The conclusion to a two-episode battle comes tonight in about half an hour! Will it be Ash, who has trained for 20 years and is long overdue for a heroic victory, or the Mega Evolution champion Alain?
THIS IS POKÉMON HISTORY IN THE MAKING PEOPLE! As the image above suggest, we WILL be sharing who comes out victorious so you have been warned. Please use the comments below for your anime discussion. There are various ways to watch Japanese TV online, such as with programs like Keyhole TV, or other methods but we will not be sharing any links to questionable livestreams, sorry. Do at your own risk.
AND THE WINNER IS… Alain!
Let’s enjoy some anime! Is it a coincidence we also get to see new Pokémon Sun & Moon footage today? Hmm…
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Go Ash!
can anyone tell me where to watch live
http://vaughnlive.tv/sherming6666 – starts in 20 mins
http://www.zhanqi.tv/meizhi actually I think this one is the right one
http://vaughnlive.tv/sherming6666
I actually don’t watch the anime anymore but I will watch this because I need to kill time until the gameplay.
Are 20 years of Pokémon, Satoshi wins Kalos League and Champion, fulfills his promises to Serena, Delia, friends, Pokémon, and everyone. I cry for these amazing moments of happiness and love.
He will never win,how would make milk the anime further if he did
He could just go and try to beat the next league anyway? I don’t know why him winning the league anywhere would stop him from doing so. This is the thing I’ve never understood about the anime.
It would make him achieve something,who wants that?
Plenty of people considering how many fans complain that he never wins.
Oh my god these Japanese commercials are plain terrible
Well that was a disappointing episode…
e-yep.
Seriously it was obvious he’d lose. They needed a reason to bring him back for the Alola series. Even though I had hope. Oh well.
I had hoped he would finally win and I thought it would make sense for it to be before Alola with Sun & Moon shaking everything up he could win his ‘final’ league match under the normal format and start a fresh with the new island format with whatever the league situation is with that game etc.
True, that would make sense actually but honestly I personally have wanted Ash to be replaced even since the diamond and pearl series. He may still be 10 but he’s still getting old.
He doesn’t have to lose in order to go to alola. Geez :/ Alola’s endgame in the games is to create a pokemon league, and the anime mirrors the game on major facts such as this. IF ash was champion, he would have to go to alola to help build the pokemon league. Durrr. And srsly the writers were lazy, atleast make charizard and greninja fall down, both struggling to get up and greninja doesn’t make it.
In an alternate universe Ash won, one without Mega Evolution…..like reverse Delta Episode
They should’ve let him win so he could be the one to go to Alola and create a league but noooo, he can’t win. Just kill him already along with pikachu and actually make a good anime.
I dont think the point in alola is to create a league anyway, alola has a league but it just has different rules, trial sites=gyms, trial captains=gym leaders, kahunas=elite 4 and so on
Then we should follow the adventures of a new character, who’s older and not retarded
Yes exactly what i want a new main character would be awesome
And no pikachus. If the anime was like that BW2 trailer we got I’d watch it every week
Oh yeah! That animated trailer was really good!
Hey, I want a Raichu, I’ve used a Raichu since the first Pokemon Blue Game came out and I want to see a main character use a Raichu as their main Pokemon.
Who cares man? Making the protagonist lose gives fans the incentive to keep following the series. After today I’m fairly certain they will never let Ash win a league, unless its the series’s finale.
Dude, it’s been 20 years. Ash’s still stupid, pikachu is not special anymore, team rocket is cool but doesn’t do anything major, and the whole story is always the same: getting badges, (re)discovering pokemon, making new friends, making bad decisions and defeating an evil team ( who could easily kill them but nooo that never happens). They need another story, something in the world of pokemon but more mature. If they made a series like pkm origins or that bw2 trailer I’m sure WAY more people would be watching it. Kids watch anything so it wouldn’t be a problem
That bw2 trailer was cringey at best
Then you have problems
Well that shit ideal flopped, because I’m never watching this shit ever again!
Watch, Ash will travel with some obnoxious bitch, Team Rocket will get smacked around like losers, and lose the conference once again, for the sake of drooling helmet children!
And since gym battles and conferences won’t exist anymore, Ash is a failure for life! He blew it! Thrice to the same guy on one region! Lost to the final boss once again! Ash-Greninja isn’t even worthy of being classified as a Mega Evolution! Everyone else gets the megas Ash should’ve had! No Mega Sceptile, no Mega Charizard X, no Mega Charizard Y, no Mega Heracross, NOTHING! He just loses like any other conference! FUCK!
This was all for nothing! It’s the same damn show! This region never happened! Nothing of value happened. EV Training > Ash’s retarded journey/fillers!
Just watch Baki the Grappler Maximum Tournament for a good tournament victory fix, because the writers have no interest of letting Ash win AND keep the journey going. Or create your own Pokemon anime headcanon completely distant from this series!
This was a waste.
You my friend WIN INTETERNET OF TODAY! Best rant/comment ever… This gave me life and hope ????
