Like Pokémon Red, Blue and Yellow, the first Generation II games will be coming to the Nintendo 3DS’ Virtual Console! Pokémon Gold and Silver will be available to (re-)purchase on September 22nd! They will feature wireless trading and battling as well as Pokémon Bank support so that you can transfer Pokémon to the latest games!

  • glauca

    This I’m seriously excited for. I’ve played the older version of Crystal, but never G/S. Anyways, speaking on US/UM; I feel more coming at E3. Entirely running on EuroGamer’s creditability and streak of being correct; I fully believe these games might see an additional release on the Switch. It looks like the 3DS is struggling to run it. Yet, somehow, it stays beautiful.

  • but why 3ds tho

  • Golden_Flygon

    What’s funny is, to this day, I still have my Gold copy since 17 years ago. But I’ll play the VC version ’cause wynaut.

  • Butter Geek

    Why 3 separate articles?

    • Golden_Flygon

      (Shrugs) Honestly it would be easier to have only one article

  • AuroraLights493

    I literally cannot express how much I sobbed when this came without warning at the end of the Direct. These two games were my childhood. Gen II has been, and always will be, my favorite games in the series.
    This does beg the question though….Why is Crystal not included?

    It is known that Crystal had the Celebi/GS Ball event that was never officially released…..

    Could this potentially mean they may release Crystal at some point, with a GS Ball event download?! COULD WE ACTUALLY SR FOR A LEGITIMATE SHINY CELEBI FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF THE FRANCHISE?!?!

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      For me it just made me realize I wasted 40 bucks buying the cartridge version last year

    • Butter Geek

      It wouldn’t make sense to release them after the remakes

      • ??? THATS WHAT THEY DID IN GEN 4 THO

        • UnburdenedLegume

          What if they’re going all out for gen 4 remakes, make them Switch exclusive ffs would be unreal

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          No it wasn’t? It was DP then Plat then HGSS

  • Butter Geek

    Two sequels? You know what that means!

    We’ll have to wait until 2019/2020 for gen 4 remakes

  • UnburdenedLegume
  • So now Gen 7 is SMUSUM

    or Ultra S&M ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

  • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

    Two unknow skus for the switch popped up on the GameStop

    • skus?

      • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

        It’s the product number for a game

  • ShinyXatu

    I don’t care what anyone says, this Direct has me hyped even more than the Sun and Moon reveal. Pokken Tournament DX is a day one purchase, Gold and Silver will be played a lot by me for shiny hunting, and Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon will get MUCH more playtime than the previous ones (probably). I just think this deserves lots of positivity.

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      I need to get a lvl.100 before November then! Primarina I’m coming back to you! (My highest level Pokemon lvl.71)

  • September 13, 2008
    Next year Platinum will be 10 years old

  • EarthenWarrior

    Nyrarghhgghhhh if I wanted to play GS I’d just boot up the Emulator
    My teams are usually the same
    Typhlosion/Feraligatr
    Donphan
    Ursaring
    Crobat
    Piloswine
    And as much as I want Heracross fat chance of me getting one to actually drop I’ve never once had one work since it’s a specific tree not any

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Look it up online like I did then take patience for it

      • EarthenWarrior

        It doesn’t work that way, it’s random for every freaking game,

        • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

          Then they changed that feature in HGSS cause every site I went to was correct on the right tree

          • EarthenWarrior

            Well this fucking ain’t HGSS is it

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Well same region older times

          • EarthenWarrior

            Nope

    • EarthenWarrior

      OH AND I GOTTA EITHER PICK DONPHAN OR URSARING

    • UnburdenedLegume

      But you cant transfer shinies and shit to Bank on an emulator

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        True, but I think I will beat Yellow first before moving to Silver

      • EarthenWarrior

        Like I care for shinies,
        And they’re worthless if not EV and IV bred
        Just wasted boxes

  • http://i.imgur.com/hydT8ZW.jpg

    still salty no dp remakes

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Me no care my mood was gloomy this morning and now I’m bursting with Vigor!

    • ShinyXatu

      They’re coming, one day.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      New Lillie content tho

  • TheMonster6893

    Man……I really hope USUM are worth buying…….I’ve never really liked the idea of 3rd version as I’d hoped refer a brand new story. They can call it an alternative history, but if it’s just reg SM with Necrozma being shoehorned in then that’s kind of disappointing. Them adding walking Pokemon or more mons to the Dex isn’t really enough for me to get crazy excited. Which is sad for me. If they were just gonna do SM again with only minor changes then it should have just been on the Switch. At least that way there’s SOME value in playing again……..*sigh*….I guess at this point it’s too early to tell tho. Maybe something will strike me as super cool about the new games

  • Butter Geek

    Oh no… What if we’ll have pikachu as the starter? In one shot we can see one of the protagonists with the three starters near him. What if his the rival (like May in RS) and he took all of the starters before you arrived in the region? And you’ll have to take a pikachu (or maybe a pichu) ? They show a lot of pikachu in this trailer, that could be on purpose… Maybe in one version you start with a pikachu (that can evolve) and in the other one with a Rockruff?

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Lol I like how people are speaking about whatever they want across all three articles

  • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯
    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Tbh I think that’s a rare occasion where the smile fits XD

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Theory:

    Ultra-Lunala is Ice-type, and Ultra-Solgaleo us Fire-type. Reasoning is Necrozma unleashed their elements from then or some bs

    Mostly because holy fuck Ultra-Lunala looks like it’s made of Ice

    • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

      We match

    • Butter Geek

      I’d rather say Lunala Ice/Flying or Ice/Dark and Solgaleo Fire/Electric or Fire/Dark

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Looking edgy =/= Dark

        • Butter Geek

          Lunala should = be dark

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            1) Not how that works

            2) Not really? Dark-type represents evil and things seen as evil. Actual darkness is represented by the Ghost-type: example, Shadow Ball, Shadow Punch, etc

          • Yeahhh maybe Dark wasnt the best type name

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Tbf it must be hard to pick anything other than ‘Evil’

          • Butter Geek

            1 I was joking

            2 But she looks evil with that black Illuminati on her head

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            1) It was a = bad joke

            2) That’s totally subjective tbh

            And menacing =/= evil

          • Butter Geek

            1 I know

            2 Maybe…

  • Ithsme?

    Not pokemon related, but the E3 spotlight is only a half hour long, and that’s like 15-18 minutes less than usual. :/

    • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

      You’re joking

      • Ithsme?

        I wish I was.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I think it’s kind of understandable? Arms is coming out before or around E3 iirc so it probably won’t get much focus if any, Spla2n will probably get focus, and at this stage with USUM I think we’ll just get some into but not that much

      • Ithsme?

        But this is a very, very imporant E3 for Nintendo. They have Odyssey, FE Warriors, and Xenoblade 2 to cover at the minimum. Covering those alone will take like 20 minutes, and that doesn’t leave much room for whatever I’m forgetting and new announcements. I could be wrong and they could cram in a bunch of stuff, but 30 minutes sounds way too short. If anything I would think it would be longer.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Tru, I just hope they won’t try and stick too much in then :/

          Forgot about half of those 😮

          • Ithsme?

            Plus they said they’re focusing on Odyssey, so presumably they’re going to dedicate a lot of time to that. They’re cutting it close, that’s for sure.

          • Ithsme?

            Not to mention Mario+Rabbids, I forgot about that. That leaves room for like 1 teaser announcement. :/

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            If that gets precedence over Pokémon I’ll be so fucking

            mildly annoyed

            They might show some things in the Tree house (or whatever it is) stream after tho?

          • Ithsme?

            That’s a possibility, like USUM stuff or other 3DS announcements, but most of the major stuff will be in the spotlight.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Wouldn’t be surprised if USUM is in tree house now that I think of it, we’ve already seen game play of it and at this point I doubt we’ll get any super big news except details on the new Lunala and Solgaleo ‘forms’

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Or new Mons if we are lucky

  • Golden_Flygon

    So what starter are y’all getting for Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon and Gold/Silver?

    For USUM, I’m getting Litten because I’m curious to see how it’s like using one in-game, I’ve already used Rowlet and Popplio before, so it should be interesting using Litten.

    Also, for GS, I’m thinking doing Totodile because Feraligatr was the starter I had 17 years ago when I played my Gold copy.

    • Ithsme?

      Too early to tell TBH

    • Rowlet so I can use Mareanie

      • also i might not get GS but if I do then I’m going with Cyndaquil

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        M A R E A N I E 👌👌🏻👌🏼👌🏽👌🏾👌🏿

    • Butter Geek

      You’re gonna evolve Litten, right?

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Why wouldn’t he?

        • Butter Geek

          He could be one of the Incin haters

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            You make them sound like a cult

            If someone wasn’t going to use Inciny they’d either say they’d everstone it or just not pick Litten

      • Golden_Flygon

        Yep, I really have nothing against Inciniroar

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Don’t think I’ll get GS but probably Meganium i guess?

      USUM unless the starters get new stuff I’ll be ditching them for other Pokémon

    • EarthenWarrior

      Litten all the way,
      And I’m conflicted up until now I always picked Cyndaquil but Totodile’s more savage and physical oriented playstyle appeals to me

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Then use Totodile then? Using the same Pokémon over and over is bound to get boring

        • EarthenWarrior

          I only use what I like
          Do you think I’ll just get a Jumpluff or a stupid Yanma

          It’s bad enough I can’t get both Donphan and Ursaring in the same game, but I truly want a Heracross and they’ve never dropped for me

          They should’ve made Crystal that way it gets better stuff earlier

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Experiment and then you’ll like more stuff

          • EarthenWarrior

            Feh
            Johto’s dex is pretty weak
            I only like a handful of stuff

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Then experiment and possibly learn to like more things

          • EarthenWarrior

            Do you honestly think I’d enjoy Sunflora, Mantine or Girafarig?
            It’s gonna be
            Feraligatr
            Heracross
            Quagsire
            Ursaring
            Sudowoodo
            Crobat
            Hitmontop
            Piloswine
            Steelix
            Tyranitar (which you can’t even get til post)

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            At least you like my Fav Steel type

          • EarthenWarrior

            There’s like only a few of them that aren’t terrible
            And good luck getting one to evolve

          • Awesome Waffles

            I’m so thankful for HGSS.
            You can your hands on a Larvitar as early as the sixth Gym. I’m currently using one in my Kanto journey.

          • how?

          • Awesome Waffles

            Safari Zone!
            I love HGSS.

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Safari Zone this also goes for Murkrow, Houndour, Misdreavus, and quite a few others…. Except Sneasel!!!

          • ummm Ampharos?

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Sudowoodo

          • EarthenWarrior

            It’s only good for a while

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Every Pokémon can be good in game (with obvious exceptions)

          • EarthenWarrior

            Hate that stupid thing

          • EarthenWarrior

            *Flips you off*

          • EarthenWarrior

            I’m as jealous as it’s easy to KO it with Ground attacks

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Sneasel?!

          • EarthenWarrior

            Gross,

    • Same

    • Butter Geek

      Female Poplio/Rowlet

    • Awesome Waffles

      Rowlet for USUM, Cyndaquil for GS, for the exact reasons you listed.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      I think I may go with Poplio this time

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Sticking with Popplio again I just love them

  • Golden_Flygon

    Damn this is going to be a great year for us. It’s already had a great start with the Switch and BOTW, plus many more Switch games are on the horizon. On top of that, we now have Pokemon games too in November, as well as GS VC games to anticipate in September.

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    What Pokémon do you guys want to get Z-Moves? Keeping it to Gen 1 and 7 Pokémon rn because that’s all we know get them

    Solgaleo and Lunala pleeeease

    • Mimikyu looks like he got a new one in the trailer

      • EarthenWarrior

        It’s probably the totem Mimikyu

        • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

          New form of Mimikyu should happen!

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          It’s completely changed location and seems to be actually attacking whatever it’s going for

          • EarthenWarrior

            Or it’s just a cutscene
            Something provoked it

            What if Necrozma dust irradiated with its wild behavior is being sucked into the Alola Region and is infection Pokemon

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            But we don’t know if Necrozma dust does jack shit

            And Z-Move makes sense: Mimikyu is popular asf

          • EarthenWarrior

            Popular schmopular
            I’m just looking at the hard evidence, Necrozma being the center of this

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            It’s not hard evidence tho

            All we know is that Necrozma has shit to do with Solgaleo and Lunala

            For all we know it shows up near the end with no foreshadowing

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Lycanroc

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Ewe

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Ehh, i couldn’t find what ewe means

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            It’s just a corruption of ‘eww’, but I’d does also mean female sheep

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            I thought you liked Lycanroc e-e

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I know it’s just a joke about how popular they are XD

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            If they’re popular then GF are succeeding at making them popular

    • Butter Geek

      Komala/his evo (Yes, he could get an evo)

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Oh they will I guarantee it

      But hmm maybe Kanto Starters, Togedemaru, Lycanroc, and Mimikyu

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Doubt Kanto starters, they have Megas

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    If Pokemon SM ultra does not have new pokemon i will personally go to GF headquarters to fight them

    • You could probably take them they are so lazy they forgot to put a battle frontier in oras

      • Awesome Waffles

        Have you ever battled Game Freak in the games?
        They don’t mess around.

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      In a battle

  • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯
    • Awesome Waffles

      We’ll get them eventually comrade.

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Oh, I got a good chuckle outta this.

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  • TCRowlet

    I want to know who is directing these games.

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    GF not announcing my favorite gen remakes is a personal attack against me and my soul
    https://m.popkey.co/d39bdc/zJq77.gif

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I missed drag queen gifs

  • Chaos

    If more Pokémon are Getting exclusive Z moves can they at least make them interesting like Genesis Supernova and not boring like the starter one. I still think Oceanic Operetta should set up the rain for 5 turns.

    Lycanrock needs a Z-move that sets up Sand
    Arcanine should get a Z-move that Burns the opponent.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      All my yes to that Lycan Z-Move

  • Slidin Into da news and ya DMS

    I’m running most of my same team

    Decidueye
    Araquanid
    Salazzle
    And Kommo o
    Dunno for the other two though

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I don’t get people who can repeat, I get so bored with it XD

      • Awesome Waffles

        Why mess with success?
        That being said, I’m probably running a different team.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Because we got jack shit for a region and everything sucks

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Because you’re acting childish and won’t even try to experiment

      • Ultra Seraph

        Honestly, it’s cause it is a remake and it feels right to use my four Alolan all stars
        I do wanna change a few things though

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          It’s not a remake tho its an update 👀

          :p

          • Ultra Seraph

            Still I gotta reuse those four

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Nah fam you gotta use

            A poetry obsessed Incineroar
            Larshadow (Marshadow’s gay cousin)
            Wormadam
            Stunfisk

          • Ultra Seraph

            Would LARShadow be pink?

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            No he’s maaaauve

          • Ultra Seraph

            He needs to have his redemption arc first

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Where he admits his love for poetry Incineroar and then runs away from home and adopts Stunfisk and Wormadam

          • Ultra Seraph

            Which one acts like the dog?

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            That shitty assassin Rowlet fake evo

            And Ballio is the creepy uncle

          • Ultra Seraph

            Wait assassin fake evo? Or do you mean Deci

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Nah I wouldn’t call Deci shitty

            Overrated? Maybe. Shitty? Nah

            I’ll try and find it

          • Ultra Seraph

            Okay gud
            You gotta admit he looks good in Pokken

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I’d rather have Ciny or Prim but he actually looks fun tbh

          • Ultra Seraph

            He’s a mix of like Sceptile, Croagunk, Blaze, and a few others
            Looks really speedy
            And I love speedy characters :3

          • if its anything like sun and moon he’s gonna turn out really slow for some reason

          • Ultra Seraph

            Reminder that Empoleon is a power character

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            It doesn’t look good though

            It looks fantastic

          • Ultra Seraph

            YESH

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ
          • Ultra Seraph

            Disgusting
            WHY DOES POPPLIO HAVE A NOSE COMING OUT OF ITS HEAD

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            It was mutated

          • Ultra Seraph

            And the second evo… is fat.. than skinny?

