Pokémon Gold & Silver Coming to the Virtual Console

Like Pokémon Red, Blue and Yellow, the first Generation II games will be coming to the Nintendo 3DS’ Virtual Console! Pokémon Gold and Silver will be available to (re-)purchase on September 22nd! They will feature wireless trading and battling as well as Pokémon Bank support so that you can transfer Pokémon to the latest games!

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2,282 thoughts on “Pokémon Gold & Silver Coming to the Virtual Console”

  1. This I’m seriously excited for. I’ve played the older version of Crystal, but never G/S. Anyways, speaking on US/UM; I feel more coming at E3. Entirely running on EuroGamer’s creditability and streak of being correct; I fully believe these games might see an additional release on the Switch. It looks like the 3DS is struggling to run it. Yet, somehow, it stays beautiful.

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  2. What’s funny is, to this day, I still have my Gold copy since 17 years ago. But I’ll play the VC version ’cause wynaut.

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  3. I literally cannot express how much I sobbed when this came without warning at the end of the Direct. These two games were my childhood. Gen II has been, and always will be, my favorite games in the series.
    This does beg the question though….Why is Crystal not included?

    It is known that Crystal had the Celebi/GS Ball event that was never officially released…..

    Could this potentially mean they may release Crystal at some point, with a GS Ball event download?! COULD WE ACTUALLY SR FOR A LEGITIMATE SHINY CELEBI FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE?!?!

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  4. I don’t care what anyone says, this Direct has me hyped even more than the Sun and Moon reveal. Pokken Tournament DX is a day one purchase, Gold and Silver will be played a lot by me for shiny hunting, and Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon will get MUCH more playtime than the previous ones (probably). I just think this deserves lots of positivity.

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    • I need to get a lvl.100 before November then! Primarina I’m coming back to you! (My highest level Pokemon lvl.71)

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  5. Nyrarghhgghhhh if I wanted to play GS I’d just boot up the Emulator
    My teams are usually the same
    Typhlosion/Feraligatr
    Donphan
    Ursaring
    Crobat
    Piloswine
    And as much as I want Heracross fat chance of me getting one to actually drop I’ve never once had one work since it’s a specific tree not any

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  6. Man……I really hope USUM are worth buying…….I’ve never really liked the idea of 3rd version as I’d hoped refer a brand new story. They can call it an alternative history, but if it’s just reg SM with Necrozma being shoehorned in then that’s kind of disappointing. Them adding walking Pokemon or more mons to the Dex isn’t really enough for me to get crazy excited. Which is sad for me. If they were just gonna do SM again with only minor changes then it should have just been on the Switch. At least that way there’s SOME value in playing again……..*sigh*….I guess at this point it’s too early to tell tho. Maybe something will strike me as super cool about the new games

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  7. Oh no… What if we’ll have pikachu as the starter? In one shot we can see one of the protagonists with the three starters near him. What if his the rival (like May in RS) and he took all of the starters before you arrived in the region? And you’ll have to take a pikachu (or maybe a pichu) ? They show a lot of pikachu in this trailer, that could be on purpose… Maybe in one version you start with a pikachu (that can evolve) and in the other one with a Rockruff?

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  8. Theory:

    Ultra-Lunala is Ice-type, and Ultra-Solgaleo us Fire-type. Reasoning is Necrozma unleashed their elements from then or some bs

    Mostly because holy fuck Ultra-Lunala looks like it’s made of Ice

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  9. Not pokemon related, but the E3 spotlight is only a half hour long, and that’s like 15-18 minutes less than usual. :/

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    • I think it’s kind of understandable? Arms is coming out before or around E3 iirc so it probably won’t get much focus if any, Spla2n will probably get focus, and at this stage with USUM I think we’ll just get some into but not that much

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      • But this is a very, very imporant E3 for Nintendo. They have Odyssey, FE Warriors, and Xenoblade 2 to cover at the minimum. Covering those alone will take like 20 minutes, and that doesn’t leave much room for whatever I’m forgetting and new announcements. I could be wrong and they could cram in a bunch of stuff, but 30 minutes sounds way too short. If anything I would think it would be longer.

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        • Tru, I just hope they won’t try and stick too much in then :/

          Forgot about half of those 😮

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          • Plus they said they’re focusing on Odyssey, so presumably they’re going to dedicate a lot of time to that. They’re cutting it close, that’s for sure.

          • Not to mention Mario+Rabbids, I forgot about that. That leaves room for like 1 teaser announcement. :/

          • If that gets precedence over Pokémon I’ll be so fucking

            mildly annoyed

            They might show some things in the Tree house (or whatever it is) stream after tho?

          • That’s a possibility, like USUM stuff or other 3DS announcements, but most of the major stuff will be in the spotlight.

          • Wouldn’t be surprised if USUM is in tree house now that I think of it, we’ve already seen game play of it and at this point I doubt we’ll get any super big news except details on the new Lunala and Solgaleo ‘forms’

  10. So what starter are y’all getting for Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon and Gold/Silver?

    For USUM, I’m getting Litten because I’m curious to see how it’s like using one in-game, I’ve already used Rowlet and Popplio before, so it should be interesting using Litten.

    Also, for GS, I’m thinking doing Totodile because Feraligatr was the starter I had 17 years ago when I played my Gold copy.

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  11. Damn this is going to be a great year for us. It’s already had a great start with the Switch and BOTW, plus many more Switch games are on the horizon. On top of that, we now have Pokemon games too in November, as well as GS VC games to anticipate in September.

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  12. What Pokémon do you guys want to get Z-Moves? Keeping it to Gen 1 and 7 Pokémon rn because that’s all we know get them

    Solgaleo and Lunala pleeeease

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  13. If more Pokémon are Getting exclusive Z moves can they at least make them interesting like Genesis Supernova and not boring like the starter one. I still think Oceanic Operetta should set up the rain for 5 turns.

    Lycanrock needs a Z-move that sets up Sand
    Arcanine should get a Z-move that Burns the opponent.

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  14. I’m running most of my same team

    Decidueye
    Araquanid
    Salazzle
    And Kommo o
    Dunno for the other two though

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  15. What i hope for Ultra games is that they make competitive breeding as easy as it was in XY (cause i stopped playing SM because breeding takes too long now)

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    • lolwut? Breeding has never been so easy with SM. In XY, I gotta go left and right to see if the guy already has an egg for me. In SM, I just have to spin with Tauros.

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    • I already used all 3 starters. Decidueye in Sun and Primarina & Incineroar in Moon. This because I thought we were going to get DP remakes instead. Now, whether I buy one or both of these Ultra games, I’m definitely not repeating any of the starters. I’ll just breed some mons I never got to use before, I guess.

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  16. GameFreak: Wow our fans have been waiting a decade for Sinnoh remakes… Well, time to remake Alola!

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  17. Hoping Necro-Lunala & Solgaleo dont get the Kyurem treatment because I would really like to have both of them at the same time if possible.

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  18. Am I the only one actually hyped about the games anymore? …. I feel like they just got shot down so quick here….

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  19. Wait… If It’s an alternate story… WHAT IF KUKUI IS THE EVIL TEAM LEADER WITH BURNETT AS THE ADMIN, AND GUMZA AND PLUMERIA ARE THE PROFFESORS? WHAT IF GUZMA IS PROFFESOR WILLOW?

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  20. Let us enjoy this great and fitting song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu9pTGFjA4c

    Lovesick the beat inside my head
    Direct struck a sea of bitterness
    Lights out solo in the blue
    Before I found you
    Days passed slowly, lost and low
    You gave me hope and now there’s only
    Salt running in my veins
    I’ve never been here before
    And I got hate falling like the rain
    I definitely could’ve asked for more
    I got so much SoulSilver inside my bones
    Take a look at me now
    I’m young, forever in the (ultra)sun
    Ever since this came, I’m living ultralife
    I’m living ultralife
    I’m living ultralife
    Turn down the voice inside my head
    ‘Cause heaven only knows why we feel this emptiness
    But I will climb out, find another view
    Now I’ve found you

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  21. Apparantly there was this 4chan rumour two weeks ago that said about UltraSun and Moon and also mentioned Eclipse in 2018 #believe
    Currently at stage 3: bargaining

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  22. Interestingly enough, now with Gold and Silver coming to VC, the only generation that doesn’t have access to PokeBank is gen 4. Still might be hope that gen 4 remakes are inbound.

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  23. Thoughts on the Direct: Pokken on Switch is great for me. Never really got it for Wii U, and I’m actually starting to think Nintendo might bring over some Wii U titles to Switch since its so far successful (Please Nintendo and Atlus, bring Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE to Switch). As for UltraSun and UltraMoon, seems cool. I may get only UltraSun as I am just now beating Sun and Starting Moon. But oddly the information does seem to fit in with Laura K. Dale’s info from last year regarding Stars, so maybe they may do what Capcom with Monster Hunter XX (Generation X, or if you want to get your game on, Monster Hunter GX (Please get the reference)), and release these on both the 3DS and Switch, who knows? Glad gen 2 ia coming to the 3DS Virtual Console, but am surprised Crystal was left out.
    TL;DR In all, decent info, do expect more next week. Cheers.

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  24. I like how everyone was talking about how bad they wanted a new Pokemon game and now that it got revealed I swear there is more complaints than actual hype….
    No offense to everyone… it just brings me down quite a bit

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  25. Just a question for those who own one, but has anyone noted how long the Switch Battery life lasts if playing a game like Shovel Knight, or Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero? Just curious as I plan to get a good number of Indies on it as I like playing indies on the go mostly.

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    • You could probably get to about 5-6 hours easily with games like that, if not more. They’re not super intensive.

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      • Exactly my point. Every site I see is only saying battery life for games like Breath of the Wild or Mario Kart (not that I mind, I’d play those too in portable mode) but I like variety with games, and getting indies like say Stardew Valley seems fun on the go for the Switch, but no one shows the battery life of it with indies.

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  26. Is it wrong to think that maybe US and UM maybe the last proper Nintendo 3DS titles for this year, and we may see Generation 8 on the Switch. Just a hunch as this gen seems very Gen 5ish to me.

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  27. Grrrrr! I need my happiness back I had it at the release, but now everything has settled down and now i feel worse

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  28. Ok so even though I just BARELY finished Pokemon Sun, I’m now thinking to trade it in when Ultra SUn comes, as I kinda am stuck with a Digital copy of Moon. But to me it seems like a smart move as I usually like to play one game as my main game and the other version as the rival game. SO I could use UltraSun now as my main game, and Moon as my rival game. Seems dumb, but unique to me lol

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  29. Wow… the community is hating all over the 20 seconds or so of gameplay….
    I think this is the worst I’ve ever seen a Pokemon game recieved

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    • Yeah people are raging because it’s not on switch and because it’s ‘the same game’

      Honestly, why did anyone expect to get a Pokemon game on the switch the first year. Gf is always behind. It took them 2 years to put a game on 3ds.

      The same game thing makes sense.
      Like what does alternate story even mean..

      I’ll see more before judging

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    • Im more mad about the reveal than the game itself. I know fucking nothing about this game. 5 minutes of a game no one cares about and 20 seconds near the end of like… nothing! Give us a trailer! Something!

      Also it’s on 3DS so there is NO technical improvement at all.

      On top of that, it is two games but its still a third version instead of a sequel apparently? Like.. what? What is it? The fact that no one can say if its a sequel or a third version shows how bad this reveal was.

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    • IDK, I seem indifferent. As I got SUn and Moon really late, and just starting Sun, I may get a bit burnt out, hence me planing to trade in my physical copy of Pokemon Sun now for UltraSun. If what they say is true, and its an alternate story, then playing UltraSun as my main game would make re-playing my digital copy of Pokemon Moon less tedious. In all, I’m curious, and hope its not like B2W2, imo my least favorite main title Pokemon games (yes, I said it, I am sorry).

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    • I really want the games to be packed with content and I’ll be overjoyed to buy both games. But if they are the 4th pair of 3DS Pokemon games with no post-game, I hope they fail miserably. Hit ’em in the wallet and they’ll hopefully change.

