FAKE: Could the Gen VIII Starters Have Leaked?!

IMPORTANT UPDATE: These have now been CONFIRMED FAKE as the artist has been found! They came out in a Facebook post. It’s unfortunate that these weren’t real… but let’s just hope that Game Freak manages to do even better!

These were posted anonymously, there are some concerns about the Japanese, but mostly pedantic discussion of hiragana vs katakana use. Most likely fake.

These do not come with names, but it appears as though we have a Grass-type Lemur, a Fire-type Rabbit and a Water-type Platypus!

Guess we’ll have to wait for more details to see if these are real or not! What are your initial impressions?!

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2,331 thoughts on “FAKE: Could the Gen VIII Starters Have Leaked?!”

  1. Wow, this was certainly something to wake up to! These leaks are in the same territory as the starter evolution leaks of last year. I’m absolutely on Team Real for the moment.

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  2. I like them, but seeing as we’ve already had some fakes using the confidential style leak these are likely fake as well

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  3. hmmmm idk.. i would love for these to be real.. they are all SUPER cute..

    but for some reason that rabbit doesn’t sit well with me… like i love her.. sooo much.. but it seems like it might be fake.. only time will tell though.

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  4. Yeah if these are somehow real I am so quickly picking the water. Fire second and grass last(love it too just not as much as other two) it’s so upsetting knowing these will most likely be fake since they easily the best rumored starters we have seen this gen

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  5. I don’t have much hope for this to be true, but we’ll see.

    All I know for sure is that if either of these rumors gain lots of traction before supporting evidence for either comes out, then Verlisify is gonna have another rant about not wanting people to cover potential fakes.

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  6. These reference sheets are similar to the leaked final evolutions of Alola’s starters and have both the correct art style and quality of design. Easily the most believable “leaks” so far. I feel the same way about these as I did when the Alolan starter evolutions leaked. Still could be fake, but they’re remarkably good for fakes. I for one belive them to be real at this point. Kudos to the creator if they’ve tricked me.

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  7. I feel like it’s way too early for a real leak since none of the 7th generation starter Pokémon have evolved yet in the series. Where’s that leaked Incineroar that belongs to Ash? These supposed 8th generation starters look great, but they’re a bit too cute and I feel like that can be looked at as a bit of a red flag. How could anyone even get such clear-ass pictures of these art reference sketches anyway? Unless they Save Image As’d these pics from a computer, these pictures must be fake because they’re too good to be true.

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  8. The typings I want them to become:
    Grass/Normal
    Fire/Fairy
    Water/Poison (I guess)
    The typings I predict they’ll become:
    Grass/Psychic
    Fire/Steel
    Water/Poison

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  9. here we go again…. can we please stay off 4chan? I used to love these sort of posts for speculation but now it’s getting crazy. Not everything is real and “leaked”

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  10. I also want to say how funny I find it that we think these could be legit because the Japanese is right. lol that doesn’t really say much. This artist knows Japanese while the previous leaks didn’t, it could be as simple as that

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  11. Between these and the last ‘leaks’ what do you prefer for

    The Grass starter (Lemur vs Whatever that was)
    The Fire starter (Rabbit vs Goat)
    The Water starter (Platypus vs Coral)

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  12. Chespin – Tough
    Fennekin – Feminine
    Froakie – Cool

    Rowlet – Cool
    Litten – Tough
    Popplio – Feminine

    Lemur – Feminine
    Rabbit – Cool
    Platypus – Tough

    How would you feel

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  13. I don’t believe them because they are in the same style of last fake news. It feels like they are just showcasing their fan ideas and those ideas are cool actually! Maybe, they thought that they should pay more attention to Japanese but there are still concerns lol

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  14. Oh boy, I already feel like no matter what we’ll get, starters will start with proper animals with animal body and they will evolve into humanoid characters with animal features. That is the recent trend. Please change this trend. Please let them stay animals. Let’s go back to basics like in Gen 2. Please Gamefreak. I beg. Make them animals. Not humans. Make Pokemon great again.

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  15. I have an urge to make a Flying Fakemon but I cannot decide on a direction

    Some kinda flying propeller/gyro thing
    A Skydra (three headed serpent with weather powers
    Or a creature that is the exact opposite of a sky faring creature like a winged whale but not so cliche

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  16. I love these designs so much. ): I really want a fire rabbit starter! I know they’re fake but damn am I hoping for something similar for gen 8.

    Varecarine (Varecia + nectarine)
    Leporignite (Leporidae + ignite)
    Perry

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  17. What about some kinda mix of a sea turtle and a bird?
    Like four long broad flippers that can fly with a flat shell, and its turtle beak are more avian

    But they are Psychic/Flying

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  18. I reeeeaaaally hope these are real! That platypus is so cute I am going to die!!
    So is the grass one a sloth or a lemur? Either way I love both animals and he seems to have a chill personality like Froakie.
    The bunny is amazing! I usually like fire starters the least, but I like it almost as much as the platypus.

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    • if they are real that fire starter better turn out good cuz water starter is buying me over rn. it will be diamond all over again when i chose piplup

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    • If they’re fake the artist deserves a lot of credit because he/she is clearly talented. I still think they are real at this point, the bit where the platypus slaps Ash in the face makes it even more convincing to me.

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    • I can definitely agree with you there. Like the last set, I felt off about it (mainly with the water starter compared to the other two) so I didn’t put investment into them (still liked that fire starter tho)
      With these ones, however, they just feel natural and right. Dunno why, but they just do. Actually, I and a couple people I know were picking favs and arguing over them as if they are real. I guess that’s a testament to the sheets and how they look.
      If they are fake, well congrats to the artist who pulled it off, they definitely have a future.
      I’m still not gonna say they are 100% real tho, cause there is still that possibility on the table.
      Also, fire bunny master race. Fight me.
      Lemur is cool too (except the hair) and the platypus is ok, imo.

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    • They are super cute. The day they’ll be proven fake will be a sad day. However the water starter artwork should be the sitting one, cause the other two are taken from the “front” so I suppose the water should be too.

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  19. Read the username. These and every other rumour so far is fake and no we are not getting anything about the Switch game next week.

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    • 4th gen and 7th gen starters were like that for me.
      This one not as much, but maybe I might appreciate it more in-game, if they are real.

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  20. So turns out Lickitung is one of them low call rates so no Golden Gutted Lickitung (I wanted to name it after a sushi roll due to Sushi-go-round from Pokémon stadium ((my absolute favorite mini game))

    Well I guess my next target will be a Bonsly

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  21. Now I’m on a nostalgia thiking train about Pokemon Stadium minigames.
    What’s everyone[‘s favorite? (From both stadiums)
    I also really like the Rattata one too.

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  22. The water starter has me thinking
    How would little kids and Pokémon work? Some early pokemon, even starters, can be relatively harmful to people

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  23. ok this might be unpopular opinion but I think these starters don’t look bad however, I think it’s sad that we have moved towards more cartoony pokemon in general

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  24. What your favourite region says about you:

    Kanto: You’re nostalgic, and will go wherever you want
    Johto: You want to explore for the aesthetic… As soon as you finish your hours of grinding
    Hoenn: You have poor taste
    Sinnoh: <3
    Unova: You care a lot about narrative in Pokemon
    Kalos: You're just here for the cute monsters
    Alola: You like movies

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  25. @Ultron6:disqus you want to do the Stakataka trade now? I could do with Solgaleo data if you have it. If not dw I have one on another game.

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  26. You know, these starters do fit the pattern for the starters that every pokemon game thus far has followed. as with every other pokemon game, the fire type starter is one of the chinese zodiac signs. The water type is also the same as every other water type in that it’s based on an animal that is both aquatic and walks on land. The grass starter can also fit in this rythm, though it’s a bit loose. Every grass starter has been based on some pre-historic animals. Ancient lemurs were common enough that this could be that same format, though I haven’t looked too deeply. Also, the format that these starters are being shown are oddly familiar to the ones seen during the sun and moon hype that actually revealed the final evolutions of the three starter pokemon. Not saying that confirms it, but it does make it rather compelling does it not?

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      • Eh, maybe. But it’s the final evolutions that do usually resemble prehistoric animals. And besides, if you look over it, the water starters all do walk on land at some point of their lifespan.

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          • Your right. My bad. I meant that they do walk, crawl, or even indeed drag themselves across a beach. But that has always been the case.

  27. I’m not convinced (and really no one here should be), but I do have my suspicions, as these do seem to be very Game Freak-esque designs. If they’re fake, which is likely to me, then I’m impressed that the artist was able to clearly match the style.

    Regardless, I’ll play along. If these are real, I feel like grass is the one that got screwed this time, which is okay IMO because it’s had a good few recent gens. Not a fan though, so the rotation continues. Torch bunny is adorable, and honestly I’m leaning between that the Platypus. Both of which I think have a possibility of becoming fan favorites. If they’re real, I’d be satisfied. I like 2/3 of the first stages, which is more than Alola had for me (bet you can’t guess which :P).

    On the other hand, the piece of the puzzle that makes me doubt this the most is the “drawing” of Ash on the Platypus’ sheet. Although it aligns with the current style the anime is taking, replacing his head with a shape suggests a bit of laziness on behalf of the artist. Though only time will tell, maybe we’ll hear soon.

