New Moves for Zygarde!

Recent RAM dumps of XY by Slashmolder on GBATemp have brought to light  new moves that may have be related to the Legendary Pokémon, Zygarde. Three new moves have been discovered in total, with further details such as power, accuracy and description (hidden in the spoiler below)

[spoiler]Hold Hands
Normal (Special)
Power: —
Accuracy: —
PP: 40
The user and an ally hold hands.
This makes them very happy.

Thousand Arrows
Ground (Physical)
Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
This move also hits opposing Pokemon
that are in the air. Those Pokemon are
knocked down to the ground.

Thousand Waves
Ground (Physical)
Power: 90
Accuracy: 100
PP: 10
The user attacks with a wave
that crawls along the ground.
Those hit can’t flee from battle.[/spoiler]

What do you guys think? I think it’s a huge hint that we’ll be getting two new games like we did with  BW2 🙂 Thousand Waves also caught my eye, could this be a better version of Sand Tomb that has no turn limit?

Small update: We rectified the misattributed source, sorry. We strive to include the original and correct source, but know we can only do so when everyone correctly atrributes the source.

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1,324 thoughts on “New Moves for Zygarde!”

  1. “The user attacks with a wave that crawls along the ground.Those hit can’t flee from battle.” That’s OP

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  2. This to me sounds like a confirmation of Z. With Zygarde getting another Mega and these moves, it sounds great. It gets an ability that reverses type effectiveness, then use Thousand Waves and Thousand arrows and BAM KOed Yv. Also, it has a couple snakish things coming off of it’s back, I think there could develope into 1000.

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    • Why mega -_-
      PEOPLE WHY ARE YOU SHUNNING FORMS? THEY ARE PERMANANT
      Most likely forms they are abusing mega evos now….

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      • Because THEY ARE PERMANENT. It’s Pokedex entry says it turns into it only when there’s chaos. Plus, GF is really focusing on Mega Evos this Gen, and it would make sense.

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        • It turns into into it when the Eco system is in dismay, meaning it does it on its own.
          It was even said in the game it requires the heart of a trainer to activate it so it must be a form change. If it’s a mega I’m going to just quite because we care getting too many…

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          • Mewtwo and Latios/Latias are legends who got mega’s, zygarde will also the same. There is a reason why it has 600 base stats (because Mega’s induce Pokemon with a 100 stat increase).700 base stat Mega Zygarde will tie it with Mega Tyranitar/Mega Garchomp

    • Eviolite Zygarde would be annoying though. It’d have to be a mega unfortunately. ESPECIALLY cause of its stat distribution. If it had ….maybe, a 640 base stat, I would’ve been like, yep, form change coming! But 600 is even TOO low for a form change. Not even Kyurem/Giratina’s were THAT low. This just screams Mega.

      from 600 to 700, rivaling Mega Garchomp/Mega Tyranitar who both have 700.

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        • It can’t. “DUDe-E” said “I want Zygarde to have an Evo & not a mega evo”… I said it would have to be a mega evolution, because if they evolve zygarde naturally, it’ll be able to use Eviolite, making it broken.

          careful nature, 252HP/252Sp Def/6Def, Eviolite, it’d laugh at any moonblast.

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      • True. I’d still prefer a form change over a mega. They’re overhyping the megas too close to the point of pure OP’ness. If this gets a mega, it’ll probably be too powerful and banished to the depths of Uber battles

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        • Well it’s new ability will work like an inverse battle, so it’d probably be straight to Uber by smogon anyway.

          Dragon moves will be super effective against Xerneas, Ground super effective against Yveltal.

          This is why Inverse battles can only be done out from of Terminus Cave (Zygarde’s home)

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          • It’s a theory that backs it up getting a mega.

            Its current ability reverses the effects of Xern/Yvel’s abilities. It’s mega ability will reverse the effects of type advantages instead of abilities.

            How is it that Inverse battles can be only done in a single house? The NPC there doesn’t have any extroardinary powers, he doesn’t realize his home is on top of Zygarde’s home – the one who’s emitting the inverse aura.

            Its also why it has the typing it does, Dragon/Ground.

          • Interesting stuff. I hope the event/Z game adds an interesting plotline to relate that ability to the war

      • However, it says true power, so zygarde is just a mere cocoon. I’m thinking a form change into two things dependent on the moves used

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    • To be fair I want forms as well. But how would go about it. We’ve had item based form changes, we’ve had fusions. ..They need something new.