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  30. Something that’s interesting about Pokemon USUM is that we could have a somewhat similar structure in plot, but perhaps an entirely different story. I mean, it’s set in an alternate universe, so it could be drastically different in story.

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  31. So before I look through everyone’s thoughts I just want to make sure I’m on the same page. We’ve got uglier clothes, Pikachu infestation, Mimikyu forces the protag into mysterious illness, Solgaleo and Lunala are forced into their radiant sun/full moon phases, and everyone’s mad, right?

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  32. Not sure why people are upset. We all know in our lifetime that we will likely get a DP remake. PLUS, in our lifetime we will see countless more new pokemon. So USUM are coming and may not introduce new pokemon… all this does is put off DP remakes and gen 8 to a later date. If you don’t want to spend money (like me if there’s no new pokkemon) on a game, then dont. But don’t claim that Nintendo doesn’t know what they’re doing. They’ve made questionable choices in the past, but as long as people keep buying the games, I would never call a game a mistake.

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  33. Just curious, do you guys think they may still use trials, or if its in an alternate universe, they go back to gyms?

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  34. Haven’t been here in forever and only have time to type this but I’m hyped for GS but also did anyone see in the USUM trailer the bracelet he was wearing had black and white triangles

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  35. I, for one, am excited to explore this beautiful region again, possibly with new pokemon. I hope trials stay and the same captains are there, just hopefully the bad and good teams are more into nature corrupting/saving.

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  36. I wouldn’t be so disappointed​ if the fusion forms or whatever had good designs. I kinda feel like GF has lost their touch with designs, imo.

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  37. Idk if anyone has mentioned this, but during the pokemon direct, the shelf that had pokemon games did not have diamond and pearl, gotta think this was done on purpose

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  38. US/UM is confirmed as 3DS exclusives. I guess I was wrong. It seems like we’ll have to wait longer for a true HD Pokemon title. Install base for the 3DS is larger, so I understand. The Switch needs a Pokemon title in the future to truly compete and be successful!

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    • However, a 4chan post (from May 29th) stated the next games would be Ultra Sun and Moon and also stated a 3rd game “Eclipse” to be coming to the switch

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          • Yea it would be annoying, but I guess on a positive note it would show they want to have pokemon on the switch and this is a way to test it while still securing 3ds sales. If it works out we can probably expect D/P remakes on the switch which in the long run may be best

          • Seems like a load of confirmation bias.
            Clearly, “Sun”, “Moon”, and “Ultra” are important words now, so it makes sense that they’d be used again. We can’t forget that they also mentioned “Eclipse” as a possible word (which makes sense, because of sun/moon). They even mention that the games could be “Eclipse Sun”, “Eclipse Moon”, and “Ultra Eclipse”. That information is wrong. Could it be that they purposefully included false information? Sure but that kind of seems like an ad hoc argument now. Also note that they incorrectly gave the release dates and announcement date.
            Just be careful of seeing information that may have, by chance, happened to be true and assuming that the rest is true as well.

          • Of course we cannot assume this to be true, but they got the name right or at least closer than most, also the fact that the press release accidentally had Switch TBA release date might mean someone got confused and added that since they knew eclipse would be on the switch. Could of just been an accident but you never know.

  39. I really don’t think these games deserve any hate at the current moment. We know what they’re intended to be, an Emerald/Platinum 3rd version…or in this case versions. People adore those games. The real hope is hinging on the content these games will provide. And it being on 3DS is fine. I love the Switch, but before the Switch the 3DS was my favorite Nintendo system. It’s obviously not a dead system. I would’ve preferred it on the Switch admittedly, but the games don’t deserve hate for that reason.

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  40. I think the thing I’m most disappointed a out is the idea that they dropped 3rd versions specifically because they weren’t necessary anymore (if ever) and NOW they choose to go back to that kind of game? I would much prefer a game with an original story. I really like Alola Sonic don’t mind going back, but I’d rather play something new than just rehash something I’ve done before.

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  41. which one would you prefer:
    1 USUM being a sequel with everybody grown up, with legendary forms as only new pokemon
    2 USUM being a remake with many changes (kukui and guzma switching roles, lillie and gladion switching roles) with new alolan forms and pokemon

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  42. Am I the only one that’s excited for Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon? I know a lot of people in the official Pokemon YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook feeds as well as on Serebii are really salty about this because it wasn’t a game for the Switch or it wasn’t Diamond and Pearl Remakes. So, I would like opinions on here from the community. I think people are confused because Junichi Masuda said it would be an “alternative storyline in the same world as Sun and Moon” thinking that it’s just going to be a third version like Platinum/Emerald. What he said doesn’t mean that it can’t still be a sequel like B2/W2, just taking place in Alola. After all, we have Necrozma fusing with Solgaleo and Lunala much like Black and White Kyurem in B2/W2.

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    • I think it’s specifically the use of “alternative” that’s throwing people off. If it were a sequel, then why not use “new” or “brand new” instead?

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      • I am a little bit confused still but feel that this will be a lot different from Sun and Moon from what I saw in the 20 seconds of footage in the trailer, there were some little details here and there that I could spot. I think that these games have the potential to be just as great as any other main series title. People just need to give it some time. I’m sure we’ll get more clarity from either E3 or CoroCoro and then some people who were salty will start to get happy again. At least I hope that is the case.

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        • Exactly. Not enough has really been shown to declare that they’re going to be bad or anything. For instance, imagine if Platinum had been revealed but only showing the very minor enhancements (towns, gyms, etc.), but nothing of the entirely new distortion world and Giratina Origin Forme storyline. You’d think that the games would be quite lacking, right? We could be experiencing something similar here.

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    • I’m excited for it, this game could add new features, better post game and new areas and Pokemons making it a great game!

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      • I saw a lot of things changed around in Alola in the small bit of footage that we received, I think that this also potential to be a great game, I just think people need to give it a chance. After all, we only saw 20 seconds of footage. We barely know anything about the games. I hate it when people jump to conclusions thinking that the games are going to be terrible when we barely know anything! It really grinds my Klinks if you know what I mean. Lol.

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  43. Listen guys.. I want either
    One enhanced port
    One Sequel
    Two sequel games.
    NOT TWO ENHANCED PORTS

    the more i think about it the more i think about it. E3 needs to reveal actual information

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  44. Even if I’m disappointed and the reception is negative, these games are probably gonna be way better than any other pokemon 3ds game.

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  45. Why are yall bitching about cash grabs and enhancements now? They’ve been doing it for years lol

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  46. Platinum: one of the most liked games in the series, held as a major improvement over Diamond and Pearl, etc

    USUM: Fucken cash grab this is immoral wrrrry

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  47. Ya know I was so hyped for these games and they actually cheered me up even though I felt like actual shit…..
    So much for that..

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  48. Necrozmaleomoniger Zero looks pretty cool I guess. Necrozmas Lunaala projection or whatever not so much.
    I’ve only ever bought one ‘3rd game’ and that was white 2. My feeling for this is we’re gonna need a significant amount to justify it. At least 40 new ‘mon and/or alolan forms would be nice but I’ll not get my hopes up. Probably won’t be new Megas. New Z-moves will likely be underwhelming. Still ,like a mug I’ll probably buy it.

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  49. Friendly reminder that Misdreavus, Murkrow, Stunky and Glameow were all absent in Platinum so I guess it’s a cash grab guys now

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  50. Building off my last comment, I hope the walking animations for each Pokemon are put to use in USUM. That would redeem every negative observation I’ve seen so far.

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    • Sad thing is the minute we see walking Pokémon or any other popular feature literally at least half the people complaining will suddenly be praising the game to hell and back

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        • I’m not saying opinions don’t change (I used to hate Incineroar) it’s just the hypocrisy of people saying all this stuff until we see more of the game

          If it comes out and it’s a total copy cash grab yeah be mad you’re entitled to it

          But we really know Jack shit about it rn

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  51. So from what i can tell the main reasons why people are hating on these games are :

    a) not for switch
    Which is sorta stupid considering it’s the first year of tge switch and Nintendo did release the new 3ds

    b) not sinnoh/sequels
    Which I agree with.

    c) unclear as to what they are.
    If they are third versions then maybe highlight the new features first. Make it clear what alternate story is. I’m confused if we are gonna get new Pokemon or not.

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    • I think they made it perfectly clear though. Necrozma is playing a role, new totems and Z moves were hinted at, they outright said it’s an alternate take on the story of Sun and Moon. It’s an enhanced version.

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    • This was a terrible reveal “trailer”

      I wanna know what they were thinking.

      “Ok ok so like..we will show Pokken for 5 minutes… then 20 seconds of a game that isnt stars or DPPt. AND WE’LL EXPLAIN NOTHING HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH WE GON BE MILLIONAIRS

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          • Lol no reason. The reason has been explained to you numerous times and you refuse to accept it. Why does 2 games bother you so much? Both games are going to have the same enhanced story. The Pokemon featured are going to be different lol.

          • Absolutely nothing you said made sense. Nothing.

            No reason for it. Yet you just stated the reason in your very next sentence. People buy both versions, exactly! 2 versions has been proven to sell more, because there are those people that go and buy both.

            “It’s an enhanced port except nothing is enhanced.”
            – Did you watch the same trailer I did? Necrozma is playing a role in the story, Lycanroc is hinted at being a totem, new potential Z moves. This is literally what Emerald and Platinum did.

            “It’s on the 3DS so the tech is the exact same.”
            – So Emerald and Platinum weren’t enhanced versions? By this logic, they aren’t.

          • Emerald and Platinum arent even relevant why do you keep bringing it up? We are post B2W2 at this point. Third versions that arent a Z version are a hard sell so the fact that we get nothing (Necrozma and totems woooooooaaahh gotta drop 40 bucks on this) is pathetic.

            Making two versions for an enhanced port a year after release is anti-consumer. Simple as that.

          • Emerald and Platinum are relevant because they are the same concept as these games LOLOLOL.

          • No theyre not. Pokemon can do sequels now and the gaming land landscape has changed. Doing third versions split into two games is anti consumer. If you want two games, make them sequels.

          • They are the same concept. What you just said is what you want them to be. They are all enhanced versions.

          • That is LITERALLY what Pokemon has done for over 20 years LMFAO. I’m not being forced to buy both! xD

          • tbh, the two versions of each game (Red blue, etc. etc.) have always been the same game except slight changes because of legendary and exclusive Pokemon and what not.
            So to get mad at this is a bit of a stretch considering Pokemon’s history

          • im sorry for butting in but isn’t that literally what Pokemon has been doing since the very beginning? two versions tend to sell more, and give an actual incentive to trade…

          • who said i’m buying it four times. most people just buy one version, and we barely know if its gonna be an enhanced port or more than that. your logic actually baffles me lol

        • Seriously. It amazes me that the ORAS trailer is being used as a positive example for revealing a game. I would take some box art with intriguing legendaries where we actually understand exactly what it is.

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      • I agree.
        I was so excited then i got disappointed when i saw pokken, then hyped again,then just confused as too what it was.

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    • I thought it was pretty clear that it looks to me more like a sequel because of the route scene where it looks similar yet different like time passed but *shrugs*
      Regardless if it is or isn’t, we don’t know yet so there’s not use arguing about all of this until we truly know.

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      • Like, either build it properly now or remove it completely and put something good in its place. Just have us find a completed cube for the latter option.

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        • Tbh I just want them to give Zygarde Complete better stats

          Just give it 720 so it’s as strong as Arceus and put its new 12ish points into Sp.Attack or Speed

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          • I want it to have a reason for being other than some scientists from Kalos are on holiday.

          • I think they were trying to imply it’d there because Ultra Beasts and what Aether is doing? But it’s poorly implied if it’s being implied at all

          • It’s barely there and frankly there is no consequence to not collecting it so it has no impact on the rest of the game whatsoever.

      • Some proper story elements would be nice. Heck link it to the Ultra Beasts somehow if you can just do something better with it GameFreak.

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          • Yes, it would be better than, ‘hey look, here’s a thing for you to collect every now and then for no particular reason’.

