 7 Ultra Beasts, and OR/AS Project AZOTH and X/Y’s tap into Infinity Energy began a chain reaction ultimately ending in God’s wrath or Arceus’ wrath being put upon his creations. But hey, that’s just a theory- joking. 😛

    • Ithsme

      We all know it’s you Lockstin. 😛

  • TCRowlet

    https://twitter.com/KazoWAR/status/797343460277755904

    This is exactly what I was worried about. So breeding 2 Kanto Pokemon will yield the Alola form of that Pokemon (assuming it has an Alola form). So there is no way to legitimately breed a Gen 7 normal variant of those Pokemon. Guess we’re going to have to wait for the Sinnoh remakes. RIP Drought Ninetales.

    • Tobin

      Wait for pokebank

      • TCRowlet

        It still won’t be Gen 7 native, and hence won’t be allowed in tournaments.

        • SomeGuy

          DPP remakes

          • TCRowlet

            Pretty much!

          • Ithsme

            SINNOH FORMS

          • SomeGuy

            I want so bad

          • TCRowlet

            I just want Mega Gen 4 starters….as well as all the other starters xD

          • SomeGuy

            Gimme more Megas and gimme Sinnoh forms and gimme for Pokémon exclusive Z-Moves

          • Retro Gear

            Instead of remakes , it would great to have a continuation of DPP

          • Vlad

            Sequels please yes lord

    • Ithsme

      What about ditto?
      Also that makes zero sense, you don’t get evolutionary traits by just moving somewhere.

      • TCRowlet

        Will still yield Alola forms.

      • SomeGuy

        This is inspired by regional animal evolution, not human culture and skin tones so actually this makes more sense. As far as trying to apply logic to Pokémon.

    • TCRowlet

      It does make me curious how exactly GameFreak will handle Alola forms in future games

    • EarthenWarrior

      That is yet another mistake they made
      There is zero reason a non Alolan variant of a Pokemon should yield a Alolan Variant

    • Ithsme

      Also the pokemon I use for breeding is a level 17 fletchinder also lol.

    • What how does that even make sense??

      • MelloMori

        Most likely its a programing oversight.

      • Dazzling Requiem

        Pokemon could possibly have way more volatile genetics?

        But tbh it’s probably a code limitation or just corner cutting

    • VGC 2017 has Drought Magcargo though. 🙁

      At least all the weathers are represented, most especially hail. Which finally has a weather starter with no 4x weakness. :p

      • SomeGuy

        And it’s my favorite Ice type

    • Nintendalek42

      Lol so basically through lazyness GF have just made local adaptation be phenotypic plasticity instead… Makes zero sense as to how foreign populations would have an unexpressed genetic toolset to generate alolan-adapted offspring, but hey it’s not like pokémon was ever that bothered about being biologically sound…

  • Ithsme

    I owe this to everyone here: I respectfully admit that I was wrong about the pokedex being incomplete. I genuinely thought that there was enough evidence to confirm or suggest that the datamine of the demo was incomplete, and I was adamant about that, so I figure I might as well formally admit defeat.

    • TCRowlet

      It’s OK. We both believed in something, and we were met with disappointment. But Sun and Moon will still be enjoyable 🙂

      • Ithsme

        Of course they will. Instead of what we expected, we got a large amount of fun features that were a surprise. xD

    • It’s all right, I wanted there to be more too, but less optimistic to look for it.

  • SomeGuy

    You guys. The entire idea behind Alola Forms is that when those Pokémon were introduced to the Alolan environments they changed to better suit said environment. Itzo facto, you introduce Kanto Ratatta to Alola and breed then, they’ll produce offspring better suited for the environment. Or would you prefer them to create 10 sub forms where the offspring slowly become more Alolan Form like?

    • TCRowlet

      Honestly speaking, and I don’t mean to sound rude! I don’t care about the logic behind it. I’d be perfectly fine with Kanto versions breeding Kanto versions and Alola versions breeding Alola versions. I just want availability xD

      • SomeGuy

        They were never going to let people use non-Alolan forms for VGC 2017 anyway.

        • TCRowlet

          Poopy.