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I’d call it Garfilth

          • Ultra Seraph

            NO LASAGA

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            Jesus Christ, Rowlett final Evo is the edgiest thing I’ve seen in my life,

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        Because most mons don’t work for me and repeat types on my team (be lucky I want to stick with Mimikyu this time)

    • Ultron

      Idk what I’ll use cause the alola dex was meh and I used all the new ones that I wanted

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    What i hope for Ultra games is that they make competitive breeding as easy as it was in XY (cause i stopped playing SM because breeding takes too long now)

    • temporario23

      lolwut? Breeding has never been so easy with SM. In XY, I gotta go left and right to see if the guy already has an egg for me. In SM, I just have to spin with Tauros.

  • Ultron

    Tbh I’m kinda disappointed

    • Awesome Waffles

      About Pokken, USUM or GS?
      All are legitimate answers.

      • Ultron

        Usum. I’d rather have sequels and I don’t like the necrozma fusions

    • TheNintendoChip

      I kind of am too. Idk I’m just not feeling it much. I’ll need to see more info before I make a final judgement though

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      The only thing that disappoints me is the fact that we aren’t getting a Main series for the Switch, I think that UsUm might actually be great games

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        *Yet

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Maybe they’re saving DPRemakes to be on the Switch.

          Maybe…

      • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

        its gonna come to the switch watch

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          I hope

  • Butter Geek

    Am I the only one that will use the starter and 5 new mons/Alolan forms (if get them)?

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Starters are getting ditched faster than GameFreak ditched Zygarde

    • temporario23

      I already used all 3 starters. Decidueye in Sun and Primarina & Incineroar in Moon. This because I thought we were going to get DP remakes instead. Now, whether I buy one or both of these Ultra games, I’m definitely not repeating any of the starters. I’ll just breed some mons I never got to use before, I guess.

  • thegreatcarbinkle
    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Damn girl where did you get those hand wings? Love ’em

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        She stoned it herself!!

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          You go girl!

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    GameFreak: Wow our fans have been waiting a decade for Sinnoh remakes… Well, time to remake Alola!

    • didnt we say this with the hoenn remakes lol

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      So, you’ve been waiting for Sinnoh remakes since it just came out…

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Yes 👀

    • TCRowlet

      Sinnoh remakes won’t get a Direct. And it’s too soon after ORAS.

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        It is joke

        • TCRowlet

          Sure fooled me

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            My name and avi literally are hyping up USUM

          • TCRowlet

            Like I said, you fooled me. I pay attention to the comments.

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  • zess

    Hoping Necro-Lunala & Solgaleo dont get the Kyurem treatment because I would really like to have both of them at the same time if possible.

    • temporario23

      Oh, this. definitely this. I still get pissed that I can’t have both Kyurem forms at the same time.

  • Ultra Seraph

    Am I the only one actually hyped about the games anymore? …. I feel like they just got shot down so quick here….

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I’m hyped asf

      Mostly for new forms and Z-Moves

      • Ultra Seraph

        Gud
        I’m hyped because I already loved sun and moon and these will be even better

    • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

      Because I thought i can finally put down my 3ds. Guess not

      • Ultra Seraph

        But…. are you at least hyped for the games?

        • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

          Idk i gotta see more

          • Ultra Seraph

            Stay hyped tho man… I know it’ll be great!

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      I’m HYPED as well, this game is S/M but more awesome it seems, and with new features as well

      • Ultra Seraph

        THANK YOU!!! 😀 I agree!

    • zess

      I’m incredibly hype! I can’t wait for new forms, story and possibly new features!? Is Pokemon walking going to make it’s return? I sure hope so!

      • Ultra Seraph

        ANYTHING CAN AT THIS POINT!

    • EarthenWarrior

      Nope this has not hyped me in the slightest
      We better get some news next week

      • Ultra Seraph

        (sigh) How? You wanted Sun and Moon to be better
        Here it is, literally right in front of ya

        • EarthenWarrior

          Oh yeah what is new

          • Ultra Seraph

            A FLESHED OUT STORY
            ITS OBVIOUS THATS WHAT THEY MEAN

          • EarthenWarrior

            Doubt it

          • Ultra Seraph

            FLESHED OUT GUZMA
            JUST BE HYPED OR SOMETHING I CAN’T TAKE ALL THIS FUCKIN NEGATIVITY TO A GAME JUST BY ITS TRAILER

          • EarthenWarrior

            Not happening
            Did you think a lousy trailer would make me happy? No

          • Ultra Seraph

            (sigh)

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            That area with the Pikachu
            New clothing
            Probably new Z-Moves
            ‘New Pokémon never seen before’, which implies more new Pokémon/forms than just Sol and Lun

          • EarthenWarrior

            Like I care about areas
            Clothes never struck me, just hipster wear
            I hate Z-Moves
            Unless they pander to my individual tastes I couldn’t give two squirts of piss they’re just gonna be used against me sooner or later

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        We don’t usually get news right after the game is announced so don’t get your hopes up

        • Ultra Seraph

          E3

          • EarthenWarrior

            Duhh

          • Ultra Seraph

            Just wait m8

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I’m just saying prepare for the chance of disappointment

          • Ultra Seraph

            Do we really need more disappointment? This game immediately got shot down… I need something to look forward to

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    What do you guys think will be different about Ultra Solgaleo and Ultra Lunala?

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      typing and abilities and maybe stats

    • Ultra Seraph

      Them stats, maybe a few other things like moves and possibly ability

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Typing, stats, abilities and a new Z-Move or signature move

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I think they’ll both get Prism Armour

      • Ultra Seraph

        Oh god please no

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          They have literal Prism Armour tho 👀

          • Ultra Seraph

            I’ll kill myself, that would make Ultra Luna a literal downgrade

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        Laaaaame. I want an upgraded version of it

    • temporario23

      What if these are actually Necrozma impersonating Solgaleo and Lunala?

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Idk I’m just guessing manb

  • Butter Geek

    Wait… If It’s an alternate story… WHAT IF KUKUI IS THE EVIL TEAM LEADER WITH BURNETT AS THE ADMIN, AND GUMZA AND PLUMERIA ARE THE PROFFESORS? WHAT IF GUZMA IS PROFFESOR WILLOW?

    • Ultra Seraph

      That’s not what they meant

      • Butter Geek

        How do you know?

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          It’ll likely be the events of SuMo that are altered, the the back story imo

          • Ultra Seraph

            BUT FLESHED OUT GUZMA OUR BOI

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            You can flesh him out with a different story in the SuMo basis

          • Ultra Seraph

            I KNOW BUT EVEN MORE FLESHED OUT GUZMA
            HE MIGHT BE ULTRA AMAZING HERE

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            Watch Guzma not be in the game

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            He’s replaced with Guzmaline

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            It’ll be just Guzma wearing Lusamine clothes and hair

          • Ultra Seraph

            I’ll kill myself

  • Ultra Seraph

    We might get a fleshed out Guzma
    …do you realize how amazing that is?

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Plumeria pls

      I might be biased

      • Ultra Seraph

        They’ll all be good

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      A fleshed out Lusamine is 10x times better

      Come @ me

      • zess

        I feel her story is pretty well fleshed out. If any thing I just want to find out if they managed to cure her.

      • Ultra Seraph

        Wrong… no just no

  • im personally not excited for USM and more cautious towards it. i dont really know if i’ll be swayed over in the coming months :/

  • Daedardus

    Let us enjoy this great and fitting song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu9pTGFjA4c

    Lovesick the beat inside my head
    Direct struck a sea of bitterness
    Lights out solo in the blue
    Before I found you
    Days passed slowly, lost and low
    You gave me hope and now there’s only
    Salt running in my veins
    I’ve never been here before
    And I got hate falling like the rain
    I definitely could’ve asked for more
    I got so much SoulSilver inside my bones
    Take a look at me now
    I’m young, forever in the (ultra)sun
    Ever since this came, I’m living ultralife
    I’m living ultralife
    I’m living ultralife
    Turn down the voice inside my head
    ‘Cause heaven only knows why we feel this emptiness
    But I will climb out, find another view
    Now I’ve found you

  • Butter Geek

    I wanna bet that Guzma is going to be Proffesor williow in USUM

    • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

      Nah

  • Dicie

    Definitely skipping out on Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, but super hyped for Pokken making a return!

    • Ultra Seraph

      WAIT WHAT WHY!?

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I’d say it’s too soon to say whether you’d skip it or not tbh (unless you like lit don’t have a 3DS or something)

      • Dicie

        I have a 3DS, but I’m putting these games in the same boat as BW2 so they better be good. Gyms, steep level curve, a Battle facility. Or bust :/

        • Yeah, I agree. If they don’t have that same level of quality that previous third versions and BW2 had, then what’s the point?

    • ShinyXatu

      Yeah, you’ll say that until they reveal Alolan Dedenne.

      • Dicie

        😮

  • Daedardus

    Apparantly there was this 4chan rumour two weeks ago that said about UltraSun and Moon and also mentioned Eclipse in 2018 #believe
    Currently at stage 3: bargaining

    • Butter Geek

      eclipse would be for switch, right?… right?…

      • Daedardus

        Yeah, forgot to mention that

  • Golden_Flygon

    Interestingly enough, now with Gold and Silver coming to VC, the only generation that doesn’t have access to PokeBank is gen 4. Still might be hope that gen 4 remakes are inbound.

  • Ultra Seraph

    Gonna miss E3 and I wanna die

  • Sunny Mahmud

    Thoughts on the Direct: Pokken on Switch is great for me. Never really got it for Wii U, and I’m actually starting to think Nintendo might bring over some Wii U titles to Switch since its so far successful (Please Nintendo and Atlus, bring Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE to Switch). As for UltraSun and UltraMoon, seems cool. I may get only UltraSun as I am just now beating Sun and Starting Moon. But oddly the information does seem to fit in with Laura K. Dale’s info from last year regarding Stars, so maybe they may do what Capcom with Monster Hunter XX (Generation X, or if you want to get your game on, Monster Hunter GX (Please get the reference)), and release these on both the 3DS and Switch, who knows? Glad gen 2 ia coming to the 3DS Virtual Console, but am surprised Crystal was left out.
    TL;DR In all, decent info, do expect more next week. Cheers.

  • Ultra Seraph

    I like how everyone was talking about how bad they wanted a new Pokemon game and now that it got revealed I swear there is more complaints than actual hype….
    No offense to everyone… it just brings me down quite a bit

    • I got overhype

      • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

        same i got overhyped

      • Ultra Seraph

        Now no one is

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      is not a new pokemon game tho. Is the same game with some tweaks

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        TBF that’s like the majority of Pokémon games :p

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        It could easily be more than that, we’ve just seen 20 seconds of the game after all

        • thegreatcarbinkle

          hopefully, i mean i hope they go the same direction as in BW2 cause i loved those games

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Ooh random idea

    What if Necrozma can fuse with all the UBs?

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Imagine how cool Celesteela would look.

      I found this unlikely thought, UBs don’t have nearly as much relevance as Sol and luna

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Fusing would probs squish poor Kartana to death

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Nuuuu, fusion are supposed to make weak Pokemon stronger not kill them D:

        • EarthenWarrior

          Good, I want to chuck them into a furnace or let them be soaked til they melt

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Just because they absolutely destroy you 😁

          • EarthenWarrior

            No shit these stupid things has stupidly high attack, plenty of things are killed by it

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Because that the point

            Literally

    • Shady

      I would love this idea …….but I have better idea Wat if he can absorb Solgaleo and Lunala when he attache them can u fell how evil was that Muhahahaaaaaa.

  • TCRowlet

    https://twitter.com/TAHK0/status/872112012678922241

    This is a pretty cool easter egg

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Johto confirm

  • Sunny Mahmud

    Just a question for those who own one, but has anyone noted how long the Switch Battery life lasts if playing a game like Shovel Knight, or Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero? Just curious as I plan to get a good number of Indies on it as I like playing indies on the go mostly.

    • ShinyXatu

      You could probably get to about 5-6 hours easily with games like that, if not more. They’re not super intensive.

      • Sunny Mahmud

        Exactly my point. Every site I see is only saying battery life for games like Breath of the Wild or Mario Kart (not that I mind, I’d play those too in portable mode) but I like variety with games, and getting indies like say Stardew Valley seems fun on the go for the Switch, but no one shows the battery life of it with indies.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I mean

      It’s not like Sinnoh’s been skipped

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Tbh, for the most part the order was >Main games > Third version > Remakes iirc

      • ???
        RS > FRLG > Emerald
        XY > ORAS > nothing

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Diamond > Platinum > Soul Silver

          White > White 2 > Nothing

          • thats the only exception

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            There is no ‘exception’ because there’s no pattern to begin with

  • Shady

    Did anybody notice those Necrozma’s triangles in Japanese logo. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1496764872728.jpg

  • Butter Geek

    All I wanna do… Is see you turn into… A MASQUERADE BAT! A MASQUERADE BAT!!!

    • Ultra Seraph

      YESH SOMEONE CAUGHT ON

  • Sunny Mahmud

    Is it wrong to think that maybe US and UM maybe the last proper Nintendo 3DS titles for this year, and we may see Generation 8 on the Switch. Just a hunch as this gen seems very Gen 5ish to me.

  • remember when they sorta kinda rapped for the anime opening

  • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

    Grrrrr! I need my happiness back I had it at the release, but now everything has settled down and now i feel worse

    • EarthenWarrior

      Do the opposite and get pissed off

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        I want to scream my frustration away

    • Ultra Seraph

      I AM HERE

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        Thank you

        What I really want is for my friend to freakin’ actually respond back to me cause I understand she doesn’t text much but come on you can’t just look at your messages to see if someone did!

        • Ultra Seraph

          I see 🙁

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            I just want to talk to her and she’s giving me the cold shoulder for no reason I just want to scream out yet nope allergies have left my voice null and void

          • Ultra Seraph

            I’ve had that sort of thing happen a few

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Yeah I think my worst problem I hate being ignored it gives a feeling of being inferior to the rest of the populace

          • Ultra Seraph

            Same

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Why sometimes I get real upset when I’m ignored here (like if no one comments on anything I do or say for a while)

          • I’ll just try and get noticed.

          • Butter Geek

            (can one of you change his profile pic?)

          • Ultra Seraph

            Bbu nuu…

  • Sunny Mahmud

    Ok so even though I just BARELY finished Pokemon Sun, I’m now thinking to trade it in when Ultra SUn comes, as I kinda am stuck with a Digital copy of Moon. But to me it seems like a smart move as I usually like to play one game as my main game and the other version as the rival game. SO I could use UltraSun now as my main game, and Moon as my rival game. Seems dumb, but unique to me lol

  • Shady

    I am sure I was play GS to the very end but Y I didn’t remember those Clifairys dancing around the rock?

  • Ultra Seraph

    Wow… the community is hating all over the 20 seconds or so of gameplay….
    I think this is the worst I’ve ever seen a Pokemon game recieved

    • EarthenWarrior

      They better plan their moves very carefully

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Or what? A butthurt whiner will winge about it online?

        There’s criticism, opinions, and then your meaningless drivel

        • Ultra Seraph

          And the entire comment section on the official Pokemon page

          We actually got a game this year… I wish people would stop dying over this

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            I love it just I hate the negativity going around it stole my hype and threw me into a worse mood

          • Ultra Seraph

            AGREED

    • Butter Geek

      I think it’s gonna be great

      • Ultra Seraph

        Agreed

    • Armaggedon16

      Yeah people are raging because it’s not on switch and because it’s ‘the same game’

      Honestly, why did anyone expect to get a Pokemon game on the switch the first year. Gf is always behind. It took them 2 years to put a game on 3ds.

      The same game thing makes sense.
      Like what does alternate story even mean..

      I’ll see more before judging

      • Ultra Seraph

        Exactly
        Though I am judging it to be great

        • Armaggedon16

          Of course it’s gonna be great.
          The third versions are always good, and SuMo themselves were pretty good.
          So they’ll be better than sumo

          • Ultra Seraph

            YAS

    • Im more mad about the reveal than the game itself. I know fucking nothing about this game. 5 minutes of a game no one cares about and 20 seconds near the end of like… nothing! Give us a trailer! Something!

      Also it’s on 3DS so there is NO technical improvement at all.

      On top of that, it is two games but its still a third version instead of a sequel apparently? Like.. what? What is it? The fact that no one can say if its a sequel or a third version shows how bad this reveal was.