  52. I saw a post speculating that Necrozma is using Solgaleo/Lunala as a light source to amplify it’s power since it’s a prism. That would be an interesting concept. A parasitic legendary.

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    • Tbh that sounds really cool and makes sense 😮

      I’m thinking it’ll probably more of a true symbiote though, seeing as it probably also powers them up

      I’m excited either way!

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      • I can just imagine being powered up for too long could harm the host. There’s no proof of that, but it would be an interesting plot point if they’re being forced into their radiant sun/full moon phases.

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        • What if Necrozma forces them into their phases to get back to Ultra Space? In game they only go into their phases when they’re using their signature attacks, opening a portal, and stabilising ultra Space for non-natives (at least I think that’s what the legend was doing when it couldn’t move in Ultra Space, because you and Lillie don’t start to blink in and out of existence until after it has to move)

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  53. Ok going out on a limb
    You can put chunks of Necrozma (Ultra Shards) into your Z-Ring and specific Pokemon can be infused with Necrozma energy causing them to be enveloped with Ultra Armor
    Solgaleo and Lunala
    Lycanroc
    Togedemaru
    Mimikyu

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        • As cool as that would be, it would be hard to implement yet another feature in the next gen. They already dropped megas like a bad habit, I can’t see them somehow balancing megas, z moves, ultra shards, etc. all in the next gen. They already cant do it in this gen.

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          • Actually tbh I think Megas were handled quite well in the post game of SuMo, with a lot of trainers incorporating it into the battle tree

          • Yeah but saving it for post game (while allowing space for z moves) made it feel like an afterthought, plus no new ones just feels like the whole inclusion was obligatory.

          • I think there should just be one mega stone that any Pokemon capable of mega evolution can utilize. You can only use one in battle anyway, and it would free up tons of bag space, so it’s quite practical.

        • Could be an interesting way of making Totems harder

          But keep in mind the pieces of Necrozma on Solgaleo and Lunala appear to be the same size as when they’re together as Necrozma

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    • Doubt it tbh because Mimikyu us seen extending its arms and attacking, implying that cutscene is a totem opening cutscene or a Z-Move

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        • Never said it couldn’t be a totem

          Said it wasn’t guaranteed a totem and that i personally don’t think it is one, but I still find it more likely than the Necrozma Armour due to how big Necrozma is compared to Mimikyu

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      • That’s where I got the idea from stupid
        I rewatched that trailer like 30 times to soak up everything
        And it was black crystally shard
        It has to be either a broken piece of it….or a baby

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  54. So I find it interesting that GF was still able to baffle us with yet another change to the formula. For so long it was two games + a third years later.

    Then Gen V gave us sequels, something unprecedented in pokemon.

    People thought gen VI would be getting Z or X2Y2, we got neither–further changing the formula.

    Gen VII showed up instead and now instead of sequels or a third game, we have an alternate story. I’m not sure what else they could do in the future besides going back to a third game to surprise fans again.

    BUT ANYWAYS, KEEP THE HYPE GOING! This should be just like last night– speculative, hyped, and energetic. We still know sooooo little. We know more than last night, but the door is wide open for speculation.

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  55. Tbh I see this as being a happy medium between Platinum and BW2 but on a game I adored
    Honestly this might end up becoming a favorite of mine

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  56. So I don’t know what to think honestly. I love the idea but a little scared that the games are gonna be too similar to Sun and Moon. But I also have a lot of confidence that GF wouldn’t just copy and paste the games.

    Anyways, REALLY hoping for an expanded post game. Sun and Moon got boring real quick, haven’t played the games in forever because of the lack of things to do after the main story. Give me some umph to the story and give me second region, battle frontier or gyms to battle in the post game and I’ll be happy.

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  57. What if Ultra Sun and Moon were Ultra Hard? Imagine 8 gyms and 8 totems and then 8 Necrozma fused Totems (Earthen’s idea). It would be challenging and It could be very creative!

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  58. So if we are getting new pokemon (just speculation okay???), what pokemon do you feel were missing and should be implemented?

    Ice types (at least two more lines please)
    Dark types (same as for ice)
    Fossils (I thought island fossils could have been sooo cool)
    More three stagers please.
    I wish there were more pokemon like Turtonator, which reminded me of pokemon like Tropius and Druddigon, (similar to Magmar and Electabuzz). High leveled, one stage pokemon who dont need an evolution and could maybe get a prevo.

    Instead, we got pokemon like Komala, Bruxish, etc. that got one stage but didnt go anywhere. These pokemon remind me more of pokemon like Farfetch’d and Dunsparce and Quilfish that have one stage and don’t go anywhere yet everyone wants them too.

    Thoughts?

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    • tbh more pokemon = the new forms (necrozma armor whatever)
      and because of gs on vc my bet would be alolan johto pokemon (not very exciting tho)

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          • ok to answer your question, i think a bunch of the one stage only pokemon. i would also love to see an abundance of the new pokemon in USM because 5% chance for the majority of alolan pokemon was ridiculous. but again, they said new pokemon that werent in sm, i took that as the new forms we saw in the trailer and possible alolan johtos because of the fact that gs are coming to vc and are bank compatible. I dont see any new pokemon. Did any other pokemon game add new pokemon like evolutions in between? as in, did bw2 add anything to existing bw pokemon besides the forms?

      • You’ll get it some day

        And don’t overhyped it for yourself, you might hate the first Ground/Fighting

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        • Don’t you think I haven’t thought about it
          It still has a scary amount of weaknesses and if not stated perfectly it will just be worse off

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          • Thats a lot of really prominent types too. Almost everybody has a water type, and an energy ball somewhere in their party. Psychic is everywhere, Fairy has only gotten bigger and badder, and ice and flying hang out on teams more often than not. Sorry dude. That’s probs why it doesnt exist yet.

      • Also more Fairy types. I would love too see more fairy types. And their type combos. Also I generally just want more pokemon wth 3 stage evos, I know this is weird, but I would like that.
        More Megas too with type changes. Like Water Fairy Milotic or Dragon Steel druddigon

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        • do we have an electric fairy that isnt tapu koko yet? my 3 favorite types are psychic and electric as the older ones with fairy being added because it has some similarities with psychic. i would like to see more combinations with these. also still waiting for an electric fire starter

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        • IMO Water/Dragon Milotic has always made more sense. I just want my Mega Infernape but I know if it happens at all it won’t be until Warp Diamond and Pearl.

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    • I agree with this especially with the dark types and fossils.
      And less stand alones since, while I love some of them, I like playing with ones that evolve and get stronger (kind of part of my narrative of them changing like I am I guess)

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  59. My view:
    Really excited and I’m definitely gonna be in a speculative mood until these games are in my hands.
    I am leaning towards sequel based on that route and the characters looking slightly different, but I doubt it’s just a ‘third version’. If it is a alternative story, that means it’s a different retelling and it’s not gonna be the same as SM so I think they will be worth playing because of that different story.
    It’s kind of like ORAS where some details and things were changed to make a new story, except maybe they’ll change even more.
    (And honestly I so want a sequel because that Gladion art that was from the night before makes me want it so much)

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    • If we actually get new pokémon (don’t wanna build my hopes up too much for that), they need to correct their crime of never having alolan fossil pokémon. Never forgive, never forget

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        • NO. I’ve had this debate at least a dozen times before so I’m not going to go into specifics but… THAT’S NOT A BLEEDING VALID EXCUSE. a)there are a bunch of cool subfossil species b) When tf has GF ever cared about valid biogeograpgy/geology before
          These asses don’t deserve excuses being made for denying themselves so many creative options , and removing the most excting part of a generation for me.

          Really sorry if I come off as agressive but as I’ve said I’ve had this debate so many times over and I’m sick of people letting GF get away with their usual bullsh*t decisions.

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          • a) This is an issue I take very much to heart so no, I don’t see the need to calm down :p . No point in throwing an empty phrase like “it’s just a game” at me, me being angry about this doesn’t in any way indicate I don’t realise that? Does this seriously make it sound like it’s a serious life issue to me? Fact is if I see a mention of fossils and SM I’m bound to think of my most major disappointment with the games, and I’m perfectly entitled to express my opionion, no?
            Again I have no intention of making anyone feel attacked at all, this is just literally the one thing that majorly pisses me off about these games.

            b) Yeah, in gen II that was basically gen 1.5 (which is a whole fascinating thing in itself). Any reasonable assessment of precedent (which GF admiteedly toys with in each generation) would take this into account and tell you fossils were still a stable pattern.

          • You literally told me to fuck off over a game. You can show your disappointment for a game, that isn’t what I said ‘it’s just a game’ for. I said ‘it’s just a game’ because you’re being rude asf

          • Just to point out is actually that some avis aren’t loading for me, I think most do have avis

          • For some reason the avi broke a few years ago and I just haven’t bothered to fix it hahaha

          • Oh hey fair enough if you got me confused with someone (which is fair if we don’t have clear profiles haha 🙂 .
            Maybe be more careful before accusing me of literally telling yo to fuck though hahaha
            I am very angsty over this specific issue but I honestly don’t think I’m directly rude to people. I’ve been visitng this site for years and only tend to comment when there’s actual news but I really cherish the friendly atmosphere and would never dream of attacking people here 🙂 .

          • Haha sorry today’s been such a blurr, I’m just glad Kuppo pointed it out before it got embarrassing XD

            Yeah it’s fine to get frustrated as long as you don’t let it get feisty with other people and stuff, sorry for all the drama XD

          • Okay so since I actually replied to thinking you were someone else

            1) You do need to calm down. It is just a game. You can criticise it and dislike it all you want, but you shouldn’t let it legit make you angry.

            2) Yet Johto had its own regional bird, bugs and rodent, as well as its own starters. We’ve known since Gen 2 fossils aren’t a given and yet people let themselves get overhyped. Am I dissapointed that there wasn’t fossils (and the number of Pokémon in general)? Yeah. Am I gonna let that make me angry or overall ruin a game for me? Mope

          • I think we can basically agree to disagree on this lol.

            I don’t see a need to calm down, I take this issue to heart, it’s no business of yours to police my feelings over it. A little anger is perfectly healthy, I’m not bursting capillaries over this or something.
            It’s perfectly fine to think you should take enjoyment of fictional franchises with emotional distance, but that’s not everyone’s approach, and I’m certainly not the only one here who doesn’t (and again this happens to literally be the 1 issue that really gets to me).

            Point 2 is frankly just nitpicking. I think discounting Gen II in this case is valid, you don’t, ultimately I don’t think there’s a single right answer of interpreting patterns. It is entirely valid to argue that GF break patterns whenever they fell like it so there’s that too. All it comes down to is me thinking this is an unnecessary and idiotic pattern break, and not wanting to let them get a pass on that haha.

            I never said it ruined the whole game for me. SM was amazing. That doesn’t mean I’m going to sweep it’s flaws under the rug. Accepting the flaws and moving on? Sure, that’s sensible. That doesn’t necessarily entail forgiving them or accepting they were valid decisions. They still should absolutely be brought up when GF has a chance of addressing them.

            But yeah, agree to disagree I guess.