    • Dazzling Requiem

      It’s more that it means that people who want to breed a say normal Raichu can’t that is getting people annoyed

      • SomeGuy

        Except the start of every generation always has head aches like that. Just go back to XYORAS or wait for DPP remakes if you want a non-Alolan.

        • Dazzling Requiem

          It’s still an annoyance though,even if it isn’t that bad

          • SomeGuy

            No more than not being able to get a Chimchar in Alola. :p

          • TCRowlet

            We could still breed those Pokemon though in the games after transferring. Here, there’s just no legit way to obtain them yet.

          • SomeGuy

            But that only matters for being VGC legal and they weren’t going to allow them anyway. Just like trading a Chimchar up and breeding it doesn’t mean you can use it in the VGC this year. So what’s the problem with breeding in ORAS and trading forward until DPP remakes come out? Really just seems like a none issue

          • TCRowlet

            I guess you are right.

    • Nintendalek42

      Except it basically makes it phenotypic plasticity instead of local adaptation, which makes less biological sense. Frankly it does surprise me that they would choose to be this lazy/weird with it, but hey it’s game freak so it’s just another mild frustration to add to the pile.

  • SpectralSeraph

    I have just experienced hell…

    • Ithsme

      What was it like?

      • SpectralSeraph

        Bad… the totem wishywashi spams growl, has a defense buff, and calls on help from allied Alomomolas with both helping hand and heal pulse, while it’s raining…

        • Thunder available at that point?

          • SpectralSeraph

            I wish…. the only electric types I’ve seen are Oricorio, Charjabug
            And for grass: Dartrix, bounsweet and Morelull…

          • I would think Dartrix would do the job but then it’s a physical attacker…

          • SpectralSeraph

            Yeah… razor leaf does around 20 percent until the “fun” begins..

            Also it kills everything on my team in 1-2 hits not named Dartrix

          • MelloMori

            Yeah. Remember School Form has like 120-130 base stats in every stat except for hp and speed. The thing’s a monster for a reason.

          • SpectralSeraph

            Plus those stupid HEAL pulses…

    • EarthenWarrior

      Yeah I’m not looking for my Wishiwashi trial
      Water is never good

      • SpectralSeraph

        Not good? I legit got PP stalled when I used Dartrix…. the alos spam helping hand heal pulse

        And particularly to you, the totem spams growl to lower attack and already has a defense buff…

        • “Never good” means, like Stitch, he hates water. 🙂

          • SpectralSeraph

            XD oh god

          • EarthenWarrior

            Despite the real me enjoys water
            I’m an extremely strong swimmer (I’m build like a walrus)
            Enjoys rain, the heavier the better
            I would build a dream home near a body of water

            But in the world of Pokemon I spit and curse its name
            For that it’s very existence is a THREAT, threat to me, my Pokemon and my chances of winning

          • SpectralSeraph

            Well….

            …I must ask, since you like ground types… what are your opinions on Flygon’s BUFF?

          • EarthenWarrior

            It is a faint glimmer of hope
            Dragon Dance is a start but it won’t be perfect

            This is my perfect Flygon
            It would gain the HA Sand Stream
            And it’s Mega Evolution would have Sand Rush for an ability that would be the perfect combination
            It would get an total increase to Sp attack and Defenses and since Sand Rush covers speed it allows it to bolster its lackluster stats

            And I say Special attack because it can do so much more with special attacks
            -Earth Power
            -Draco Meteor
            -Giga Drain
            -Flamethrower
            -Boomburst
            -Bug Buzz

          • SpectralSeraph

            Flygon is a fave of mine :3
            I’m hoping it becomes really good with a mega… that would work

    • That is good in a weird way. A challenge or two would be interesting!

      • SpectralSeraph

        It is XD
        …I just don’t know how the hell im going to beat it

        • Dazzling Requiem

          Sacrifice to Satan

          I’m right here BTW

          In all seriousness I was going to suggest status until I remembered Alo has Healer

          • SpectralSeraph

            WAIT IT DOES??!! WELP THERE GOES MY ALOLAN GRIMER STRATEGY

          • Dazzling Requiem

            It’s a 30% so maybe you’ll get lucky?