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    • I’m definitely on the middle too, but it gains points for me for having actual Japanese on it that makes sense. But we’ll definitely see!

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    • Loved this cartoon as a kid tbh.

      Trumpelshitskin is his own terrible terrible thing that has no real comparison that does justice to what he is.

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      • They’re the ones that get the most sympathy, that’s for sure…
        I just wish they could somehow explained what happened to them?
        They’re oddly likable when they’re not being overly cocky.

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  28. so this may be a odd question….anyone fans of Hero 108? it randomly found its way into my suggested videos and i kinda rediscovered my love for it

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  29. So random question but what were the other starters that popped up again? I remember the bear coral and horse but not the second group. Does anyone have a picture of both groups?

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  30. I will say these actually look really great and I can want them to be real.
    I would definitely choose the fire one it looks really cute, and definitely looks like it’d evolve to something cool. Hopefully not another fire/ fighting/ fighting type bunny.
    The water one also looks very cool. It definitely has to turn that water poison type platypus.
    The grass one looks terrible though, but that kinda makes it more believable. GF usually throws one curveball into the mix.
    HOWEVER, with the amount of pretty good leaks in the pokemon realm, there’s no way I believe these.

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  31. I dunno about y’all but the 4Chan thread is calling it fake, knowing their track record shit’s probably real.

    Anyone remember Gen 5?

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  32. I know this is a dumb reason to think they’re fake, but I don’t think they initial poses for the starters would have one of them in an action pose. All previous starters have them in more or less static poses and only in 3rd versions and remakes do they get art that has them doing some kind of action. Just saying……

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  33. if i had to pick……….maybe the Lemur….hopefully it ends up tough, that’s the only driving force behind my decisions when it comes to starters
    Charizard
    Feraligatr
    Swampert
    Torterra/Infernape
    Emboar <3
    Chesnaught
    Incineroar

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  34. aw wow, i love all three of them. the last supposed leak was alright, but this time i’m actually hoping it’s legit.

    also hoping they grow up to look just as good as they are now, particularly the lemur

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        • Calm down lol we don’t know for sure yet if It’s real or not and won’t know until someone comes out admitting to faking them or otherwise. Better to not take a stance on it until we know for sure.

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          • I feel like I’m going crazy. Are we never going to freaking learn? Every single leak ever we have seen the past couple months has had some reason it COULD be real and they NEVER ARE.

          • I know that but there will be leaks on something besides the starters and we have something that we know is real

          • See, I don’t share the opinion that the previous leaks were as believable. Some of them have interesting ideas or thoughts, but nothing that pointed to as much legitimacy as these do.

          • WHAT IS LEGIT ABOUT THESE???

            The sugimori art style isn’t hard to emulate. We see people do it all the time. The single thing this one has over everything else is that the Japanese is correct like… so??

            That’s what sank the other set of starters. I’m sure the faker figured out that you need proper grammar

          • THOSE WERE DIFFRENT! THEY HAD PROBLEMS THAT WERE OVERLOOKED. UGHHH THEY NEED TO EITHER REVEAL THE STARTERS OR THE ARTIST NEEDS TO COME OUT BECAUSE THIS HATE TOWARDS OTHERS IS RIDICULOUS!!

            Sorry if I offended anyone

          • It’s not the language and it’s not something that is easily singled out. It’s a combination of the art style, the level of quality that went in to the designs themselves, the style of reference poses, the use of uncolored background pieces. It’s an overall collection of elements that feels exactly like previous, proven reference sheets. It’s a level of time and effort that fakers simply don’t put in to their fakes.

          • Japanese is a hard language, just saying.
            It’s not like ‘oh right gotta have proper grammar’ because Japanese as a language is different from English.
            So that’s why it has points for me, for having Japanese that makes sense and not something from like google translate or something

          • I see and understand your point, but there’s also nothing saying that whoever drew these needed to write the Japanese descriptions. They could have gotten help from a friend or something, or a friend of a friend, who speaks fluent Japanese.

          • It’s not that big of a deal lol you need to calm down and realize it really isn’t that big of a deal. If people want to believe they are possibly real let them. No use getting pissed off over it. I am a wait and see person because honestly you never know. Anything can happen

          • No that’s fuckin stupid. It’s so frustrating to watch everyone be convinced a leak is real for literally no reason.

            Every week there is some new thing everyone just believes.

            Before you bring up the gen 7 ones, they wouldn’t let the same thing happen again and those were part of a larger leak that gave them credibility

            These have nothing but everyone just eats it up

          • Whatever star just get over it. Everyone has a different opinion and just because you don’t agree with it doesn’t make it fuckin stupid as you put it. Let other people think what they want and live your own life

          • So you’d rather just ignore the fact that this clearly has zero credibility and continue believing something that is obviously not true.

            Sure ok I mean people are pretty good at doing that already

          • And You can live your life that way lol at same time you can’t get mad at people living their life the way they want to live it. It just doesn’t work that way.

          • Whatever star. I am not saying anything else because I am convinced I would be better off banging my head against a brick wall at this point lol you have a nice night/day whatever time it is where you live

          • What facts are there for being fake tho? You just say it’s fake. I’d like to think deeper on it but you are not providing anything.

          • “They wouldn’t let the same thing happen again” but didn’t they allow the USUM demos be data mined just like the SM and ORAS (I believe) ones? I wouldn’t be surprised if these were leaked to build hype for the upcoming games

          • Of course a trailer would build hype but TBH rumors make waiting for a trailer easier. Its your own (not yours specifically) issue if you believe that the rumors are to be true and then become disappointed when they aren’t. For all we know Nintendo might make a Direct soon discussing the upcoming Pokémon game and they might reveal the starters. Possible leaks always lead to a trailer. Look at KH3 and how there were images of the Monsters Inc. world before it was even confirmed and they were written off as fake images because of how blurry and out of focus it looked. Lord and behold there’s a Monsters Inc world. Its just a matter of waiting for confirmation and until then these pokemon may be real or they may not be

          • What’s so special about them? They were released Literally right after a leaker described them.. and they outline for real leaks is already online. Y go alone believing some bs anyone can create nowadays. Besides.. Pokesirena says she believes they are fake herself.. they didn’t even use the proper wording between the pics according to her

          • Like I already said to star I believe in waiting until we have more info. That said thanks for actually talking to me in a calm manner you get an upvote for that

  35. Every time I come here and see those pictures again, I remain convinced that they’re real. My brain just can’t come to any other conclusion for some reason. I’m totally open to someone coming out and claiming them for publicity or whatever, but I feel the fact it hasn’t happened yet speaks volumes.

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          • Yes, because you’re just screaming fake at this point without actually saying why or how. That’s why people think it’s negativity.

          • When? I’ve never seen it personally, so I’d like to see.
            And it’s not sudden, I’ve been asking for your points the whole day I’eve been here.
            If you’re gonna claim something, you need proof. Both for real or fake.
            That’s just who I am. I need facts to back statements.

          • Fine even though I have repeated it over and over I’ll say it again

            – The last big leaks were starter concept art leaks that came out MONTHS before even the mid evos. They would NOT let that happen again especially when the images are such high quality.
            – Everyone wants to make fake leaks like those now. There are so many concept art leaks. They’re just like Coro Coro scans from back in the day but easier to make because you don’t have to make it look like the worst designed, most eye bleeding magazine in existence. Just draw them in a few poses and add some Japanese text.

            – There is no credible leaker backing this up with more information like the Chinese leaker with SuMo.

            – The only evidence supporting this is real is the Japanese text. While yes it’s a difficult language, that’s an extremely low bar isn’t it?

            – The sugimori style isn’t that hard to emulate. Take two seconds to look online.

            I say why the sudden need for evidence because everyone just accepts that these are real without anything to really back it up. But then I’m hateful because I’m the only one not just agreeing with everyone because I want it to be real.

            And yeah like I would love these. The bunny would be top 3 starters for sure but you gotta look at facts.

          • Thank you, I haven’t gotten anything like this since I was here, maybe you said most of this earlier before i got here, but I missed it so I was honestly confused.
            And I’ve always been for evidence regardless of other people. I don’t accept it willy-nilly, heck I;m STILL NEUTRAL about it because it’s an isolated thing and the art style being so easy to copy. And personally, my opinions are not for anyone else, they are for me.
            I gave it points for Japanese, but you’re right, friends can help out or they are fluent, but some part of me feels that’s off. I don’t think it’s a low bar at all because that’s an impressive feat for an artist to have but whatever.
            You’re free to say your opinion, I just think the way you went about it rubbed people the wrong way. That’s probably why it was seen as negative. No hate on you just the way you went about it.

          • I don’t really see it as hate. But in terms of pokemon “leaks” I kinda think everything should be considered fake *until* credible evidence comes along. The Alolan final starters had credible evidence because they featured Mallow, who then was revealed later. There’s nothing to go off of with these so I think a lot of people are getting their hopes up for no reason other than “good Japanese, good art.”

            Hate to say it, but I’m sure there are native-to-Japan pokemon fans who are good artists

          • I think considering everything fake until it is officially revealed just dissuades speculative discussion, which is what Pokejungle posts these rumors for. And you say that Mallow’s presence was credible evidence, but not everyone has the same lines of credibility as you. I remember people screaming “Fake! Everyone who believes them is stupid!” all the way up to their official reveal when they suddenly about-faced and always knew they had been real (not on here, mind you, I wasn’t involved with PJ discussions then).