All this. I think I’m actually depressed because of this episode. The disappointment is too damn high.
Nope.
Goku wins, the digidestined win, wed all still watch if Ash won. I stopped watching ages ago because he was a terrible trainer. He wasnt bad this season, you really thought maybe he could win, but he loses again.
Lmao i freaking knew it ash always loses league battles smh it would had been cool if he won but maybe…that means he is not really a pokemon master *x-files music starts playing*
Okay, even though I’m upset that Ash lost, the episode was far from a disappointment. The battle between Charizard and Greninja was amazing, the music was jammin’, the animation was top notch, and the Team Flare attack looks to be epic. I’m really excited to see how all of this will play out!!!
Why the heck did Ash have to lose AGAIN? Ash-Greninja was so OP and everything and now he just loses. Didn’t watch the episode yet but seriously… There’s the description for the next episode and it says Ash is announced as the winner when Flare attacks but noooo… I’m so dissapointed. Not because of Ash losing but because of his most OP Pokémon achieving nothing in the end.
I’m literally done with the anime.
okay guys let’s focus on gamescom, so we’ll see what’s going to be in Pokemon Sun and Moon.
4 more hours to go 😀
Forever a loser
He’s like, almost 30, still continues to lose and no girlfriend
Even though it would’ve been cool to see Ash win, it’s still been an awesome show and I can’t wait to see what else happens. The gym battles have been amazing, the music top notch, the character development was good. I’m a bit disappointed but very satisfied.
okay guys we got four hours until gamescom will give us some more detail on Pokemon Sun and Moon,so I just like everyone to stay focused and keep you’re mind off of certain trainers League losing streak.
It’s official: Ash has worse track record than Leonardo Di Caprio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFTc3PjjCD4
#MakePokemonGreatAgain
I wish they would make an as anime like this…maybe one day.
I still cry when I remember this trailer exists. Pokemon, continue the current show for kids, but pls make one for the older audience.
Yes my thoughts exactly! A more mature pokemon!
Pokemon Origins doesn’t do a bad job of a slightly more mature anime. I feel bad for Ash- he will forever be stuck being the same generic character.
This trailer was epic. That Arcanine/Samurott combo murdering that Seviper was amazing to see.
Altough I’m still pissed about today’s episode, I must say: The animation of the XYZ series is on par with this trailer now.
The story and characters though 🙁
Real bummer…. It’s like if he wins, Arceus destroys the world… lol
They treat Ash like the Harbringer of the Apocalypse, if he wins the franchise is doomed…
Pokemon needs a new director who can actually shake things up a bit
Well, they actually did and… they shook things up a bit. a TINY. LITTLE. BIT.
But it ended the same way
Yea, they could have had Ash win AND continue with his journey. Ash doesn’t want to be Kalos Champion, he was to be the a Pokemon Master, laterally the strongest Trainer ever!
Dood that trailer was sick. Anyone think that Elesa in that trailer sounded kinda like ash?
Knew it.
I said Alain would win 😀
Called it,pokemon origins is the only pokemon anime where the protagonist is not a loser and that will never change
3 hours Left until Gamesom.XD
4h (for what matters)
it’s 4:02 where i am
it’s still 3h and 58 minutes away, which is closer to 4h than to 3h lol
Ok 🙂
I could be wrong but isnt this the first leage where he actually got to the champion round? If so then he has improved alot compaired to eariler ^-^ i started watching the anime but for some reason stopped :/ i will watch all of Alola region :3
Poor Ash… Well, 7 is a lucky number, he’ll win in next gen maybe?
That’s it; I’m done with hoping that anything will change with the anime.
I know I was so shocked, I honestly though Ash was going to win. I don’t even know if I’m going to watch the Pokemon anime anymore……
There’s pretty much no point. Their formula is more clear than ever now.
Well, we might have hope, this next gen doesn’t have a true Pokemon League like the Orange Islands, so Ash might win.
Not that it would even matter.
He won the Orange Island League against an undefeated opponent with a Dragonite.
The Orange Islands was meaningless. Just like the Battle Frontier.
At it was meaningless how? Both places challenged Ash, both help him get strong and both where wins for him.
The orange islands allowed Ash to rechallenge the gyms if he lost, and he only had to win one battle with a champion at the end. The champion isn’t even that strong either, since he focused entirely on his Dragonite, which is why Ash still had 4 Pokemon left by the time he sent out Dragonite.
The battle frontier also lets Ash rechallenge until he wins. Didn’t he lose to the last guy twice before winning?
So, Ash has rechallenged Gyms before in main Leagues. Look at Wulfic(I dont know if I spelled that right.) Look at Clair. And Brandon had used the Regis. So I don’t think Battle frontier was a waste of time, and neither was Orange League. Because in the end it helped Ash and Charizard bond. So take your misguided and misinformed hate else where. And leave the fans that have TRULY been watching the series since day 1.
been watching since day one. 20 long years. you are in denial. Orange league was filler and doesn’t count. The frontier brains don’t count because they havn’t been referenced at all. that is what makes it pointless. the fact he made it through the battle frontier should earn Ash recognition, but it didn’t. he should have global renown by know due to his near victories in each league. This is the crux of the issue. the anime doesn’t let Ash as a character evolve.