          • SpectralSeraph

            …luck and me don’t go together

          • EarthenWarrior

            I got him on speed dial

        • Does Dartrix have Mega Drain? Otherwise you’ll have to go out of your way to get it on say, Cottonee (lv 13) or Morelull?

          • SpectralSeraph

            Nope, you get leafage and razor leaf
            Magemite is on the other island, as is pichu.
            Morelul is my only option besides my normal team
            Oricorio doesn’t get an electric type move till level 40…

          • What level are you now (so I can look in the Alolan Pokemon lists to check for help)…

            Thanks for your sacrifice, scout, your vigilance may save lives and hairs in the future.

          • SpectralSeraph

            24 is my highest , being Dartrix

          • So here’s your possible options (I’ma look for some)

            1. Taunt
            2. Mega/Giga Drain
            3. Heal Block
            4. Thunder

            So I’m gonna look for things that learn those by level 24 (probably not Thunder and you are not likely to have TM for that).

          • SpectralSeraph

            That’s what I would expect
            I see Magnemite (too far) morelull, or getting Crits to be my only option

          • Alolan Meowth/Persian available? Taunt at level 25. A possible thing that can happen is turn 1 taunt wishi, turn 2 taunt the first alolmomola that appears, then Meowth dies and you get free switch to your grass type of choice and you have 3-4 turns to win.

          • SpectralSeraph

            I have one, but the thing is this… it spawns more after they die
            Plus it has a sitrus berry so it’s stupidly bulky…

          • Well you never know it just might work. You don’t attack the Alomomola, just hit the boss straight with all your grass attacks and hopefully it will go down before the first Alo’s taunt wears off (4 turns after Meowth faints). Also having taunted the boss means no Growl, too.

          • SpectralSeraph

            Only problem is that I ONLY have Razor leaf which hits both and kills the Alo quicker

          • Put in Morelull first. It is slow, but its bulk is reasonable plus it should be restoring with Mega Drain. Even if it only gets one attack it will probably have a dent on Wishiwashi then Dartrix can mop up. Also Leafage still available?

          • SpectralSeraph

            True
            Nope..
            I honestly think I might just Z-move spam or stall it out …
            Or maybe I’ll make mudbray bulldoze it so it isn’t speedy at all..

          • Wishi’s speed is 30 though.

            Anyway, with the Z-Move I think this is how the fight with Meowth strategy might go:

            Turn 1: Taunt Wishiwashi
            Turn 2: Taunt Alomomola (Wishiwashi attacks Meowth, who faints)
            Turn 3: Morelull tanks 2 attacks; attacks Wishiwashi with Mega Drain
            Turn 4: Morelull faints before the attack
            Turn 5: Dartrix Razor Leaf until Dartrix faints
            Turn ?: Crabrawler Z-Move after free switch in

            You might need to reload until Wishi doesn’t get healed by an Alomomola summon. But this seems like your only hope.

          • SpectralSeraph

            Hmmm… I’ll see
            (The SLOW was for alo by the way)

          • IMO you don’t need to kill Alomomola’s speed anymore with this strat, but if you want you can bulldoze before Morelull comes in.

          • SpectralSeraph

            True…
            Actually… I just got a dumb idea that might just work

          • SpectralSeraph

            WAIT IM STUPID I CAN USE Z MOVES XD

          • Well I didn’t think about that either…

          • SpectralSeraph

            But do I use it on crabrawler or Dartrix being that I only have normal and fighting

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Dartrix, isn’t Crabrawler quite frail?

          • SpectralSeraph

            Yeah 🙁
            I only thought so cause stab

          • Dazzling Requiem

            I’d try both tbh

          • SpectralSeraph

            I’ll test to see

  • TCRowlet

    Do we know yet if we’re able to obtain the HA Starters in-game?