            It’s perfectly acceptable to believe they’re fake, but insulting other people just because they don’t share your opinion is not. (Not talking about you here, Ultron, simply past experience)

          • See, different lines of credibility. I don’t believe the games being announced makes a leak of information any more credible that it would be before the announcement.

          • Well people who thought they were fake even when mallow was revealed are simply dumb, to be quite frank lol.

            I’m not trying to stifle discussion at all. I love rumors and pokemon “leaks,” but I don’t think they should be taken too seriously at this point. We don’t even have titles or a released date (or zeraora) so it’s just unlikely to me something like this would leak in such high quality. But we’ll see, I’m not dismissing them as impossible*, but I’m not saying they’re any more credible than most of the things we see

    • Meh doesn’t change anything. Just means who ever made them knows how to write in Japanese. Doesn’t mean they’re real

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  36. I think everything is getting lost in translation
    There’s no issue with thinking these are real or fake.
    The issue is that people are jumping on the ship that it’s one or the other way too fast. It’s fine to be hyped and hope that these “leaks” are real, but don’t count on it. Be ready to accept either outcome.

    I know not everyone is doing it but the fact that some people are firmly believing that these leaks are 100% real or fake is what the cause of this “hate”.

    We’re all a family here, lets not let Weed King Julien, a lit easter bunny , and perry the platypus tear us apart, kay?

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    • Agreed 100 percent. I am staying on the fence right now. If these end up real I will be so excited! If not oh well crap happens but if the artists would definitely deserves mayjor props for them. And them names though 😂

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    • Pokesirena even thinks they are fake because of… Facts. Y should we get out hopes up whenever some artist has too much time on their hands? So no. It’s perfectly fine to pick sides. Can’t be doing this all day everyday

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  37. Ok but… Y did no one tell me Boruto is So Good! 😍
    He kind of reminds me of… me.. when I was in school. Except being well known Doesn’t equal popular 😅
    I only felt some of the action sequences were a little silly at the start.. too unrealistic.. even for an anime

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  38. If there’s one thing about this concept art that is credible to me, it’s the berry at the end of the lemur’s tail. That just seems like a “Gamefreak” touch to a pokemon.

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    • Idk I guess Majora just used magic to give it a creepy ass face to scare Link/other people. At the end of the game the face fades so it’s not a normal thing

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  39. Alright, folks. It’s been fun but I’m going to bed. Not like Earthen “went to bed,” but like, legitimately going to lay down in bed in order to fall asleep.

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  40. So what would be their names?

    *Leamur (leaf+lemur)
    *Blabbit (blaze+rabbit), blhare (blaze+hare), rablaze (rabbit+blaze), Fihare (fire+hare)
    *Poitypus (poison+platypus), Venypus (venom+platypus)

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  41. I could actually see Platapal as a new mascot for the series, especially considering the inconspicuous Pikachu stripes on its back. It could be advertised as the true return of Pikablu. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that this one is the only one to show interaction with Ash. And let me just say, I would buy Platapal merchandise up the WAZOO.

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  42. If I wake up tomorrow and see someone claim these as being theirs with definitive proof I will enter a devastating nine-stage depression bout that permeates through every aspect of my life.

    Platapal is my friend.

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  43. I’d like to play devil’s advocate for a moment because I do agree that it’s not a great idea to get overhyped about stuff like this…
    Notice how these leaks had “Tiger 3, Owl 3, Sea Lion 3” or something like that on their art. Why wouldn’t these ones have Monkey 1, Rabbit 1, and Platypus 1? Maybe because that would make it too obvious it was adapted from those…who knows. However I do feel like “””they””” should have included it. In actuality, I don’t know the reasoning for this at all and there are versions of this art that don’t have the tentative names.
    http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1519185231904.jpg
    http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1519185567064.jpg

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  44. First off, I think these all scream Australian region (I mean platypus, I mean come-on!)

    Here are my predictions:

    Aesthetic Trends:
    Masculine/Physical/Attacker: Chesnaught (grass) and Incineroar (fire) —> Gen 8: water starter
    Feminine/Special Attacker : Delphox (fire) and Primarina (water) —> Gen 8: grass starter
    Androgynous/Mixed Attacker: Greninja (water) and Decidueye (grass) —> Gen 8: fire starter

    GRASS
    Plossom —> Leemixir —> Manacopia
    Ringtail possum – Feminine Design – evolves to grass/psychic – traditional healer
    It will evolve into an indigenous healer with long free-flowing foliage locks abundant with fruit accents that resembles a elaborate headdress. The fluff around the wrists indicates it will have a robe coat with flared sleeves. It uses it’s ringed tail like a staff.

    FIRE
    Bunfire —> Tailblazer –> Crisperado
    Rabbit – Androgynous Design – evolves to fire/steel – western pioneer
    Rabbits are invasive species that are threatening Australian ecology, this pokemon represents colonizers or frontiersman. Its evolution will resemble an outback cowboy-gunslinger with a fire-bullet move. The fur around its neck is a bandanna and the plush tail resembles a knapsack which is stores its loot and coals for warm fires on its long journies.

    WATER
    Platapin –> Ubillity —> Versenary
    Platypus – Masculine Design – evolves into water/fighting – naval captain

    The pokemon is based on a diversity theme, since platypus have traits shared by amphibians, mammals, and birds. The evolution will possess switch blades in its appendages like swiss-army knives. It will resemble a naval fighter who uses mixed-martial arts.

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  45. I literally just saw these on instagram today, I’m pretty sure they were made by an artist on there, similar to the banana slug pokemon a couple months back, but I digress, I’ll have to see if I can find them again

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  46. Grass Starter: The fruit coming from its tail, striped tail, and round ears poking out of its little grass bob is so cute! 9/10

    Fire Starter: The bonfire tail is too adorable to be real!!! Probably my favorite little detail of any starter (if real). And that plushy bandanna scarf and blue eyes 🙂 10/10

    Water Starter: Jesus, that thing is adorable! It has the best proportions of the starters. 9/10

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    • The difference being these have accurate Japanese and a “Pokemon feel” to their design.

      Not saying they’re without a doubt real, because of course there’s a chance they aren’t, but these are believable for more reasons than “they have the confidential stamp on them”.

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    • may I just point out that fake leaks technically aren’t leaks at all. they’re fan art that people try to pass off as leaks. it really bothers me when people refer to fake leaks, rumored leaks and, real leaks as simply “leaks” it gets really confusing when you aren’t always sure which they mean.

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  47. I was thinking
    Grass/Normal
    Fire/Electric because that Black fur looks like it’ll eventually turn into storm clouds and I’d end up being a super fast PokePok

    And then the platypus would be Water/Poison its entire evolution

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  49. Well now I don’t really care of these are real or not because this article has brought the Jungle back together

    Percy, Gikie, Fae, Hipster and Defensive all made guest appearences for the first time in months and that is what truly makes me happy, all we need is Green and Poekoko and it truly would remind of when I first came here

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    • I’m still thoroughly convinced, as well. There are just too many elements correct for this to be something someone made up as a fake “leak.”

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  50. I actually like these more than the other “leaked” starters. All three of them look great and would maybe provide some seriously good end evolutions. Kind of shocking that it was the first stages and not the final ones that were leaked though

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    • I have a sneaking suspicion, and just a suspicion mind you, that a few of the most recent “leaks” that turned out to be real were actually released on purpose to generate hype rather than being leaked by someone who wasn’t supposed to have access to the info. Obviously, it’s a great way to get people talking and work up excitment leading up to an official announcement. It is a little interesting that we get “leaks” that only include the starters, or whatever. I personally feel that if someone was going to truly leak, that is reveal information that wasn’t intended to be public yet, we’d get dumps of info about a bunch of random things, whatever they could grab at the time, you know? Or, like you said, we’d get final evolutions even though the first evolutions hadn’t been revealed yet. *shrug* Just a thought, though.

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      • Very rarely are the first stages leaked… usually when they used to introduce the new region GF would have them as a silhouettes in CoroCoro and the middle/final stages would be leaked. Like with gen 5 the middles were the last to be revealed but they were leaked I think 2 weeks or so prior to being confirmed and obviously more recently with gen 7 the end evolutions were leaked months beforehand. Even if they are fake why shoot down the idea that they may possibly be real? It gives us something to talk about when theres nothing to talk about.

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  51. They are fake. From an art perspective the grass type especially gives it away… his standard pose is very awkward along with some feature inconsistencies. Unfortunately a lot of people won’t notice

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  52. I’m pretty sure it’s now been close to 24 hours and no one has claimed responsibility for these drawings. I think that’s a good sign personally. However there are still plenty of reasons to play the fake card, so let’s just cross our fingers.

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  53. Hey guys, long time reader, first time poster… Idk they seem pretty real, my only concern is that the bunny/rabbit looks a bit too much like victini. Other than that I’m in love with the water platypus. Grass type… meh

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  54. I r e a l l y hope they’re real! After seeing how thought through these designs are, they seem to me like real GF designs. The Bear and Coral fakes were great, but these kinda seem even better.