          • I agree to agree to disagree :p

            Also sorry for being kinda cunty about your anger and stuff, today’s just been a blurr and sometimes some people here can have their anger get out of hand so I’m kinda used immediately going into ‘calm. Down m8’ mode

  60. Lemme sum it up

    – Two versions is fucking stupid.
    – Should’ve been sequels*
    – This reveal trailer was really freaking bad
    – Necrozma Lunaala is perfect
    – More Mimikyu love
    – Maybe more customization? that would be nice. I have this irrational anger towards the new girl though.
    – If they have new alolan forms and/or pokemon as well as a plot thats different enough and new features like a REAL battle frontier then its a day one purchase. (B2W2/Platinum levels of content)
    – If not I will probably skip it or buy it later
    – Again, worst pokemon game reveal I’ve ever seen. Give us a full trailer or just.. something so we understand what this is without having to analyze “Never before seen pokemon” and “alternative story”

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    • This wasn’t mean to be a proper trailer tho, it’s just a teaser. It’s meant to drive you nuts and leave questions unanswered, your annoyance makes you interested in it

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    • They might be saving a longer trailer/more info until E3, at least that’s what I thinl. I knew it couldn’t be a huge trailer because of it being nearby and thought it would just be teased, like it was today.
      It was sorta like that last year, where we got a majority of our info near or during E3

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      • I really hope so. My worry is that Pokemon likes to go silent for a few months after revealing the games not revealing anything. But since we are closer to the release than when SuMo were revealed it may not be like that

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        • Were only five months until release, I think we might get monthly info starting from this month or next

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        • Yeah, with 5 months, I doubt we’ll have that.
          I also forgot about CoroCoro, they might also have info. (although they may not since it comes around E3, but worth mentioning anyways)

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    • I agree with the 2 versions thing. Why can’t it be just one fucking game??? I’m tired of having to buy the 2 games all the time to get access to everything. Hopefully, this time that won’t be needed (depending on what they decide to make exclusive to each game).

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        • I don’t like to have pokémon that are not mine. As such, to make a living dex, I had to buy both Sun & Moon to get one cosmog and one cosmoem, one Type null and one Silvally, etc.

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          • No shit, dude. What kind of stupid reply is that? It’s not like I’m the only one making living dexes. How about GF making Cosmog or Type Null breedable instead? Is that too much of a problem? Fuck off.

          • Wow dude calm down? I’m just saying that GameFreak probably counts on people being willing to trade rather than having their own self imposed rules about only having their own Pokémon, and thus don’t expect people feeling its absolutely necessary to buy both games unless they actually want to. No need to be such a cunt about it :/

          • It was the way you replied that triggered me. “That’s your problem”. Was that suppose to make me feel better? Why even waste your time to tell me that?
            Anyway, the problem is with the legendaries. I don’t mind getting regular exclusive pokémon through the GTS, cause I can breed those later to have my own. But do you like having a Xerneas/Yveltal from someone else instead of having your own? I don’t. This is why I liked Platinum and Emerald more than B2W2. You could get the whole legendary trio in one game.

          • I’m just pointing out that the two version thing isn’t a problem for anyone but individuals and not a problem with the games in that regard.

            If I upset you, be mature and say so rather than being so dickish about it.

    • Personal thoughts on it:
      – This is correct, but it kinda has to happen. The games are too different from one another. Theirs only one Cosmog, so how do you determine which legendary you get? It sucks, but its a necessary evil.
      – Nope. B2W2 sold badly and I have no faith that they could do better after the crap Sun and Moon was.
      – It was a teaser, so its forgivable.
      – Both of them are trash and belong right along a certain Toucan you don’t like.
      – Also overhyped pokemon that doesn’t deserve that much attention.
      – Same with the new guy. I’ve never wanted to punch a character in the face so much as him.
      – Not for me personally. At that point I”ll simply be asking why it couldn’t be DLC rather then a full new game that most of us don’t care about.
      – But yeah, this is a hard skip for me. Not worth my time or money. Its just going to be an improved version of a bad pokemon game, and I”m not interested in playing it again.

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  61. So I just realised

    We see no sign of the trainer out of battle after they’ve chosen their starter

    Combing that with what we saw in the SuMo game files…

    Catch my drift?

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  62. What if these versions are only happening so we are able to sit down again? I have seen so many places to park my arse in Alola but am blocked by the inability to sit.

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      • Maybe it’s because we are meant to be from a different region where nobody ever learned to sit except when straddling a Pokemon in full protective gear?

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        • Or….just maybe the game takes place in purgatory and to pay for the sins of our past life we’re force to stand being unable to emote or pain and suffering. Yes! thats got to be it! Nothing else makes sense…

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  63. Um.. So the youtuber Shofu posted a video saying not to be disappointed.

    because he knows something we don’t and it’ll get revealed soon

    UM> WHAT

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  64. So is it too much to get excited over the prospect of new Pokémon?

    We may see new Alolan Formes (but I really want some new Megas).

    New Z-moves are hard for me to get excited about unless they start getting more creative with them.

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        • Honestly while i do think it’s very risky to assume any actual new pokémon, I think it would be reasonable to assume new alolan forms. There were so few of them, and nearly half of them were basically jokes, so I definitely fell like there’s major untapped material.

          Maybe it’s safest to be pessimistic and just assume new legendary forms, but I think we do have a decent chance at alolans, if only following the gen VI precedent of new megas.

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    • in all honesty, i do not see megas coming to usm. i dont think it would fit to just throw more in when they stopped in sm for zmoves. z moves are unexciting (imo) but there will be more and we saw them in the trailer today. as for New pokemon, i said this below but i really doubt we will get new pokemon in terms of evos for those one stage pokemon like komala, bruxish, etc. as much as i would love them, i just dont think so. I see the forms and possibly alolan johtos because of the gs being on vc with bank compatibility. one thing i want is more than5% chance of finding alolan pokemon because that made sense. also get rid of golisopod (is this the name) ability or give hidden ability please

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      • I agree with you and it’s kind of sad. Alolan Formes never had the same umph as Megas did.

        I know we are getting new Z-moves but I hope they aren’t all just boring ones that inflict damage and nothing else. Give them cool additional effects and I’ll be excited about them.

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        • well alolan formes were built as different forms of regular pokemon. megas were built to be powerful in different ways, whether it was typing or stats or abilities etc. z-moves didnt have the umph that they thought they would have as a replacement for megas

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        • Alolan forms make sense if you look at real world nature where variations of the same species can exist due to different climates, diet etc.
          The issue is that many aren’t explained well and are just because of Pancakes/ whatever.
          Megas on the other hand are built onto the lore of evolution in the Pokemon world. Both are interesting but Megas generally have more potential to be game-changers.

          Z-moves are pretty much just longer drawn out super moves that can get tedious fast. i found myself pretty much ignoring them completely during the main game.

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        • I think Alola Forms have less oomph because we might get regional variants throughout the franchise i think

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  65. I combined everything that makes sense, other people’s theories and my theories to make one Big prediction:

    You arrive in alola. You’re from Sinnoh. You have Daddy Issues. You get your starter. You meet your rival that is the protagonist of the opposite gender. You meet Kukui’s doughter that has a weird pokemon. You are saved by Necrozma and it recognizes the weird pokemon. It gives you the Z-ring. You go on your adventure. You fight 8 gym leaders (Grown up Trial capitains + Hau with a Psychic gym + Ryoku) and Totems (Ones from Sun/Moon + A. Raichu (Hau’s Signature mon is now a new Alolan form, his Raichu became the totem)). In the meantime you meet the cult-like Team Crystal that praises Necrozma. After that, That weird pokemon evolves into a second Necrozma that posseses Solgaleo/Lunala and opens a wormhole. He splits and posseses the Totems while preparing to posses the UBs. You have to fight the totems to get parts of Necrozma. He breaks out and posseses the UBs. Gym leaders fights the UBs, you have to get help from Team Crystal and Catch the Original Necrozma, use his Z-move and beat the second Necrozma. You win, the second Necro devolves back into the weird friendly pokemon. Then you battle the Elite 4 and Lillie the Champion. The end. In the postgame you can catch the UBs and battle in the Battle Frontier.

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  66. Guys, I’m feeling like getting into pkm again after a few months off it. I started playing SM again a couple of days ago and only found out about the direct today lol. I’ve only watched 6 episodes of the anime, is the rest good?

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    • I think taking breaks from stuff is always good tbh, it’s probably why I can post stuff here so much even I dry periods because I take breaks sometimes

      I like the anime, but I think it’s hit or miss with some people. There’s filler but I actually feel they’re quite fun? Not fully caught up myself but this is just so far

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  67. This was so disappointing, i wanted the game to be on switch (preferably exclusive), does not help that the game will probably have no new pokemon besides forms. This was just very disappointing all through out. I think this is just a cheap game made to fill out time. Very disappointed in game freak, seems like they still don’t have the balls to move into HD development. Stuck on a shitty 240p device, sigh.

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  68. Now Introducing
    Ultra Mega Charizard X and Ultra Mega Charizard Y
    The next evolution of mega evolution only Exclusive to Charizard

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  69. …. – – .–. … —… -..-. -..-. -.. .. … -.-. — .-. -.. .-.-.- –. –. -..-. ….. ….. .-. – ..-.

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  70. proving that i truly have shit luck
    the very second i get home i receive a letter from Gamestop saying my credit card might been used or tampered with
    PERFECT

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    • I think they fit Solgaleo because they form what looks like griffin wings kinda

      Imo they just look odd on Lunala, which is a shame because I love the icy colour pallet :/

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      • Huh I actually see it the reverse, kinda like having two pairs of hands
        I don’t llike Solgaleo because it just strikes me as odd that two arms are just dangling from their sides

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  71. I know some people already posted them, but if there won’t be new fakemon or Alolan Forms what will your team be?
    Mine:
    Decidueye/Female Primarina
    Comfey (maybe)
    Alolem
    Tsareena
    Minior
    Aloslash

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  72. So at least we have reveals to look forward too. E3, coro coro, and bi monthly or montly trailers until November when everything gets leaked! 😀

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  73. Ok I just realized even tho I wasn’t happy about the announcement before. We are getting new Pokemon games tho , SO NOW IM HYPED

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  74. Waiting for Trump to turn this into a Gun debate and for Islamist turds to claim responsibility to those who are reacting negatively.

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  75. I think people are angry because many of us are sort of over the idea of a third version after we were spoiled with sequels in black 2/white 2 and they straight up skipped Z.

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  76. WAIT I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING
    So you know how we can go in between alternate worlds thanks to our legend (post game) in S/M? What if we can do that, but we can travel to the world of the regular SM?

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  77. A friendly reminder
    All of y’all like gen 7 this much with just one game
    And the new game will be SuMo but even better sooooooo

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  78. I just hope that this new game has the Battle Frontier….but I am not holding my breath. Also hope for some better facial animations ?

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    • Emerald and Platinum both introduced Battle Frontiers to their respective regions.
      And if Ultra Sun/Moon are similar to Emerald and Platinum then…
      Who knows? 🙂

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      • But how can you stay away from yourself? ?

        jk you’re fine it’s just your Ciny stuff that annoys me but I can live with that since yall deal with my bitching on a regular basis

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        • My Incineroar hatred is bad but have you SEEN what THEY act like? It stops becoming about the Pokemon very quick. I may say your opinion is wrong but I’m not gonna think of less of you just cause of that… they on the other hand

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  79. I just wish they had left the legendaries alone. They were so well designed, not overly complicated, and pretty stellar. Necrozma was complicated and needed some kind of story, but combining him twice seems like overkill.

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  80. If I can ever afford the Switch I would probably get Pokken and main Decidueye. I really want to see the colour variants they give it.

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  81. I have to say, it’s peculiar that Gamefreak is going with this route for Generation VII and Pokemon X and Y didn’t get the same treatment–neither a third version nor a sequel. This happened with BW in the form of BW2, but did they just give up with XY? Will it be paired with another region in the future?

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    • To me it all seems like a timing issue. They can claim pokémon Z or whatever was never in the works all they want, I’m always going to remain sceptical and believe that they must have planned for it at some point. They just needed to get Gen 7 out for the 20th anniversary, and they wanted to put their all into it, so they had to ditch the Gen VI third version and shoe-in zygarde into SM.
      Which is a real shame because now X and Y still reek of unfinished, messy as they are, and it seems quite clear from many subtle hints that that generation still had tantalising secrets to reveal. Plus the integration of Zygarde was a joke of annoyingly-near minimum effort lore-wise.
      I really hope they do somehow give XY a proper follow-up someday. Overall I’m just of the opinion Game Freak should just slow down and actually make their games complete and fully polished rather than give us a series of amazing but flawed titles. I’d happily forgo having pretty much a title a year (which frankly I don’t like, damn our restless generation) to get proper numbers of new pokémon, a truly developed story, an amazing postgame, and concepts and ideas that are actually full explored (rather than just leaving a bunch of threads hanging and some obvious missing bits like XY and SM have). But that’s just not their business of production model sadly.