    • Dazzling Requiem

      I don’t think so, but if it’s any help I’m pretty sure HA Johto and Unova starters are available pre-bank! 😀

      • TCRowlet

        D: Now I must wait even longer to start breeding my Shiny Rowlet! Also I bred a Shiny HA Cyndaquil and Shiny HA Snivy XD Snivy also hatched with HP Fire, one of my more treasured shinies 🙂

  • Natsu

    2015 in America: Sheesh! Why are people protesting? If you don’t like the leader, why did you let him/her become the leader?
    2016 in America: BREAKING 10,000 people march in NYC in protest against Donald Trump

    Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

    • Dazzling Requiem

      American politics at are a mess

      • Natsu

        I don’t know what our standards are anymore. Millions upon millions of Koreans are protesting against their President for sharing confidential information with close friends and might resign her post… and we fail to have TWO respectable, noteworthy, reputable, and sensible candidates. It was either: choose a liar or choose a degrader. Lesser of two evils to be frank.

    • That first argument doesn’t even make sense though. The people protesting obviously weren’t the ones who voted for Trump

      • Natsu

        It’s called American politics. If it doesn’t make sense, don’t fix it or try to think about it. Since it’s been in our system since the 1700s, it obviously must be right and should be withheld upon till the last days of our country. -_-

      • Dazzling Requiem

        No, it means that they were telling people to suck it up and accept the people’s choice but the exact same people are now protesting

    • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

      so you stand on “nothing we can do, give him a chance”?

      • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

        just wondering not trying to spark anything

      • Natsu

        Somewhat: I believe that we should give Trump a chance, but tackle issues such as the Electoral Votes, his policies, LGBT+ rights, abortions, planned parenthood, gun laws, borders, trade, taxes, corporate control, etc. Democracy means having a voice and HAVING your voice heard. Democracy means the right to peacefully protest against laws you deem unfit and inhumane. I believe that we should give Trump a chance, but if he proves himself to be possess no credentials to lead the country then we should act, not before he has not taken office. I do give credence to my fellow countrymen and women in that the whole Election as a whole has been underwhelming, disappointing, and saddening, but we mustn’t abort ship and assume, we must let things carry on, hold our heads high, and act when NECESSARY.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Oh by the way I found out another disappointment
    I finally saw the Animation for Earthquake and it is the worst

    • Dazzling Requiem

      At least the Ground Z Move looks good

      Twinkle Tackle is a bigger state than Texas

      • EarthenWarrior

        Twinkle Tackle….BAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH

    • Tobin

      can you post a vid of it?

      • EarthenWarrior

        I risk spoiling a total match but if you truly want it

        https://youtu.be/wQfItQD43UQ

        • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

          i cant view it

          • EarthenWarrior

            Why not

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            idk i refreshed it wont come

          • EarthenWarrior
          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            just delete it in like a few minutes

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            ok i saw it

          • EarthenWarrior

            Just an appalling animation

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            its not as good as gen 6’s

          • MelloMori

            I…Actually kind of like it. Its more reserved. It looks more like a proper earthquake.

        • Tobin

          I cant view it, can you send a link?

  • OG Bulba

    I haven’t been on in a while but I’ve been talking to my friends and they’ve haven’t a seen any of the leaks of the game just the corocoro ones and they’ve asked me if anyone thories that the ultra beast are based on the seven deadly sins and idk how they got that cause they don’t know how many there are and I haven’t told them but that’s a pretty cool that speculated that

    • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

      i was thinking they do,

      • OG Bulba

        That someone did theories it

        • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

          i mean i thought they were but i wanna see more in-game before i go on telling people

    • Nightvalzin

      I’ve heard the name of one of the Ultra Beasts put in the latest CoroCore referred to as Gluttony. I don’t know how long they’ve been thinking that but they could’ve put it together when they saw the name. Not to mention that pretty much everyone has theorised that Type:Null was an attempt to recreate Arceus, the Pokemon God, so having the Deadly Sins to fight against that would certainly go together.

      • OG Bulba

        No they had stated that before the corocoro and that when they saw Gluttony is what sealed the deal

  • EarthenWarrior

    Also this confirms that Golisopod’s signature attack
    First Impression has increased Priority

    • SpectralSeraph

      But it’s like fake out and only works turn one…

      • It still deals a ton of damage, perfect for revenge KO’s…

        • SpectralSeraph

          True… but there is no reason to run it over… lunge

  • Dazzling Requiem

    So it’s half past one in the morning on a school day and I just got out of bed to use an amiibo to stop a giant bee from killing a pink void of eternal hunger