    • Sunny Mahmud

      IDK, I seem indifferent. As I got SUn and Moon really late, and just starting Sun, I may get a bit burnt out, hence me planing to trade in my physical copy of Pokemon Sun now for UltraSun. If what they say is true, and its an alternate story, then playing UltraSun as my main game would make re-playing my digital copy of Pokemon Moon less tedious. In all, I’m curious, and hope its not like B2W2, imo my least favorite main title Pokemon games (yes, I said it, I am sorry).

      • Ultra Seraph

        Huh…

      • Ultron

        B2W2 was packed with content at least

        • Sunny Mahmud

          That I agree with. But tbh the story was lack luster compared to BW. TBH I do hope that if USUM are an alternate story of SM, they bump up the already good plot to an extent, but also add stuff that seemed….missing as I saw in the originals.

          • Ultron

            Yeah it definitely wasn’t as good as BW

    • TCRowlet

      I really want the games to be packed with content and I’ll be overjoyed to buy both games. But if they are the 4th pair of 3DS Pokemon games with no post-game, I hope they fail miserably. Hit ’em in the wallet and they’ll hopefully change.

      • Ultra Seraph

        I hope they’re good

        • TCRowlet

          Me too. But if they aren’t, the less sales the better.

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            But see, most people will buy the games before they find out about the post game.

          • TCRowlet

            This franchise gets away with so much because of the name brand.

    • Ultron

      Give us the freakin bf and I’ll shut up

      • Ultra Seraph

        Or better

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      These games have the possibility of being grand in content and that really excites me

      • Ultra Seraph

        Agreed

  • Golden_Flygon

    Something that’s interesting about Pokemon USUM is that we could have a somewhat similar structure in plot, but perhaps an entirely different story. I mean, it’s set in an alternate universe, so it could be drastically different in story.

  • Ultron

    If USUM are just a redone story why are they making two versions? They’ve never done that before

  • Wes

    So before I look through everyone’s thoughts I just want to make sure I’m on the same page. We’ve got uglier clothes, Pikachu infestation, Mimikyu forces the protag into mysterious illness, Solgaleo and Lunala are forced into their radiant sun/full moon phases, and everyone’s mad, right?

    • G̖̘o̸̗̮̩v̵̘̬ͅͅn͇ah͖̙͔̹͔ ̱̣̯

      sounds about right

    • I guess so.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Everything is right except the clothes part, they’re better and you know it

      😛

      • Wes

        I just don’t like them. I haven’t been a fan of the clothing since XY.

      • God no. Moon is so much better than this fake bitch. I dont care about the boy but this girl has nothing on the queen of alola.

      • Ultra Seraph

        I’m fine with the boi

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    Not sure why people are upset. We all know in our lifetime that we will likely get a DP remake. PLUS, in our lifetime we will see countless more new pokemon. So USUM are coming and may not introduce new pokemon… all this does is put off DP remakes and gen 8 to a later date. If you don’t want to spend money (like me if there’s no new pokkemon) on a game, then dont. But don’t claim that Nintendo doesn’t know what they’re doing. They’ve made questionable choices in the past, but as long as people keep buying the games, I would never call a game a mistake.

    • Ultron

      I don’t mind waiting on DP remakes if it means they might come to the switch

  • I get more hype from this awesome fucking theme song and I’m so mad they didnt keep it for the english version

    LISTEN TO IT. DAMN ITS GOOD

  • Sunny Mahmud

    Just curious, do you guys think they may still use trials, or if its in an alternate universe, they go back to gyms?

    • Butter Geek

      probably gyms

  • OG Bulba

    Haven’t been here in forever and only have time to type this but I’m hyped for GS but also did anyone see in the USUM trailer the bracelet he was wearing had black and white triangles

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Yay your back 😀

      • Oh god, we have the same pfp lol.

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          We’re going to get so confused…

      • OG Bulba

        I know I haven’t posted anything in like a year but I have been see what ppl talk about.

        Mostly stalking y’all 😶

    • Black and White remakes odkfiwejfig4kfewreg

      • OG Bulba

        I just wanted to start that

      • Ultron

        They should be left alone

    • D57

      I actually like the black bracelet more, looks cooler imo

      • OG Bulba

        Yeah me too

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    I, for one, am excited to explore this beautiful region again, possibly with new pokemon. I hope trials stay and the same captains are there, just hopefully the bad and good teams are more into nature corrupting/saving.

  • How are other places reacting? Is this like… Paper Splash anger?

    • Color Splash*

    • Ultra Seraph

      Pokemons twitter says all
      But parts of 4chan seem to even be reacting better..

    • Butter Geek

      maybe some people are judging usum by what it is, not by what it isn’t

    • Sunny Mahmud

      I assume you have entered an Alt dimension where there is a new Smash Bros. called Paper Smash? (Sorry, had to make the joke).

  • Armaggedon16

    Guys can we wait for actual info rather than judging be a small teaser?

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Yeah

    • Ultra Seraph

      I wish that would happen

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Tbf, a small trailer is enough because we can already see what the game is about and all that, but I still think that is too early to judge

    • Wes

      To be fair, it’s much more than the ORAS teaser was. We’ve got enough for some early judging.

      • Armaggedon16

        I don’t think so.
        Even if they are third versions they seem to be more different than platinum/emerald were.

      • At least we knew what those games were.

  • Ultron

    I wouldn’t be so disappointed​ if the fusion forms or whatever had good designs. I kinda feel like GF has lost their touch with designs, imo.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      This was literally BW2

  • D57

    Idk if anyone has mentioned this, but during the pokemon direct, the shelf that had pokemon games did not have diamond and pearl, gotta think this was done on purpose

  • TheMonster6893
    • Ultron

      Literally tho

      • TheMonster6893

        Like right? Lol

  • Butter Geek

    Solgaleo: Everybody says that the bat is so cool…
    Ultra Solgaleo: IM BATMAN!

    • Holy crap, already?

    • Butter Geek

      HOW CAN ANYBODY DRAW THIS IN 3 HOURS?

    • Ultron

      Not that I need DP remakes right away, but at least there was decent clothing in Sinnoh..and we couldn’t even change it

  • glauca

    US/UM is confirmed as 3DS exclusives. I guess I was wrong. It seems like we’ll have to wait longer for a true HD Pokemon title. Install base for the 3DS is larger, so I understand. The Switch needs a Pokemon title in the future to truly compete and be successful!

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      DP remakes could be the first Pokemon switch title maybe because we already had a remake on the 3ds

      • Sunny Mahmud

        Maybe for Gen 8? Just a hunch.

    • D57

      However, a 4chan post (from May 29th) stated the next games would be Ultra Sun and Moon and also stated a 3rd game “Eclipse” to be coming to the switch

      • WHY THE FUCK

      • Sunny Mahmud

        Link to said post pls?

        • D57
          • Sunny Mahmud

            Hmm it seems like Pokken and USUM, but let’s see.

          • If thisis real and I buy Ultra Sun or Moon when I could’ve waited for Switch I’m going to lose my shit

          • Butter Geek

            what if eclipse is the third part os the sun an moon story?

          • D57

            Yea it would be annoying, but I guess on a positive note it would show they want to have pokemon on the switch and this is a way to test it while still securing 3ds sales. If it works out we can probably expect D/P remakes on the switch which in the long run may be best

          • TheNintendoChip

            Seems like a load of confirmation bias.
            Clearly, “Sun”, “Moon”, and “Ultra” are important words now, so it makes sense that they’d be used again. We can’t forget that they also mentioned “Eclipse” as a possible word (which makes sense, because of sun/moon). They even mention that the games could be “Eclipse Sun”, “Eclipse Moon”, and “Ultra Eclipse”. That information is wrong. Could it be that they purposefully included false information? Sure but that kind of seems like an ad hoc argument now. Also note that they incorrectly gave the release dates and announcement date.
            Just be careful of seeing information that may have, by chance, happened to be true and assuming that the rest is true as well.

          • D57

            Of course we cannot assume this to be true, but they got the name right or at least closer than most, also the fact that the press release accidentally had Switch TBA release date might mean someone got confused and added that since they knew eclipse would be on the switch. Could of just been an accident but you never know.

      • D57

        April 29th btw not May my bad

  • Sunny Mahmud

    Excuse me, but man, even the USUM MC has better luck at finding a Nintendo Switch then most. Also #RiPWiiU 2013-2017.

    https://twitter.com/PhillyBeatzU/status/872139494501253120

  • TCRowlet

    I really don’t think these games deserve any hate at the current moment. We know what they’re intended to be, an Emerald/Platinum 3rd version…or in this case versions. People adore those games. The real hope is hinging on the content these games will provide. And it being on 3DS is fine. I love the Switch, but before the Switch the 3DS was my favorite Nintendo system. It’s obviously not a dead system. I would’ve preferred it on the Switch admittedly, but the games don’t deserve hate for that reason.

    • People are hating on it because NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE HELL THESE GAMES ARE

      People wanted two things. Either Stars or DP remakes.

      THEN THEY GIVE US STARS BUT JUST KIDDING ITS TWO GAMES AND THEY ARE AN ENHANCED VERSION INSTEAD OF SEQUELS OR MAYBE THEY ARE SEQUELS… I DONT KNOW FUCK YOU HERE IS A FIGHTING GAME

      • TCRowlet

        Stars was always rumored to be a 3rd version of Sun and Moon tho, an enhanced version on Switch. These are the enhanced versions, only they are on 3DS.

      • Armaggedon16

        Stars?
        Isn’t this exactly what stars would be?

        • I dont know would it? I dont know what these games are

          • TCRowlet

            These games are Emerald/Platinum for Alola. It’s what Stars was rumored to be, a 3rd version. The trailer even states it’s an alterate take on the Sun and Moon story.

          • Is it? Then why are there two games other than to make money?

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            To make money is the only reason they need though?

            Star they’re a business not a fairy godmother

          • TCRowlet

            Probably because like BW2, the stories of Sun and Moon kind of dictate there needing to be 2 versions. Lillie didn’t have 2 Cosmog, she had one.

          • Armaggedon16

            They’re the third version that we always got,the third versions you wanted with Z,the third version you were hyping up anf callings stars split into two to make more money…

    • OG Bulba

      I know I’m with you I’m waiting to see whats new to really say anything I’m just hype for the games. Also I am disappointed they won’t be on the Switch because I could just imagine how much stuff the can put on it I mean look how big BotW was so just think how many regions they could of put in one game

  • Butter Geek

    Pink Diamond was actually shattered by Game Freak along with her pearl

  • TheMonster6893

    I think the thing I’m most disappointed a out is the idea that they dropped 3rd versions specifically because they weren’t necessary anymore (if ever) and NOW they choose to go back to that kind of game? I would much prefer a game with an original story. I really like Alola Sonic don’t mind going back, but I’d rather play something new than just rehash something I’ve done before.

  • Why would you ever play G/S over HGSS though you can play it on the 3ds. Put it on Switch

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      GSC will be cheaper and easier to buy now because HGSS is either 7 or 6 depending on where you live

    • TCRowlet

      I’ve actually been playing through HG xD

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Tbh all the salt reminds me of BW2

  • Butter Geek

    which one would you prefer:
    1 USUM being a sequel with everybody grown up, with legendary forms as only new pokemon
    2 USUM being a remake with many changes (kukui and guzma switching roles, lillie and gladion switching roles) with new alolan forms and pokemon

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I’d prefer development over ransom bullshit switches tbh

    • Armaggedon16

      SEQUEL. THIRD VERSIONS SHOULD DIE.

    • TheNintendoChip

      I don’t care much for the new formes and all that jazz, but I’d prefer it to be a sequel more than anything.

    • 111111111111111111111111111111111111111
      2 is so unnecessary

      • Butter Geek

        But 2 is probably what we’ll get. And I think it could actually be very fun.

        • but WHYYYY

          like.. why?? what does that add?

          • Butter Geek

            …new mons and alola forms.

          • No I mean switching characters. What is the point?

          • Butter Geek

            Having fun. And getting to know Gladion or Lusamine or Wicke or Plumeria, or any of the “mysterious” group of characters.

          • TCRowlet

            Didn’t you love Platinum? What do you mean what does it add?

          • ?????????
            Platinum didnt make Cyrus the professor and Rowan the evil leader. It fixed the game, came out TWO years after DP so it makes more sense to have a new version, at least more than 8 months. Battle Frontier, better dex, better pacing, better battles, better story, everything was better but it was ONE GAME.

            What the hell is this?

        • Armaggedon16

          Seriously though? An year after the original you give us an enhanced version.
          People shit on cod but this is wayy worse

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          It’s not what we’ll ‘probably get’ though? Most characters will likely maintain the roles, the story will just likely change due to Necrozma

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Character development please

    • TCRowlet

      2 is what everyone was so hyped about in Stars.

      I just want a game with post-game content tbh.

  • Am I the only one that’s excited for Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon? I know a lot of people in the official Pokemon YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook feeds as well as on Serebii are really salty about this because it wasn’t a game for the Switch or it wasn’t Diamond and Pearl Remakes. So, I would like opinions on here from the community. I think people are confused because Junichi Masuda said it would be an “alternative storyline in the same world as Sun and Moon” thinking that it’s just going to be a third version like Platinum/Emerald. What he said doesn’t mean that it can’t still be a sequel like B2/W2, just taking place in Alola. After all, we have Necrozma fusing with Solgaleo and Lunala much like Black and White Kyurem in B2/W2.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      When are the people on serebii not salty lol

      Also I’m hyped asf

    • TheNintendoChip

      I think it’s specifically the use of “alternative” that’s throwing people off. If it were a sequel, then why not use “new” or “brand new” instead?

      • I am a little bit confused still but feel that this will be a lot different from Sun and Moon from what I saw in the 20 seconds of footage in the trailer, there were some little details here and there that I could spot. I think that these games have the potential to be just as great as any other main series title. People just need to give it some time. I’m sure we’ll get more clarity from either E3 or CoroCoro and then some people who were salty will start to get happy again. At least I hope that is the case.

        • TheNintendoChip

          Exactly. Not enough has really been shown to declare that they’re going to be bad or anything. For instance, imagine if Platinum had been revealed but only showing the very minor enhancements (towns, gyms, etc.), but nothing of the entirely new distortion world and Giratina Origin Forme storyline. You’d think that the games would be quite lacking, right? We could be experiencing something similar here.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      I’m excited for it, this game could add new features, better post game and new areas and Pokemons making it a great game!

      • I saw a lot of things changed around in Alola in the small bit of footage that we received, I think that this also potential to be a great game, I just think people need to give it a chance. After all, we only saw 20 seconds of footage. We barely know anything about the games. I hate it when people jump to conclusions thinking that the games are going to be terrible when we barely know anything! It really grinds my Klinks if you know what I mean. Lol.

  • Listen guys.. I want either
    One enhanced port
    One Sequel
    Two sequel games.
    NOT TWO ENHANCED PORTS

    the more i think about it the more i think about it. E3 needs to reveal actual information

    • TCRowlet

      It’s the same thing tho, just different Pokemon.

      • Butter Geek

        We don’t know yet.

        • TCRowlet

          I’m talking about version differences.

      • Butter Geek

        *new pokemon

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I mean why does the number of enhancements matter? If you only buy one, you only get one anyway.

      Also they’re not ports?

      • Because the third version is supposed to tie them together. You dont see Ultra Gold or Ultra Silver. Its one game. But this is so clearly a cash grab

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Star why wouldn’t they grab cash? They’re a business ffs

          • I dont know maybe because they dont want to piss off the fans that give them money?

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Lol they’re going to get money anyway

            You’re all bitching anyway and you’ll all end up buying at least one version anyway 🤣

          • Armaggedon16

            That’s true.
            That lunala looks cool :l
            And liked the original sumo a lot :/

          • I think I might skip it unless they show what it is and have some things worth paying 40 dollars for

          • Ultra Seraph

            See?

        • TCRowlet

          Look at the stories tho. We’re gonna go through the Nebby in the bag thing again, Lillie had 2 Nebbys?

          • Change the story then! Or make it a sequel

          • TCRowlet

            But this is what Stars was always rumored to be lol.