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  55. Has no one considered that maybe the person that made these just learned from the last couple of “leaks” in order to make these as believable as possible? We literally got almost believable concept art juts like this less than a month ago. the only difference was the Japanese was iffy in those. This time it’s been fixed. and they’re pretty believable. If we didn’t get the last “leaked” starters then sure I may be less suspicious, but what are the odds that we’d actually get starters leaked like this almost immediately after getting fake ones done in the same kind of leak style?

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      • Not saying they aren’t thought out. I actually really like them a lot. That said it seems too unlikely that we’d coincidentally get fake leaks in the same style as the real ones ended up being. It think people are just jumping on the bandwagon that is “confidential art leaks” just because they’re the most believable right now. At one point we had believable CoroCoro scans, but that didn’t make them all real.

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    • You’re definitely right to be skeptical. They’re really not any more or less believable than any other art we see. Remember that Gladion art for USUM that showed him in aether gear? That sh!t looked spot on and yet it was fake too

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  56. So, here’s an interesting exercise and I’m curious to see people’s opinions. Pull up these three images side by side in any order: Decidueye’s reference sheet, the lemur’s sheet, and the grass bear that was rumored a week or so ago. Look at all three of them side-by-side and tell me which one looks most out of place.

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    • Your comments for the most part for these leaks consist of you stating your opinion as if they’re facts. Lol have some fun with these leaks, Star! 🙂

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      • I don’t wanna have fun with what is obviously bullshit. Show me some leaks that actually have some legitimacy then we can have fun with it.

        God I’m so fucking sick of being treated like I’m a bitch for not just playing along with everyone and saying they could be real when they are so obviously fake

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        • You don’t have to play along but you also don’t have to attack every single person who posts about these. Idk Star, I’ve seen a real tone shift since x and y with you and a lot of your comments are bitter! I just want to make sure everyone gets along!

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          • Everyone fucking attacks me for my opinions so I don’t see an issue with it. Because it’s all ok as long as the person you’re attacking has an unpopular opinion apparently.

            Everyone wants to just ignore facts and reason and believe this because they can’t handle a few months without a Pokémon game. These have literally nothing to back them up but whatever fine let’s just fool ourselves into believing every single “leak” that was made by a good artist

          • “…and saying they could be real when they are so obviously fake” Star that doesn’t sound like sharing your opinion

          • You have no more evidence proving they are false than anyone else saying they are real. As people have said, having a faked concept art (the bear, horse, coral) doesn’t mean these are fake, just like the gen 7 eco concept art doesn’t prove these are real.

          • “Logic” As youve our it doesn’t constitute evidence. The only evidence we will have either way is if gamefreak reveals they are real, or the artist steps forward.

            You cannot argue any further on this because there really is no other way of proving they’re fake.

            You mentioned they look professional (well so did the gen 7 evos and the bear horse coral) so we’re stuck in the middle there with no definitive proof either way.

            You mention it’s too early, but many said that about gen 7 evos too.

            We seriously have no idea. Only opinions for or against. No facts.

          • See that’s your problem your never wrong in your head and when others just don’t care about the facts and want to enjoy them you think they are stupid for wanting to enjoy game speculation

          • ‘game speculation’. It was the three starters with no other info. And she never said you can’t speculate, it’s just that half the site were convinced they were real for no good reason. I liked em, I excepted they were real, but I accept they aren’t. Lol.

          • ‘I can accept they are wrong and move on’

            Except you’ve still got this weird hate boner for star so I’m not exactly convinced you can move on from anything. Ffs if you think she’s such a bitch, block her and move on.

          • I have said I no longer dislike star, but her demeanor comes off aggressive sometimes… or the fact she called half the people here idiots just because they don’t agree with her (She didn’t say it, but she said the guy who did wasn’t wrong)

          • I’ll say it again, this article is supposed to be about fun speculation. Leaning too hard either way by saying these are ABSOLUTELY fake or real is not the way to go. But leaning either way a little is just fine.

          • Who said anything about fooling ourselves? Some people are pointing out reasons they could be fake or real, I see both sides being posted about, and no one…. NO ONE else is attacking people saying “they are fools, things are obviously fake, etc” like you are. And in the end, who really cares if I think they’re real or not. How does that hurt you? If it’s annoying to you, maybe pokejungle, a website that has fun by posting about rumors, isn’t for you.

          • Dude I love rumors but at a certain point you gotta step back and realize that this is just stupid. These fakes are well drawn and stuff but seriously. There are countless talented artists out there.

            Remember how real looking the banana mon was?

            It’s not hard to fake these at all. And right now we have no further evidence that these are real other than “oh they look official”

            Like.. Yeah. That’s the point of a fake. They gotta look official. But apparently no one wants to learn from all the other concept art leaks and… fucking logic to see that these aren’t any more credible than all the others that have been coming out.

            We aren’t king to have meaningful leaks or rumors until the game is revealed. Then you can talk to me about rumors because then there is something to compare information with

          • Again, I’ll ask though, how does speculation hurt you in any way? Why does this make your blood boil the way it does?

            Like I said, you e had this attitude about people enjoying thigs about gen 7 that you hated.

            All I ask is that you calm down because this article is intended to be a fun one with pure speculation for and against because nobody has evidence either way.

          • Because no one here has the critical thinking skills to ignore fakes and move on. It’s a waste of time. They just get hung up on the pens that look slightly better than others.

            It’s so incredibly frustrating to see people give this the time of day.

          • I mean when they’re proven to be fake, which is what I’m choosing to believe, the people who thought they were real will move on. It’s not hurting me in any way; they’re the ones setting their hopes up just to get dashed. Ill sit and laugh evily

          • Right. I had hopes that the bear was real, and when it wasn’t I said basically in my head “good job artist. You did a really good job both in design and concept.” And I moved on with no skin off my back.

          • Then for the love, just stay off these articles and wait to PJ post something else.

            You’re giving this the time of day and you are easing energy that could be spent on countless other things that are beneficial to you, your community, this planet, etc, but instead you’ve decided to spend hours tearing other people down by calling them stupid, illogical, fools, naive, lacking criticism thinking, etc.

            Enough is enough, Star.

          • This is exactly what I’m talking about. If speculation like this isn’t fun for you. Stay off this article and wait til a new one is posted. Spend your time and energy doing other things. Draw, volunteer, cook, clean, walk outside, watch tv, organize your space, message an old friend and catch up, do SOMETHING besides spewing bitter insults at those who are enjoying these rumors.

          • WHY AM I THE ONE WASTING MY TIME BUT NOT THE PEOPLE FREAKING OUT ABOUT AN OBVIOUSLY FAKE LEAK??

            Maybe I should fucking leave because no one wants to listen to me anyways. Because how dare someone actually think critically about what is presented to them.

            I went though the same trash with USUM. While everyone was hyped over a cashgrab, I got shiit on for seeing it was a cashgrab.

            Look how that turned out

          • They are doing what this article wants them to do, speculate. youre not leaving either way, you’re definitely saying with only “evidence” that these are fake (apparently they’ve been proven fake now, but this doesn’t change my argument because it’s happened on every article).

            You can have your opinion on rumors, on USUM, on everything. You cannot or should not, however, get mad when people call you out for getting so unbelievably heated and nasty towards others who are just here to have a good time.

            They’re not doing anything wrong, but you are. You are going against what this article is intended and you are using your time to belittle others. Tell me, where’s the joy in that? Better yet, tell me how it’s a good use of your time?

  57. BINGO!
    I really like looking at possible origins for starter leaks (or their evo), at least until they’re proven fake. I just got something that would fit the Designs of the Grass Lemur and the patterns we have been seeing in Starters the last 2 gens.
    So according to the patterns the Grass starter in Gen 8 should become dark type and feminine. The pattern could be broken of course, but, for noe, let’s assume it won’t be. I found some Lemur facts that could back up us getting a Grass/Dark feminine starter in Gen 8.
    1. Many stories from Madagascar blame a lot of bad things that happen on Lemurs, making them look like Grim bringers of bad luck. These stories make Villagers hunt and trap Lemurs, or pay hunters to kill the animals. All of that could give the starter a Dark type, either through an evil personality or a lust for revenge.
    2. Ida the Lemur is the only found fossil of the prehistoric, extinct Darwinius genus. Ida was a female, she kinda became known in the Animal community for a while. That isn’t that strong of an argument for a Feminine Lemur, but it is something. The genus is a Lemur ancestor, we also should remember that all Grass starters have been based on Extinct animals. Some studies said that Darwinius could be “the missing link”, but many other scientist called that an exaggurated hoax (that could potentially add a Fraud theme to the starter, adding to the dark type).
    3. The design looks kinda feminine. That isn’t that big of an argument, but it’s something. Popplio not so much, but Fennekin’s design is obviously suposed to be more feminine. So far I have no idea how the “hides berries in its tail” aspect could be developed in the evo, but I think with what I have right now, I might already be onto something.

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  58. Do you think all ghost Pokémon have the ability to alter their density and phase through things and such? The Ghastly line is gas based, but I’m sure there are other phantom Pokémon who are capable of dissolving like they do

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        • Interesting, I’m not sure about those. I wouldn’t think so since they’re ghost type due to being about a legend. There are legends, spirits, and possessed items and those seem to be the main three ways to classify ghost types.

          Banette, golurk, trevenant, honedge, driffloon, are all possessed objects in a way.

          Decidueye, froslass, shedinja are based more on concepts or legends.