    • Dazzling Requiem

      And i died anyway

      Fml.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Alright iPad is dying so I’ll be back in a hour

  • SpectralSeraph

    Can somebody confirm if Sina is an ice type user? The first time I fought her she had Delibird and GLACEON, and I’m curious if it stays that way

    • Dazzling Requiem

      Well, Dexio stays a Psychic user so Sina probably stays an Ice user

      Also, what Z-Crystals do you have? 😮

      • SpectralSeraph

        Normal and Fighting is all I have XD

        • Dazzling Requiem

          Thank you! I was wondering where you get the auxiliary Z-Crystals

          • SpectralSeraph

            I know some

      • SpectralSeraph

        HES THAT TYPE?! WHY?!

        • Dazzling Requiem

          I dunno, feels quite random but I do like how they’re putting in more type specialists

          • SpectralSeraph

            So that means there is
            Normal
            Electric
            Steel
            Fire
            Water
            Grass
            Ground
            Fighting
            Fairy
            Dark
            Ghost
            Poison
            Bug
            Flying
            Rock
            Psychic
            Ice….

            …….there’s no dragon user….

          • Dazzling Requiem

            There’s a post game character with Dragons! 😀

          • SpectralSeraph

            Oh yeah! Isn’t it that guy with the turtonator?

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Yup!

          • SpectralSeraph

            Oh yeah!
            I just wish they had six mons, not five

    • Ithsme

      nnnnnn so jealous

      • SpectralSeraph

        Honestly I’m gonna stop playing once I reach island 3

  • SpectralSeraph

    Yknow, I gave morelul a lotta flak, but I’m growing to like it…

    • Dazzling Requiem

      But its evo is literally Satan

    • Tobin

      is it growing on you?…cause it’s a mushroom…no, okay bye

      • Dazzling Requiem

        You seem like a fungi

        • SpectralSeraph

          I can appreciate that joke

        • MelloMori

          I don’t know. It always came off more as a toad to me.

          • ThatGuyWithThePokemon

            Guys, I don’t know if there’s mushroom for anymore puns

          • SpectralSeraph

            There’s always room for more, lol

          • SpectralSeraph

            It is XD

      • SpectralSeraph

        XD

    • Just character spoilers, no major story stuff

      • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

        I still love your style.

        • :3 thank you! I’m trying to shape it up a bit but ye

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            can you draw me like one of those french girls yet

          • Like, for real?

    • Ithsme

      The eyes stare deep within my soul.

      • I’ve been drawing stuff all day and I keep getting super frustrated with creepy bug eyes 😛

        • Ithsme

          Keep praticing and you’ll get better!

          I have absolutely no authority to say this based on my skill, but it’s pretty much the canned answer to any skill at this point. 😛

    • Tobin

      You are a great artist!

  • Dazzling Requiem

    Game spoilers! Don’t click if you don’t want to see!

    There’s a type specialist for every type!

    Trial Captains

    Normal-Ilima
    Water-Lana
    Fire-Kiawe
    Grass-Mallow
    Electric-Sophocles
    Ghost-Acerola
    Fairy-Mina

    Kahunas

    Fighting-Hala
    Rock-Olivia
    Dark-Nanu
    Ground-Hapu

    Other

    Flying-Kahili
    Ice-Sina
    Psychic-Faba and Dexio
    Dragon-Ryuki
    Bug-Guzma
    Poison-Plumeria
    Steel-Sophocles’ Assistant

    • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

      is mayonnaise a trail captain

      • Dazzling Requiem

        Pls stop

        • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

          all u had to say was
          “no patrick mayonnaise isn’t a trail captain”

          • Dazzling Requiem

            Please let the meme die

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            Joe Biden?

        • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

          u broke my heart

    • Ithsme

      The real question: can we battle all of them?

      • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

        ik the answer *zips mouth shut*

        • Ithsme

          TELL ME

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            yes you can

          • Ithsme

            Great! (I had to put this in a spoiler because my reaction would’ve implyed the answer lol)

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            yea i think after each trail is complete you can battle the captains i think, idk im guessing

          • Ithsme

            Interesting.