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  3. Hi hope zygarde gets a nice boost or a new forme, in the next game. Zygarde is such a cool pokemon but I was hoping for its stat layout to be different.

    I’ve heard a few suggestions of giving it a mega evolution which is also an option but honestly I’d prefer a new forme.

    Also this is just my stupidity but where is the hint that we might get two new games like bw2 instead of just one ? 🙂 I think it’ll just be one game again this time, but who knows 😉

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    • there is no hint that we are getting new games at all. I still bet my bottom dollar on DLC expansion update for our current XY games.

      Mainly because the infamous backpacker tells our CURRENT protagonist we will see his region in “due time”… We will have to be using our Current Calem/Serena. ALSO because of Strange Souvenir item, which is the only item not listed in the official strategy guide, and most likely we will keep it in our bags and take it with us to the next region ,unlocking something cool.

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        • Back in Aug, before Xy released. He said “there will no PAID DLC”, keyword… “PAID”… He never said No free DLC. Technically, stuff like Diancie etc is DLC, its content that you download.

          He also said Kalos Pokemon won’t get mega’s… its evident Zygarde will.

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          • NICE! Free expansions! But the Kaolos megas part supports form change theories. The dex says something about it revealing it’s “secret power” at times of environmental distress. I assume the war messed the region so bad Zygarde went ballistic and unleashed this power via form change on the warring nations, thus ending the war

      • That’s what I was thinking exactly because that strange souvenir is a dead giveaway. I was reading the bottom of the article saw that and totally got confused haha

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  4. Ok guys I really needs to know who I gave numbers to! I didn’t write anybody down. Please please please reply to his message if you are in the tourney and have numbers

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  5. I really am going to have to take some people off if I can’t figure out who else is in. I really don’t want to do this but if I can’t get everyone who has numbers I am going to have to

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  6. I want Hoenn 🙁 I’m sorry but I’m selfish and need a remake of hoenn. Then give me a sequel. In fact give me both within 3 months of each other. Then I’ll work on my pokemon issues :p

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    • I think we might revisit hoenn in the 3rd games cause professor sycamore’s
      has heard reports of 2 “mysterious” new mega evoultions( MegaLati@s) and he wants us to go investigate and capture them. Depending on what game we have (X2 for Latios) ( Y2 for Latias) we encounter them throughout our journey through the NEW honen ( similar to how suicune ran around jhoto until you could catch it). After we get the 8th badge they appear infront of us and want to battle! We capture them and they are holding their mega stones! BOOM!

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      • That’s excellent, just imagine the beauty of the locations as well with the 3ds. They could also have team Aqua and magma having their usual storyline but add some twist involving mega evolutions as well 🙂 groudon vs kyogre and rayquaza being summoned in 3d = masterpiece 😀

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  7. Hmm 1000, so many implications 😛
    The norse mythology died out around 1000 c.e., because they were forced to convert to Christianity; of course, we all know the numerous religious wars Christianity would inevitably cause
    Year 1000 marks 1000 years since the birth/death of Jesus, or something like that (im non-religious)
    The 1000 Genome project started in 2008, which strives to further decode the human genome; Anyone remember the X and Y chromosomes? :3
    1000 is 1×10^3; this could mean multiple things, there are three games in the series, 3 legendaries, 3 (real) planes, etc. (Hoenn was gen 3… :P)
    And im sure theres many more c:

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  8. I want pokemon ruby and sapphire remake. After you Finnish the story you can go in kalos 😀 like in pokemon gold and silver

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    • The region/game that borders Kalos will most like have the luxury of doing this. 16 badges. venturing back and forth between Kalos and the germany inspired region. Give us that good old Kanto/Johto feel.

      Backpacker says his region has its own champion, so this further suggests it has its own league & gyms as well.

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    • yup. New Pokemon introduced in the middle of a generation. Never been done before, and what most people think will happen. 69 new Pokemon, really odd.

      And Strange Souvenir is clearly a new Pokemon. As well as the other new Pokemon in Parfum Garden.