          Shuppet, ghastly, duskull, pumpkaboo, misdreavus, all seem to just be spirits that could totally pass through things.

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          • Do you think Ghost pokemon are actually ghosts in the sense that they’re a spirit of a dead being reborn (like the gengar and clefable theory)? Or do you think it’s just a name given to the type because of its qualities?

            I would say at least some ghost pokemon are dead beings reborn, like the possessed object ones.

          • Exactly, I think it depends on the class. The spirit one? Sure. The legend or concept one? No, kinda in the same way that some fairy types are clasified as such because of their connection to irl lore.

            And the possessed body class is probably a case by case basis because some, like trevenant are actually dead children, but others are not.

    • That’s a thought I’ve bounced around a few times, myself. I’d like to think so, but it does seem like pokemon like Decidueye might not necessarily have that capability.

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    • Not everything
      Ghosts that are not bound to a physical vessel probably cannot phase through stuff

      Like physical ghosts like Golett, Cofagrigus, Dhelmise, Gourgiest, Trevanant, Aegislash, Pallossand

      But things like Mismagus, Froslass, Dusknoir, Gengar and Marshadow could

      But some grey areas include Chandelure, Drifblim, Sableye, Decidueye (like semi solid bodies)

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  59. The art is really good, but these are probably fake. I am waiting for a coro-coro scan or a trailer. If they are real that is when I will be excited. That Platypus is great. The Lemur has an interesting design. The rabbit fits the whole traditional Zodiac theme. I can’t complain about them at all. I am just going to remain both skeptical and optimistic.

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  60. Well I mean I don’t want this to go to waste. (this was written before I found out)

    NOW ONTO THE RABBIT (I’m 90% sure this sounds cringy as hell)
    Looking at possible origins for the Fire Bunny, I really think it could be the first Fire/Fairy mon! Here is some proof I found!
    1. In Asia there’s a pretty popular story about a Rabbit, a Fox and a Monkey (which already have fire starters based on them). In the story an old man beggs the animals for food. The fox and the monkey gather fish and fruit for him, and the Rabbit that doesn’t know how to gather food jumps into a fire so the man can eat it. It turns out the Man was actually the god Śakra, he saved the rabbit and drew a portrait of it on the moon. The legends say the image on the moon is still in smoke from the fire the rabbit threw itself into. The story is obviously related to Fire, but also to the Moon, which is related to the fairy type, as we see through some Fairy moves (tho Tbf Lunala isn’t a fairy type) and the Rabbits good will can be linked to Fairy too. The design of the potential rabbit starter has a smoke theme, just like the rabbit’s portrait according to the story.
    2. As many of you know, there’s a mythical creature called Jackalope. Jackalopes are popular mythical creatures, which could be easily linked to fairy type. There was also a fire in the Rincon Mountains called the “Jackalope Fire”

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  61. Well, if he’s being honest and not attention grabbing, then kudos to him. Also, he spent waaaaaay too much time on these for “just a laugh.” 😉

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  62. RIP PLATIPAL….
    Hello everyone.
    After a lot of laughter, I think the game can end.
    In short, I am the author of the leaks that have made such a sensation lately. I’ve been working there for quite some time, and I got a helping hand from a Japanese friend of mine for the writings that have been so much discussed.

    It was a lot of fun, initially I did not think it would have had so much relevance, then I saw it explode on YouTube, Twitter, fan art, meme, even Rule34 and I could not believe it.
    I apologize to those who believed and hoped that they were true, and I congratulate those who have not been convinced and pointed out in a more or less edgy.
    But in general, the fact that it has had this great reach makes me realize that maybe I managed to create something really convincing.
    Peace and love, and if you want you can also start throwing on me all the insults I deserve

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  63. I mean I really liked these, but the games haven’t even been announced yet. RIP Rabbit and Platypus, Lemur can just die in memories like it should be.

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  64. I’m kinda sad, but on the other hand I still got the new Doctor Who logo to be hyped about!

    (and don’t tell me not to get invested, it’s worth it for the hype)

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  65. ….SIGH….. The after affects of these leaks are tearing people apart even more……..

    They were fake but convincing, we get it

    Lets just all get along……………..

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    • It’s not the leaks tearing people apart, it’s the attitude that one person’s opinion is objectively correct and anyone who disagrees is an idiot. Unfortunately, that will continue to exist, rumors or no.

      Keep bringing on the rumors Pokejungle. They are a ton of fun to discuss. 🙂

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        • In hindsight. This time. And even so, it is not an excuse to insult people or tell them to stop enjoying something just because you don’t.

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          • Yep. Just like I thought

            Even though I was absolutely right and backed myself up with evidence and facts, I’m still being treated like I hate fun.

            Cool fucking cool

          • Then tell me what evidence you had. Again. Because you cant. Because you cannot have evidence for an opinion.

          • Im sick of it.

            I want myself and everyone else to have a fun time speculating without Star having to get on her high horse and insult everyone. It’s trash.

          • Just let her insult and sit on her high horse. You don’t know her from a hole in the wall to get this worked up over something so small and she doesn’t have to get this irate over something that wont have an on-going effect on her. Just let it be. They’re fake mons…. Congrats star you’re right. Let it go

          • Eh, more than having fun ‘speculating’ there was more people setting themselves up for disappointment by claiming they’re real (like seriously this belief that they were real kept growing immensely for no reason).

            And she’s not insulting anyone? She was kinda aggressive sometimes but never insulting

          • Calling people fools, naive, stupid, lacking critical thinking, etc. That’s insults. And it doesnt you if someone sets themselves up for dissapointment. So just let them!

          • I never called anyone stupid or fools so idk where you got that but yes. If you believe any slightly well done leak that you see then you are absolutely naive

            This is from a girl who used to believe any slightly well done leak that she saw

          • I will copy paste what I said last night which was a compilation of everything I have BEEN saying

            “Fine even though I have repeated it over and over I’ll say it again
            – The last big leaks were starter concept art leaks that came out MONTHS before even the mid evos. They would NOT let that happen again especially when the images are such high quality.
            – Everyone wants to make fake leaks like those now. There are so many concept art leaks. They’re just like Coro Coro scans from back in the day but easier to make because you don’t have to make it look like the worst designed, most eye bleeding magazine in existence. Just draw them in a few poses and add some Japanese text.
            – There is no credible leaker backing this up with more information like the Chinese leaker with SuMo.
            – The only evidence supporting this is real is the Japanese text. While yes it’s a difficult language, that’s an extremely low bar isn’t it?
            – The sugimori style isn’t that hard to emulate. Take two seconds to look online.
            I say why the sudden need for evidence because everyone just accepts that these are real without anything to really back it up. But then I’m hateful because I’m the only one not just agreeing with everyone because I want it to be real.
            And yeah like I would love these. The bunny would be top 3 starters for sure but you gotta look at facts.”

          • Every single piece of evidence i see here is an opinion.

            “Too early, too common, not credible enough, too low of a bar, too easy to emulate.” All opinion, no facts.

          • Okay Im done. I hope you feel accomplished. You made people feel like crap (and you will continue to do so like you have done for months). Good job. I’ll go make the world a better place instead.

          • That’s all I’m good for apparently. Making people feel bad. Because no one wants to fucking think.

            I was the one who kept going on about how USUM wasn’t adding enough to fix Sun and Moon and I was right about that too, but that didn’t make people feel good so f*ck me then.

            Because it doesn’t matter what’s true, all that matters is that people get caught up in hype culture without caring about what they’re actually consuming. So when someone like me calls then out every goes in on them.

            F*ck this site honestly. I’m so sick of being treated like this. Maybe I should just censor myself and act like Pokémon is flawless because that’s how I acted when people here liked me. When I was like twelve or something.

          • If you want to feel like you can argue ANYTHING, stop using opinions and claiming you can back them up with “Evidence.” It’s not possible.

          • Alright, Star. This is my last attempt to illustrate my point. The fact that you didn’t believe the rumors isn’t the problem. You are perfectly within your rights to be as skeptical as you want. But look at the differences here:

            One way of expressing your side of the discussion – “I simply can’t bring myself to believe these rumors because of x, y, and z. #NotMyStarters. 😀 ”

            Here’s another way – “THESE ARE NOT REAL AND YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS FOR BELIEVING THEM BECAUSE I’M OBVIOUSLY RIGHT.”

            The first way is rational, civil discussion. The second way implies that your disbelief somehow makes you better than people who lean the other way and is insulting, not just in tone or by assumtion, but by literally using insulting words like stupid, idiot, naive. Do you see the difference?

          • So don’t let it personally bother you if someone doesn’t agree with you after you post your opinion the first way. They are just as within their rights to believe as you are within your rights to disbelieve. It is not an insult if someone doesn’t agree with your rationale.

          • How can I not let it personally bother me when people constantly get angry at me for not agreeing with their shitty opinions.

            Since USUM was revealed I’ve been treated like I just hate fun and I don’t want people to enjoy things because apparently that’s easier to believe

          • See, right there: “their shitty opinions.” That’s unneccessarily insulting. If people are getting angry at you, ignore them. Otherwise, you turn in to the person everyone else ignores for getting angry at them.

  66. Why is there controversy over fake leaks/possible rumors on Pokejungle of all places?

    I remember things being chill when all those Black and White rumors were shooting out the wazoo. What’s different now?