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            yea i’ve seen every mugshot for trainers, they are there all of them

  • Tobin

    Debating on what i should eat, toast with jam or sneak a popscicle

    • Toast. Popsicles really aren’t that great

      • Tobin

        okay toast it is

        • I’m glad

          • Tobin

            never mind i do not have bread, popsicles it is

          • …Jelly Popsicles?

          • Tobin

            No, strawberry lemonade, i wonder what jelly pops would taste like

    • Ithsme

      *insert why not both meme here*

  • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

    am I the only one who is a bit sad chain fishing is gone but happy we got a new cool shiny method that works with every mon

    • Ithsme

      I never used that method anyway, it was super limited on what you could get.
      Plus I’m a huge stickler for nature and IVs.

      • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

        the new method called call for help does ivs,evs,HA and shiny chances

        • Ithsme

          Nature is the only issue at this point, because of hyper training.

    • What is the new shiny method o.o

      • Tobin

        Ally battles, a wild poke calls for another poke

        • ??

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            Adrenaline chaining. Encounter the Pokémon you want, use an Adrenaline orb to let it call for help, kill the original once it does, repeat. its like how totems call for help but you can force wild pokemon to do it too

          • is the orb consumable? Or is it like the PokeFlute in gen 1 where you can just use it whenever?

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            consumable, we will learn more when the right people have the games, it just makes me jelly that i see people with shinies and the games aren’t out

          • how early do you gain access to it? how do you get it? Or do we just not know yet?

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            fairly early as people arent off the first island yet

          • so….. shiny ribombee hunting is viable?

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            yep and you dont even need to the National dex for the shiny charm anymore only the Alola dex

          • Tobin

            OMG SERIOUSLY, AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            yes im more serious then red seeing a snow mountain

          • Tobin

            lol

          • OMG YES SHINY RIBOMBABY AND MIMKYU!!!!

            any incentives for completing the nation dex though?

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            there is no national dex, its part of bank now

          • Dazzling Requiem

            You actually completed the objective of the game? :p

    • TheNintendoChip

      I’m not sad, it was pretty broken.

  • Dazzling Requiem
  • TCRowlet

    Not sure if it’s been stated already, but for those of you that were intending to Hyper Train a Ditto to make it 6 IV. Don’t do it, it will not help in breeding. Hyper Training only sets flags on the Pokemons stats to make them act like they are 31 IV, but it doesn’t actually modify the stat to BE 31 IV. So say you caught a 2 IV Ditto, and Hyper Trained it to be 6 IV…if you use that Ditto to breed, it will still act like a 2 IV Ditto.

    • Ithsme

      I knew this, but it sucks.
      I’m going to have to breed the hard way for a while until bank releases lol.

      • TCRowlet

        Hopefully by the time Bank updates, we will get the HA Starters as a reward. Then I can transfer my 6 IV Japanese Ditto and start shiny breeding HA Rowlet! 😀

        • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

          inb4 HA gen 4 starters

      • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

        or someone somehow gives away 6iv shiny japan dittos with 10 boxses of them.

      • Exeledus

        not really, this is actually a very good thing. it means you can use different hidden power types other than dark with perfect stats.

  • Dazzling Requiem

    Night y’all, hope you enjoyed the customisation dumps below

    Sucks for clothes though, still haven’t found a good list for those

    • Dazzling Requiem

      Also, question

      Where do we get the lens case?

      • We got it in the PR studio in X and Y so idk

      • Armaggedon16

        Lillie gives it to us in the beginning part of the game

    • Tobin

      Good night 🙂

  • HAYAO MIYAZAKI IS OUT OF RETIRMENT AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    http://screenrant.com/studio-ghibli-hayao-miyazaki-out-of-retirement/

    • SomeGuy

      YAAAAAAAAS

    • Ithsme

      ??

      • omg omg
        ok like, he is the guy behind Studio Ghibli, a studio that has created some of the best anime movies of all time. Like all of their movies are super amazing and memorable. They made movies like Spirited Away, My Neighbor Totoro and Kiki’s Delivery Service (my favorite :3 ) and he is just amazing and great and he retired for a bit but not anymore!!!!!!!!!

        • Ithsme

          Eh, not a fan lol.

          • Have you seen any of the films?