Because they were just half baked mini challenges. Not real Pokémon Leagues.
You, you say that. But Ash had to complete Challenges that relied on skill and trust in his Pokemon. A Pokemon battle is easy enough, but when you start trying to go beyond that it gets hard look at the Pokemon Contests in the show. So if you think they are mini challenges, think again. They where just as hard if not harder then the Gyms Ash had to face. And the Battle frontier was one of Ash’s hardest challenges. Especially Brandon. So no they where not half baked mini challenges.
Believe what you wanna believe, dude. But the fact that Ash can win those and not a championship gives most the impression they’re minor, which they are. And the fact that Ash can’t win a championship shows how lazy the writers are.
every season all ash skill have learned reduced back to trash… no point watching it… so much plot holes
The only thing I see ash winning is the Alola trials, maybe since they’re so far removed from the conventional League the writers will let him “win” like he did in the orange islands.
To me it will feel sorta cheap because its not a win that was done with the conventional type league like orange island was except this has some officallness to it.I am torn of the out come when they get around to it
Guys Gamescom is On! check Youtube!
Only doing singing at the moment. Oddly singing in English despite being in Germany 😛
And I never thought knowing German would come in handy.
Lol what a pathetic piece of shit battle. Done with anime, this is ridiculous.
I Love Pokemon and Anime!
Liquidate the anime, kill Ash and reboot the fucking series or focus on Origins. How can they after 20 years still make him lose?
What are your guys’ ideal team? Mine is: Zoroark (starter), Gardevoir, Salamence, Milotic, Lucario and Volcarona (shiny). (if pkm were real, not talking about competitive battling)
Mine is Scyther (my personal favorite, and in this case the starter), Arcanine, Lucario, Tyrantrum, Milotic and Pidgeot (with a Mega Stone, heh)
Lucario’s amazing indeed 🙂 I would want to get one of my pkm through an egg, maybe riolu or bagon?
Riolu is the one that needs bond with the trainer, so him. We’ll have enough trouble raising Feebas’ beauty though… lol
Yeah, that’s what I thought. And concerning feebas, nothing that make up and some flattering can’t fix 😉
Yeah, make up. LOTS OF IT.
I think I’m the only one that does not evolve Scyther into Scizor this days….
Feebas is not that bad tbh, it just needs some lipstick. I love scizor more than scyther but I get you.
It’s like twins: Scyther is the collest one, Scizor is the sucessful one….
Umbreon(my stater evolved from an Eevee), Ninetales, Togekiss, Empoleon, Torterra, and Luxray
Ninetales: which one? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
The original lol but I do love it’s a loan form?
Well, now we can have both on the same team. Different, yet the same!
Yes I was thinking about doing just that! Fire?and ❄ice!
Fire always beats ice
Lapras Cloyster etc
They’re part water, and besides Lapras and Cloyster are bulky as fuck
Wow, I forgot Lapras! Man, I’m so sad right now…
Sarcasm?
Me? Not at all, I’m sad I forgot Lapras and put Milotic in… Altough it’s a very close call between the two for me….
Hey sorry I realised that after I posted it haha 🙂
OMG I just thought of something! What about an ice type that have an ability to turn it into a water type when hit by a fire type move?! That would be epic! ?❄?
They should do a Pokemon based on a the states of water shifting from Water, Ice, and….I guess Flying but that means it has to have a Psychic primary type since the whole pure flying thing
Would u settle for a Psychic Water Molecule? That shifts type based on what hits it
I could settle for that! it’s a really unique idea and I would love to see a pokemon like that.
Do you always pay your debts? And I hope you have no simblings
Valar Morghulis
Glad Arya got away from that city. Would you fancy some cake?
I’ll pass lol but I really thought waif was going to get her! Glad she didn’t cause she’s one of my favorite characters.
Same! I was actually scared when waif kept running after her like a psycho haha. I think that’s the test she needed to pass though. And as much as I hated cersei before I can’t help but love her for being so bad. Blowing up a whole cathedral full of people she hated was amazing. And the sip of wine she took afterwards? x)
I know waif had that crazy terminator run down pat! I also loved the cersei moment at the end. And the look on the high sparrows face when he heard the rumbling was like( dang I just messed up didn’t i?) And danerys and her fleet of ships and dragons oh boy I can’t wait for the next season!
I want dany to kill everyone
I just hope she doesn’t go murder crazy…. it does run in the family lol
I think she will haha She’ll eventually get the throne and realize that that’s not what she wants. Westeros’s completely destroyed so she decides to kill herself. The end
Now it’s time for cersei to burn! Drogon I choose you!