          • Ultra Seraph

            But they’re doing that in these games?

          • HOW DO WE KNOW? THEY DIDNT TELL US ANYTHING?

            Thats my point. This reveal trailer is terrible. We dont know what this is so of course I’m disappointed.

          • TCRowlet

            They did. They said it’s an alternate take on Sun and Moon’s story.

          • So whats the point of making it two versions????

          • TCRowlet

            I’ve already explained this.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            $$$$

          • TCRowlet

            You aren’t forced to buy both versions. It’s going to be the same story in both versions, but feature different Pokemon, like the majority of Pokemon games.

          • Ultra Seraph

            This

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Because it’s a teaser not a trailer

    • Armaggedon16

      If it was an enhanced port on the switch I would take it.
      But when it’s an year after the original you give us the same thing it should not be acceptable.

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Pokémon’s being doing this shit for years lol

        Why people only bitching about it now?

        • Armaggedon16

          Cuz they stopped.

          Gen V had sequels.
          Gen VI had nothing

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            And? Most people didn’t mind before Gen V and some were actually disappointed by the lack of Grey and Z

          • Armaggedon16

            I don’t care about most people.
            I loved b2w2, I wanted X2y2,and I wanted sumo 2

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Too bad kiddo you don’t always get what you want

      • Exactly. This is really shitty of them to do this. It almost feels like they are intentionally leaving out features so they can put them in the new version

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Ports? And this seems like an hybrid between the first and the third option

  • TCRowlet

    I wonder if Ryuki will play more a role in this game. He was such an intriguing challenger.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I think he’s a teaser for the next region tbh 😡

      • TCRowlet

        That’d be cool

  • Armaggedon16

    Even if I’m disappointed and the reception is negative, these games are probably gonna be way better than any other pokemon 3ds game.

    • Ultra Seraph

      AGREED!!
      Or any for a while imo

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Why are yall bitching about cash grabs and enhancements now? They’ve been doing it for years lol

    • Ultra Seraph

      Because the Pokemon fanbase is the pokemon fanbase
      I’m just hyped

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        And we make fun of the sonic fandom lol

        • Ultra Seraph

          I mean they’re a special type of bad

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      It practically started since Crystal

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Actually its been happening since Blue in Japan

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Even sooner…

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Platinum: one of the most liked games in the series, held as a major improvement over Diamond and Pearl, etc

    USUM: Fucken cash grab this is immoral wrrrry

    • Ultra Seraph

      It’s honestly hilarious XD
      And to think emerald gets similar reaction

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Emerald is literally even more similar to its base game than Platinum and people still sick its digital dick

        • Ultra Seraph

          I’ll be honest, I’m a nostalgic for gen 3 but even I can see the stupidity of it
          USUM are the most hype I’ve been for a Pokemon game in years and I refuse to think that they’ll be anything but amazing

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            They’ll be objectively ‘good’ games anyway, all Pokémon games have been.

          • Ultra Seraph

            And a third version of a game that had a rather decent first game would be even better
            I mean, SM were better than vanilla DP right?

    • Its two games a year after the original came out and they are showing nothing to prove us otherwise.

      They stopped doing that third version stuff too. Platinum was fine because Diamond and Pearl was SO flawed. It also added SO MUCH CONTENT its fine and it was a single game so you didnt have to buy two of them. But they stopped and we got B2W2 which was an entirely new game. As much as I dont like the story, that game is amazing

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        SuMo are flawed too though?

        And third versions probably stopped because they were rushed. They said they wanted to give DS a last huzzah and thus BW2 over Gray, and Z could’ve delayed the anniversary.

        And ffs star, trading is easier than ever. No ones forcing you to buy both games, and you’ve seen twenty seconds of it. We don’t know Jack shit about how much content is being added

    • TCRowlet

      Honestly scratching my head over this. Emerald and Platinum are beloved. And if USUM has the content those 2 games provided, I’ll be overjoyed.

      • Ultra Seraph

        Exactly

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      The hate is because people were expecting a remake of one of the most liked games in the series that held as a major improvement over Diamond and Pearl

  • Wes

    So was that Wingull following the protag or did it just happen to make every turn he did when he did it…?

  • Ultra Seraph

    Ya know I was so hyped for these games and they actually cheered me up even though I felt like actual shit…..
    So much for that..

  • Monkeyfuzz

    Necrozmaleomoniger Zero looks pretty cool I guess. Necrozmas Lunaala projection or whatever not so much.
    I’ve only ever bought one ‘3rd game’ and that was white 2. My feeling for this is we’re gonna need a significant amount to justify it. At least 40 new ‘mon and/or alolan forms would be nice but I’ll not get my hopes up. Probably won’t be new Megas. New Z-moves will likely be underwhelming. Still ,like a mug I’ll probably buy it.

  • I’m really excited to get Gold and Silver for Virtual Console as I never owned them for the Game Boy. I had Crystal though. Can’t wait. Pretty stoked. Also excited for US/UM.

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Friendly reminder that Misdreavus, Murkrow, Stunky and Glameow were all absent in Platinum so I guess it’s a cash grab guys now

  • Wes

    Building off my last comment, I hope the walking animations for each Pokemon are put to use in USUM. That would redeem every negative observation I’ve seen so far.

    • TCRowlet

      I honestly doubt that’ll happen. Maybe when Pokemon comes to the Switch.

      • Wes

        Why were they in SM then? It just doesn’t make sense to me. Wouldn’t they redo the models when they make the move to the Switch?

        • TCRowlet

          Why were the walking sprites in BW2? It’d be awesome to see, I just have my doubts. Maybe they were testing it, but due to 3DS limitations they couldn’t implement it as they wanted.

          • for the entra link and because they were cut at the last minute. It had basically nothing to do with system limitations

          • TCRowlet

            Only theorizing.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Sad thing is the minute we see walking Pokémon or any other popular feature literally at least half the people complaining will suddenly be praising the game to hell and back

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        Maybe because opinions change?

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          I’m not saying opinions don’t change (I used to hate Incineroar) it’s just the hypocrisy of people saying all this stuff until we see more of the game

          If it comes out and it’s a total copy cash grab yeah be mad you’re entitled to it

          But we really know Jack shit about it rn

  • Armaggedon16

    So from what i can tell the main reasons why people are hating on these games are :

    a) not for switch
    Which is sorta stupid considering it’s the first year of tge switch and Nintendo did release the new 3ds

    b) not sinnoh/sequels
    Which I agree with.

    c) unclear as to what they are.
    If they are third versions then maybe highlight the new features first. Make it clear what alternate story is. I’m confused if we are gonna get new Pokemon or not.

    • TCRowlet

      I think they made it perfectly clear though. Necrozma is playing a role, new totems and Z moves were hinted at, they outright said it’s an alternate take on the story of Sun and Moon. It’s an enhanced version.

    • This was a terrible reveal “trailer”

      I wanna know what they were thinking.

      “Ok ok so like..we will show Pokken for 5 minutes… then 20 seconds of a game that isnt stars or DPPt. AND WE’LL EXPLAIN NOTHING HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH WE GON BE MILLIONAIRS

      • TCRowlet

        This is Stars. Just it’s coming out on 3DS, not Switch.

        • And its two games for literally no reason.

          Whats the point?

          • TCRowlet

            Lol no reason. The reason has been explained to you numerous times and you refuse to accept it. Why does 2 games bother you so much? Both games are going to have the same enhanced story. The Pokemon featured are going to be different lol.

          • https://68.media.tumblr.com/398edfea0908677c6e4c1c0675c713f6/tumblr_nqf9qxACce1qcnz4oo1_540.gif

            There. Is. No. Reason. For. It. It’s literally a cash grab. Face it, people buy both versions.

            Its an enhanced port except nothing is enhanced. Its on the 3DS so the tech is the exact same. God damn I dont even hate these games. They are just so pointless it baffles me Game Freak thought that this reveal would be a good idea.

          • TCRowlet

            Absolutely nothing you said made sense. Nothing.

            No reason for it. Yet you just stated the reason in your very next sentence. People buy both versions, exactly! 2 versions has been proven to sell more, because there are those people that go and buy both.

            “It’s an enhanced port except nothing is enhanced.”
            – Did you watch the same trailer I did? Necrozma is playing a role in the story, Lycanroc is hinted at being a totem, new potential Z moves. This is literally what Emerald and Platinum did.

            “It’s on the 3DS so the tech is the exact same.”
            – So Emerald and Platinum weren’t enhanced versions? By this logic, they aren’t.

          • TCRowlet

            I feel like I’m being too harsh, but your responses are mind boggling :S

          • Emerald and Platinum arent even relevant why do you keep bringing it up? We are post B2W2 at this point. Third versions that arent a Z version are a hard sell so the fact that we get nothing (Necrozma and totems woooooooaaahh gotta drop 40 bucks on this) is pathetic.

            Making two versions for an enhanced port a year after release is anti-consumer. Simple as that.

          • TCRowlet

            Emerald and Platinum are relevant because they are the same concept as these games LOLOLOL.

          • No theyre not. Pokemon can do sequels now and the gaming land landscape has changed. Doing third versions split into two games is anti consumer. If you want two games, make them sequels.

          • TCRowlet

            They are the same concept. What you just said is what you want them to be. They are all enhanced versions.

          • ???? Do you WANT to be sold two of the identical game?

          • TCRowlet

            That is LITERALLY what Pokemon has done for over 20 years LMFAO. I’m not being forced to buy both! xD

          • but now youre buying it 4 times??

            ??????

          • PercyEspeon

            tbh, the two versions of each game (Red blue, etc. etc.) have always been the same game except slight changes because of legendary and exclusive Pokemon and what not.
            So to get mad at this is a bit of a stretch considering Pokemon’s history

          • im sorry for butting in but isn’t that literally what Pokemon has been doing since the very beginning? two versions tend to sell more, and give an actual incentive to trade…

          • I can tolerate it when they are new games like BW/B2W2 but two “enhanced” ports? Youre buying it 4 times now?

          • who said i’m buying it four times. most people just buy one version, and we barely know if its gonna be an enhanced port or more than that. your logic actually baffles me lol

      • Wes

        The ORAS teaser was more informative tbh.

        • Seriously. It amazes me that the ORAS trailer is being used as a positive example for revealing a game. I would take some box art with intriguing legendaries where we actually understand exactly what it is.

        • Armaggedon16

          That’s different.
          It’s ruby Sapphire but in 3d. And people were begging for hoenn at that time

      • Armaggedon16

        I agree.
        I was so excited then i got disappointed when i saw pokken, then hyped again,then just confused as too what it was.

        • There shouldnt be confusion on if its a sequel or third version

    • Exactly. It’s one of those three reasons or all three. You can never win with some people in this fandom, I tell you. I for one am excited about Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.

    • PercyEspeon

      I thought it was pretty clear that it looks to me more like a sequel because of the route scene where it looks similar yet different like time passed but *shrugs*
      Regardless if it is or isn’t, we don’t know yet so there’s not use arguing about all of this until we truly know.

      • Pokemania88

        OMG YOUR BACK. I MISSED YOU PERCYYYY

        • PercyEspeon

          Aww thanks <3
          I just decided to see what the jungle is up to with this announcement, don't know how much I'll be on because life and finishing up college 🙂

          • Pokemania88

            yup just great to see you.

      • Butter Geek

        I just realised how Genius your name is.

        • PercyEspeon

          Even I don’t know of its genius I guess xD
          I just use my alias and my fav Pokemon

      • Hey percyyyyyyy

  • Ultra Seraph

    EARLOBES

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Earlobes?

      • Ultra Seraph

        I dunno I’m posting something not controversial

        • Butter Geek

          Well, I think they are controversial!

        • EarthenWarrior

          I got a zit under mine, it’s driving me nuts

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      ….(?)

  • Monkeyfuzz

    I wonder if they’ll improve the Zygarde stuff at all?

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Oh god please

      If they don’t it’s something I’ll probs criticise forever

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Like, either build it properly now or remove it completely and put something good in its place. Just have us find a completed cube for the latter option.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Tbh I just want them to give Zygarde Complete better stats

          Just give it 720 so it’s as strong as Arceus and put its new 12ish points into Sp.Attack or Speed

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I want it to have a reason for being other than some scientists from Kalos are on holiday.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I think they were trying to imply it’d there because Ultra Beasts and what Aether is doing? But it’s poorly implied if it’s being implied at all

          • Monkeyfuzz

            It’s barely there and frankly there is no consequence to not collecting it so it has no impact on the rest of the game whatsoever.

    • no they wont whats a zygarde

      • Monkeyfuzz

        It’s that squishy green thing than becomes hexagons and stuff.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Please let it be more than a fetch quest please

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Some proper story elements would be nice. Heck link it to the Ultra Beasts somehow if you can just do something better with it GameFreak.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Tbh even if Zygarde got a completely separate but good sub plot I’d be down

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            Or something like that for the post game, it has so much potential

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Yes, it would be better than, ‘hey look, here’s a thing for you to collect every now and then for no particular reason’.

  • Wes

    I saw a post speculating that Necrozma is using Solgaleo/Lunala as a light source to amplify it’s power since it’s a prism. That would be an interesting concept. A parasitic legendary.

    • EarthenWarrior

      I was going for a concept of a Necrozma infection

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Tbh that sounds really cool and makes sense 😮

      I’m thinking it’ll probably more of a true symbiote though, seeing as it probably also powers them up

      I’m excited either way!

      • Wes

        I can just imagine being powered up for too long could harm the host. There’s no proof of that, but it would be an interesting plot point if they’re being forced into their radiant sun/full moon phases.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          What if Necrozma forces them into their phases to get back to Ultra Space? In game they only go into their phases when they’re using their signature attacks, opening a portal, and stabilising ultra Space for non-natives (at least I think that’s what the legend was doing when it couldn’t move in Ultra Space, because you and Lillie don’t start to blink in and out of existence until after it has to move)

  • EarthenWarrior

    Ok going out on a limb
    You can put chunks of Necrozma (Ultra Shards) into your Z-Ring and specific Pokemon can be infused with Necrozma energy causing them to be enveloped with Ultra Armor
    Solgaleo and Lunala
    Lycanroc
    Togedemaru
    Mimikyu

    • Butter Geek

      Actually makes sense. Probably Ultra Beasts too. And Pikachu.

    • Rockcrawdaunt

      Probs just the legends

      • EarthenWarrior

        Totems too?
        I just imagined Lycanroc with long black spikes

        • Rockcrawdaunt

          As cool as that would be, it would be hard to implement yet another feature in the next gen. They already dropped megas like a bad habit, I can’t see them somehow balancing megas, z moves, ultra shards, etc. all in the next gen. They already cant do it in this gen.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Actually tbh I think Megas were handled quite well in the post game of SuMo, with a lot of trainers incorporating it into the battle tree

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Yeah but saving it for post game (while allowing space for z moves) made it feel like an afterthought, plus no new ones just feels like the whole inclusion was obligatory.

          • Wes

            I think there should just be one mega stone that any Pokemon capable of mega evolution can utilize. You can only use one in battle anyway, and it would free up tons of bag space, so it’s quite practical.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Could be an interesting way of making Totems harder

          But keep in mind the pieces of Necrozma on Solgaleo and Lunala appear to be the same size as when they’re together as Necrozma

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Doubt it tbh because Mimikyu us seen extending its arms and attacking, implying that cutscene is a totem opening cutscene or a Z-Move

      • EarthenWarrior

        I said Totem and you said it wasn’t because of the location

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Never said it couldn’t be a totem

          Said it wasn’t guaranteed a totem and that i personally don’t think it is one, but I still find it more likely than the Necrozma Armour due to how big Necrozma is compared to Mimikyu

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        Z-Moves have a special background, that background didn’t seem like one

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Idk it’s a dark forest area and I think imo that’d fit it perfectly

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            Or maybe they don’t use a special background this time and just use the background you’re currently in

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I’d like that tbh

    • Ultra Seraph

      Hey Earthen, do you agree that’s what the weird crystal at the end was?