          • Ithsme

            No, so I guess I don’t have any real opinion, but I’ve heard about them, so my opinion is based on other’s opinions I guess.

          • I would highly recommend you check them out. At least Spirited Away. I’m not even really an anime fan but its really a master peice. Idk, iz cool tho

          • Exeledus

            if your opinion is based on others opinions, then you’d be treating him like a god, ive never seen a single person criticize any of his work (even if he does deserve it sometimes ponyo…)

    • I think the appropriate response to that is: “Again?”

      • Retirement is supposed to be forever. If they weren’t serious, they should’ve just called it a vacation or hiatus…

    • Exeledus

      as long as he’s happy. he’s been at this for awhile, but he’s a master of his craft. “When Marnie Was There” is a movie by the studio without his input, and its my favorite by them, so if he does finally retire, its not like they cant handle themselves.

  • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

    anyone think minior will be the hardest shiny to realizes it shiny lol

    • Tobin

      definitely

      • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

        im totally not gonna ally chain it

      • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

        IMAGINE IF SOMEONE TO MM FOR IT

  • I’m so excited to take a break and hunt for Ribombee before the first freaking trail

    • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

      you gotta beat the first trail since after thats what triggers the ally events in wild

    • Ithsme

      Shiny hunting on the first run is a horrible idea IMO.
      I wouldn’t want to be waiting even a week to continue with the game.

      Shiny ribombee is amazing though!

      • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

        ally chaining is like chain fishing its quick

        • Ithsme

          I’m hoping there’s an ability like suction cups to guarantee an enounter then.

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            theres a item, it forces the summoner to summon a ally you must keep killing the ally

          • Ithsme

            How do you obtain it??

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            shops

          • Ithsme

            Hmm. Thanks.

          • price? how many you will need?

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            i have no idea

          • How do we know so much but details like this are just seemingly unknowable?

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            4chan

        • How long would you estimate? A couple hours?

          • Ithsme

            I know you didn’t ask me, but my estimate is honestly around 4-6 hours if it’s like chain fishing.

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            chain fishing for me is like a hour

          • Ithsme

            I could never accurately pull the rod back, so I never got anything from it.

          • I’ve actually never done it

          • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

            yes

  • AverageGamers

    Never too fond with Giratina’s design. But if I had to choose among these 3, a gigantic creature from distortion world easily comes on top!

    If only Darkrai is on the list 😁

  • SpectralSeraph
    • Ithsme

      is this supposed to be a gif?

      • Ithsme

        Oh nevermind it’s a joke lol

      • SpectralSeraph

        Nope XD
        Look how little it did…

        • Ithsme

          Yeah I just realized lol.
          I thought Z moves were OP but I’m glad to see they arent.

          • That’s becasue it’s Wishiwashi School Forme that is OP…

          • SpectralSeraph

            Pretty much…

          • SpectralSeraph

            Yep

    • EarthenWarrior

      Well…you’re f*cked

      • SpectralSeraph

        XD

    • How long have you been fighting Wishiwashi? I’m pretty glad that these totems are tough battles

      • SpectralSeraph

        This is attempt five

        • Ithsme

          oooooooh, this makes me so hyped! I’ve missed losing in new pokemon games without self-implemented difficulty!

          • SpectralSeraph

            XD well, a lot is due to stall
            If you play a nuzlocke or don’t have a good grass type… well… have fun

          • Ithsme

            I’m nuzlocking moon, my second playthrough.
            I’m getting the tissues ready.

          • SpectralSeraph

            Be glad your first totem is stupidly easy

          • Ithsme

            It should be good to build up the defenses a little lol

          • SpectralSeraph

            XD
            Alola raticate is actual trash

    • Ithsme

      What level is dartrix? O.o

      • SpectralSeraph

        24

        • Ithsme

          Even better! >:D

          • SpectralSeraph

            XD yep

    • This will make the children cry, for sure!

      • SpectralSeraph

        Yep! Fun fact, before the fight, the lapras you are riding is trembling… you can see why

        • I wonder if they actually playtested this fight with actual children…

          (I doubt it though, since children don’t care about NDA’s…)

      • Vlad

        Really?? Was it that difficult??