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  9. I think we might revisit hoenn in the 3rd games cause professor sycamore’s
    has heard reports of 2 “mysterious” new mega evoultions( MegaLati@s) and he wants us to go investigate and capture them. Depending on what game we have (X2 for Latios) ( Y2 for Latias) we encounter them throughout our journey( just get glimpses of there mega and non mega forms) through the NEW honen ( similar to how suicune ran around jhoto until you could catch it). After we get the 8th badge they appear infront of us and want to battle! We capture them and they are holding their mega stones! BOOM!

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  10. Two new games are a good and a bad thing in my opinion. Bad: People like me will have to get two more games because we love to complete the series of games (ex. getting all D/P/Pt).

    Good: People will have more to do and more money for Game Freak.

    I also don’t want them to be working on two games instead of just one like Emerald because that is time and work that could be used to make Hoenn sequels / remakes the best games ever! 😀

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  11. also, one more thing before i go for now:

    there has been new games every year since 2009

    2009 Platinum
    2010 HeartGold/SoulSilver (10th aniv remake)
    2011 Black&WHite
    2012 B2W2
    2013 XY
    I want
    2014 XY continued
    2015 Emerald remake (10th aniv)

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    • According to the list of trademarked names, Kecleon, Plusle/Minun, Jynx, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza could end up getting mega’s. Every other Pokemon on that list ended up with a mega.

      If Plusle/Minun do, every electric type in hoenn will have received a mega XD

      Also, “Hold Hands” (newly discovered move) is extremely fitting for Plusle/Minun, the two Pokemon that introduced “Helping Hand”. And then theres those rumors of “Pokemon Plus & Pokemon Minus” XD

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  12. I was watching Titanic (great movie) the other day and today April 14th, 102 years ago, it sank :'(

    *Moment of silence for all of those who passed*

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  13. You know what? NLque brought it to my attention that I should have a deadline.

    You have till this Saturday to tell me you want to join and get numbers.
    The tourney will be the next Saturday

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  14. Luigi can one of the rules of this thing be
    Item Clause Please!!!
    It makes it more random so not ever set is near the same

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  15. I want a miley cyrus pokemon with two new moves called twerk(100 power) and twerk guard which is a defensive move…I created a monster

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  16. I think I know what’s my team for next generation : MileyCyrus-mon,Mega Nicki Minaj,Cellphone pokemon, a dragon-tank pokemon, starbucks coffee pokemon and a wicked witch poke

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  17. So i just want to let you gys know i will be on here a lot less in the next 2 weeks. I have to study no-stiop this week(minis today)because I have finals next week.

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  18. So if you want in on the tournament deadline is this Saturday! Everyone is to report to chat so I can get your names down. This is it if you aren’t there then you aren’t in the tourney

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      • Don worry I will get names Saturday I have many people but last call is Saturday I will get you down now. Btw if I have you as a chatango friend that means I have you added to the competition

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  19. DEAR HELIX! 3 GUEST UP-VOTES!!!!!! I SWEAR IF UP-VOTE THIS ONE THEN I’M DONE! I ALREADY RAGE QUITED YESTERDAY BECAUSE OF THIS!

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  20. It’s great that we have two new Ground Type moves, but for the love of Arceus, WHY CAN’T WE GET MORE SPECIAL GROUND TYPE MOVES!!!! And more Special Steel type moves.

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  21. Guys I am sorry. I need to rethink this tournament. The deadline to join (not to have teams ready) is still Saturday but I need to rethink. Many are getting annoyed because I say no to website made pokemon

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  22. Ok guys I need to keep tournament stuff in chat only. Um if we end up going through with the tournament then everything is in there

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  23. When I first say Zygarde I thought it was a bug/dark type instead of a dragon ground type. It just doesn’t scream dragon type to me 😡

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  24. If Mega Evolution can only occur in Kalos, then how will Pokémon Mega Evolve in future regions and Neo Hoenn? My prediction is that more giant Mega Stone Crystals like the one in Anistar City will be discovered in those regions.

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  25. I just thought of something. You know how in B2W2, Colress mentions over and over that he wants to discover the true potential of Pokémon? Could he have been foreshadowing Mega Evolution the whole time?

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  26. If Pokémon can only Mega Evolve with a strong bond with a trainer, then imagine how devastating it would be to have a Pokémon Mega Evolve out of jealousy and through a Dark Energy.

    SHADOW MEGA EVOLUTION!!!