      • EarthenWarrior

        That’s where I got the idea from stupid
        I rewatched that trailer like 30 times to soak up everything
        And it was black crystally shard
        It has to be either a broken piece of it….or a baby

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          The shard itself is more Creamy-beige: the Z-Ring is black tho

        • Ultra Seraph

          I agree, 100 percent
          I REFUSE to believe this will be a bad game

        • MenacingCascoon

          Maybe at the beginning instead of Tapu Koko saving everyone. Necrozma saves them. And since Koko doesnt give the crystal, Necrozma break off a piece of himself to share.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Taking ‘there’s enough of me to go around’ too seriously :p

    • Wes

      Further powering-up Mimikyu is the worst thing they could do. I sincerely hope you’re wrong on that front.

      • Ultra Seraph

        It’s honestly probably a Z move its getting

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    So I find it interesting that GF was still able to baffle us with yet another change to the formula. For so long it was two games + a third years later.

    Then Gen V gave us sequels, something unprecedented in pokemon.

    People thought gen VI would be getting Z or X2Y2, we got neither–further changing the formula.

    Gen VII showed up instead and now instead of sequels or a third game, we have an alternate story. I’m not sure what else they could do in the future besides going back to a third game to surprise fans again.

    BUT ANYWAYS, KEEP THE HYPE GOING! This should be just like last night– speculative, hyped, and energetic. We still know sooooo little. We know more than last night, but the door is wide open for speculation.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I think it’s going to be a third version that serves as a sort of sequel in a sense? As in well get more character development and stuff

    • Monkeyfuzz

      It could take place in the distant Future or a time Long past.

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        Yeah, we have no idea! 🙂

        • Butter Geek

          Let’s hope It’s future

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      I think it’s a hybrid between a third version and a sequel, and that’s cool

  • Ultra Seraph

    Tbh I see this as being a happy medium between Platinum and BW2 but on a game I adored
    Honestly this might end up becoming a favorite of mine

    • EarthenWarrior

      I just need more info
      I’m sorta calming down and slightly more levelheaded

      I just harbor intense dislike for Sun and Moon and they better fix it up

      • Ultra Seraph

        You oughta!

    • I want it to be good but all I see is gamefreak seeing what shit they can get away with. This trailer was just fucking awful.

  • Pokemania88

    So I don’t know what to think honestly. I love the idea but a little scared that the games are gonna be too similar to Sun and Moon. But I also have a lot of confidence that GF wouldn’t just copy and paste the games.

    Anyways, REALLY hoping for an expanded post game. Sun and Moon got boring real quick, haven’t played the games in forever because of the lack of things to do after the main story. Give me some umph to the story and give me second region, battle frontier or gyms to battle in the post game and I’ll be happy.

    • Ultra Seraph

      Remember, Emerald and Platinum were copy pasted for the most part and this already looks different

      • Pokemania88

        yup

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Does anyone know if the Pikachu based area is an area already in the games or not?

    • Butter Geek

      I don’t think so.

    • Pokemania88

      no it’s not. It looks like a Pikachu island or something.

      • Butter Geek

        With an Alolan Raichu Totem!

        • Pokemania88

          That would be so cool!!

          • Butter Geek

            Right?

  • Butter Geek

    What if Ultra Sun and Moon were Ultra Hard? Imagine 8 gyms and 8 totems and then 8 Necrozma fused Totems (Earthen’s idea). It would be challenging and It could be very creative!

    • Luigi301

      lol good idea but would it be hard? gyms arent too hard and trials were not hard at all

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Tbh some Totems were quite hard for a Pokémon game at least 😡

        • Lurantis actually took some effort and I loved it

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Lurantis would’ve bet me if Raichu didn’t get a clutch survival

            Salazzle would of been harder if Wishiwashi and the Waterium weren’t available right before it

          • EarthenWarrior

            I just Fire Fanged it to death

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Wishiwashi And its stupid Alomomomola

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    So if we are getting new pokemon (just speculation okay???), what pokemon do you feel were missing and should be implemented?

    Ice types (at least two more lines please)
    Dark types (same as for ice)
    Fossils (I thought island fossils could have been sooo cool)
    More three stagers please.
    I wish there were more pokemon like Turtonator, which reminded me of pokemon like Tropius and Druddigon, (similar to Magmar and Electabuzz). High leveled, one stage pokemon who dont need an evolution and could maybe get a prevo.

    Instead, we got pokemon like Komala, Bruxish, etc. that got one stage but didnt go anywhere. These pokemon remind me more of pokemon like Farfetch’d and Dunsparce and Quilfish that have one stage and don’t go anywhere yet everyone wants them too.

    Thoughts?

    • Luigi301

      tbh more pokemon = the new forms (necrozma armor whatever)
      and because of gs on vc my bet would be alolan johto pokemon (not very exciting tho)

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        But see you have no idea. And that doesnt answer my question which had nothing to do with forms.

        • Luigi301

          uh… i know i have no idea. this is what i believe is meant. you asked for thoughts didnt you?

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            “what pokemon do you feel were missing and should be implemented?”

          • Luigi301

            ok to answer your question, i think a bunch of the one stage only pokemon. i would also love to see an abundance of the new pokemon in USM because 5% chance for the majority of alolan pokemon was ridiculous. but again, they said new pokemon that werent in sm, i took that as the new forms we saw in the trailer and possible alolan johtos because of the fact that gs are coming to vc and are bank compatible. I dont see any new pokemon. Did any other pokemon game add new pokemon like evolutions in between? as in, did bw2 add anything to existing bw pokemon besides the forms?

    • Wes

      I just want more Ghosts. Even if they’re Alolan forms.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I want to venture further into the volcanic land, perhaps there we would find some new Fossils.

      • Wes

        Lemme just jump into the volcano and end this trailer-induced suffering.

    • EarthenWarrior

      JUST GIVE MY MY GROUND/FIGHTING TYPE FOR FUCKS SAKE

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        You’ll get it some day

        And don’t overhyped it for yourself, you might hate the first Ground/Fighting

        • EarthenWarrior

          Don’t you think I haven’t thought about it
          It still has a scary amount of weaknesses and if not stated perfectly it will just be worse off

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Yeah flying types laugh at it.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Water, grass, ice, psychic, flying and fairy………
            But I don’t care

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Thats a lot of really prominent types too. Almost everybody has a water type, and an energy ball somewhere in their party. Psychic is everywhere, Fairy has only gotten bigger and badder, and ice and flying hang out on teams more often than not. Sorry dude. That’s probs why it doesnt exist yet.

    • MenacingCascoon

      Def more and better Ice types.

      • MenacingCascoon

        Also more Fairy types. I would love too see more fairy types. And their type combos. Also I generally just want more pokemon wth 3 stage evos, I know this is weird, but I would like that.
        More Megas too with type changes. Like Water Fairy Milotic or Dragon Steel druddigon

        • EarthenWarrior

          *Foaming at the mouth*

        • Luigi301

          do we have an electric fairy that isnt tapu koko yet? my 3 favorite types are psychic and electric as the older ones with fairy being added because it has some similarities with psychic. i would like to see more combinations with these. also still waiting for an electric fire starter

          • MenacingCascoon

            Yea thats more what I mean unique combinations.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Dedenne

          • Luigi301

            ah yes. dedenne. i didnt do that fairy tourney way back when but i do remember dedenne was used a lot

        • Monkeyfuzz

          IMO Water/Dragon Milotic has always made more sense. I just want my Mega Infernape but I know if it happens at all it won’t be until Warp Diamond and Pearl.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      We need less stand alone Pokemons, and more ice types that are actually good

    • PercyEspeon

      I agree with this especially with the dark types and fossils.
      And less stand alones since, while I love some of them, I like playing with ones that evolve and get stronger (kind of part of my narrative of them changing like I am I guess)

  • PercyEspeon

    My view:
    Really excited and I’m definitely gonna be in a speculative mood until these games are in my hands.
    I am leaning towards sequel based on that route and the characters looking slightly different, but I doubt it’s just a ‘third version’. If it is a alternative story, that means it’s a different retelling and it’s not gonna be the same as SM so I think they will be worth playing because of that different story.
    It’s kind of like ORAS where some details and things were changed to make a new story, except maybe they’ll change even more.
    (And honestly I so want a sequel because that Gladion art that was from the night before makes me want it so much)

    • Shady

      Hey welcome back.

  • zess

    I hope that guy finishes his fossil pokemon park.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Clever girl….

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      It must be there for a reason! I’d love to see more Pokémon in the open!

      • zess

        I also hope they open up the golf course I was I bit annoyed that I couldn’t enter it.

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Yes please, it’s stupid not allowing the entrance to a place that takes up ¼ of the island

    • Nintendalek42

      If we actually get new pokémon (don’t wanna build my hopes up too much for that), they need to correct their crime of never having alolan fossil pokémon. Never forgive, never forget

      • zess

        Hawaii isn’t really known for fossils seeing as it’s a volcanic island it makes sense.

        • Nintendalek42

          NO. I’ve had this debate at least a dozen times before so I’m not going to go into specifics but… THAT’S NOT A BLEEDING VALID EXCUSE. a)there are a bunch of cool subfossil species b) When tf has GF ever cared about valid biogeograpgy/geology before
          These asses don’t deserve excuses being made for denying themselves so many creative options , and removing the most excting part of a generation for me.

          Really sorry if I come off as agressive but as I’ve said I’ve had this debate so many times over and I’m sick of people letting GF get away with their usual bullsh*t decisions.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Calm down

            1) It’s just a game

            2) They’ve skipped fossils before

          • Nintendalek42

            a) This is an issue I take very much to heart so no, I don’t see the need to calm down :p . No point in throwing an empty phrase like “it’s just a game” at me, me being angry about this doesn’t in any way indicate I don’t realise that? Does this seriously make it sound like it’s a serious life issue to me? Fact is if I see a mention of fossils and SM I’m bound to think of my most major disappointment with the games, and I’m perfectly entitled to express my opionion, no?
            Again I have no intention of making anyone feel attacked at all, this is just literally the one thing that majorly pisses me off about these games.

            b) Yeah, in gen II that was basically gen 1.5 (which is a whole fascinating thing in itself). Any reasonable assessment of precedent (which GF admiteedly toys with in each generation) would take this into account and tell you fossils were still a stable pattern.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            You literally told me to fuck off over a game. You can show your disappointment for a game, that isn’t what I said ‘it’s just a game’ for. I said ‘it’s just a game’ because you’re being rude asf

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            It wasn’t him who told you that..

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Oops sorry, all these aviless people are blending for me

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Just to point out is actually that some avis aren’t loading for me, I think most do have avis

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            Tbh, Nintendalek has a weird avi that never loads no matter in what device I in
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c1e591c7cf842684c96020483b208d5d3a2f06284959e9616e24011129fc2a52.png

          • Nintendalek42

            For some reason the avi broke a few years ago and I just haven’t bothered to fix it hahaha

          • Nintendalek42

            Oh hey fair enough if you got me confused with someone (which is fair if we don’t have clear profiles haha 🙂 .
            Maybe be more careful before accusing me of literally telling yo to fuck though hahaha
            I am very angsty over this specific issue but I honestly don’t think I’m directly rude to people. I’ve been visitng this site for years and only tend to comment when there’s actual news but I really cherish the friendly atmosphere and would never dream of attacking people here 🙂 .

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Haha sorry today’s been such a blurr, I’m just glad Kuppo pointed it out before it got embarrassing XD

            Yeah it’s fine to get frustrated as long as you don’t let it get feisty with other people and stuff, sorry for all the drama XD

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Okay so since I actually replied to thinking you were someone else

            1) You do need to calm down. It is just a game. You can criticise it and dislike it all you want, but you shouldn’t let it legit make you angry.

            2) Yet Johto had its own regional bird, bugs and rodent, as well as its own starters. We’ve known since Gen 2 fossils aren’t a given and yet people let themselves get overhyped. Am I dissapointed that there wasn’t fossils (and the number of Pokémon in general)? Yeah. Am I gonna let that make me angry or overall ruin a game for me? Mope

          • Nintendalek42

            I think we can basically agree to disagree on this lol.

            I don’t see a need to calm down, I take this issue to heart, it’s no business of yours to police my feelings over it. A little anger is perfectly healthy, I’m not bursting capillaries over this or something.
            It’s perfectly fine to think you should take enjoyment of fictional franchises with emotional distance, but that’s not everyone’s approach, and I’m certainly not the only one here who doesn’t (and again this happens to literally be the 1 issue that really gets to me).

            Point 2 is frankly just nitpicking. I think discounting Gen II in this case is valid, you don’t, ultimately I don’t think there’s a single right answer of interpreting patterns. It is entirely valid to argue that GF break patterns whenever they fell like it so there’s that too. All it comes down to is me thinking this is an unnecessary and idiotic pattern break, and not wanting to let them get a pass on that haha.

            I never said it ruined the whole game for me. SM was amazing. That doesn’t mean I’m going to sweep it’s flaws under the rug. Accepting the flaws and moving on? Sure, that’s sensible. That doesn’t necessarily entail forgiving them or accepting they were valid decisions. They still should absolutely be brought up when GF has a chance of addressing them.

            But yeah, agree to disagree I guess.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I agree to agree to disagree :p

            Also sorry for being kinda cunty about your anger and stuff, today’s just been a blurr and sometimes some people here can have their anger get out of hand so I’m kinda used immediately going into ‘calm. Down m8’ mode

          • Nintendalek42

            No worries, sorry you encountered annoying people!

  • Lemme sum it up

    – Two versions is fucking stupid.
    – Should’ve been sequels*
    – This reveal trailer was really freaking bad
    – Necrozma Lunaala is perfect
    – More Mimikyu love
    – Maybe more customization? that would be nice. I have this irrational anger towards the new girl though.
    – If they have new alolan forms and/or pokemon as well as a plot thats different enough and new features like a REAL battle frontier then its a day one purchase. (B2W2/Platinum levels of content)
    – If not I will probably skip it or buy it later
    – Again, worst pokemon game reveal I’ve ever seen. Give us a full trailer or just.. something so we understand what this is without having to analyze “Never before seen pokemon” and “alternative story”

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      This wasn’t mean to be a proper trailer tho, it’s just a teaser. It’s meant to drive you nuts and leave questions unanswered, your annoyance makes you interested in it

      • my annoyance makes me indifferent/mad

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          You’re still on this Pokémon site waiting to find more info, aren’t you? 👀

        • Pokemania88

          at least your honest tho 😀 I like that

    • PercyEspeon

      They might be saving a longer trailer/more info until E3, at least that’s what I thinl. I knew it couldn’t be a huge trailer because of it being nearby and thought it would just be teased, like it was today.
      It was sorta like that last year, where we got a majority of our info near or during E3

      • I really hope so. My worry is that Pokemon likes to go silent for a few months after revealing the games not revealing anything. But since we are closer to the release than when SuMo were revealed it may not be like that

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Were only five months until release, I think we might get monthly info starting from this month or next

        • PercyEspeon

          Yeah, with 5 months, I doubt we’ll have that.
          I also forgot about CoroCoro, they might also have info. (although they may not since it comes around E3, but worth mentioning anyways)

    • temporario23

      I agree with the 2 versions thing. Why can’t it be just one fucking game??? I’m tired of having to buy the 2 games all the time to get access to everything. Hopefully, this time that won’t be needed (depending on what they decide to make exclusive to each game).

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Psst

        It’s called trading

        It’s been a feature since Gen 1

        • temporario23

          I don’t like to have pokémon that are not mine. As such, to make a living dex, I had to buy both Sun & Moon to get one cosmog and one cosmoem, one Type null and one Silvally, etc.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            That’s your problem then, not GameFreak’s.

          • temporario23

            No shit, dude. What kind of stupid reply is that? It’s not like I’m the only one making living dexes. How about GF making Cosmog or Type Null breedable instead? Is that too much of a problem? Fuck off.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Wow dude calm down? I’m just saying that GameFreak probably counts on people being willing to trade rather than having their own self imposed rules about only having their own Pokémon, and thus don’t expect people feeling its absolutely necessary to buy both games unless they actually want to. No need to be such a cunt about it :/

          • temporario23

            It was the way you replied that triggered me. “That’s your problem”. Was that suppose to make me feel better? Why even waste your time to tell me that?
            Anyway, the problem is with the legendaries. I don’t mind getting regular exclusive pokémon through the GTS, cause I can breed those later to have my own. But do you like having a Xerneas/Yveltal from someone else instead of having your own? I don’t. This is why I liked Platinum and Emerald more than B2W2. You could get the whole legendary trio in one game.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I’m just pointing out that the two version thing isn’t a problem for anyone but individuals and not a problem with the games in that regard.