    • Gamer Dragon07

      XD Wow,Wishywashy School form is bulky or got a boost in its defenses since it’s a totom pokemon

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      damn, people playing nuzlocke will never pass the water trial

  • EarthenWarrior

    Yo I heard talk about customization
    Did that include clothing and if so I demands to see it

    • Ithsme

      No clothing dump sadly.

      • EarthenWarrior

        BALLOCKS

      • Tobin

        WHY ON EARTH ARE THERE SOOO MANY PLOT SPOILERS AND NO CLOTHING SPOILERS!?!?!

    • SpectralSeraph

      I can tell you there’s a wishiwashi shirt… hehe… hehe… I’m wearing it rn… hehe… (crying)

      • Ithsme

        Might as well ask you two things.
        1. Are the clothing stores as small/limited as XY?
        2. Are there clothing stores in every city?

        • SpectralSeraph

          Every city? I dunno…
          Limited? Still a little but not as bad

          • Ithsme

            Good to know. Thanks!

          • SpectralSeraph

            Yw :3
            You can buy shorts!

          • Ithsme

            :O

          • SpectralSeraph

            😀

  • Ithsme

    I’ve heard totem battles are quite difficult. Can anyone with the game tell me their opinion on them?

    • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

      they are extremely bulky

      • Ithsme

        Woo

  • Tobin

    I have to leave now bye 🙂 <3

    • Ithsme

      See ya!

  • Ithsme

    Gotta go do the homework I’ve been dreading all day. Bye!

    • Good luck with that!

  • Gamer Dragon07

    As much as I like Dialga since I chose Diamond,I’m going for Giratina.Platinum is the first third main game I ever picked up plus it fixed up a lot of issues that Diamond and Pearl had.Also,Giratina has a cool design and typing.

  • SpectralSeraph

    I FINALLY DID IT!!! I BEAT IT!!! FINALLY

    • Exeledus

      hoping that thing doesnt end my 20 year streak of never losing an battle during the story mode of pokemon. I’m sure I will be fine.

  • Exeledus

    still waiting on that physical hidden power gamefreak lol.

  • joker901

    ALL -ate abilities have been nerfed. Now the power of moves increase is just x1.2

    • Exeledus

      10% isn’t too much, I’m sure they will still be good.

      • joker901

        Well neither that small. Consider that hyper voice goes from 117 to 108 (less then a hydropump)

        • Exeledus

          I’m not understanding what you are trying to say (not trying to be rude, I’m guessing English isn’t your 1st language, please forgive me if I’m coming off as disrespectful)
          in gen 6, I know -ate abilities boosted the power 30% (x1.3), so yes, hyper voice would be boosted to, with an only 20% increase, 108, as you said. however, moves often used with these -ate abilities are often far more accurate. (therefore reliable, and this is all before factoring in STAB. hydro pump is only a 2 power difference at 110 with unreliable accuracy)

          • joker901

            What I’m saying is that a stab 117 bp is better then a stab 108 bp, which is actually a nerfed stab Hydro pump. Still strong but the change is not that small.

  • SpectralSeraph
    • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

      chain fishing….

      • SpectralSeraph

        Oh yeah

        • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

          can u explain to me if u are using citra how did u get past the first cutscene and how did u fix the speed

          • SpectralSeraph

            Yes, I am using citra
            For the first cutscene… I honestly don’t know.. I guess by laptop was just lucky?
            And for the speed, sometimes it’s okay, and others it’s godawful

    • TwoWorlds EastGovnah

      and are u using citra?

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    i voted for dialga but all of them are legends

  • Sylveon or Florges?

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      competitve? sylveon design? florges

  • Dörko

    shiny roselia woop. was trying for hoppip or psyduck tho lol

  • Pokemania88

    New article peoples

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    • The Last Kurusu

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  • Vlad

    This entire generation of Pokemon was PHENOMENAL. Gen 3 was hard to top but they blew it out of the water with these games. My only huge complaint is… Why the fuck is palkia a water/dragon -__- wouldn’t dragon/psychic make so much more sense ?

    Aahhh game freak

  • towelgirl21

    I voted for Dialga. Gen IV is the only gen I haven’t played yet.
    I think Giratina looks scary.