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    • I kind of wonder if there’s an actual zodiac theme going on or there’s just a string of coincidences.

      I guess we’ll find out eventually.

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      • Cyndaquil and fennekin don’t even fit. Charmander only does if you consider charizard, which isn’t fair considering all the other fire starters that actually fit the pattern do it from the first stage.

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        • I guess Charmander fits as a first stage because it’s based on the salamander, which is a close relative to the dragon?

          Meh. Personally, I’m hoping to for a fire seal, just through everyone off ala Chespin.

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          • I think it’s a dumb pattern. Why would they be basing JUST the fire line on the zodiac? I simply don’t understand what their reasoning would be/ is if true

          • Though, two of the fire starters are based on Journey to the West (Chinese) characters, meaning GF is aware of the Zodiac meme on some level.

          • I understand, it’s just strange to deligate a pattern to one starter type and not to the others.

            And that doesn’t really matter anyway because a time will come, if they are doing the pattern, where they will have covered all the zodiac animals.

          • Grass types have all been extinct animals and Water-types have all been amphibious animals/animals capable of movement on land and in water. Yes, the Zodiac will run out at some point, but 12 Gens is longer than 4.

      • I feel the pattern fits well enough that it’s not unreasonable to imagine this is the theme for determining Fire starters. Some might quibble with Delphox and Typhlosion standing in for dog and mouse respectively, but foxes are canids and I’ve heard that the Chinese character or characters for rodents applies also to weasels and other mustelids. I guess if the next Fire starter is either a snake, a sheep/ram, a rabbit, a horse, or an ox/bison, it will add more fuel to the… well, you know.

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  67. fake as hell but i wouldn’t mind choosing honestly any of them. they all look great…..shit, i wish this was real but it isn’t sadly.

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  68. Sorry to cause such a commotion y’all! We need to get better about this. We are on a site that posts leaks, rumors, and more. This is about the only site I know of that does that. Why are we as a community so bad at talking about them!?

    If people want pure facts, go to Serebii forums. Otherwise, let’s get along and have fun!

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    • Speculation is fun when you refrain from over-investing in the legitimacy of your opinions. Personally I love all the theory crafting that goes in to imagining what the next generation will bring and leaks like the above are impressive if only for the degree of work that goes into them. I think some people just crave disappointment and build themselves up for it. Be zen friends…

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  69. Oh, looks like alot of comments weren’t showing up for me again. After exiting and coming back I now see the arguments. I think they should be put to rest now. They seem to stem from everyones’ need to be right, whichever side they are on. If we all did as I believe we should and remain cautious about all rumours instead of automatically fully investing in them being real or outright fake and just calmly discussed them as designs and possibilities we’d all have an easier and more pleasant time. Attacking others, especially on a personal level, for their opinions either way is unnecessary.

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    • Once again you put it perfectly. I will always remain on the fence about these kind of thing. Some people may think it’s stupid that I do that but I made the mistake of calling something 100 percent fake twice already. The gen 5 starter evos and the gen 7 starter evos as well. I refuse to that again. If a possible leak comes and it’s real awesome. If not whatever it happens sometimes no big deal

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      • I think Monkeyfuzz always puts it better than how others can put it. He doesn’t take a side, will always point out that no one side is truly right and point out the details of each sides rights and wrongs

        I will remain stagnant on whether or not things are real or not till GF tells us and confirms stuff

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        • Pretty good way to look at it. Like I said just remain on fence for most part because for all we know a leak may be real. Heck I am still shocked about the starter leaks last generation. Hopefully we get a reveal soon. I will take silhouettes of the starters at this point lol that said I am still expecting a rabbit. A platypus would be really nice too but not holding my breath on that one 👀

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          • It’s not about you Star. Learn that others had an opinion and you had one, and yours turned up to be fact in the

            What’s done is done and people should get over it as should you. If you don’t get over it Star others won’t either and then all it does is cause more fights in the future and further toxify this great place

  70. Man not sure if I would go with water or fire with this set. I do really like platypus and think it would make a great poison water type but I also have a pet rabbit in real life so I’d feel obligated to go with the rabbit starter. lol

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  71. Oh what’s that? The so good totally legit starters were revealed to be fake? *gasp* Who would have guessed. Except anybody with a brain. Read the username. Also stop hating on Star she just wasn’t an idiot like the rest of you deal with it.

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  72. Okay going to be that guy and say it. For future possible leaks this goes for BOTH sides. Remain on the fence. Sure it’s fine to hope they are real but don’t get your hopes up too high. And don’t get angry at people for thinking they are real either. It’s their opinion let them have it not a big deal. I really do not want this site to get turned into a war zone. I love coming here to discuss rumors with fellow fans of a series that means so much to me. And I love it that I can come here to get my mind clear if I need to. Just try to get along everyone. Hope I worded this good. Anyways hope everyone is having a great day today

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          • star just freaking drop it. I am trying to be as nice as I possibly can with you but you are not making it easy. You are entitled to think the way you want and I can think the way I want to as well. Just deal with it okay? Have a great day/night whatever time it is where you live

        • Just want to clarify that I am not saying everyone should do what I said it’s just a suggestion. If you want to assume stuff is fake automatically go ahead that’s your business. At the same time don’t get mad at people who live differently than you do. I’m not trying to attack you or anything but don’t come spouting out at me because I won’t take it. Sorry if I came across as harsh earlier.

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        • Would’ve helped if they didn’t say they were making a Switch game WAAAAAAAY before it was 1) ready to be revealed 2) ready to be released.

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      • Ok star seriously. I understand your unhappiness with pokemon rn. We have had multiple discussions here. You know how I felt towards sun and moon and USUM and alola all together. But now you’re just being rude. It seems like you’re being extremely disrespectful and taking your anger towards pokemon out on others. Yesterday you said I was being defensive for no reason and when I asked you how, you didn’t respond. I don’t want to sound like a jerk but lately you’ve been acting very negatively about how others choose to look at things. It’s a pokemon site, people want to talk about pokemon, so just drop it

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        • Oh I’m being disrespectful? Because it seems every time I voice my opinion I’m treated like I’m a bitch. No one here can fucking handle my disagreeing with them and its infuriating

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          • I don’t use disqus as much as I used to 3-4 years ago but from what I’ve seem the past few days it’s the way you voice your opinions. I’m the most unpopular opinion person here, you can ask a lot of people here and on discord, yet I don’t express my opinions so negatively. There’s nothing wrong with disagreeing.

          • Sadly, Star, you are the architect of your own misery. You incite people by insulting them, then claim victim status when they react negatively. If you are legitimately upset, and not just being a troll, my advice is be careful about using words like stupid, idiot, and naive in your responses to people and to stop trying to get people to agree with you. They don’t have to and you have no right to demand that they do.

  73. Fun fact: An Artist showed Masuda artwork of the final stages of the Alolan starters months before the announcement. He just laughed it off

    What if GF leaked the starter final evos artwork themselves to generate hype?

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    • It would appear so. I guess there’s a possibility he’s claiming responsibility just to generate interest in his commisions, but he’ll be getting a strongly worded letter from GF’s legal department if that’s the case. 😉

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  74. Seriously, to those that are like “told you so” you can cut it now. I didn’t think they were real either but it didn’t bother me that people were talking about them. And to those who are upset they are fake, don’t worry just shows that we don’t know what gen 8 has in store for us yet

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    • The site Is in chaos right now. I was pretty much on the fence about them. Did I want them to be real? Yes I really did. Loved all three especially the platypus. It sucks that they aren’t but that’s life it happens in this fandom. Heck maybe the starters gamefreak have planned will be better for all we know? Just have to wait and see

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  75. I wanted to comment on the rumor of today. Emily Rogers talking about super smash bros later this year.

    1. A Smash Bros title will be announced and released for Switch later this year.
    2. They added brand new content and re-worked some of the existing Wii U/3DS coBrent

    This makes me very excited

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  76. Didn’t really like the Grass and Fire one but the platypus was nicely designed!
    Don’t mind it that they’re fake though, I think GF could do better 🙂

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  77. I think I’m going to take a brief hiatus from here. I feel like I just made everything worse and now people are leaving. I just don’t want to make anything worse then it already is…

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    • Dude let me put this in perspective

      You are in no way a problem here, actually when you came you actually did something I didn’t think would happen. Shared many people’s opinions and unified us.

      I’m sick and tired of nice newcomers scared or upset leaving because some one or something caused drama or problems, many come, but most leave within a week. I hope you aren’t taking a long hiatus or your moving to discord at least because of the many who have left. Your one I wouldn’t ever want to leave

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      • IDK I just hope this rolls over soon because It’s not fun to see all the nice people here at eachotheres throats. All over a platypus, bunny and a lemur…. It’s just not fun… I might be gone untill this conflict goes away.

        Also we need more people like you and monkey, who understand both points and can agree with everyone

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        • Valoroo, i have enjoyed discussing this rumor with you. Please, don’t let someone else ruin your enjoyment. Stick around, continue to have civil discussions and simply don’t respond if someone is being insulting. It’s not worth it. Just continue enjoying the conversation with those who are also enjoying it. 🙂

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  78. Wow what’s happening here? I haven’t been here in a year or so, but this is not the place I left some time ago. Why aren’t people treating each other nicely? Isn’t this a community, meaning you all belong to the same group, namely Pokémon fans? I believe that means we should talk about Pokémon and voice our opinions, without remembering to respect each other.