I’m getting one for my first playthrough
(Not for nothing that sounds like the most generic of generic teams some offense)
Hmmm that’s a very good question
In the whole Pokeverse myself exists on two different choices
Pure Ground Monos and The current Generation’s Pokemon
Obviously Rhyperior and Excadrill are a must
But then again Heracross, Emboar and Aerodactyl are usually my inner circle
They are very popular pkm but they’re the ones that I love. Salamance has been my fave dragon since it was revealed, milotic is beautiful and gracious and my fave water type. I’ve always chosen gardevoir even before the mega and fairy type, Lucario’s just awesome and you can talk to him, volcarona is strong and cool and finally Zoroark is one of my favorite pokemon ever (I love dark type)
*Yawn* I stopped listening after Popular, because everyone has nearly the same thing nowadays as those populars rank high on the charts and get all the attention
I don’t play competitive so I don’t care about that. Out of all the pseudo legendaries, salamence is the only one I actually like. And we’re talking about real life here, a gardevoir would be way more useful (teleport, hello?) than an excadrill or rhyperior.
It’s called demolishing everything in my path
Lucario and milotic alone would kill them right away
Solid Rock into Super Effective Earthquake and Metal Burst
Still, with a weak special defense like that it ain’t going far
Don’t forget Solid Rock reduces SE damage and whenever i use Rhyperior Hippowdon is never far away which means you’ll fight me in the sand which boosts my SP Def by 50% and I’m usually sporting Assault Vest or Focus Sash
All I need to do is endure the hit then Metal Bust
Milotic just needs to use rain dance. And we’re talking about REAL LIFE, if pokemon existed. Items like that wouldn’t exist + who the hell would keep changing pokemon every other round?
If this were Pokemon real life
I’d use Rhyperior to bore into the ground and break it from underneath and cause a huge hole to swallow up Milotic and though Milotic can mildly levitate it cannot achieve flight of any kinda flight so it’s literally shooting fish in a barrel from that point
It can just keep surfing when rhyperior goes underground + it has recover
Not when it’s buried underground
It can fill the hole with water
And while you do that a nose dive Megahorn directly on top of it
Protect
Then rush it into a wall with swords dance and as soon as protect fades or shatters I’ll use Rock Wrecker at point blank range
That will definitely destroy Milotic
Milotic’s way faster than Rhyperior, good luck catching up with it
Pikachu as my starter.
Gengar
Garchomp
Tyranitar
Milotic
Greninja
The pikachu and greninja though. Ash?
At least he wins every league…
How did you know I’m ash :
But yeah pikachu as my starter.
Greninja was a close call with Feraligatr
Haxorus, Empoleon, Arcanine, Gengar, Pidgeot and Luxray (I didn’t choose some of my favorite Pokémon like Samurott and Dragalge because of double typings).
Starter: Sneasel to evolve to Weavile
Ambipom
Popplio
Politoed
Porygon2
Torterra
Edit
Weavile
Popplio
Politoed
Torterra
Goodra
Flygon
I love ambipom, why leave it out : O
True I was having trouble with the list knowing I want Ambipom and Porygon2 yet also Flygon and Goodra actually my team
Weavile
Ambipom
Goodra
Politoed
Torterra
Porygon2
Popplio can be saved for later use.
Weavile is also one of my favorite pokemon ( partly for being half dark) + ambipom’s so cool.
Togekiss (starter)
Torterra
Ampharos
Arcanine
Zangoose
Quagsire
Swirlix
Clefable
White Florges
Raichu
Banette
Gorebyss
Oooh great question. I’d use
Garchomp (starter)
Hydreigon
Sceptile
Charizard
Greninja
Yanmega
fact is I’m not even sure I have a favourite poké, there are loads that I adore, this is just the team I’d pictured myself with in an anime-style world.
(Lol I know this stream is long abandoned, but couldn’t resist answering :p )
The giant shuriken looked like it didn’t even damaged Charizard. These writers are a bunch of frauds. Should deactivate their lives.
Fantastic episode. This really was Ash’s ultimate match.
It is a shame it didn’t go his way, as I’d have loved for him to win.
For the team and trainer he was up against he did better than I ever thought was possible after BW.
Great episode and let’s see what happens now with Zygarde 🙂
Writers will try to earn our trust back, by having Ash beat Zygarde 100% and save Kalos, or something along that line. Bunch of frauds the lot of them
Ah the writers have my trust. It was a great battle I’m sad at the outcome but it truly was an ultimate battle. 🙂
Ultimate battle? Goodra v Bisharp was better than Greninja v Charizard. The writers made a very bad decision, with ratings of the anime already dropping because Yokai.
I’m going to be training my fire type Pokemon,so how many hours left until we get some gameplay on Pokemon Sun and Moon?
Who cares SUN & MOON stream in 3ish hours!!!!
Yeaaah SUN & MOON!
Let’s see maybe Pikipek Evo, at least one Starter Evo., new Alolan form (Dragonite), Town/City name!!!
let’s hope so.