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    • I feel they started on Z, came up with ideas, and then, cancelled it silently, and put those elements in S/M, which is why Zygarde is there. Leaving X/Y with so many loose ends.

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    • I’m honestly so confused why Sun and Moon, such a beautiful and complete game, is getting a sequel when everything was wrapped up in the game.

      Yet here we have X and Y with a TON of loose ends and unfinished story lines, and ORAS with literally NO post game whatsoever.

      But listen, I’m sure the games are gonna be amazing, and GF will surprise us just like they did with SM

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      • I mean……to me it doesn’t really seem like USUM is a sequel or anything like that. Seems more like a Platinum for SM than anything else. I could be wrong tho. I really REALLY hope I’m wrong lol

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      • ORAS had a post game though..

        SM was not fully complete
        -who is the dragon trainer guy who randomly shows up?
        -Is there more to ultra space?
        -what is necrozma?
        -what’s with the random plots of land all over?

        Honestly I have more, but my brain is fried right now

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    • Never been a fan of pokken’s eerie realistic textures but there’s literally no pokémon I wanted more in the game so I’m absolutely sold. Would rather have been able to get the fighters as Wii U DLC but oh well, I completely understand why they’re doing all these enhanced ports (just thinking of the switch v Wii U install base and the amount of people that will get to discover these awesome games), and this enhanced port actually has new content worth a purchase, unlike Mario Kart.

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      • I think it works really well on Decidueye. I didn’t even really look at what Mario Kart has tbh, because I don’t have money for it anyway.

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        • Tbf it has what looks to be the best battle mode any mk game has ever had (with all the different modes from previous games and a new one) to replace the joke that was Mario Kart 8’s, but apart from that all it has is a few new characters (basically glorified skins) and a few tweaks. No new cups just killed it for me. Call me a sucker but I don’t mind buying switch ports if they actually have exciting new content (read gameplay possibilities). More visual options and a new multiplayer mode are not enough for a full price purchase. Hopefully someday it’s reduced, then I’ll pick it up. That or them releasing new DLC (FFS Ninty the MK8 DLC was phenomenal, not continuing to milk that cow is just bone-headedly stupid-I’M READY TO BUY YOUR PORT TO GET NEW DLC FOR HEAVENS SAKE). Ahem.

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  82. This day is just not getting better
    I got a call from the bank saying that somebody HAS been using my card, now I gotta get a whole new one and go through the hassle of putting the information into my renewals
    FAN FUCKING TASTIC

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  83. So, Gen 1 was on VC, then S/M came out and Bank could send Pokemon to it.
    Also Gen 1 Pokemon got alolan forms.
    So, Gen 2 probably will be able to send pokemon to US/UM.
    So it’s possible Gen 2 pokemon can get alolan forms.
    Same rules though, ones without evolutions past gen 2, ones without megas, and none of the legends/mythicals. Though theres not many gen 2 in the Alolan dex, so maybe an expansion too.

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    • Really hyped> disappointed real quick> thinks heavily> gets really hyped again>forgets about it for awhile> gets disappointed when experiencing it first hand> gets hype again

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  84. After I’ve had some time to think it over, I’m actually pretty hyped for USUM. SM were great games as they were, and given the opportunity to polish and build onto that, I’m sure they’ll be great. That being said, they way that it was presented in the direct was incredibly messy. I understand that GF values the element of suprise, but that doesn’t mean they should’ve been ambiguous on nearly every point, including what the game actually is. Even though E3 is only a week away and we’ll likely hear something about the games then, the way they presented these games created a seemingly negative reaction from a large chunk of the community, and that’s not what they should be aiming for in terms of first impressions.

    Overall, I think we really just need to wait and see what these games actually entail before jumping to any major conclusions, but the direct didn’t present the games well at all, and I fear that will hurt them in the long run.

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    • It really was poor the way it was executed. Really doesn’t inspire much and negative reaction is kind of understandable, at least to me.

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        • Exactly. The problem is it was tagged on to like 2 minutes of Pokken stuff, then didn’t really tease much.

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          • I’m one of the people defending it by saying it’s just a teaser but even I think the transition should’ve been smoother :/

  85. Do you think it’s a reach to think Zygarde might actually get a role in the story this time around? The rainbow diamonds on these new forms reminds me of Zygarde Complete’s rainbow zigzag.

    Also @spectralseraph:disqus my phone could hardly load the comments earlier when we were talking, but I hope they give Team Skull a more integral role in the plot this time around. They didn’t really do anything related to Ultra Space and the Beasts, which the plot should focus on from the get go

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  86. HEEEY I’m back!
    It’s been so long, but now with the news I just have to post!
    How’s everyone doing? Do you remember me? 🙂

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  87. WHY DOES EVERY THING FUCKING BLOW UP IN MY FACE
    LOST FIVE MATCHES RUINING MY STREAK AND EVERYTHING IS GETTING WORSE

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  88. I really don’t know what to think of Necrunala and Necroleo. The arms on both of these forms just look off. The helmet of Necroleo also looks so weird… I hope I’ll get used to them soon. Definitely will buy this game though! Depends on other factors which one, since Necroleo is making me doubt choosing Sun again. What’s your opinion?

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    • Designs are weird as hell, can’t even argue with that. Not sure if I’ll be buying these until I see some more gameplay, but when has Gamefreak ever disappointed?



      Don’t answer that.

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      • Well they have to fuck up a lot to ruin this generation. I have faith in them that these games will be great, but I doubt they will be exceeding SM.

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        • SM had this feeling to it, not quite perfection, but something that really stuck out from the other games. It reminded me of how in awe I was when I played through Black and White way back when. Maybe it’s the storyline or the atmosphere, but it was just a pleasure to play through. Whatever changes may be made this time around, hopefully that spirit of Alola still shines through it all and makes me want to put 70-80 more hours in.

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    • I feel the exact same, the arms just throw it all off. If they just added the black shields it would be fine, but the arms are just so random. Def dont like either at ll.

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      • I know right… I sometimes wish other people would work at their designing team. I mean I get how hard something like that could be, but how can you just randomly add Necrozma’s arms on the other designs? How high were they?

        Maybe when we see them in 3d things will add up. I mean when I first saw Xerneas for example I wasn’t happy, now it’s in my top 3 legendaries.

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        • Tbh Necrozma wings on Solgaleo seem to be trying to invoke a griffin appeal

          But tbh the hands are what out me off Lunala a bit :/

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          • I can see that. It’s just that I think the angular design of Necrozma is really ugly and that I feel like they ruined the beautiful designs of Solgaleo and Lunala. They should have added black ‘armor’ and have it incorporated in the body. Just copy-pasting body parts of Necrozma on the designs is just not pretty.

          • Ehh tbh I think they did the best they could do with the whole ‘Necrozma splits apart to make armor’ gimmick, but I do agree that even some minor edits to it rather than straight pull Necrozma apart + paste could of made them even better

  89. Ok…..I’m home and I’ve watched the USUM trailer in full now that I’m not at work. My thoughts are conflicted…….While there really isn’t any Pokemon game I don’t like (minus many parts of DP lol) I have to say at first glance I’m a little disappointed…….I wish we knew more about the games……while on one hand to some degree it seems different than a regular 3rd game it also has all the hallmarks of one and to me that’s a little sad. When GF stated that they didn’t want to do 3rd version anymore because they were predictable I was really happy. I’d rather not have a game that is basically a better version of one that I played less than a year earlier come out………At that point they should have put more in the original games…….Maybe I’m just jumping to conclusions and USUM will be more interesting than I think they will be. I’m a Pokemon whore so I’ll prolly buy US, but I want myself to WANT to buy it……..lol

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      • I understand you. I’m not particularly excited for these just yet. It’s disappointing they would give us an update rather than answer the questions we have with a sequel. But, alas, these are the cards we’ve been dealt and I’ll take something over nothing. I just hope they fix the post game and story.

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      • You’re disappointed, and it’s fine. Your being civil about it and there nothing wrong with that.

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  90. I think we all wanted to see Sun and Moon in higher quality graphics and with some of the framerate issues polished up. Emulators have shown that the 3DS quality is compromised in order for the games to actually run, but I think that’s where the root of most people’s problems came from. For me, Battle Royal is practically unplayable and I couldn’t help but feel disappointed when a climactic Totem battle was slowed down tremendously. By bringing these games to Switch, we could’ve seen some of these concepts in a new light… but I guess we’ll have to wait. Unless US/UM are optimized in some way for the New 3DS / New 2DS? I don’t think they have the capability of running the games any better, though.

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    • Tbh I think that GameFreak could always brush up their code to try and get it running a bit smoother, or even choose to represent the Totems at least (seeing as they’re required for story) with a simpler graphic than their elaborate Aura. Like a smaller Aura or something.

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      • Yeah, that would just make for a smoother overall experience. Hopefully USUM aren’t carbon copies in that regard, but we’ll have to see.

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        • Hopefully they’ll be optimised a bit, Platinum was iirc (probs remembering wrong) and a lot of people complained about DPPt’s loading and stuff

          Tbh even if they enhance it for N2/3DS, the people who invested in stronger consoles should at least get a bit of a smoother experience :/

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          • Absolutely right. Hopefully these technical changes are addressed prior to launch, because it’s a pressing concern for sure.

          • To be honest if it makes the switch and Pokémon then either moves onto consoles or hybrids I think the technical issues wouldn’t be too bad, but you’d be sacrificing portable convenience.

            Hopefully they’ll keep it on hybrids and handhelds though, but in that case graphics and other technical issues become more worrisome… Hopefully it’s just because the main series crew is still relatively new to full 3D and they grow out of it :/

  91. How would you guys perfect Sun and Moon?
    -Battle Frontier
    -More Islands for post game
    -Less cutscenes in the beginning
    -Better maps for the trial areas
    -Rework the plot entirely. It was poorly paced.
    -Give Team Skull some plot relevance because they pretty much did absolutely nothing.
    -We hardly got to know the AF as well…
    -Po town revamp in the post game.

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    • Literally, I loved every aspect of the game except:

      Team skull relevance

      POST GAME
      POST GAME
      POST GAME
      POST GAME

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    • Definitely Battle Frontier, more Team Skull, reworked protagonist animations (dude smiled throughout the whole game and that was annoying), and new Pokemon (evos/pre-evos). I don’t care much about more Z-Moves or Alola Forms, and I think that asking for more islands might be a stretch. It’s still not clear what these games are, though, whether they’re sequels and will revamp the world like BW2 or remakes with few changes like Emerald/Platinum.

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      • I’m really inclined to say they’re sequels because there are two versions…but who knows at the current moment

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        • It would seem unusual to have a PAIR of remakes, so I hope you’re right! I’d love to see Alola in a different light, however that may be. The region definitely felt small to me… new locations might not happen, but a Gym system would be wonderful. Just to add more depth to the actual battling part of the games. The fact that these games are practically driven by the Ultra Beasts, or at least Necrozma, leaves me little hope that Hawaii’s actual culture will be explored, but I can live without that.

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          • Yeah, but at least they seem to be expanding upon the UB’s, which is what I really wanted SM to do

        • I think there’s tow versions simply because SM has the time difference to deal with. If it was a single game then they’d need to figure out the time difference and that would be messy

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    • – BF
      – Better Battle Tree
      – Better story (SM story wasn’t that good)
      – More Pokemons
      – Night route themes
      – More post game
      – Longer Main quest
      – Zygarde with more relevance

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    • Burn the region to the ground
      Dance on its ashes
      Forcefully breed the conception of the perfect Ground/Fighting type
      Murder everyone and everything
      Murder anybody who gets in my way or bests me

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    • Only thing that I would do is Team Skull. As much as I liked Aether being dark, I wish that it was just only Team Skull and Lusamine uses them to fulfill her goals without Aether knowing.

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      • Tbf, most Aether employees are completely innocent. Most of the ones you fight (or maybe closer to around a half) just seem to be doing their jobs by keeping trainers out when asked to, and there’s plenty of Aether employees around Alola who talk to you perfectly normal, show remorse, had no idea, etc.