            If I upset you, be mature and say so rather than being so dickish about it.

    • MelloMori

      Personal thoughts on it:
      – This is correct, but it kinda has to happen. The games are too different from one another. Theirs only one Cosmog, so how do you determine which legendary you get? It sucks, but its a necessary evil.
      – Nope. B2W2 sold badly and I have no faith that they could do better after the crap Sun and Moon was.
      – It was a teaser, so its forgivable.
      – Both of them are trash and belong right along a certain Toucan you don’t like.
      – Also overhyped pokemon that doesn’t deserve that much attention.
      – Same with the new guy. I’ve never wanted to punch a character in the face so much as him.
      – Not for me personally. At that point I”ll simply be asking why it couldn’t be DLC rather then a full new game that most of us don’t care about.
      – But yeah, this is a hard skip for me. Not worth my time or money. Its just going to be an improved version of a bad pokemon game, and I”m not interested in playing it again.

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    So I just realised

    We see no sign of the trainer out of battle after they’ve chosen their starter

    Combing that with what we saw in the SuMo game files…

    Catch my drift?

    • Wes

      I’m convinced the Wingull followed the protag. It turned exactly when he did.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Oh that reminds me
        What about that spaz Rotom Dex

        • Wes

          It was thrown in the volcano where it belongs

          • EarthenWarrior

            Good, I HATED that thing staring at me 24/7

    • no

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ
        • oh. i really hope so but I doubt the 3DS can handle that. Unless they made some crazy Iwata Johto compression tool

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            The 3DS could probably handle it seeing as it’s just one extra model on the overworld and most of the problems with the games were in battle tbh

            They’d probably dissappear in cutscene tho

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Oh no an Ultra Beast!, Quick get back in your Pokeball Wailord so I, a small powerless child, can protect you!

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Why do you think the protag is always smiling? They know they’ll be fine as a demon capable of obliterating any threat instantly

          • Monkeyfuzz
          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            He’s just surprised something as odd as he appeared 👀

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Trying not to let the darkness escape and reveal himself as one of demonkind. He isn’t aware that everyone in Alola is invincible to Tauros Charging them and Mudsdale stomping them so they are probably the same.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Hyep

  • Monkeyfuzz

    What if these versions are only happening so we are able to sit down again? I have seen so many places to park my arse in Alola but am blocked by the inability to sit.

    • zess

      Then you see other people sitting down while you are forced to stand eternal. It’s madding!

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Maybe it’s because we are meant to be from a different region where nobody ever learned to sit except when straddling a Pokemon in full protective gear?

        • zess

          Or….just maybe the game takes place in purgatory and to pay for the sins of our past life we’re force to stand being unable to emote or pain and suffering. Yes! thats got to be it! Nothing else makes sense…

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I would preorder a day one edition just to sit

  • Pokemania88

    Um.. So the youtuber Shofu posted a video saying not to be disappointed.

    because he knows something we don’t and it’ll get revealed soon

    UM> WHAT

    • Luigi301

      hes just saying that for views. tpci emailed someone back specifically saying they dont plan to bring it onto switch if this is what he means

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Or maybe he really knows something? Its possible for someone who doesnt work directly for GF to have information you know? Its called having sources

        • Pokemania88

          He is constantly getting products from nintendo for free to advertise. I wouldn’t be surprised.

        • Luigi301

          im well aware and i understand that completely. i just cant think of something he would know that would be a surprise or anything. alolan johtos seem obvious. switch was deconfirmed. what else is there?

          • UnburdenedLegume

            He’s a reviewer so he gets games early way before release

      • Pokemania88

        nah… He didn’t say it’ll be on switch, he just said there are some “gameplay surprises to be excited about” and that even though alola got boring quick this will still “change up the game”

        • Luigi301

          this is how ive looked at alola. i always talked about how i disliked lack of main game, and how people rush just to get to competitive. Alola brought story and i havent played much since beating the main game. I regret hoping for a more story based game. if we look back at bw2, it brought more story to bw so i see the same thing happening for me personally. New gameplay? idk what could be meant by that but lets wait and find out.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Why should he know something that we don’t? Is he secretly a hacker?

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Alolan forms of Johto Pokémon

      Poison/Steel Mercury Slugma, Grass/Fire hula dancer Bellosom, etc

      • Golden_Flygon

        I’m completely up for that Slugma idea

    • Chaos

      Um…he didn’t actually say that.

      He said don’t be disappointed because they are sure to reveal more information soon, and hopefully something interesting.

      • Pokemania88

        Go to 1:18 and 3:34

        • Chaos

          I watched it. He didn’t say he knows something the rest of us don’t. He just said he’s sure we will get something more info soon.

          • Pokemania88

            “I have a bit more info than most people”

            Cmon. That’s literally word for word.

            Or maybe he’s just trollin but shofu works with Nintendo a LOT

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    On the plus side we’ll have more Lillie and Nebby ¯_(ツ)_/ ¯

    • Luigi301

      ugh should i prepare for bad memes that arent funny and will get old fast?

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Different strokes for different blokes

        I find it endearing :<

        • Luigi301

          lol i guess im the one who should just stay in the bag then

    • Pokemania88

      or if this is alternate version maybe Gladion has Nebby and Lillie has Type Null

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Type Nebby

        • Pokemania88

          evolves into Silgaleo or Luvally

      • Luigi301

        or maybe, the protagonist will tell gladion and Lillie and their mother, that he/she knows where their father is?

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Lusamine exiled him to Pokepelago and told them he was dead.

          • Luigi301

            what? i thought he was taken by an ultra beast and lost all his memory?

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I mean maybe but I think Lusamine would still know him if she saw him.

          • Luigi301

            well yeah, i think lillie and gladion would too no? i dont remember when he was said to have “died”

          • Monkeyfuzz

            It didn’t, I just think that is something Lusamine would tell them, like they ask where he is and she just brushes them off with that and gets back to herself.

    • PercyEspeon

      <3 <3
      However, I also am excited to have more Gladion <3

      • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

        oh hey you’ve returned 😀

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      I wonder how different they’re going to be compared to SM

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Lillie now has a reinforced titanium alloy briefcase with fifty six locks

        Nebby still escapes

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          These will always be endearing to me ^_^

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Well she doesn’t seem to know it can use Teleport, despite it using it when we first see them.

  • Chaos

    So is it too much to get excited over the prospect of new Pokémon?

    We may see new Alolan Formes (but I really want some new Megas).

    New Z-moves are hard for me to get excited about unless they start getting more creative with them.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Until proven otherwise there are no new Pokemon just forms

      • Chaos

        And only Formes for Solgaleo and Lunala which is sad.

        I guess Alolan Pokémon will forever remain shit.

        • Nintendalek42

          Honestly while i do think it’s very risky to assume any actual new pokémon, I think it would be reasonable to assume new alolan forms. There were so few of them, and nearly half of them were basically jokes, so I definitely fell like there’s major untapped material.

          Maybe it’s safest to be pessimistic and just assume new legendary forms, but I think we do have a decent chance at alolans, if only following the gen VI precedent of new megas.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Idk remember in Plat and B2W2 we got forms for other Pokémon too

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I’d say be excited for it as a possibility, but not as a certain

    • Luigi301

      in all honesty, i do not see megas coming to usm. i dont think it would fit to just throw more in when they stopped in sm for zmoves. z moves are unexciting (imo) but there will be more and we saw them in the trailer today. as for New pokemon, i said this below but i really doubt we will get new pokemon in terms of evos for those one stage pokemon like komala, bruxish, etc. as much as i would love them, i just dont think so. I see the forms and possibly alolan johtos because of the gs being on vc with bank compatibility. one thing i want is more than5% chance of finding alolan pokemon because that made sense. also get rid of golisopod (is this the name) ability or give hidden ability please

      • Luigi301

        man this post has quite a few typos, jeeez

      • Chaos

        I agree with you and it’s kind of sad. Alolan Formes never had the same umph as Megas did.

        I know we are getting new Z-moves but I hope they aren’t all just boring ones that inflict damage and nothing else. Give them cool additional effects and I’ll be excited about them.

        • Luigi301

          well alolan formes were built as different forms of regular pokemon. megas were built to be powerful in different ways, whether it was typing or stats or abilities etc. z-moves didnt have the umph that they thought they would have as a replacement for megas

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Alolan forms make sense if you look at real world nature where variations of the same species can exist due to different climates, diet etc.
          The issue is that many aren’t explained well and are just because of Pancakes/ whatever.
          Megas on the other hand are built onto the lore of evolution in the Pokemon world. Both are interesting but Megas generally have more potential to be game-changers.

          Z-moves are pretty much just longer drawn out super moves that can get tedious fast. i found myself pretty much ignoring them completely during the main game.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          I think Alola Forms have less oomph because we might get regional variants throughout the franchise i think

  • Butter Geek

    I combined everything that makes sense, other people’s theories and my theories to make one Big prediction:

    You arrive in alola. You’re from Sinnoh. You have Daddy Issues. You get your starter. You meet your rival that is the protagonist of the opposite gender. You meet Kukui’s doughter that has a weird pokemon. You are saved by Necrozma and it recognizes the weird pokemon. It gives you the Z-ring. You go on your adventure. You fight 8 gym leaders (Grown up Trial capitains + Hau with a Psychic gym + Ryoku) and Totems (Ones from Sun/Moon + A. Raichu (Hau’s Signature mon is now a new Alolan form, his Raichu became the totem)). In the meantime you meet the cult-like Team Crystal that praises Necrozma. After that, That weird pokemon evolves into a second Necrozma that posseses Solgaleo/Lunala and opens a wormhole. He splits and posseses the Totems while preparing to posses the UBs. You have to fight the totems to get parts of Necrozma. He breaks out and posseses the UBs. Gym leaders fights the UBs, you have to get help from Team Crystal and Catch the Original Necrozma, use his Z-move and beat the second Necrozma. You win, the second Necro devolves back into the weird friendly pokemon. Then you battle the Elite 4 and Lillie the Champion. The end. In the postgame you can catch the UBs and battle in the Battle Frontier.

    • Luigi301

      lol i love how in order to like hint at sinnoh remakes in the future. you have to be from sinnoh and moved to alola

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Watch all of this be actually 100% accurate

    • please dont give us the lazy opposite sex rival. Make a REAL character.

      • Luigi301

        isnt it just the protags? lol

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        What if it’s a opposite sex rival but a great and we’ll developed character at the same time?

  • Monkeyfuzz
    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      *gasp*

      • Monkeyfuzz

        It’s super powerful and could probably beat Arceus easily.

  • Leo

    Guys, I’m feeling like getting into pkm again after a few months off it. I started playing SM again a couple of days ago and only found out about the direct today lol. I’ve only watched 6 episodes of the anime, is the rest good?

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I think taking breaks from stuff is always good tbh, it’s probably why I can post stuff here so much even I dry periods because I take breaks sometimes

      I like the anime, but I think it’s hit or miss with some people. There’s filler but I actually feel they’re quite fun? Not fully caught up myself but this is just so far

      • Leo

        I’ll take a look at it then. I stopped at the 6th one because that’s all they had released at the time

    • Butter Geek

      Do you have a deviantart account?

      • Leo

        Never used it

    • Luigi301

      the anime hasnt been good since Veronica Taylor stopped voicing Ash. but to each their own i guess

      • Leo

        I’ve never watched Pokemon in English so I don’t even knew about this lady’s existence 😀

        • Luigi301

          ah ok thats cool. then my opinion matters even less lol

          • Leo

            lol at my verb tenses getting all mixed up. I grew up watching it in Portuguese but it just doesn’t sound as good as in Japanese

  • im just grumpy

    • Luigi301

      why?

      • i overhyped myself and i really dont care for what info we have right now.

        • Luigi301

          lmao i know the feeling, i did too. but social media made it out to be more than it is.

          • I wish I had no idea this was happening so i could log in with no expectations and see this. Thats what made that first big Sun and Moon gameplay trailer so amazing because my friend came running to me at school saying “DID YOU SEE THE NEW TRAILER???”

          • Luigi301

            eh expectations are fun. logging on with no idea there was news to see this, with everyone else talking so much about it. it would be upsetting just as much tbh

          • I disagree. It’s more of a suprise and you dont get hyped for Sinnoh remakes or sequels

          • Luigi301

            lol sometime hype can be a good thing. and lol sinnoh remakes. i wouldve thought before these games but what do i know? i still want a game on switch that isnt pokken…. colo and xd game when?

    • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

      Im grumpy too

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Hi grumpy I’m dad

      • Hi dad my current emotion is grumpy

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          F U C K

          I can’t dad joke this

          Umm…ummm….

          EXIT LEFT

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      – Hey I’m grump

      – I’m not so grump

      • Hey I’m dan
        im also dan
        daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

  • dooplus

    This was so disappointing, i wanted the game to be on switch (preferably exclusive), does not help that the game will probably have no new pokemon besides forms. This was just very disappointing all through out. I think this is just a cheap game made to fill out time. Very disappointed in game freak, seems like they still don’t have the balls to move into HD development. Stuck on a shitty 240p device, sigh.

  • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

    Now Introducing
    Ultra Mega Charizard X and Ultra Mega Charizard Y
    The next evolution of mega evolution only Exclusive to Charizard

    • Luigi301

      why did i think your avatar pic was ladydevimon?

      • dooplus

        Because that is how unfaithful to Pokemon design standards the new forms are…

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      GOVNAH NOOOOO

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    On the plus side

    People with low expectations will probably appreciate E3 more than us XD

    • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

      we are just spoiled

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Unrelated but tbh Blue Diamond is like the main reason I’ve kept watching the show

    • dooplus

      Nintendo’s presentation is only 30 minutes.

    • Luigi301

      ill probably appreciate e3 regardless. even tho i really dont have high expectations for it, with rabbids in mind. please just no

      • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

        Rabbids is best

        • Luigi301

          you spelled “worst” wrong

          • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

            You spelled Opinions wrong 😛

          • Luigi301

            I wasn’t attempting to spell that lol. but seriously, the peach actually scares me.

          • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

            i find it hilarious

          • Luigi301

            well we will see. i have no hopes for that but who knows. im still waiting on xeno2 thats really it as of now oh and fe switch game that isnt warriors

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        If rabbids takes over give minutes ill be very

        Very

        Grumpy :<

    • Chaos

      I’m more excited about the new Assassin’s Creed at E3.

      Been at least 3-4 years since I played a good AC game.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      There’s always a good side in anything 😀

    • Ultra Seraph

      If there is no Borderlands, the Ultra games is all I got

    • PercyEspeon

      tbh, I learned really hard about expectations and whatnot from various other things, so I went through SM with this is mind and really enjoyed them and loved them (in fact, I’ve played through it 4 times (two of them Nuzlockes)) and I still love them.
      So I’ll just do the same here lolol

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        Your Back!

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Kurusu, that’s like the 3rd time you misspelled “You’re back” xD

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            My bad phone problems

  • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡
  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    @spectralseraph:disqus I might use Deci in Ultra Moon r u proud of mii

    • Ultra Seraph

      YES

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Me and my friend are doing starter swap so he’s using Ciny and I’m using Deci

        • Ultra Seraph

          Ayyy

      • Im using Incini

    • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

      foreshadow

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Diamond and Pearl are busy being remade 👀

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      He removed the Sinnoh games just to make the shelf look better

      JK

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        DP had ugly box art

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          I’m glad they’re getting more vibrant and colourful

        • Ultra Seraph

          Pearl was just taking up SPACE

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            It was TIME to spice it up

          • Ultra Seraph

            The people who can’t see that clearly have a DISTORTED view

          • Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon

          • Ultra Seraph

            I love them….
            Moon anyways

  • dooplus

    …. – – .–. … —… -..-. -..-. -.. .. … -.-. — .-. -.. .-.-.- –. –. -..-. ….. ….. .-. – ..-.