Or how exactly trials will work and are we still doing the thing to show the livestream
Uhhh would it really kill the writers to let him win a legit finals match? It would do great for his character development. He seems stronger every season, and yet he still can’t win a league. Such a shame they do this every time. Would not be surprised if he wins the Alolan “league” though, but that doesn’t hold much of a candle to him winning a traditional league challenge, imo. Oh well. 🙁
Oh wow, Matsumoto is trending on Twitter. Think she’ll be subject to A LOT of abuse. This was to be expected.
Watch the writers pull a fast one after seeing the ratings, and give Ash the title at the end of the TF arc to sooth people.
It’s 5:00 where i am!
5:00pm Germany time
So how many hours left?!
Just under 3
Dang slow time!
Everywhere cause in US under 3 as well
Then I think it’s time we had someone else do the TV show. Ash has had 20 years to win, and he hasn’t yet. He’s not a Pokémon Master and he doesn’t catch them all. Bad Ash! You don’t obey Pokémon’s rules. We need a new protagonist.
As long as he has Popplio I’m fine
Hopefully a salandit will poison and kill Ash even before he has the chance to get a starter
Kill the writers, not Ash
All of them
I can’t!! This comment made my morning!!! Lmao! Salsa fit killing ash… No, they need to throw a wheezing and a salad it in a room with the writers and let them use smog to see how that feels.
couldnt agree more
Unless they plan on rebooting the series, there is literally no viable argument that supports the outcome of this episode. Ratings have been steadily dropping for a long time now, and if they had Ash win it, it would’ve gone back to growing again.
The new writers for XY still suck at this they are even worse than the last ones!!!!
They replaced the B/W writers with these guys and for a very long time, it all looked so good, and they just destroyed all of that with one fucked up decision.
For me personally I would like him to be a little like BW catching lots of unique Pokemon and broadening his team but no!
Guys gamescom is starting!
Where’s the stream then?? Oh right we have to wait
Check Youtube!
Mind posting a link I can’t get it and only here for Pokemon!
Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0hbHxvKCro
Does Sun and moon start at 11?
I dunno.
Hmmm well let’s just watch
OK! XD
It stars in less than 3 hours
Ok Yeah yet what time exactly 8:30, 9, 10?
I live in Paris, which means it’s the same time here as in Cologne. It’ll start at 17h here, idk there (and it’s 14h25)
Aww I guess I have to watch
Good thing I know a small bit of German yet I can’t tell what they say
I could make fries with all this salt.
Tasty Tasty Fries!!!
um you do kn ow to much salt can kill you right? this is 20 years worth of ash losing salt, thats enough to make the salt water ocean just salt oceans
alolas waters
yummy yummy yum!!!
Olympia is a fraud, she rustled the entire anime fanbase with one sentence. ”Both of you will reach new heights together”
That moment Ash is trending worldwide, but most of it is filled with negative comments about how they’ll never watch the anime again. #PokemonAnimeisoverparty #Ashdeservestowin #MakePokemonAnimeGreatAgain
Gimme the hashtags, i want in.
Okay Ash you suck at the gym challenge. Go try the island challenge down in Alola.
They literally pulled a Tobias, again. Starting to suspect they’re doing it on purpose.
I woke up just to stream (illegally) the episode to witness Pokemon history, but instead simply witnessed fraud in person. Alain did not win in my eyes. Ash did and that’s all that matters. Poor writing coupled with terrible excuses are how the episode was made. And yes, I’m very salty, now go make me some fries.
I dont want to see Alain’s face, every again.
happy belated bday 🙂
What’s with the salt? He had a good solid team this season and it’s the closest Ash has ever gotten to winning the league o.o
Guys Shigeki Morimoto is on Staage NOW!
Will someone who can post discussions post one for the Stream it’s more important than the anime!
http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20160818T17&p0=311&msg=Countdown+to+Pokemon+at+Gamescom&font=hand&csz=1
They will when it’s time
But last me what they did last time an article a countdown on it and the video to start it right their
I think one hour before it’s up they’ll post an article. If they did it now people would just talk about random things
Oh I gotcha I must have missed that from the last one
Patience 🙂 There will be a post up soon
Yeah you tell him Hax!
Hey I said I’ll be calm
Lol im playing
Ok I’m not good with jokes it’s hard to tell for me.
Okay I’ll be calm I’ll just post this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1yZ88YYnnwo
Those look cool, especially weavile
Yup today is filled with good Steven Universe tonight, Pokemon in the morning see great today
The episode already leaked on Tues if you want to watch it sooner though btw
Nah I can wait
I don’t know if anyone cares but we’re getting a new gaga single next month. *cries*
Wow I thought she was done 😮
She’s been doing jazz and working on a new album, and after 3 years the new single is finally coming out. She’s worked with tame impala and mark ronson : O I used to listen to her all the time but since 2012 it’s been Lana Del Rey 24/7. But glad gaga’s releasing non-jazz songs again
Mhmm I love Lana too
Come here, daddy ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
:/
..
Oh my god. It turns out, they brought back the B/W writers for the final.
OF FRICKIN COURSE!! They must hat Ash. First they made him stupid in B/W and now they make him fall at his highest peak. Buuncha pricks is what they are.
uh Guys Shigeki Morimoto is on Staage NOW!