    I hope people won’t leave and talk it out. That’s the only thing that helps. Leaving this place won’t fix anything.

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      • Star here’s how to fix this:

        -Shut up about being right, we get it and let’s move on to something else now
        -Learn others don’t care as much about facts and want to be less aware, you can post them, but don’t repeatedly do it to try and make people dislike you for it
        -Remember its all a game and reason to get so upset over it (both sides need this one)

        Now if these things happen people won’t have reason to strife with you and we can get back to the way things were, together not seperate.

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        • Nah ya know what I think I should go.

          “Learn others don’t care as much about facts and want to be less aware” is the most ridiculous and embarrassing sentence I have ever read and if that’s the attitude we are goona have here then I want no part of it.

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          • Sorry for this, but the way you worded it reminds me of Moddo from Doctor Strange when he said “I’ll follow this path no longer” and makes me think you’ll go around taking us out one by one to enact revenge

    • You also are right

      People have been like this since USUM, the jungles been at war for a long while and it keeps diving worse and worse into it as people are growing grudges, losing site of opinions and such and all in all people have forgotten, it’s just a game and people should be allowed to voice their opinions without dealing with repercussions from it.

      Leaving only dwindles the people we have here and saddens everyone so your right it fixes nothing

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  79. Can I say… Told you so… Now?? 😬
    Lol.
    But I’ve looked through my teams.. Turns out
    Most common types I use are
    Fairy – Togetic
    Flying – always have at least 1 more flying type
    Fire – Not trio, because USUM first time only fire on team
    Water/ Grass- …
    Dark – surprised me.. only 2 gens I didn’t use one

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  80. if people developed a “fake until proven real” mentality rather than a “real until fake” one this place would be a lot better off.

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    • If people let other people have fun with their discussions, no matter which side they were discussing, instead of trying to dictate each other’s behavior, the internet in general would be better off.

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  81. It just occurred to me that the grass lemur and fire rabbit both have a light tan body. GF would never do that. No two Starter Pokémon of the same region have had the same body colour.

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  82. Not surprised at all, but still a little sad! Props to the artist, these were gorgeous. I’m still hoping GF gives us a fire rabbit this gen, though! I’ve been wanting it for years now lol

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  83. Well going to relax eat pizza and watch the captain underpants movie lol huge part of my childhood. Will be back later tonight everyone!

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  84. I personally feel no one has yet to create a fakemon that truly captures that sugimori feel.. But let’s say if Popplio had released On It’s Own as a leak
    ..

    That would have REEEALLY sent us all into chaos.
    #BreakTheInternet #BreakTheJungle

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  85. Not saying it’s real. But looking at this guys previous work from not even a month ago, I find it VERY hard to believe he is the person that drew it, personally.

    It’s also really convenient he has a nice “Commission” picture pinned immediately after his “confession”.

    Then there’s the time lapse video of him “drawing it” where he makes absolutely no mistakes and has the finished product at the end.

    Not saying they’re real, nothing is “real” to me until GF themselves say it, I’m just saying how convenient everything is.

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  86. I’m actually still so sad about these leaks being fake. I thought the sadness would pass more quickly but it’s really not. One thing that is certain is, the standards for leaks have just gone WAY up. That means perhaps we’ll see less of this in the future…doubtful though.

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  87. Ok so if it is true that smash is coming with new content I want:

    Pichu back
    Tiz Arrior
    Isaac from Golden Sun
    Celica cuz we all know they love FE

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  88. Not sure what’s wrong, I keep thinking everybody has left but then I leave and come back and again comments just weren’t showing up for me.
    Anyway I just watched the Archeops episode of BW and was reminded of its’ dumb ability that I still don’t understand why they gave it. I would have taken lower stats overall over it.

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    • I would too I mean when it drops due to defeatist it actually becomes inferior as a Physical attacker at only 50%

      And it’s too frail with its type leaving it open to many Pokémon that can out speed and hit hard enough to faint it or get it lower than 50%

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  89. game freak/ Pokemon need to give us a sign about their official Pokemon starts. seriouly if i see one more leak i wont look at it, and if i do i will called it fake

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    • Give it time. If the games are coming this year it should happen pretty soon. Won’t shock me if Zeraora is revealed randomly soon like marshadow was then we may get titles not long after. Then probably the starters will be officially revealed along with the legends in May. Unless they pull an x and y reveal on us. It’s hard to say really

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  90. Huh, another week another set of fake leaks I guess. Though I liked the other two, at least grass has a chance now! Regardless, it was fun to speculate.

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  91. So Ash is getting his Torracat today (the 22nd technically) huh? Will be interesting to see how its personality changes. Will it stay the way it is as a Litten or change a bit?

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  92. Well it was a fun ride with the starters. I always enjoy it when we have possible leaks. Although this is the one time I think I am genuinely upset about them being fake. Really loved this group. Hopefully gamefreak does something just as good if not better! Please gamefreak give us a platypus starter one day! It has so much potential!

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      • Hopefully you are right! That said if the supposed Chinese zodiac theory continues I fully expect the rabbit to happen this gen. If not that snake would be interesting. All I know is I can’t wait to see the actual starters!

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  93. I mean I liked the designs and everything but I’m tired of ppl coming out with rumors and yes I know some ppl like rumors but at the same time the majority get their hopes up and get mad that GF doesn’t meet the standard of the fakemons and I’m like that’s why nobody get their hopes up till we see actual proof.
    I wish ppl can just say that they’re just making fakemons and show them off but that’s just my opinion

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    • People are so naive because they’re unbearably desperate for news that they convince themselves that anything well drawn is real.

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      • Yeah I know about ppl being desperate not just for news but for the games and I’m sorry to say this but I hope that Game Freak takes a break and we don’t get the new game till next year cause Pokemon is turning into CoD to be honest SM and UltraSM felt to rush and weren’t as great as they should of been if they had more time

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          • Yeah it’s all about the money but I’m just hoping they care more about the game and how good it should be since it’s on a new counsel and blow us out of the water but at the same time I’m not getting my hopes so high lol

          • Yeah I know what you mean I like XY for how it looked and some of the Pokemon designs but the story and game play were not great and I think the lack of Pokemon in the last 2 gens has to do that they’re rushing the games and not having a lot of time putting more Pokemon in the games

          • I’m with you on this I would enjoy it a lot I just hope someone in GF actually goes through these websites and see what fans want lol and not just do it for the money

        • It’s not that we need a new game necessarily, it’s that Gamefreak failed on every level with USUM. People were done with it like less than a month after release. It had no lasting appeal to hold us over into the Switch game.

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          • To me USUM didn’t come close to the 3rd entries to the other gens and they weren’t bad games but I just felt something was missing like trainers having more Pokemon and other things and I thought they would of made the Alola region a bit bigger somehow

  94. I like these rumors and fake leaks, it’s probably the most fun part about the hype season (though I guess we are in the pre-season!)

    I am disappointed that I won’t get the rabbit, but nowhere near as bad as it would have been if Primarina was fake!!! Thank Arceus!!!

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    • Same here, man. I look forward to the start of rumor season before every release. It’s a fun exercise to analyze them and pick which ones look most real and then wait in barely constrained impatience until they’re revealed as real or fake! It’s one of my favorite things about the prerelease hype.

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  95. What if they pull a Pokémon yellow in gen 8? One starter and then the rest are given to you during the game (I know, childish thoughts but I wanna contribute my .02¢)

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  96. I highly praise the artist, these fakemons were the best I’ve seen. Really did their homework to make it close to legit as possible

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    • It makes me feel terrified about the future. I swear to you, someday you’ll see fully rendered Pokemon battles with 3D models, new moves, the whole nine yards, with ZERO legitimacy. Dang supercomputers on my lawn…

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  97. Hey uh, this may become a big deal sometime soon. There’s a Pokemon trademark awaiting examination, apparently. Here’s the link but I can’t see it myself for some reason, so here’s what it looks like.
    https://www3.j-platpat.inpit.go.jp/cgi-bin/ET/TM_DETAIL_E.cgi?ITEM01=106&KEY01=pokemon&OPT01=01&ITEM02=702&KEY02=&OPT02=01&ITEM03=402&KEY03=&OPT03=01&ITEM04=705&KEY04=&OPT04=01&STIME=151927747147763433095796&HITCNT=26&HITCNT3=26&S_FLAG=00&TERMOPT=02&PAGE=01&LISTNO=26&DISP=1
    http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1519278228139.png

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    • Actually never mind, I think it may just be for the name “Pokemon”. You should probably disregard this post, because I have zero hope left at this point.

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    • Ground: Earthquake to generate tremors, Drill Run to charge into stuff, Dig to burrow, Bone Rush to generate a weapon

      Fighting: Hammer Arm for heavy damage, Bulk Up to get swole, Drain Punch to heal myself, Counter to retaliate

      Rock: Rock Wrecker/Rock Blast to deal damage at a range, Rollout to curl into a boulder, Head Smash self explanatory, I can’t decide if I want Stealth Rock or Stone edge for a trap or a Earthen spike attack

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      • I’m probably not gonna do 4 attacks for each but here it goes:

        Water: Aqua Jet for being speedy on land and sea, Dive because maybe I could breathe underwater, Hydro Pump because it’s strong and cool, and Bubble Beam for when I’m bored.