  • EarthenWarrior

    proving that i truly have shit luck
    the very second i get home i receive a letter from Gamestop saying my credit card might been used or tampered with
    PERFECT

    • dooplus

      lol

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Hope your card issues get fixed, that sucks :/

      • EarthenWarrior

        i just cannot fucking catch a break period

  • Ultra Seraph

    The worst part of the Ultra Designs was the need to fit Necrozma arms everywhere

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I think they fit Solgaleo because they form what looks like griffin wings kinda

      Imo they just look odd on Lunala, which is a shame because I love the icy colour pallet :/

      • Ultra Seraph

        Huh I actually see it the reverse, kinda like having two pairs of hands
        I don’t llike Solgaleo because it just strikes me as odd that two arms are just dangling from their sides

      • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

        I wanna see the shiny version I cant get because Shiny lock

    • Ultra Seraph

      So this is what they feel like when I nonstop shit on that starter…..
      Sorry guys

      • are you saying incini hate caused this?

        • TheNintendoChip

          I think they’re saying that the constant negativity is getting somewhat tiresome, like the Incineroar hate.

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      BIG MOOD

  • Butter Geek

    I know some people already posted them, but if there won’t be new fakemon or Alolan Forms what will your team be?
    Mine:
    Decidueye/Female Primarina
    Comfey (maybe)
    Alolem
    Tsareena
    Minior
    Aloslash

    • Deci
      Mareanie
      Komala
      Ribombee
      Ninetails
      Marowak

    • Ultra Seraph

      Deciduye
      Araquanid
      Kommo-o
      Salazzle (I can’t ditch those four, they were the core of my team last game and I’d love to take them for a second spin

      I dunno my other two yet but I know what will be a ground type, and the other I dunno, either A nine or Lycanroc

    • Butter Geek

      Maybe Pom Pom oricorio instead of Comfey.

    • TheNintendoChip

      I’m hoping that Ultra Sun/Moon have more pokemon available on each island. I don’t really want to use a team of all gen 7 pokemon again

    • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡
    • Rockcrawdaunt

      Incineroar (IM GONNA LET IT GROW ON ME)
      Mareanie
      Tsareena
      Drampa
      Mudsdale
      Vikavolt

      • Butter Geek

        You’re a good person

      • Ultra Seraph

        Not all Mons can grow on you….. even after a playthrough

      • PercyEspeon

        Good luck! Incineroar definitely grew for me personally when I played through with it.
        It just so happens that Primarina really grew on me so it’s my fav of the bunch now.
        At least it beat Decidueye tho for second place (still love it just not as much as the other two)

      • Butter Geek

        You’re a good person

    • PercyEspeon

      I honestly don’t know because I used a good amount of the new mons when playing through them the few times I did
      But I guess I won’t mind playing with them more and if there aren’t any new new ones I’ll probably open up to using older gen mons too because of what I said earlier

      • Ultra Seraph

        Have you used Araquanid?

        • PercyEspeon

          Yep, it’s on one of my first playthrough teams.
          There are some I haven’t used but that’s just it hasn’t fit my playstyle of being more offensive (Comfey) or they are obtainable super late in the game (like Vikavolt and Crabominable) cause I like having a full time way before then and I don’t like switching out members unless I feel it’s necessary

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Hey you want the 4 for the Mega’s in Sun and Moon I finally have my 3DS charged up again but I think I will go for Primarily my same team

      Primarina
      Togedemaru
      Midnight Lycanroc (Was at one point on my team)
      Beware
      Turtonator
      Mimikyu (Replace reuinecleus)

      I had 6th mon ready in first time but now I will keep a steady team

    • Golden_Flygon

      Incineroar
      Minior
      Araquanid
      Flygon
      Komala
      Alolan Exeggutor

      • Butter Geek

        Why Flygon?

        • Ultra Seraph

          ITs godly

        • Golden_Flygon

          Cuz wynaut

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    So at least we have reveals to look forward too. E3, coro coro, and bi monthly or montly trailers until November when everything gets leaked! 😀

    • Ultra Seraph

      YES

      • Ultra Seraph

        AND NO

        • Rockcrawdaunt

          VAGUE

          • Ultra Seraph

            YA

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I doubt E3 will have that much given all the other stuff they’ll likely want to pack in for other games.

  • You: The stars look beautiful tonight.
    Me: You know who else looks beautiful?
    You: *blushes*
    Me: Sinnoh remakes

  • dont worry guys the otp will return im just going through a thing right now

    • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

      ITS JUST A PHASE MOM

    • Pokemania88

      a thing?? As in personally?

      • as in no sinnoh remakes in 2017

        • Pokemania88

          oh, hope you feel better lol.

          I don’t think we’re getting remakes on the 3ds again tho. Every single remake has been on a new console so I doubt they would have both ORAS and gen 4.

          But hell, I sure am not opposed to it.

  • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

    Ok I just realized even tho I wasn’t happy about the announcement before. We are getting new Pokemon games tho , SO NOW IM HYPED

    • Ultra Seraph

      YES AND THEY’RE IMPROVEMENTS TO SUN AND MOON 😀

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      This game brightened my mood and will give me the hope I need to become me again

      • im a broken woman

        • Ultra Seraph

          So we switched places?

          • …ouch… enjoy it

          • Ultra Seraph

            Nah nah I’m still depressed, give it about a day and I’ll feel like shit again

        • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

          But are you all I want to do you is be you and thats…

          Say the right line

          • i feel like you probably said something really nice and sweet but like… your phone got in the way

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            But I feel bad that your sad too

            The correct answer was a giant woman tho (trying to make a joke at the wrong time my bad >~<)

          • man i cant even be a regular slightly taller woman how am i supposed to be a giant woman

          • Ultra Seraph

            How tall are you?

          • 5,9″

          • Ultra Seraph

            WHY DOES EVERYONE FEEL THE NEED TO BE TALLER THAN ME!?

          • Ultra Seraph

            I’m a midget….

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            How tall are you?

          • Ultra Seraph

            5’7

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            We are the same height! 😀

          • Ultra Seraph

            I FEEL INCLUDED

          • PercyEspeon

            ayyyy 5’7 group

          • Ultra Seraph

            YES
            Actually I dunno if I’m 5’7 or 5’8, but I’m pretty sure I’m 5’7

          • IM TALLER THAN EVERYONE IT SUCKS

          • Ultra Seraph

            I’m the shortest of all my friends

          • EarthenWarrior

            WHY SO MANY PEOPLE I KNOW WANT TALL WOMEN
            EMBRACE YOUR AMAZONESS

          • CUZ I TOWER OVER EVERYONE AND I FEEL WEIRD I JUST WANNA GO UN NOTICED PLZ

          • EarthenWarrior

            then either chop your legs off or invent shrink ray technology
            Or just embrace it, trust me there’s a ton of Amazon chasers on this planet

          • Yeah I don’t want “chasers”

          • TheNintendoChip

            I feel, I’m 6’1” and all my friends are pretty short so I look even taller by comparison

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Your taller than me!

          • PercyEspeon

            You’re taller than me so you’re a giant woman to me

          • EarthenWarrior

            please stop speaking….

          • Ultra Seraph

            No you

          • EarthenWarrior

            ughhhh you just don’t understand

          • Ultra Seraph

            I do

          • We all do

          • EarthenWarrior

            well stop agitating it

          • Ultra Seraph

            Release the fetish dragon

          • /r/dragonsfuckingcars?

          • Ultra Seraph

            THATS HOW AEROMORPHS ARE MADE

          • EarthenWarrior

            I rather keep it to myself for you guy’s sake

          • Ultra Seraph

            (Anger dragon noises)

          • “You think you’re better than us just because you’re tall? Congrats, your taaalll, woooow its incredible wo- you wanna trophy? We should just give trophies to tall things and every tree and building will have it’s own trophy.

            anyways wanna buy some weed?”

            – Douchy Guy from Bo Burnham’s “What”

          • EarthenWarrior

            UGHHHHH ITS SOMETHING ELSE

          • BIG THICK WOMEN? IS IT BIG THICK WOMEN EARTHEN? I THINK IT IS. BIG TALL THICK WOMEN

          • EarthenWarrior

            Yes omfg…..

          • Ultra Seraph

            EVERYONE GETS IT YOU’RE MORE VOCAL ABOUT YOUR FETISHES THAN I AM ABOUT VOCALOID AND I HAVE VOCALOID RELATED PROFILE PICTURES ON AT LEAST FOUR DIFFERENT SITES OCCASIONALLY INCLUDING THIS ONE

          • EarthenWarrior

            i’m the one trying it keep it under-wraps

          • You were trying?

          • Ultra Seraph

            Saying
            “uuuggh” or “hrrngh” every time something like it is brought up even if its out of context is not keepin it “under-wraps”

          • EarthenWarrior

            more of a distressed involuntary noise

          • Ultra Seraph

            No need to type it

          • Thats like if every time I saw a cute girl I was like

            “OH MY GOD IM SO GAY I LOVE HER”

            … oh wait

          • EarthenWarrior

            it’s just so freaking frustrating keeping all of it locked up….

          • Ultra Seraph

            Earthen sexual harasser confirmed?

          • EarthenWarrior

            how am i harassing anybody?

          • Ultra Seraph

            So frustrating keeping it all locked up
            If it ever unlocks

          • EarthenWarrior

            because I am painfully lonely
            i am never EVER gonna find somebody who would put up with my never ending slew of problems and issues
            it just sucks to be me

          • Ultra Seraph

            You’ll find someone

          • EarthenWarrior

            no i won’t, not unless i pay or drug them

          • Ultra Seraph

            But you aren’t trying to keep it under wraps

          • EarthenWarrior

            i’m 6.0

          • Ultra Seraph

            Hah my friend is taller than you

          • EarthenWarrior

            like i care

          • Ultra Seraph

            Shawty

          • EarthenWarrior

            i’m still beefy and strong

          • Ultra Seraph

            You’re a porkchop

          • EarthenWarrior

            they’re delicious

          • Ultra Seraph

            I didn’t know you ate yourself

          • EarthenWarrior

            i eat my beard sometimes

          • Ultra Seraph

            Munch

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Fuse with A.Exeggutor you’ll get there

          • EarthenWarrior

            …….

        • Ultra Seraph

          Though seriously, Gen 4 remakes are coming, don’t fret

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Dialga will reign again

          • Ultra Seraph

            At the right time

      • Ultra Seraph

        Same! 😀

    • ill be hyped in like… a month

  • Monkeyfuzz

    Waiting for Trump to turn this into a Gun debate and for Islamist turds to claim responsibility to those who are reacting negatively.

    • Butter Geek

      He’s gonna move the white house to New York

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Maybe he’ll build a wall around Ultraspace.

    • FedEx

      I think it’s best we refrain from political discussions here. Plenty of that everywhere we go. We got new games coming up!

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Was only joking.

        • FedEx

          Cool!
          Are you excited for the new games??

  • Ultron

    I think people are angry because many of us are sort of over the idea of a third version after we were spoiled with sequels in black 2/white 2 and they straight up skipped Z.

    • Ultra Seraph

      This

      • Ultron

        At least that’s how I feel, maybe I’m projecting. I’m not really that angry, just bummed they don’t seem to be sequels

        • Ultra Seraph

          Let’s be honest
          Did they NEED sequels?
          What did SuMo need most? Fixing to certain plot areas
          This is exactly what this game will be

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I wanted to see Lillie tbh

          • Ultra Seraph

            Who’s to say they won’t show that at the end of this story?

          • Ultron

            Yeah, and that’s good. I really hope the changes are extensive

          • Ultra Seraph

            Agreed
            Two words
            Expanded Guzma

          • EarthenWarrior

            that last one can be extremely bad if taken out of perspective

          • Ultra Seraph

            I MEAN MORE STORY AND SHIT

          • EarthenWarrior

            too late this will inspire blueberry guzma

          • Ultra Seraph

            ITS YA BOI BLUEZMA

          • EarthenWarrior

            you poor fool

          • Ultra Seraph

            WHAT I DON’T KNOW STUFF LIKE THAT..
            I’m sheltered…

          • EarthenWarrior

            well…….oh just look it up

          • Ultra Seraph

            no thanks

          • ayy

          • EarthenWarrior

            i just don’t see the appeal

    • FedEx

      We’ve not seen enough to be so critical.
      Also Shofu who has some inside info was saying there are some big surprises in these games. Hmm wonder what they could be.

    • Pokemania88

      awww star… At least your not angry and whining about it like everyone else… 😀

      On the bright side, we’ll get them in the next gen 🙂

  • Butter Geek

    Star you know cyrus will probably get a redesign like Maxie?

  • Golden_Flygon

    WAIT I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING
    So you know how we can go in between alternate worlds thanks to our legend (post game) in S/M? What if we can do that, but we can travel to the world of the regular SM?

    • Golden_Flygon

      In USUM I mean

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      0.o Plot twist

      • Golden_Flygon

        It’s possible, and we would technically have another region.

    • PercyEspeon

      SM Protag: Who are you?
      USUM: I’m you but stronger…and from a different dimension

      • Golden_Flygon

        And also I have a Zoid Griffin/Zoid Bat with arms

        • Ultra Seraph

          We all know Zoid Bat is godly

    • Ultra Seraph

      YESH

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    A week until E3 that’s seven days lads!!! So it’s time for the next E3 Countdown Question!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ebd1e612e747e0f0414e31ba50acf0c3ecd44b091c9f89a64f852b7544dfa1dd.gif

    Rate the Gens, including base pairs, remakes, third versions and sequels, from 1 to 7. Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon shouldn’t effect your score for Gen 7 due to how little we know, so for Gen 7 just think SuMo.

    • Ultra Seraph

      But they already affected it and its #1 for me

    • from best to not best
      Gen 4
      Gen 5
      Gen 7
      Gen 3
      Gen 2
      Gen 6
      Gen 1

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        That top three is 👌🏿

        • I kinda realized how those are the only good gens

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I think all the Gens are good tbh, just some are less good

            Except Gen 3

            Fuck Gen 3

          • Ultra Seraph

            It hurts

          • Nah gen 3 is good. ORAS isnt

          • Monkeyfuzz

            If they were they never would’ve been made as the franchise would’ve failed after gen 1.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        T E A

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      1) Gen 5
      2) Gen 4
      3) Gen 7
      4) Gen 2
      5) Gen 6
      6) Gen 1
      7) Gen 3

    • Golden_Flygon

      1) Gen 4
      2) Gen 5
      3) Gen 7
      4) Gen 6
      5) Gen 2
      6) Gen 3
      7) Gen 1

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        I approve of that top three ⚟

        • Golden_Flygon

          Yeet

    • Pokemania88

      In terms of how much I enjoyed the games:
      1) gen 5
      2) gen 7
      3) gen 3
      4) gen 4
      5) gen 2
      6) gen 1
      7) gen 6

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Glad to see Gen 5 do so well such good games

        • Pokemania88

          yes it was tough for me between gen 7 or gen 5 but gen 7 in incomplete so I didn’t want to jump the gun

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I love Gen 7 too tbh

            Feel like depending on how the rest of it goes it might become my overall favourite

          • Ultra Seraph

            😀

          • FedEx

            I’m die hard Hoenn but I’d say the most complete, creative and fun games have to be BW2 esp. as a sequel to BW.
            Gen 6 was good but I only rate it due to ORAS.
            Gen 4 was probably the best for DPPT were great and HGSS was just amazing.

            Sadly Gen 1 and 2 are lower down but nostalgia and the fact we started with them makes them good too just think the rest are better!