Just about color splash now
oh
It’s okay S/M soon
YaaaaaH!
Yes
Screw the writers!!! After 20 yes they couldn’t give him the win. They doomed us all!!!! Ash-greeninja clearly hits consecutively and on here he didn’t do sht. They hyped me up with altaria’s loss and mega Sceptile but on here they added some depressive song AND THAT FIRE/Water shuriken didn’t do sht to charzard ????.. The anime will Loose a lot of viewers. Now I want to see the writers reaction to that lol!
What’s with the salt? He had a good solid team this season, Alain had
strong pokemon as well so it’s believable, and it’s the closest Ash has
ever gotten to winning the league o.o I can actually believe this loss
over Unova where he just caught a massive stroke of stupidity, used an Oshawott against a freakin Hydreigon and lost against a guy who not only forgot that he needed 6 pokemon for the battle, but turned out his sixth was the regional rodent. =.=
Alain is a fraud.
Hey the way I see it, he’s better than the random guy with legendaries in Sinnoh and the forgetful guy in Unova who won cause his Riolu evolved.
Numerous people now expecting Ash will still get the title because Alain will be exposed as working for Team Flare
Sounds legit
What happened exactly? Team Flare disrupted the battle and they gave it to alain?
No, it was a regular 6v6 and Ash was basically dominating the whole thing, until the writers made the decision to reset Ash-Greninja to level 5 and transform Alain into Tobias.
So why would Ash get the title if Alain were to be exposed? He still won the battle
Because Team Flare want to terrorize Kalos? And Alain is helping them in doing it. He’s a criminal?
but Alain still won the battle fair and square, I don’t get how being a member of team flare would change that.
Why give ash a trophy for mediocrity
Yeah, this isn’t Gen One xP
Ash was better than Alain, the whole battle. Then suddenly they decided to make his Charizard look like a deity and Greninja like an ant.
Unacceptable. They hyped us with the Diantha, Wulfric and Sawyer battles. Not to mention the Greninja recap vid they released in June, only to disappoint us, yet again.
that doesn’t really change much, I watched it, clearly Alains charazard was just better than Ash’s greninja, while his other pokemon were on par with his other pokemon
Dude if Ash-Greninja is on par with Diantha’s Gardevoir, its clearly stronger than Charizard. The writers just took the easy route, again.
Not necessarily, we never saw Alain’s Charizard go against that Gardevoir.
Doesn’t change the fact they choose the easy route. Him losing means many people will continue to watch the show. If he’d have won they might have feared that the show would die out.
Yeah, pretty much. I guess I was one of the few who assumed he wouldn’t win. I mean, it’s like Gilligan leaving the island xD
Honestly I think if he had won it would make more people watch it, most people are tired of seeing him lose.
I am tired of his presence in general
well did gardevoir beat charazard? if not then it still stands as the better pokemon
He’s a criminal but he still won the battle. They’d have to organize another tournament, not give it to Ash
OHHH so that happen. I thought they actually had thrown in a mega snivy with fire on its tail and wings!! Thanks for clarifying!!!
6:00 in US
Now I really hope Ash never wins anything, because no region deserves to have him as their champion
Wouldn’t be the champion anyway if he’d have won, Diantha’s the champ.
You NEED to stop. When anyone talks about Ash being champion even after this battle, they mean in the end if he gets to challenge Diantha. Stop being so technical!
What kind of answer is that after you almost defeated megabride with a NORMAL SHURIKEN!! And she is too Pokemon of the KALOS LEAGUE!
Except Orange Island and the battle Fronteir!
He would’ve lost to the first person who challenged him. And by this time there must be other champions already
Yeah and In the orange islands that was his easiest match his first down was a tie and he beat half of Drakes team with that
They really broke my heart with this one. Ash really deserved this. The agony should’ve ended today.
almost 2 hours left right right ?
Yup
That’s my hope right there. This is what keeps me going even after suffering such loss from that mega snivy vs ash greeninja battle … OH THE HORROR!!!
jp?…….r u the dark side of PJ?
left right up down right right left
Thought you were entering a cheat code
It’s up up down down left right left right B A Start
That’s exactly wat I meant.
I live in the Netherlands, so time here as it is in Germany. Its a little over 90 mins left.
Omg a fellow Dutchman ??
Inb4 all that is shown today is the sand castle pokemon x)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkDBCBiFsMs
The dislikes are real!
They buried the show, with one stupid decision. Watch SuMo series collapsing after 10 episodes
That…..seems a little harsh lol
Harsh, but that’s the first time they got everybody excited for change (Ash winning), only to go back to status quo in the end.
They kinda deserve it, not for the fight, but really, he is basically the only main protagonist on a big anime that didn’t achieve much after 20 years….
Fully deserved
Alain and Numbuh 55 Vs Team Flare!