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  27. Okay I find names a bit cheesy and lazy if there is no meaning of thousand, and it is there to make it cool.

    And I find it funny that it says thousand waves and in the desription it says “a wave”.

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    • I was going to make an “it’s been three thousand years” joke, but then I saw there were only two thousand. Let’s Hold Hands anyway.

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  28. Cool! I didn’t know that! I like both moves. I love to destroy Rotoms-W, Talonflames, Charizards, and Gengars with Thousand Arrows ;). Too bad it appears Zygrade exclusive xD.

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  29. I apologize to the pokejungle staff for spamming the disqus chat with all the tourney stuff I promise everything will stay in the chat from now one

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    • Still waiting for a Shadow Side Series Sequel so I can play it for the first time. So far, Chuggaaconroy’s Coliseum and XD Let’s Plays are the closest I’ll ever get to playing them :'(

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  30. I’m going to get going soon. Before I do, I have a quick question. Why isn’t Hoopa last in the National Dex? It could have restarted the “Psychic Mythical Pokémon Ends the National Dex Trend” that Genesect broke in Gen V. And before you say it, Arceus didn’t break it because it can be a Psychic Type.

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          • In Arceus’ case, it was last because it was basically God. In Genesect’s case, it was last because it was more powerful than the other mythical Pokemon in Unova. Or at least that’s what I think.

          • Yes, this is a good story! So I started out this Pokemon life as a guest on Pokemonepisode.org, under the name ShinyHaxorus. I chose that name because I liked the simple black shiny color. After about a month I decided to make an account but I saw that ShinyHaxorus was already taken. So, in my finding of a new representative, I realized that Xatu (which also had an X involved in the name) matched my social structure: quiet, considerate, and relatively intelligent. I also respected the fact that it’s shiny was not noticeably different from other Xatu’s yet unique, just like myself 🙂 THAT’S A LOTTA WORDS.

          • That is a really good story, I didn’t realize Xatu was that important to you. And you sound like a amazing person 🙂 thanks for sharing that story with me! My fav pokemon is charizard ( hold up before you called me a genwunner! XD) pokemon red was my first game and charizard was my first ever pokemon! I had lot’s of good times with it! ( even tho the girls picked on me cause they said charizard was a boy pokemon :s) Spamming fire spins all the way through the Elite 4 XD it’s a very special pokemon to me :S

          • Well, you can’t beat Mega Charizard X AND Y 😀 And I’m glad you liked my story. Some people find my choice strange, but they never really asked why.

          • lol! every pokemon deserves some love. So, besides being uber smart do you play any sports or do any other extra circulars with your school?

          • I play Ultimate Frisbee on Fridays which is something, I guess XD I’m a very fast sprinter but I am not really willing to commit to 3 hour practices every day. There’s a reason why I’m here so often 😛 And I will do some volunteering in the summer!

    • Technically X/Y also broke the 100 base stat all per gen. But Diancie is 600 BST. The just moved 50 from hp and speed and put it into def and spdef.

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  31. well I gtg guys ;( I got a calcus test tomorrow and I can’t do any studying staying on here ( Unless I get the i.q. of a alakazam for one day :p) I’ve enjoyed another fabulous day at pokejungle and hopefully many more. byeeee 😀

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  32. A friend and I will study soon. Got to go for realizes realizes! See you tomorrow! Our Macroeconmics Midterm is tomorrow. *makes sobbing emoticon, but doesn’t know how to do it*

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  33. Was soaring through the air only to be strucked with a Thousand Arrows now I’m knocked down, turned around just to be smacked with a Thousand Waves with nowhere to flee, Mind is in a trance now I want to Hold Hands 😉 XD

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  34. Slashmolder did the RAM dumps, not Kaphotics.

    Kaphotics credits Slashmolder in all of his posts… why are you now attributing it to him?

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  35. IIf anyone sees carbinkle, tell him that for the multi tourney, my friend wants to jjoin, and so I cant battle with him. Sorry, I hope he understands.

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  36. Ok, for Yanmega.
    If I were to use it, is this a good set?