        Heck, some people called it in game a ‘darkness within Aether’ meaning it wasn’t Aether as a whole

        I do get where you’re coming from though. A pure ‘good’ team would be a nice change for once.

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        • I don’t mind it and it makes sense, as well as a great message about how a group can have good and bad people. However, I just felt like it wasn’t done right, you know? Other than Faba, but even with his slightly suspicious moments, still felt off.
          a ‘good team’ would be dope, tbh

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    • Kinda just expand these except Team Skull tbh

      I liked how they were working for the Aether Foundation, and they did have a role in the plot: they capture Lillie and Nebby, getting them to Lusamine so she could fulfill her plans. But I also liked how for once we didn’t get an evil team centred around a legendary, because I kinda missed that from earlier games.

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    • I hope in USUM Team Skull has overruled the Aether Foundation and they ended their bond. They have a new leader who has risen to the top. Alola is a big mess and the Aether Foundation, now run by Gladion, is trying to stop TS from ruining all the touristic hotspots of Alola. Your parents (the heroes from SM) work for the Aether Foundation, but won’t let you help so you decide to destroy TS on your own.

      This will never happen…

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      • That’s what I was saying! People seem to like the glum atmosphere though, but I would’ve liked to turn it into a training ground for grunts to take on the trials. I thought that would’ve been nice

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  92. On the bright side, we don’t have to wait 9 months for the games to come out! Consider it as already being halfway there 😉

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  93. So…….when do you think we’ll get our first actual info dump of the games………I wonder what their release schedule will look like. SM’s was pretty packed in the later half of the year

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    • CoroCoro might reveal the mascots again, but we can expect that to be it. E3 undoubtedly won’t have anything, so around the next movie seems like a good time. Maybe we’ll get another demo dump…

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      • Idk…..this CoroCoro is supposed to focus on Marshadow. I doubt they’ll focus too much on both of them at once

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  94. Also, I think it’s kinda neat that GF always seems to defy everyone’s expectations. We think there’s a third game in gen 5? NOPE SEQUELS! Sequels or a third game in gen 6? NOPE! SUN AND MOON INSTEAD. Stars or DP remakes at this direct? THINK AGAIN! We can speculate all we want, but we’re seldom right!

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    • Well…..These technically are Stars. “Stars” was the code name supposedly and while Eurogamer got the Switch part wrong they were right about them being a 3rd version like Yellow

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      • I wouldn’t say that stars was code for USUM. Nothing but it being another addition to gen 7 is correct so far. The major thing about stars was that it was for the switch.

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        • It’s true they didn’t get the whole story correct, but they definitely said in their article that the game they talked about wasn’t actually called “Stars” and that it was in fact it’s production code name. Like how Niji (rainbow) was SM’s code name prior to it’s announcement. Either way I suppose it’s a moot point lol

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          • The Eurogamer article they released that started the “Stars” rumor. It originally came from them. It was then stated by a few other people. (at least to some degree)

  95. Guys food for thought

    What is Zygarde? The order Pokemon that controls an imbalance of the world

    Whats wrong in the Pokemon World atm? Necrozma and the Ultra Beasts

    So what if Zygarde this time will be relevant due to UB’s becoming worse in the world like Necrozma making Necroleo and Necrala to take over and Zygarde will step in and fight Alongside the Guardians of Alola?!

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  96. Oh my god I just remembered maybe we’re getting new Alola forms.
    I guess they have to be Kanto Pokemon that can’t be found in SM.
    Arbok (Water or Ground)
    Vileplume (Grass/Ghost or Grass/Dark)
    Dewgong (Water/Grass)
    Weezing (Fire)

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  97. Hey mods, is there anyway to check why its lagging so bad.On my phone and Laptop Disqus barely loads and if it does it goes super slow

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    • Tbf if you actually cross your sequels then you have the advantage of getting some Sun exclusive Pokémon you might of otherwise not gotten

      If we get new Pokémon or Alo forms that could be a problem tho

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  98. I would Like to see more Side quests. And not like the stupid ‘side’quest of Lati@s in ORAS. That was super forced. I mean if you go in this area you activate this in game event. In game events are the best thing to experience if you have no idea what’s going on

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    • Sidequests are a great way to make cool postgame content too, if they’re creative and engaging. Though just finding ultra beasts in the tall grass was pretty weak, the story part of that quest, and the more cryptic bits like the necrozma hints, were just great IMO. Why not give all the Battle Tree guest stars actual sidequests rather than just cameos? Who wouldn’t want that???

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  99. What things do you guys think are going to be expanded on, regardless its a sequel, updated version, etc

    I think we’ll probably get

    -More UB info
    -More info on the Aether family
    -Explanation for those empty plots (battle facilities? Gyms?)
    -Necrozma info (duh)

    And maybe

    -Zygarde info
    -Guzma/Plumeria info
    -Guzma/Lusamine info
    -Post-game Lillie info

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    • I just want to know more about my precious Lillie and Gladion.
      And Team Skull/Guzma/Lusamine/all that.
      But mostly Lillie and Gladion

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    • OMG OMG OMG.
      I just thought of it… What if those spots are like the Battle Tents in Emerald. They each hold a beginning version of a battle facility and Post game it has Battle Frontier!
      There are 7 empty spots!! 7 frontier leaders!!
      GUYS

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      • Tbh even if those plots are empty throughout the main game but become facilities post game it’d be dope

        It’d be a bit annoying if the facilties are so spread out but at the same time they could each have interesting designs that match the area they’re in

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    • I think we’ll probably get everything you listed and a fairy type trial

      And maybe some more info on Type: Null

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  100. So what Johto pokemon weren’t in Sun and Moon and would be likely contenders for alolan forms (though in an alternate timeline, they could have pokemon receive alolan forms who were normal in SM)?

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  101. Away to bed soon folks, so first I want to make predictions :p

    Ultra-Solgaleo will be Psychic/Fire with Prism Armor

    Ultra-Lunala will be Psychic/Ice with Prism Armor

    In a way, they’re almost opposites to the Kyurem forms. If I were to guess:

    Rather than being forms of the third legend caused by the main pair, it’s forms of the main pairs caused by the third legend.

    They aren’t true fusions – Kyurem forms are literal fusions of the two Pokémon, combining features. This looks more like power-up armor than anything.

    Finally, the new forms inherit the third legend’s ability rather than the main two’s abilities

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  102. So the kind of game that USUM are aside……….I have one question about Necroleo and Necrunala……..WHY? I think their designs are cool enough, but I can’t figure out one reason they’d have any connection that would allow them to fuse/ wear Necrozma as armor……When Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyrem fuse it makes sense. There’s lore that tells you why it happens and there’s a device that allows it to happen. In this case I just don’t know……….If Necrozma had just gotten a new form that would have been one thing, but what in the world is a good enough reason to slap Necrozma on top of Solgaleo/Lunala? Not hating on the idea, Just very very confused………

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    • Necrozma is maybe a parasite that needs to fuse to gain power? Maybe combined they are UB killers?
      Point is, regardless of what it ends up being, there will be lore/explanation for it in the game. We didn’t know why the 5th gen legends would fuse/their history until we played the games (at least I didn’t) so until we know, I wouldn’t dismiss them

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      • But but but…..We did know….Unless I’m wrong we knew from BW that they were all one dragon at one point……..I think at least……This just doesn’t have any prior lore to give us a reason to believe this makes sense hahaha

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        • We didn’t know Kyrem was a part of that one dragon until the sequels, unless I am wrong too.
          I still think, even if SM didn’t offer lore about it, lore will be in USUM to explain it.

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          • eh…..yeah you’re right. we;; find out at some point……I may just be nit picking lol

          • Nah, you’re all good 🙂 We barely know anything about USUM at this point, so having discussions like this or nit picking about something is okay in my book. Plus, you do bring up a fine point that I do wish a hint of this was mentioned in SM and I wonder what the lore about this will be.

  103. People expect too much lol. Did you lot think we’d get gen 8 already or something? Come on man this is good. We’ll have Pokken DX and USUM for 2017 & gen 4 remakes in 2018. People have to calm down lol

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    • I think what people are mostly disappointed about is that getting a new game should mean a new story. Not a minorly changed version of a game they just played. We should have to buy SM again basically to get the features that are in USUM. If it was a brand new story brand new features would be fine, but having to buy the same game twice for some minor changes seems dirty……..At least to me anyway hahaha

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          • Lol they said its an alternate story, that by itself already makes it new and different. We dont know anything about it yet and people are already making assumptions smh

          • True, but technically you could say Platinum was an alternate story. Just because the bad guy goes after a slightly different mon at the end doesn’t mean it’s a different story altogether…….Oh well I suppose we’ll just have to wait……

          • And Platinum is still one of the best games in the series to this day. At this point, the only thing we know about USUM is that the mascots have new forms and we’ll have new hairstyles for the PC lol. More info is sure to be revealed soon, possibly on E3

          • DP kind of ruined Sinnoh for me so I can’t speak to how good Platinum is, but you’re right we’ll just have to wait and see what happens lol

  104. I hope, as stated many times before, that Necrozma is a kind of parasite controlling Nebby. I’m actually pretty excited for these games, except for the ugly new designs.

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  105. A Mega Evolution
    A Pocket Dimension
    A Fusing Dragon
    The ability to be a Doge, a snek, or power ranger thingy
    The ability to become rad accessories for bats or lions to wear

    I love third mascot legends

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  106. SON OF A GOD DAMN FUCKER
    This fucking bitch of a Cresselia does nothing but spam calm mind and Thunderwave and doing nothing out of fear that Araquanid will Mirror Coat it, THE FUCKING TIME IT DOES DO IT IM PARALYZED WHY DO I HAVE SUCH HORRENDOUSLY BAD SHITTING LUCK

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        • How disrespectful can you be? Seriously Xatu was telling you something to advice you, but you curse at him. You are just mean. Im sorry for rreplying to this Xatu I know I shouldnt, but I just cant believe some people

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          • I just don’t freaking care anymore
            Everything I do ends in total disaster and I’m truly done with it
            Maybe this’ll be the year I off myself because things clearly aren’t working out
            Just constant failure anger and sadness day in and day out and no sense of rebound

          • Hey Hey Hey… Trust me you can try this conversation, but its been done a million times. Trust me as being in psych class most things a non professional can say cause more harm. You told him to try to get a Therapist and thats good. You’ll be here forever if you try. Trust me.

          • yeah, no. Thats their fucking job. You are unhappy and angry. You have no excuse to not keep trying. Life is hard and you get in bad spots that may last longer than others but its the only thing you have so you need to make the best of it. I’ve got my own fucking problems too but I seek help when it gets really bad and there is absolutely no excuse not to. I’m so tired of this. Everything that has ever happened in the universe led to you existing. Millions of years of evolution, all of human history, all so you can live today so fucking do it. Enjoy it. Because you wasting it away unhappy and not even trying to improve is more frustrating than any video game you will ever play.

          • Hey cmon now. This is the last time Im gonna say this, today. THAT DOESNT HELP DEPRESSION. It can and will make it worse. Please Undersrtand, I know you want to try but it wont. Not only for him, but you just flood this place

          • As someone who is also pursuing psych in college and wants to be a social worker/school psychologist, a huge part of dealing with depression is challenging the thoughts that you think and finding ways to distract those thoughts or make them not the sole focus of your mind. While they might have done it in a different way I would have, what they are saying matters and is actually what I would emphasize when dealing with a similar patient.

          • I plan on becoming a psychologist… but to be honest I’ve only had a single year doing so in school

          • Awesome 🙂 I’m about to finish getting my bachelor’s soon (one semester left) and while I would need to go to grad school for school psych, I wanted to get some experience first with just social work to really see if that’s the path I can see myself going down.