I gotta admit they got me. After 18 years of watching the anime for the first time I actually thought Ash might win. The only other time I thought he actually desereved to win was the Sinnoh conference, but I honestly am a little surprised! Good going Pokemon anime . You got me!! lol
I’m befriending the commenters on the live stream on youtube lol
Link?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0hbHxvKCro
What is that stupid plopping sound that goes off every 5 seconds
Being honest, the only anime-related thing I’m upset about is how they throw in the boring Team Arc after the league now =/ The N-Saga was boring filler, no new pokemon, no new moves, no evolutions, and now it’s Team Flare’s turn! =D *Roll Eyes*
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I meant article spell check is bad
an article stupid spell check
This is stupid.
They get everyone hyped, for the first time I believed that ash would win. XY in general was very good, but the league aside from Shouta Vs Ash sucked.
Alain winning makes no sense. He already beat Ash twice before and already collected mega evolution energy for team Flare.
Sun/moon will not have gyms, so this was Ash’s last chance
Still very sad and hurting, but I’ve just realized that Ash has now reached every stage in a league conference at least once. I don’t know how they will do it, but at this point I actually believe he might really win the Alola league.
He got the final for the 1st time, it shows he has vastly improved as a trainer, but also as a person.
there is no alola league, this was his last chance, alola has island challenges
Just because ash lost doesn’t mean a thing. Remember Alan is in alliance with Team flare. What i think is going to happen.
Ash fights alan in a good vs evil battle during saving the world from zygarde. This is when ash beats alan, maybe with the epic water shuriken?
Diantha finds out that Alan was actually bad and was working for team flare. With that in mind, after ash beats Alan, she announces Ash as the winner, in which he goes on to beat the elite four and champion.
Just because he lost here, doesn’t mean we can lose hope. Remember, we have different writers. in the past, after ash lost the leauge, pretty much nothing happened. Just, oh, i lost. Lets go to a new region. But now, team flare is attacking while everyone is watching. Only one minute of Alan’s glory.
Think about it this way, we haven’t reach the epic climax of this arc. Remember how the Kalos leauge felt rushed? It may because there is way more to come i believe.
hope you’re right
Dood trust me I am right
Only problem with that theory: The rest of the arc is going to be about Team Flare and then we’re going on to the Sun and Moon anime, so that’s not gonna happen. Besides, even if Ash were presented with that kind of opportunity, knowing how stupid he is, he’d say “No, Alain won, I lost! I didn’t earn it!”
Alain did win. He is in the league rules. He has all the badges and won is way through the league without cheating. He earned the title and accepted the price at the league ceremony. The league is officially over. Even if they found out Alain was involved with the big bad, they’ll redeem him eventually.
Alain will be fighting beside Ash though. He’s not the enemy.
I could definitely see this happening, but I feel like this match would still somewhat taint Ash’s title. Even if Ash beat Alain a dozen times after it wouldn’t matter cause he lost when at the League.
I wish I was this optimistic.
I hope thou is correct
Just stop…
Wow, you haven’t learned anything from a decade of watching this loser. Remember this from the kanto Arc? Gary was right.
I agree with Brant. That is Eggzactly what I thought
But I got so mad when he lost.
What a shocking revelation…I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude im so sad
I had sooooooo much hope that ash would win but then greninga falls, I thought he would get back up but then I saw him lose his form.
I JUST FINISHED WATCHING FUCK IT NEVER WATCHING AGAIN
One thing today proves. That Charizard retains its crown as the all time favourite.
Greninja who?
My theory: ash will die and there will be a new protagonist
Then all Pokemon will die then protagonist saves the world
Then there will be a new pikachu greninja.
I have been working very hard on this theory. Give it a thumbs up if u like it
Lol. People really thought Ash would win?
Yea it said kalos league victory dumbass
Woah, I think you need to get off the Internet for a while.
Y miss
Everyone plz listen I have a theory:
Ash loses kalos league
Then he beats team flare and Alan
Ash becomes kalos league champion
Ash and Serena get a baby
The new kid will be the new protagonist and ash will be a Pokemon master
I think there will be a new protagonist because…
1.no more gyms now so it’s like a new era
2. Pokemons 20th anniversary
3. also because of the ash Serena thing
only problem is, ash is ten… Not even teen pregnancy
Maybe there is a time skip
Alan is going to be fighting beside Ash though.
Has that been confirmed at all? The previews show Ash with Alain but that doesn’t mean Alain won’t side with Team Flare once he finds out the invasion was there plan.
The preview shows Lysandre announcing the attack via broad cast so Alain does know it was his idea, and the magazine preview does show Alain standing side by side with Ash and the gang during the attack.
Idk, I still could see a chance that Lysandre deceives Alain again and gets him to turn against Ash and the gang.
Alain is not THAT stupid. Let’s face it. Ash just lost to some douche 3 times in a row, and won’t ever battle him again. They just screwed up. End of story.
Its not that Alain is stupid, he just wants protect the ones he cares about. Team flare can also use that Chespin that is still in the hospital as blackmail to force him back to their side
I’m sorry but I really don’t see that happening. Lysandre has no reason to keep Alain anymore. His job’s done. So need to hold a hostage for him. It doesn’t make a difference anyway. Even if he beat him a second time. He still didn’t win the league.