    Yanmega
    Speed Boost
    Impish (252 Defense, 252 Speed, 6 Defense. Just for stalling purposes.) I could also go Bold.
    I NEED AN ITEM IDEA.
    -Swords Dance
    -Baton Pass
    -Protect
    -X Scissor (or something else)

    Scolipede
    Speed Boost
    Adamant (252 Attack, 252 Speed, 6 HP)
    King’s Rock
    -Steamroller
    -Poison Jab
    -Protect
    -Swords Dance

    FEEDBACK PLEASE!

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  37. Everyon’e talking about Zygarde and how it might have two new forms/megas because of the two new ground type moves, and I’m just sitting here wondering if Third Mascot Legendaries Trend will ever change. I mean. It’s not fun to assume that the mysterious third mascot really is the third mascot with alternate forms. I want to be surprised for once. IDK. Does there always have to be a third mascot? Why can’t there be two extra ones?

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  38. Well, I love ground types even more now haha. Though the only two I really care for are Zygarde and Groudon.

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  39. Anybody on?
    I am so psyched for these new moves
    If these are going to be true I just might have to Soft Reset for a Competitive Zygarde in ZX and ZY

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  40. crawdaunt is one of the best knock off users after a dragon dance that thing will OHKO many things and if not aqua jet to finish the job

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  41. I really like Zygarde, but I wish it’s typing was more unique. It just doesn’t look like a dragon type to me. I’m not sure what I would’ve typed it, but not dragon. Maybe Ground and Fairy? Ground and Poison? Ground and bug? Idk.

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      • That would’ve been nice. Since it heals the environment and stuff or whatever, it’s poison typing maybe would’ve helped it draw pollution from the earth or something (idk, I’m making stuff up as I go)

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  42. I just realized that Oblivion Wing may not have been the Dark Type DAMAGING Signature move we wanted, but it is the first FLYING Type DAMAGING Signature move!

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  43. I’ve come up with my own Dark Type Damaging Signature move:

    Final Glance
    Type: Dark
    Category: Special
    Description: A Dark Type OHKO Move

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  44. The clown sheep moves out of my town in New Leaf. I rejoice.
    Then a purple frog with a 70’s haircut moves in its place.
    Really?

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  45. During the Gen V Extension, I was hoping for the Perfect Plot Twist to become a reality. Professor Sycamore’s being the Professor, Team Flare Leader, and Champion (maybe even Father) was what I wished for. Maybe next time.

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  46. Oh, and also, shouldn’t Thousand Waves be Special, like a counter part to Thousand Arrows? Also, can Thousand Arrows hit Flying types, then?

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  47. I still can’t get over how terrible the shinies for Volcanion and Hoopa are. THEORY TIME! That Hoopa has Splash, and shiny Magikarp is yellow, so THAT HOOPA IS A MAGIKARP!

    Pheonix Wright: The testimony contradicts the evidence!

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  48. Since the DP Series, every series in the anime has had at least one Shiny Pokémon in a Movie.

    DP: Shiny Legendary Beasts (Zoroark: The Master of Illusions)
    BW: Genesect (Extremespeed Genesect and the Legend Awakened)

    I wonder if XY will continue this trend.

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    • Thanks for the heads up, I fixed it. We did search for a source however, but it was hard and confusing to point to the correct one 😉

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  49. Don’t mean to be a grammar nazi and will probably get shot for this buhhhh
    ‘May have be’
    Moving away from the fact that I have mild OCD, I’m excited if Zygarde does get these two moves, I’m sure it’ll bring him up in the online leagues (especially if this is hinting at a war of some kind, and means we get to go into the past in the news games and Zygarde gets a mega)

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    • It adds to my theory that the statue in the elite four building was zygarde true form, adding to that the elite four castle is obviously the castle for the ancient king AZ. When the war broke out, it obviously causes disruption in the Eco system. Zygarde was unleashed and it’s true power, the two moves was used to end it in a instance. Zygarde would have been referred as a god therefore his statue was built inside The elite four building.
      Also his origin form seems to resemble more of a cocoon than a body, the line down its head symbolizes where it emerges and it’s spikes some how look like something that’s keeping him locked in, maybe limiters to his power or to stop it from actually leaking out

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  50. do these moves hit zygarde’s partners? or only enemies? knowing that would be crucial to deciding whether I use them over land’s wrath.

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  51. I think these sound awesome, whether they’re real or not. Hold Hands may sound like another Splash, but it’s adorable. I’d waste a turn just to have my Pokes hold hands in battle. <3

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