          • Hey you are pursuing the career so you obviously know more than me, but as I what taught in psych class their (the fellow junglers) method isnt always as handy. Ive been told telling one who is depressed to just “appreciate life” or that their problems is that big of a deal in the larger spectrum just doesnt work. Yes it may be the truth, but how would one feel if problems that caused a lot of stress was just belittled by other people because they arent “real” problems. But if you think I should stop butting in and telling them to stop, I will. I just dont want to bring all the drama here, and then everyone is just left feeling worse than before. I appreciate your input though.

          • No, I totally understand, and like I said, I don’t agree with how they worded their sentiment and the comparing of problems isn’t always the best route. But yuo do have to remind the person that you have to reach for help in order to receive it and it will be hard to block those thoughts out, but you must work at it. And I understand about the drama part, believe me, drama is something I avoid, but they aren’t doing total bad either.
            They are concerned and I think that’s a good thing.

          • Yea maybe I was the one making it a bigger deal than it needs to be. Sorry about that. I will keep this in mind for later. Also I wish you best of luck on your career and degree, I know whatever you do you will be the best! Good to see since I havent seen you in a while!

          • It’s all good, I totally understand where you were getting at, and you weren’t totally wrong either. There are ways to make people with any mental disorder feel even worse then they already were.
            And thanks 🙂

  107. Hey! Please will anyone do a Battle Royal with Cascoon, Seraph and I!
    We need one human/half human/Anyone that has Sun & Moon

    Please been trying for over an hour to find one more Person

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  108. Last year they referred to “Radiant Sun” Solgaleo and “Full Moon” Lunala and I swore they meant something despite the fact that they were literally just the forms they took to use their signature moves….

    Now isn’t it a little weird that these new forms have them PERMANENTLY IN those forms?

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    • I think it’s been hypothesised that this is Necrozma recreating them with its Light Power having absorbed the Sun/Moon radiation. That or it’s their most powerful state and Necrozma is allowing them to stay in it.

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  109. Ugh….. I hate being negative about Pokemon….This is all so new to me…..Usually the only gripe I have is with DP and that I can get over hahahaha

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  110. Looks like I might be making little speculations about this game
    Let’s see how wrong I am….
    Afterall, my correct vs incorrect Sun Ratio as pretty high in favor of correct

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  111. Ok ok….gonna try and say something positive…..I loved SM so……….If these games are SM , but better then……..I’ll love them too!!! Right? Right? That makes sense right? lol

    Also I do actually like the new forms. they’re a little goofy looking, but that can be a good thing lol

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      • Oh I already love Lunala. I think Solgaleo fits the story of Nebby more, but Lunala is my favorite of the two by a long shot lol

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        • Really? I always saw Lunala fitting better

          Picture this Lunala as some over the top villian who wears a masquerade mask
          Hence why I love it

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          • Yeah I feel like a fuzzy lion is more Nebby’s speed than weird bat ting. Maybe it’s just that I played Sun tho that makes me feel that way tho lol

  112. I honestly feel as something is going to be given to the starters, they wouldn’t just drop them in the same gen they were a huge focus in

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  113. So two things came to mind as I re watch the trailer of USUM. Both involve Lycanroc. First is that I think the two forms will get a Z move. In the one shot we got Midday Lycanroc doing some stuff that is either a cinema scene or a move. I can’t see that animation being less than a Z move. The second thing is do ya’ll think that we’ll actually get a 3rd form for Lycanroc? We do have that empty place holder space in SM’s code. Could be a ting right? lol

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  114. Oh OH OH!!! One more thing!! What do ya’ll think that last shot is of the character shifting the Z crystal around? Maybe it’s part of the Necrozma form thingy or maybe it’s something different!!

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    • I actually tried making fan games called
      Pokemon Grey and Purple
      Based on Latias (Grey) and Latios (purple)

      And they had a conjoined Pokemon above them named Lanias kind of as a Parent or fusion of them

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  115. When I said that we could revisit the original games’s world by using our legendary, I think it actually might be legit. The reason why is because, with the whole thing of GF switching it up every time, I think they could switch it up by having this game be simultaneously a regular third version and a sequel, as we could revisit the original games at a time when it’s a large amount of time after you became Alola’s Champ in SM.

    Plus, not seeing what happens to Lillie after SM’s story would be strange, considering GF would be aware that the audience enjoyed her character and wanted to see how she grew as a trainer.

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  116. Oh god. There’s so much negative energy surrounding Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, it’s actually making me sick to my stomach. I feel like the hate from others is going to come out of the computer and explode on my face. I’m so worried right now and it’s honestly uncalled for. I shouldn’t let other’s opinions get to me. I’m excited, so I’ll leave it at that. Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are going to be great games I feel, with a lot of potential. I’m also excited for Gold and Silver on the 3DS Virtual Console.

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        • Also, people aren’t negative for USUM, just for what could have been. If the finished product turns out great people will still be glad to buy it.
          I for one am just disappointed that I have to take my 3DS with me if I want my Pokémon fix and knowing me that won’t happen as much as before, so that’s why I rather had some sort of Switch version.

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          • I would of liked a Switch version as well, but you can’t win them all. I was so attached to the Pokemon Stars rumor but I ended up being excited for the games anyway because I know that in the end it doesn’t matter what game system it’s on, it’s a main series game, we got it and that’s that. I look forward to being a part of PokeJungle again to speculate and ahve fun during the news stages. Because I don’t like to hold on to grudges, but apparently a lot of other people do and there’s a lot of uncalled anger and hate on these games despite us knowing little to nothing about them from just 20 mere seconds of footage. But I can understand some of the frustration. You just don’t have to act like a 5 year old child that didn’t get what they wanted for Christmas about it. And I admit, I had my times in the past with S/M and OR/AS leaks where I did not practice what I am preaching and I feel very sorry for all the hell that I put you guys through.

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    • No offense, but I don’t think you’re one to talk about “negative energy” considering your past on this site during the SM leaks. I think until some of us see more of the game and what it has to offer, we will stick with our initial opinions. They could clear up or not, but that’s up to each person.

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      • I confess that I had my times of many outbursts on here during the SM leaks as well as the OR/AS leaks and I feel really sorry for all the hell that I put everybody through but I know that there’s no going back. I’m sure there’s going to be some things I don’t like about US/UM during the leaks and news reveal period, and I’ll try really hard this time to keep those negative comments to a minimum and not spam the whole chat with negative energy. For now, I’m excited with what US/UM has potentially to offer and will just leave at that for now.

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    • I know, it is painful to see the sea of unneeded hate for it. So what if it isn’t on the Switch? Honestly, I’m very excited for what it has to offer, and in the end, I think I’m going to love for what it has to give us.

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    • Ignore the negativity!
      As true Poke fans we’re gonna wait on more info rather than being judgemental.
      We’re all in for a pleasant surprise.
      I have a good feeling about these games!

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  117. How is everyone doing? :3
    Just wanted to share my opinions on all the announcements.
    First of all I am among the group of people who were not disappointed by the direct at all. I did not anticipate stars since it was just a rumour and Junichi Masuda (or another head of Game Freak) clearly stated that main line Pokemon games will remain exclusive to portable consoles and the switch is a home console. I figured we’d get Pokken or Mystery Dungeon for the Switch.
    I never played too much of Pokken on my Wii U, but I screamed like a little girl at Disney World when I saw Decidueye, and the inclusion of 3 v 3 battles also got me hyped up for Pokken.
    I admit that I started feeling disappointment towards the direct the longer the Pokken trailer got since I feared that was all we would get, but I was happily wrong, I got excited to see that we are getting Ultra S&M and I loved Solgaleo’s and Lunala’s new forms. But in my opinion, the best part of the direct was the announcement of Gold and Silver coming to the virtual console!! Crystal was the first Pokemon game I owned myself and Johto is my favorite region by far. Duper satisfied and happy with today’s news. Now we wait for E3 and Coro Coro each month!

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    • It was a good Direct. I think we’ll get a lot more people to side with the positive side of things about Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon once we get more information on them. Masuda’s wording didn’t really make it clear to me if we are going to be geting a third version or sequels. So I’m still unsure what to believe at the moment, but hopefully we’ll get more answers at E3 or from CoroCoro magazine.

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      • I agree with you, I’m hoping they still end up having a connection with the original sun and moon stories if they are not sequels, because it would suck if they just threw all the story and character development we got to the trash.

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  118. Alright back online for the match to start
    Sorry my phone ain’t telling when new comments appear so I moved up here

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  119. I actually restarted my HG and SS to try hunting for shiny starters on the off chance they would announce 2nd gen for Virtual console. Happy to say after 5562 starters seen, Totodile decided to shine! Still going to try and get Cyndaquil on my HG though. Hopefully no Chikoritas there because i already got one a couple years ago 😛
    As for the USUM announcement:
    I really enjoyed the fact they just casually teased a couple seconds of footage out of the blue (in the context of assuming they were just showing the pokken trailer at the time. The way they presented it, promising an “alternate story” with more pokemon than were available previously (akin to B2/W2) made me overlook my hopes for a big console leap. I can honestly say this is the first time in a while that the pokemon company has actually caught me off guard in a good way.
    I will say, however, when I look back over things, that it DOES somewhat make sense not to make the leap to the Switch so soon. Sun and Moon brought in a ton of sales (14 million copies in less than a year) that I am not 100% the Switch market could handle right now. The demand for the system drastically exceeds the supply given, and having a main series pokemon game for the Switch so early on might have been disastrous. Fans who weren’t lucky enough to get their hands on the console yet would be just as outraged.
    While it might not happen this generation, I wouldn’t give up hope yet, friends, as I’m sure we all remember the interview stating that GameFreak is definitely interested in working with the console. Let us hold out hope for the next generation to make the leap! 😀

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  120. I bought a Splatoon t-shirt. I’ll never need to wash it since it will always be the freshest t-shirt I have.

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  121. Guys I need some advice!
    Basically looking to invest in a new 3DS after not playing since ORAS (Sold my old one some years ago).
    So which one would you guys recommend me buy? Is the new 3DS worth it or do I go for the older one and save a little $$$?

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  122. I think I’ve finally come to terms with USUM. I’m still not sure where I fully stand on it, but maybe there’s some good stuff that could come of it. I mean I played through both X and Y and can’t say I got anything good out of it other than getting to play with some different Pokemon I really like so being able to play through Alola again may have it’s joys. while I do wish it was it’s own completely different story I’ll at the very least give it a chance. We have 5ish months to learn about the games and see what they bring to the table. I think my not wanting it to be a reg 3rd version may have gotten in the way of things for me and clouded my judgement. even if it generally is the same game it could bring some new stuff………We just have to wait and see I guess lol

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    • I’m personally a bit iffy on the fact that USUM borrow the whole fusion concept from B2W2 (even with similar coloring), but I have faith that they will differentiate this story element in some way. Other than that, I see no reason to believe that these games won’t be fantastic. There must be a reason why they chose this path after the success of Sun and Moon, I’m excited to see what comes from it.

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      • I have a feeling ti’s not as cut and dry as them recycling the fusion concept. The new forms look more like solgaleo and Lunala are WEARING Necrozma rather than them becoming one. Obviously the end result may mechanically be the same, but I imagine it’ll be different lore wise. As for the games in general I have to say listening to other People talk about the games on YouTube made me feel better. The idea that while it may be the same general story, but with gyms rather than trials or having certain characters be villains rather than heroes and vice versa could be cool. I just hope there’s enough in these games that is different to make playing through the general story again worth while. Make me feel like I;m not spending more money on the same exact game at least lol

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  123. I gotta say tho I really do hope they introduce more Alolan forms. It;s such a cool concept and while sure some of the backgrounds for a few of the new forms are suspect (here’s looking at you Raichu) It’s still really cool for them to bring older Pokemon back to life. I really hope they focus on gen 2 this time around. It seems only right given that GS are coming to VC just before.

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  124. So to kick start my return to Pokemon, I’ve started Poke Blue. Altho it lacks some of the recent advancements it’s where it all begun. Really excited!
    Still not sure which starter to go for…
    What would you guys pick if you started RB today?
    I’m leaning towards Squirtle!