Nah Pokemon won’t do that. Trust me
I agree fam
W. T. F! ???
if they get rid of Ash’s traveling companions( at least keep Clemont& Bonnie or Serena…leaning more towards Serena), I will ragequit.
…really? you are all surprised? come on, ash has been dragging down the show for about 20 years now! how are you all surprised he lost? or even upset, knowing it would happen?
1) Because this is the first time he reached the damn FINALS and 2) because Alola clearly is not going to have a traditional Gym based league so this may as well have been his last chance to claim the title of Champion.
didn’t he face of against Harrison in the johto finals?
No pretty sure those were Semifinals.
man the anime maker are fools im sad and angry why ash can never win
i wish they would make a seperate pokemon anime one for adults (including Winning the Legaue) and one for childs (where ash always will be 10 and in every leuage a punch bag for Alain and against the others he loses) gosh at this rate ash will alwaya be 10 and a pokemon trainer his pikachu schould be at level 100 but at every new region he will lose against a level 5 starter…..
Man, even I could beat Ash! If I were thrown into the Pokemon world at random, were given five minutes to go catch a random Pokemon and if it was lvl 5 Ratata, I would ANNIHILATE his Pikachu. That’s how bad a trainer he is.
Seriously, how the hell do you lose Charizard (Mega Evolved or not) when the type advantage clearly favors your Pokemon. I could understand if Alain were THAT much better, but he wasn’t. Ash is garbage. That’s why.
It’s not that Ash is garbage. Charizard is the overhyped piece of **** here. He shouldn’t have been able to survive through something that killed Mega Sceptile despite advantage.
Let’s be more specific. MEGA CHARIZARD X. By far the most overhyped Mega in existance.
-Who gets more love than Mega Charizard Y?
-Who managed to BEAT Mega Charizard Y?
-Which Mega became Charizard’s Final Smash in SSB4?
-Who’s the Mega of an already overhyped Pokemon?
-Who gained an already overhyped type as a secondary type
-And strangely enough, who has the same typing as the Pokemon revealed today (and may become Alain’s Charizard/Cameron’s Lucario/Harrison’s Blaziken’s/Tyson’s Meowth 2.0)?
…
*preview for next episode*
Lol the dislikes.
Also, first post :3
I QUIT FROM POKEMON……
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I don’t know anything anymore dude
This is complete and utter BS. Why the hell can’t he win one league? Some people are blaming Ash himself, though that isn’t entirely correct, most of it is the F*ing writers of the Anime who are to blame.
Seriously, he has more then earned a victory in a League by now. I was biting my nails hoping he would win this time around, it looked so damned close too. And then… poof, all my hopes for Ash’s victory destroyed. The poor guy is never going to get his break is he?
Would love to see Ash fight Alain again in the Team Flare Arc and win this time.
This is why I stick to the pokemon adventures manga like super glue.
Meanwhile in an alternate universe…
Why won’t Ash lose.Every single league he always wins.Just once Gamefreak should teach us it’s okay to lose.
Maybe you can give us a wormhole streaming service link, so we can watch at least ONE region finale of THAT series instead.
I call it “PolarOpptimum”.
mess, why are people having meltdowns? this is how they keep the series going. How would Ash go to Aloha and start his journey over again if he wins the kalos league and potentially becomes a pokemon master?
Because Conference Champion or even League Champion does not equel Pokemon Master. No one knows what a Pokemon Master is, because the series never gave us any expositiin as to what that title means. At this point, it’s nothing more than gibberish and the same pedestal as ‘ttebayo.
Dragon Warrior and Celestial Phoenix have more coherent meaning than “Pokemon Master” (which I will quote from this point on).
Just watched, and I got to say…
What the actual FUCK?! I swear Ash should have won. It would have made SO much more sense if Alan lost because of a story perspective. I-I-I need time to think about this…
Ash is the worst character and protagonist created in Pokemon history, he is just useless. He can be replaced by a Magikarp and nobody would notice,even Pikachu only saying one word since 1997 have more potential and charisma than Ash.
He lost…. again. All that build up and he lost AGAIN…
Screw this show.
Mwahahahahahahahaha! As I expected, Ash lost the Kalos League. Wow, he lost 6 Pokemon Leagues in a row, a new record. Gary was right, Ash really IS a loser. Well done, Gary Oak, well done!
I’m honestly not all that mad, just disappointed. After all the build up, saying he was going to win, telling people he was definitely going to win, I don’t think I could even show my face after saying all that. I get it, you want to continue the anime, but i’ve honestly lost hope in the Pokemon anime. At this point i’d be happy with Ash sacrificing himself and the series having a new main character. Please, just end his suffering. It’s not even his fault. The writers are making up this shit just to keep it running. I feel bad for people like me who have watched Ash lose again and again. I don’t even feel mad anymore, I just want it to end. Either by him winning something or the anime simply ending.
I have already watched the full battle between them in Japanese and had the sub on that but still not gonna watch the rest of anymore of this