        Flying: Cause Fly. Duh. Hurricane for when I’m feeling evil, Whirlwind to push pesky people away, and Acrobatics because that’d be fun.

        The last one I’m torn between Grass and Psychic. Grass for Synthesis, becoming a plant, and causing status. But Psychic would be cool because of teleporation and telekinesis.

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        • Uhhh synthesis wouldn’t make you a plant it’s just using photosynthesis to regain energy

          I would’ve said Vine Whip or Bullet Seed

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          • Like a green glow would gleam out of your palm and a long vine manifests outward allowing you extended reach or to lash things (but it has a set limit maybe like….twenty feet and they’re not super strong so you can’t lift a car or expect them to not snap off

  98. Omfg I am insanely bored at work, I normally enjoy finishing my work early but it’s a slow day and I’m done with everything for a while and I’m desperate for something to do (normally I’d hide in the bathroom and dick around here but this place is dead)

    Just wanna go home: and rotate from Wow, Rocket League and Splatoon 2 all while SRing for that dang Celebi

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  99. (Me when a “leak” appears):
    Alright cool, these Pokémon seem nicely done. Probably fake, so I’ll take some salt.

    (Me when the “leak” is confirmed fake a day later):
    DAMMIT WHY DID I GET TOO ATTACHED TO THEM

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  100. Let me ask you guys this. How mad would you be if the Switch game didn’t come out until 2019? Seems like a lot of people are very convinced it’s coming this year despite us almost being in March and no Zeraora. Would anyone actually be angry if the game came out next year rather than this? I’m still banking on it being released q1 of 2019, but I’ve had that stance for a little while now

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      • I mean are the baseless leaks their fault tho? they never promised to us that it’d come out this year so I’m not sure why people are getting antsy as if they did. I think we may see something at e3 this year, but even that may be a long shot if the game doesn’t launch in early 2019

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    • I wouldn’t be mad about it at all. I was patient with the release of SM after ORAS for 2 years, and I don’t mind waiting for GF to polish the Switch game up.

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  101. AHHHHH KURUSRU PLEASE HELP I HAVE THE WRONG EMAIL ON DISCORD AND NOW I DON’T HAVE ACCESS TO ANY OF THE SERVERS! HELLLLLPPP!

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  102. I’m in a fantasy mood again and I need my fix…

    Human
    Dwarf
    Night Elf
    Gnome
    Draenei
    Worgen

    Orc
    Tauren
    Forsaken
    Troll
    Blood Elf
    Goblin

    Pick one

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  103. I think the anime makes me like Torracat a little more than I do now from the games. I’ve never been a huge fan of its offical art and the game makes it a tiny bit better, but it’s never been my fav. In the anime it looks cool tho. Same with Inciniroar. Cool to see Decidueye! For the record here’s where I rank the gen 7 starter stages. Best being top “worst being bottom. I’ll separate them into their stages tho

    1st stage:
    Litten
    Rowlet
    Popplio

    2nd stage:
    Brionne
    Torracat
    Dartrix

    3rd stage:
    Decidueye
    Inciniroar
    Primarina

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  104. A Fire/Fairy Rabbit starter final evo based on the Asian myth of the Moon Rabbit and Jackalopes. Is Talit a good name for it? (Tale (it’s based on a story) + Lit (the Rabbit in the myth jumped into a fire+Moon gives light))

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  105. Please post a new article, Higher Powers, it’s so depressing to open this page and see those beautiful starters over and over again. PLATAPALLLLLL

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  106. Well my friend tells me a leaker who’s been spot on with everything has confirmed Smash Switch is coming

    My friend didn’t say a reveal or release date, but take this info and do with it what you will

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  107. Unpopular Opinion: I don’t think Smash is as great as people think it is. It’s fun sure, but is it the best fighting game of all time? Not sure about that……

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  108. Wait so it’s confirmed that we are getting news next week? People have been saying that there is news… Pokemon day is on the 27th

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  109. The Shape of Water is a good movie. Kinda gross in plaices, but I enjoyed it. The creature is so well done, I now want a Pokemon based on it.

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        • Yeah. Visually, I thought it was gorgeous and it had gorgeous music. The villain was well done for sure. Loved how he just broke when his masculinity was challenged. And the scene where she signed “f*ck you” to him was golden. I really liked Octavia Spencer and Richard Jenkins. Sally Hawkins did great too.

          But the story..while it was good, I thought it was kind of expected. Too beauty and beast for me. And the bestiality was too much. I honestly thought the movie would’ve been better if they just developed a strong and loving platonic relationship, but I’m ace so maybe I’m biased.

          So it had really strong parts, but the love aspect of it just kind of didn’t work for me.

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          • Yeah it was predictable but I still enjoyed it. The sexual stuff in general I didn’t feel necessary and I found it odd that Elisas’ friends just accept she’s having sex with the creature. Also I was left wondering what possible life they could now have, I mean he’ll be fine since he’s made for that life but what’s she gonna do?

  110. Well poop. It was of course expected, but I really liked the Platypus. But I’m glad the bunny isn’t real, it looks more like a regional rodent than a starter.

    Well these fake starters were better than the last fake starters, maybe the real starters will be better than these ones.

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    • I mean was the BW anime even good from the start? It was pretty trash right form the get go. At least SM knows what it is and will do whatever the hell it dam well wants

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        • Right, but what you said was that it turned into trash only after the initial premise was done. When in fact most of it was trash right from the start.

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  111. another evening and still no Celebi….i feel like i’m doing something wrong, 3 weeks and still nothing WHAT WILL IT TAKE

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        • Then it’s truly unfair, I work my butt off for her and leaves high and dry? I get nothing and I’m supposed to deal with it? That is a load of injustice that will not go away until I am paid off

          How would you feel if you worked hard to do something for someone else, sinking in a large amount of time and effort and they just drop it?

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          • I mean its not like you have it and shes refusing to give you the wimpod, like fr just give up rn, and go SR for a wimpod or something

          • I have one in reserve I was saving for myself if it never happened but my point is extremely valid

            If you truly believe that I didn’t earn anything for my efforts then I shouldn’t ever try doing anything for anyone for the rest of my days

          • And no I don’t want to SR for a Wimpod I’m extremely fed up with it, but then again why does it freakin matter, she even said that she didn’t try because she’d assumed I’d give up just

            Just another instance of me working hard for somebody that barely appreciates it or holds up their end of the bargain (and make me feel like it’s my fault for trying)

          • Wait she didn’t even try? That’s pretty low and then to just call it off? You don’t deserve that treatment

            You could probably get Monkeyfuzz to trade you if you want it (I’m sure he’d be happy to do, but you need to ask him) and he most likely would appreciate a Shiny Celebi as well

  112. FUS RO DEER!
    I AM DEERLINGBORN, I SLAY THE DRAGONS OF THE POKEMON WORLD WITH MY VOICE!!!
    I AM SO SERIOUS DEERIOUS RIGHT NOW, I CAN FEEL MY RATHER WEIGHTY PLOTCHEEKS CLENCH TOGETHER IN BITTER APPROVAL! YUP!

    That’s my impression of a braver me who truly wishes this place was more peaceful and happy…

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  113. Ok, i read back my reply to star that i posted yesterday and i saw below that she left so I would just like to address some things. First of all, I am not here to make an enemy out of anyone, but somehow I feel like this always ends up being the case every time I decide to come back and post here on the main site. The reason I posted a reply to her was because I felt like the day before she was targeting me to the point where I was defensive for some reason and got no explanation. I feel like I went all out in that post to her and I regret it. I should’ve just kept my opinion to myself. I offended her posting by saying that people should talk about the fake pokemon however they want but in doing so I was not allowing her to post her opinion and what she thinks. And I am truly sorry for this. I think I have been the person who always expresses unpopular opinion as many of you know considering I expressed a big disapproval of sun and moon and USUM as well as those who really want gen 4 remakes to the point where they spam it online. I have expressed this a lot here and the truth is, I was in the same boat as star. I think a lot of things we shared a common opinion on. Once again, I am not here to make enemies and I’m not here to shut down anything anyone else has to say. I am sorry for my negativity. I can say that I will probably not show up here anymore. I might lurk but I will not be posting anymore. For those who don’t know, I haven’t posted in the discord server in over a month for reasons both irl and the fact that I feel like I have had enough of the nonsense. I plan soon to leave the server officially because I have not posted there in some time and I refuse to continue to. Because I am leaving there, I feel like I should just leave here as well. Pokemon isn’t exactly on my mind right now and with my hopes for the year, it’s definitely not at the top of what I want or care for. So again, I apologize to you guys if anything I have said offended or came off as shutting you down. I am sorry and am truly sorry to star. I did not mean to make her leave if I am the reason she did so, that was not my intention and not at all what I wanted. So yeah, maybe in the future I will come back to discuss real information whenever we get it. If anyone still talks to star in any way, I would really appreciate if someone could relay this to her if possible. Thanks and again, I am sorry.

    TLDR: bye for now, tell star queen im sorry

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  115. Oddly enough…I actually had an idea for a starter based on a rabbit as well (It’s being worked on by an artist contact of mine)

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