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    • Tbh pages aren’t really a good way of counting paper length (b/c of font, size, spacing, etc.). But most of my essays (in hs/college) are 2000+ words all the time. I’ve had to do some 4000+ word research essays which are pretty much hell. But this semester I’m in an online psych course and I’m typing my notes (for the first time ever too, I’m pen and paper all the way). I’m at 29 pages and ~8900 words. And I’ve only just finished Chapter 3. Out of 16. Kill me pls 🙂

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        • Oh yeah I feel that. I was in IB and for my EE (one of the 4000 word research essays), I had to bs so much from my sources. I ended up getting a D (on an A-E scale) from the IB graders. But I knew it was crap and didn’t bother fixing it because I knew I wouldn’t get an E (which would make me not get my diploma)

          This is my last non math/science class, so I never really have to write essays again! Yay for never having to go through this bs again!

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  125. I see you on twitter trying out Battleborn’s new trial version Pokejungle ;3
    Lemme know how ya like it
    My main got buffed so I’ll be back soon enough

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  126. Oh here’s another thing. Do you guys think they’ll swap out some of the ride Pokemon for USUM? If so what Pokemon would you swap and what for?

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  127. Random thought: I want every character to get a crazy redesign in USUM. I have a strong fear they’ll play it safe and make these games too similar to the originals, in more aspects than just the characters, but I hope they go all out.

    Worst case scenario, they just change up a few battles and add some different dialouge. Now I’m reaching, but what if they make an all new soundtrack?

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    • Honestly I expect the opposite. I think they’ll change quite a lot in these games. Just as they’re not stupid to be repetitive and surprise us with games, they also know they have to make this game different as much as possible.
      I have high hopes!

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      • I wish I had your level of optimism. I’m by no means dissapointed, but the reveal was soooooo fuzzy that I’m a little concerned.

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        • I feel ya. It was a strange announcement and it left me disappointed too.
          But I’m optimistic that with more info that will change.
          Even Shofu who has some kind of inside info says there are some big surprises in these games!

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          • I’m done putting stock in any rumors. I was always skeptical, but people were saying that 4+ sources confirmed stars, and we all know that didn’t happen.

          • These aren’t nust any old rumours. It’s shofu for crying out loud. He says he has inside info and it’s quite obviois where he’s getting it from *cough* someone who’s started workingat nintendo recently *cough*
            So do you think we’ll get any info at E3??

          • The spotlight itself is switch only so no. The treehouse is possible but unlikely

    • Oh there will be a lot more changed than that, this is going to be a Black and White 2 level of change to the game…. just not an actual time difference

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      • I really want them to go all out. Maybe the bad story for SM was setting up for this? I want a crazy, involved, and well-written story. SM’s story felt like the cookie cutter with a new coat of paint, and maybe some glitter.

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          • Well, I hope. GF doesn’t exactly have the greatest record when it comes to these things. I love GF and Pokemon games, but sometimes it seems like they don’t know exactly what they’re trying to do.

  128. Two more things: idk why, but it bothers me that the same prefix word is used for both games. I’m used to different words lol

    Second thing, it bothers me that the font for “ULTRA” is smaller

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  129. I’m gonna rewatch the trailers in a second
    All I’m gonna say is that I like the male trainers outfit, it’s cool and has those dangly string thingies like my shorts tend to have
    I FEEL MORE IMMERSED

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  130. Please PLEASE give more significance to Ten Carat Hill. I love the music there but I have no reason to just hang out.

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  131. So I’ve got a crisis
    I want to replay Crystal or Silver to get a taste of the hand held
    also i fucking want to go buy some freaking Minute Maid like a big jug

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        • Its so tempting, but I’ve gotta get ready for Stormblood. Early access is in 9 days and I need like 4 at least to do the last things I want to do before it, which amount to getting an ugly Fenrir mount, max reputation with the factions which I haven’t yet and do the final quest with them, and finally earn the shiva pony so I can get the Kirin mount. I’ve literally done the fight over a hundred times and never once have earned that last fated pony. I probably won’t be able to even try it until the weekend anyways. People don’t try to do farms until then. Such a shame its a worthless mount now. And if I do it I get to meet the game director’s fourth wall breaking character. He’s pretty amusing.

          http://www.mmomounts.com/sites/default/files/Boreas-ffxiv-mount.jpg

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    • Just watching the video now……does he have precedent to knowing stuff or is he just blowing smoke out his butt? I feel like he’s just trying to be positive in the video

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        • Like what is a bit more info? Is it the kind of thing where he thinks he saw something in the trailer that other haven’t seen? Also it’s a no brainer that we’ll get more info in the coming months……that much doesn’t take a whole lot to come to lol

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          • I don’t think he’s making stuff up and acting like he knows what’s coming, just pointing to the obvious. There’s gonna be surprises in these games and people should wait and see before blindly hating them.

          • Which is the major point of shofu’s video. He is explaining why it was asinine to expect it to be on the Switch, as much as I admittedly wanted it to be on.
            And the 2 games thing I’ve honestly only seen coming from you. 2 games incentivizes trading and is more profitable.

          • It’s just that another 3DS game hurts the game itself. It means that unless they pull out some coding wizardry, we’re still getting laggy battles and all that.

            I’m curious to see what’s going to happen with it but the game should’ve been on Switch

          • It could end up being another BW2 situation where the games were great and had amazing content, but due to the end of the DS’ lifespan, didn’t sell too great. But even that said, they are still fondly looked back on as the last games that had a great post-game. Really hoping the same happens for USUM. I can deal with another 3DS game’s efficiency issues. For me anyway, they aren’t too frequent on the n3DS. Just need to see that content…

          • And it shots themselves in the foot too since people are buying Switches like crazy. At this point I’m just concerned if Diamond and Pearl remakes are going I be on Switch or not because at the end of the day all that matters is the well being of DP remakes.

            I’m sure they will be fine games and if it is like B2W2, it’s a day one purchase from me but people’s grievances make sense

          • I feel like these will be the last 3DS main series games and DP remakes will be part of Gen 8. I have no evidence to support this idea, it’s just what I feel xD

          • No I don’t think so. Because 2018 is going to be 10 years since Platinum came out and with how much they are teasing Sinnoh its gotta be next year since it’s not this year

          • Btw I apologize if I was an ass earlier, it got out of hand. I just can’t see your point of view unfortunately in regards to 2 games.

      • I dunno… I mean keep in mind etika got a swtich months early.. Shofu seems like the kind of guy Pokemon would tell

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  132. Tbh I just hope we can see other trainers do Z-Moves

    The more Nanu Z-Moves we get the better

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  133. Good Morning, I slept really well, deers~
    But I did just preorder the game Pokemon Ultra Moon yesterday, i was so early the manager that helped me didn’t even know those games existed yet, how interesting is that~?

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  134. Hey guys do you know if it is possible to trade Pokémon between gold silver to red blue yellow I mean the Kanto pokemon of course if I remember right there was a time. Capsule or something

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  135. Well I feel better today as I’m also repressing my stress cough, have decided to stop worrying, and being more positive about problems

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    • Also I will admit, what bothers me most about Lunala’s design is the chestplate. Even though it looks absolutely badass, it can use some polish

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  136. Argghghhhhh i need to draw a small Arabian Pokemon but i can’t get the body type to work
    its called a Spellsufi and they are Psychic types that live in scorching arid areas, they drape their bodies in a cloth that is actually made of thin veil of psychic energy, this veil protects them from harsh weather

    i can’t get the body to not look racist

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  137. Plot twist: That Wingull who appears in the trailer was the real evil mastermind
    It killed Mohn and used Lusamine’s obsession to make her its puppet in order to puppet Guzma

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  138. Oh hullo google translate, lemme test what happens when I use you on the Japanese Pokemon site
    Necrozma: Pokemon enveloped in a mystery that is
    thought to come from another world to ancient times

    The forms:
    Pokemon that appears in the world of “Pocket Monster Ultra Sun Ultra Moon.”
    Its appearance resembles somewhat with legendary Pokemon
    “Sorga Leo” “Luna Alara” and “Necromaza” that appeared in “Pocket Monster Sun Moon.”

    as one can tell it does not handle names well

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  139. I really hope they change up the league a lot. Like I know they may be adding Totem Lycanroc, but I just hope that isnt the only one. Maybe some different Elite 4 (Mina?). And They got to add more/new Post game right? Now Im getting hyped for this game.
    3rd versions are ALWAYS better than the original (Crystal, Emerald, Plat)
    Get ready for a good game guys.
    But dont raise your expectations too high

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      • Like I said last night I’m not so sure he does. It seemed to me he was just trying to be positive and was just telling people not to get to upset yet as we really don’t know anything about these games at this point. I’ll admit his choice of words are a little odd at the beginning, but after that he never really says anything else about how he “knows something”

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    • Given the way they show Togedemaru I think that maybe they’ll swap Vikavolt out for it. Hard to say what other changes they could bring from this trailer tho

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  140. ughhhhhhhhh i hate having to get new credit cards
    but luckily me updating my Warcraft sub went off without a hitch so that’s good

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  141. Is anyone else slight annoy at all of the people raging about Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon? Neogaf is has like 30 + pages full of people being super angry. I guess they aren’t a fan of this Pokemon Zoids crossover. Atleast Togedemaru is still in the game, maybe gamefreak finally gave it a viable steel attack. Maybe AZ and Zinna will show up in the game. AZ floette needs to be an event in the game or they have decided to never give it to us. They need to be smart about tying up loose ends in this game. Also, they should add new pokemon if they region is going to have any drastic changes .

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    • I’m with you on being annoyed at of all of the people ragging about Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon. We don’t even know anything about the games really, just 20 seconds of footage. The biggest complaints that I’m seeing from other people are that it’s either:

      1.) Not on the Switch
      2.) Wasn’t Diamond and Pearl Remakes
      3.) Sun and Moon was terrible, so therefore they think this is terrible too.

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        • Yeah. IKR? There doesn’t seem to be in-between for most people. It either is really good or really bad. For me, I like to think of the strengths and weaknesses of each game and try to give as fair of a review as possible. Sun and Moon were really interesting. They really did break the mold. Not that there is anything wrong with that. A lot of reviewers in the past such as IGN and GameSpot keep complaining that it’s the same formula. My one problem with Sun and Moon was the lack of post-game. Once you were done, I feel like there wasn’t enough to do after you caught the Legendaries and did the Ultra Beast storyline. I hope that Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon fix these issues.

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      • I hope at E3 we get a really polished trailer, that makes these people’s jaws drop. I think gamefreak is in a transitioning process right now, which is why Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon are 3DS games.

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    • Want to know what… You read my mind! I hate all this ridiculous hate on USUM! So what Sun & Moon didn’t meet standards of these d*ck bags! Or so what its not on the Freakin’ Switch! Or yeah we wanted D/P but who gives a flying type f*ck! We got a game and thats what matters be happy for what we have and not what we don’t people! And we probably will see D/P next time around and if not oh well we can’t understand GF’s methods of Pokemon we just have to hope to get what we are hoping!

      Sorry I’m venting about it

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      • I completely understand the venting. I was really shocked with the amount of hate for USUM. I am hoping that it knocks the socks off of the people hating on it.

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  142. Do you think there will be gyms in USUM? They may be adding the 8th totem (Lycanroc), it could be to match the number of gyms needed. And it could mean that Olivia isn’t a Kahuna/Elite 4 member, or at least a Rock type specialist (there would have to be a rock type gym if Lycanroc’ll be a totem)

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    • There’s those empty lots in some of the towns and routes across Alola that looked suspicious. Those could be locations of future Gyms. Also, from what I saw in the trailer, it looks like the house where the player starts on Route 1 has either become a town (there’s a Pokemon Center to the left when the player is walking up to Route 1 and festive banners as well as Pokemon such as Wingull in the background, so it really does look like a town now) or is an entirely new location on maybe a different or new island. The place where you also pick your Starter Pokemon looks different. They’re not standing on that platform in Iki Town like they were in Sun and Moon.

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  143. The moment Where you are way more excited About playing the first pokemon game you ever played again than a sequel of the letdown Pokemon game

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  144. Time to return to my favorite region after all these years (not really I still own the original GSC and their remakes)

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