    • Ultra Seraph

      1. 7
      2. 5
      3. 3
      4. 4
      5. 1
      6. 2
      7. 6

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        *Unova intensifies*

        Tbh I guess Gen 7 would be your fave before you posted it was like the ghost Gen lol

        • Ultra Seraph

          YES IT WAS IT GAVE ME PHYSICAL GHOSTS AND A GHOST STARTER AND JESUS FUCK LUNALA IS PERF
          Tbh , I like the top 4 and the rest bore me

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Rip

            I think XY can be fun but you have to put effort into making it fun lol

          • Ultra Seraph

            I had a team of my favorites and it still fucking sucked

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I can only do it with like theme teams and shit

            Otherwise it bores me

          • Ultra Seraph

            It still bores me with those

            lAISANDUR

    • PercyEspeon

      Best to alright
      Gen 4
      Gen 7
      Gen 5
      Gen 6 and 3 tied
      Gen 1 and 2 tied as well

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Damn 4 5 and 7 crushing the completion 👌🏿

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Hmmm
      Gen. 4
      Gen. 2
      Gen. 7
      Gen. 3 (only for LGFR)
      Gen. 5
      Gen. 1
      Gen. 6

      • Ultra Seraph

        Gen 5 is that low?
        (Scared hissing)

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Gen 5
      Gen 3
      Gen 7
      Gen 4
      Gen 2
      Gen 6
      Gen 1

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        G E N 5

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          T H E B E S T

    • FedEx

      4
      5
      3
      6
      2 + 1

      Haven’t played SM so can’t add 7th. And I’m not even sure about that list above, I think each gen has it’s strong points. Really tough call tho <_<

  • FedEx

    Hey guys anyone remember me? 😛

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      No?

      • FedEx

        No surprise there. I don’t remember you. Haven’t posted regularly since 6th Gen!
        Nice to meet you btw 😉

        • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

          Oh I became regular last year early july

    • Butter Geek

      Yeah, you lost my package 4 times!

    • Pokemania88

      I do! Good to see you back!

      • FedEx

        Glad 2 be back!

      • FedEx

        I haven’t yet played SM.
        Are they any good??

        • Pokemania88

          My personal favorite pokemon games ever.

          • Ultra Seraph

            Same

          • FedEx

            They looked awesome going off what I’ve seen. Tropical regions are my absolute favourite!

    • I’m fed up with this

      ayyyyyyyyyyyyy

      • FedEx

        Ayyyyyy
        What you fed up with? 😛

    • Golden_Flygon

      I first joined Pokejungle around last August, but I don’t remember if you were around then…

      • FedEx

        Nope. Hopefully will be seeing more of me from now on 😉

        • Golden_Flygon

          Nice! Well welcome back to the Jungle then!

    • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

      I dont recall

      • FedEx

        I was around a lot during 5th gen/6th gen. Disappeared for 7th and uh yeah that’s probably why!
        Anyways nice 2 meet you!

  • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

    Hey Butter Geek wanna trade for your mega evolvers now?

    • Butter Geek

      I’ll be ready in 20 minutes

    • Butter Geek

      Okay, how trade this way in Sun? I never tried

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        Go into the Festival Plaza then if we are FC’d already we find each other then gives us options to trade

        • Butter Geek

          We aren’t. My Friend code: 0748-6886-8813.

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Mines 0748-2900-2536
            IGN: Alex

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            You gotta enter mine too for it

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Where are you? You haven’t registered me yet?

  • Ultra Seraph

    A friendly reminder
    All of y’all like gen 7 this much with just one game
    And the new game will be SuMo but even better sooooooo

    • Ultra Seraph

      Sooo please somebody take the hype?

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        I’m already hyped :p

        • Ultra Seraph

          YESH

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Your username makes it clear :p

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Gen 7 best gen confirmed

      • Ultra Seraph

        It really is

  • Ariel

    I just hope that this new game has the Battle Frontier….but I am not holding my breath. Also hope for some better facial animations 👀

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Hopefully if Sinnoh returns? 👀

    • TheNintendoChip

      Emerald and Platinum both introduced Battle Frontiers to their respective regions.
      And if Ultra Sun/Moon are similar to Emerald and Platinum then…
      Who knows? 🙂

    • Ultra Seraph

      I NEVER NOTICED THAT WUT

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      P E W

    • Monkeyfuzz

      It’s smiling because they played that equip card to raise its’ attack points to 5000 so you can finish off the opponents life points in one turn.

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    @spectralseraph:disqus my friend said this

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/62491e5d1a36049a2535c09ae578fb3b9e993e06cc06ce65fcb5275cd8b99854.jpg

    Do you take it as an insult or a compliment? XD (he doesn’t mean anyone on here BTW he doesn’t go on here)

    • Ultra Seraph

      I take it as neither, I prefer to stay away from THOSE Deci fans….I think you know the ones

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        But how can you stay away from yourself? 👀

        jk you’re fine it’s just your Ciny stuff that annoys me but I can live with that since yall deal with my bitching on a regular basis

        • Ultra Seraph

          My Incineroar hatred is bad but have you SEEN what THEY act like? It stops becoming about the Pokemon very quick. I may say your opinion is wrong but I’m not gonna think of less of you just cause of that… they on the other hand

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Hard-core fans of any Pokémon are scary e~e

  • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

    • Golden_Flygon

      Wow already a fan made theme?

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Damn peeps work fast

      • Ultra Seraph

        I saw Sol art within a hour after the stream, fully colored and all

    • Butter Geek

      Fanmade?

      • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

        yea

    • Ultra Seraph

      AYYYYY

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Already? Is it even good or does it feel lazy?

      • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

        Its pretty good imo

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          It didn’t changed too much from the original

  • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

    Already pre ordered all 3 games.

    • fool

      • Pokemania88
        • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

          I WAS ABOUT TO POST THE VIDEO

          • Pokemania88

            lolz I love soul eater so much

        • Golden_Flygon

          Lmao Excalibur was great

          • Pokemania88

            Excalibur is best anime sword

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Hey call me a fool but I preordered SuMo and it saved me like a good fifteen minutes of queuing + didn’t have to worry about stock issues

      • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

        I am a fool thanks, I like to play my games right away and not worry about stock

    • Butter Geek

      Where?

      • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

        gamestop

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    I just wish they had left the legendaries alone. They were so well designed, not overly complicated, and pretty stellar. Necrozma was complicated and needed some kind of story, but combining him twice seems like overkill.

    • Ultra Seraph

      You can’t tell me Lunala doesn’t look badass though

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        That thing on its chest looks bulky and weird.

        • Ultra Seraph

          But it still looks really coooollll

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            the official art looks better than the in game model.

          • Ultra Seraph

            I love that tho

        • Monkeyfuzz

          I actually find the head triangle the most awkward part.

          • Ultra Seraph

            But it’s almost a Masquerade mask…..
            And I adore it

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I think it would look better the other way up.

          • Ultra Seraph

            Of course, but it still looks cool to me
            (Though if it was just a band it would look even better

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Yeah, then it would work well with the edge in the middle.

          • Ultra Seraph

            Yesss

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I think it works because they’re meant to be complex and unlike other Pokémon (they’re Ultra Beasts after all) but I wish they dealt with Necrozma’s arms better

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Ultra Solgaleo or Ultra Lunala?

    (You’ve all probably answered the question but I don’t think I’ve seen it asked in one post)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6a8cdc99a60c08ffb844302e9a81bf5b4f427f219adbe765db99aec89ac2358d.jpg

    • Ultra Seraph

      I never loved a mascot like I do Ultra Lunala

    • Pokemania88

      I like Solgaleo as a legendary better but Lunala looks pretty sweet fused with Necrzma

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I love Ultra Solgaleo, because the horns and the griffin vibes

    • Golden_Flygon

      Ultra Solgaleo looks dope

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      I love the lunala made of ice so much

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        That colour scheme is dope

        • Ultra Seraph

          It is and I adore it

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            But what if it becomes Ice/Psychic 👀

          • Ultra Seraph

            I’ll die
            I honestly hope Water/Ghost but its a stretch

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Think it’ll at least stay Psychic because it’s the fusion between two Psychic types

          • Ultra Seraph

            True

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Everything about it is dope

          • Ultra Seraph

            Yesh

    • PercyEspeon

      Ultra Lunala for me <3
      Although, once again, still like what they did with Ultra Solgaleo
      Both were amazing before, and I still like what they did to both here

    • idk yet

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        *suuuun*

      • Ultra Seraph

        *Mooon*

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        *uuuultra suuuuuun*

        • Golden_Flygon

          Praise the Ultra Sun

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        Starrrrrr go to the mooooooon

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Solgaleozma for me.

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        That sounds like a medical condition XD

        • Monkeyfuzz

          It is only curable by throwing yourself in a volcano and yelling “I did it for Covfefeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!” as you plummet into the lava.

          • Ultra Seraph

            YES XD

    • temporario23

      Ultra Solgaleo. Ultra Lunala looks clunky af.

    • Ultron

      Neither, but if I had to choose, I guess Solgaleo…

  • Ultra Seraph
    • im not ready to make this my wallpaper

      • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

        Already did

        • Ultra Seraph

          Same

      • Ultra Seraph

        I just did

    • Ultron

      Honestly I still think these forms kinda look like shit

  • Golden_Flygon

    Even though I never really liked Necrozma, I will say this: Thank you for making Solgaleo a griffin

  • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

    Anyone wanna battle? I’m bored

  • Butter Geek
  • my brother doesnt care at all .-.

    guess im alone

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Like he doesn’t care about the games at all or he doesn’t care about what games were getting?

      • hes not interested in the new games. he didnt even finish Sun…
        Why cant i have friends to play pokemon with irl

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Guess I’m lucky in that I have like five friends who play it, but the intensity of like how much they’re into it varies a lot

          • i dont even really have friends that Im close with.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            You’ll find some, remember you’re still in a time in your life where stuff’ll change rapidly

          • it doesnt help that my highschool gives us literally no free time. Our lunch is like 15 minutes even

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Wtf we get an hour :0

          • gotta make sure those social teenagers are busy working instead of being normal human beings

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            AN HOUR?!?! I ONLY GET 30 MINUTES

          • TheNintendoChip

            The perks of being in college lol, you get as much time for lunch as you want!
            But really, don’t worry about the friends situation. I didn’t meet my friend group until junior year (I had met some of them individually beforehand but w/e) and didn’t get super close to them until senior year.

          • like I have a friend group but one of them is my ex, one of them is leaving our school, and one of them ive literally never talked to, she’s just friend with my other friend who complains about everything

          • TheNintendoChip

            Similar thing with me pre-junior year. You just need to find the right people 🙂

          • EarthenWarrior

            i don’t have anybody

        • TheNintendoChip

          Yeah the only person irl who really liked Pokemon like me was my brother, but he stopped before B/W.
          Then my suitemate in college was playing Sun and I was like that’s cool I can talk about Pokemon w/someone.

        • Butter Geek

          I know the feeling. One of the few people that play Pokemon at my school is a young teacher

  • Ultra Seraph
    • Ultra Seraph

      Thanks Deviantart

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Why is Lunala so good?

      • Ultra Seraph

        Because it’s perfect

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ
  • Ultr͢a̧ ̕Go̵vn̸ah͡

    So Ultra Salt or Ultra Boom?

  • Butter Geek

    What if starters get Necrozma forms?

  • Monkeyfuzz

    Ultra Necrunala looks evil and Ultra Necrolgaleo looks like the hero.

    • Butter Geek

      Necrala and Necroleo sound better

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Yeah but then you completely lose the parts relating to the Moon and the Sun from their names.

  • Monkeyfuzz

    If I can ever afford the Switch I would probably get Pokken and main Decidueye. I really want to see the colour variants they give it.

  • Ultra Seraph

    Gotta do an essay soon, see y’all soon

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Remember, the more puns the better

      • Ultra Seraph

        Ill just multi task

  • Butter Geek

    Kurusu cant do today

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Ok then

  • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

    Still anyone want to battle in the game?
    I have been urged to do a royal

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      Please people I ask then everyone scurries away from here

      • MenacingCascoon

        Im in

        • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

          Alrighty I’ll repost to get people who don’t scroll down in

    • Ultra Seraph

      Sure

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        😀 want a regular battle?

        • Ultra Seraph

          I’d prefer a royale as of nowwww

          • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

            Ok then lets wait for others to appear

          • Ultra Seraph

            Okai

  • I hope that Mina gets her own trial in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon if this is going to be a sequel.

    • EarthenWarrior

      she dies from huffing paint fumes

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Even if it’s just a third version pair I hope she gets a trial anyway

      Who would the totem fairy be tho? Don’t think any Fairies but the Tapu and Primarina really fit and they probs won’t be Totems 😡

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        Mimikyu or the weird mushroom are possible candidates

      • PercyEspeon

        Maybe Comfey?

    • Dicie

      I hope that Pokemon like Turtonator and Drampa get the pre-evos they deserve!

  • Dicie

    I have to say, it’s peculiar that Gamefreak is going with this route for Generation VII and Pokemon X and Y didn’t get the same treatment–neither a third version nor a sequel. This happened with BW in the form of BW2, but did they just give up with XY? Will it be paired with another region in the future?

    • Daedardus

      XY were shit and they knew it.

      • … but they couldve fixed it

        • FedEx

          Exactly. A sequel or something could have made all the difference.
          BW were good but incomplete and then came along BW2 imo best games of the series and totally revived gen 5.

        • Daedardus

          They could, but I guess the sales would have taken a hit.

      • Dicie

        Can’t argue with that.

    • Nintendalek42

      To me it all seems like a timing issue. They can claim pokémon Z or whatever was never in the works all they want, I’m always going to remain sceptical and believe that they must have planned for it at some point. They just needed to get Gen 7 out for the 20th anniversary, and they wanted to put their all into it, so they had to ditch the Gen VI third version and shoe-in zygarde into SM.
      Which is a real shame because now X and Y still reek of unfinished, messy as they are, and it seems quite clear from many subtle hints that that generation still had tantalising secrets to reveal. Plus the integration of Zygarde was a joke of annoyingly-near minimum effort lore-wise.
      I really hope they do somehow give XY a proper follow-up someday. Overall I’m just of the opinion Game Freak should just slow down and actually make their games complete and fully polished rather than give us a series of amazing but flawed titles. I’d happily forgo having pretty much a title a year (which frankly I don’t like, damn our restless generation) to get proper numbers of new pokémon, a truly developed story, an amazing postgame, and concepts and ideas that are actually full explored (rather than just leaving a bunch of threads hanging and some obvious missing bits like XY and SM have). But that’s just not their business of production model sadly.

    • I feel they started on Z, came up with ideas, and then, cancelled it silently, and put those elements in S/M, which is why Zygarde is there. Leaving X/Y with so many loose ends.

    • Monkeyfuzz
    • Pokemania88

      I’m honestly so confused why Sun and Moon, such a beautiful and complete game, is getting a sequel when everything was wrapped up in the game.

      Yet here we have X and Y with a TON of loose ends and unfinished story lines, and ORAS with literally NO post game whatsoever.

      But listen, I’m sure the games are gonna be amazing, and GF will surprise us just like they did with SM

      • TheMonster6893

        I mean……to me it doesn’t really seem like USUM is a sequel or anything like that. Seems more like a Platinum for SM than anything else. I could be wrong tho. I really REALLY hope I’m wrong lol

        • Pokemania88

          No I think it’s a hybrid. So you might be right.

          And that’s what I meant to say lol ^

      • Ultron

        ORAS had a post game though..

        SM was not fully complete
        -who is the dragon trainer guy who randomly shows up?
        -Is there more to ultra space?
        -what is necrozma?
        -what’s with the random plots of land all over?

        Honestly I have more, but my brain is fried right now

        • Pokemania88

          that’s tru about Sun and Moon, but I felt like ORAS was a rushed game…

          Post game was meh..

  • Monkeyfuzz
    • EarthenWarrior

      Oh who gives a shit

      • Monkeyfuzz

        About what? How good it looks in this official artwork? Because I do.

        • EarthenWarrior

          It’s got them weird chicken legs

          • Monkeyfuzz

            It’s meant to? It is a bird, what legs would you like it to have?

          • EarthenWarrior

            They just look awkward

      • at least 4 to 9025 people

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      I looks so good

      • Monkeyfuzz

        It does, I hope it has its shiny form in the game.

    • Ultron

      Still won’t buy this tbh

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Did you buy the WiiU one?

        • Ultron

          No. Idk, it didn’t grab me. From what I’ve heard it’s a so-so game

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Maybe they improved more than just the character roster? I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

          • Ultron

            At least Decidueye is getting some limelight finally!

    • Nintendalek42

      Never been a fan of pokken’s eerie realistic textures but there’s literally no pokémon I wanted more in the game so I’m absolutely sold. Would rather have been able to get the fighters as Wii U DLC but oh well, I completely understand why they’re doing all these enhanced ports (just thinking of the switch v Wii U install base and the amount of people that will get to discover these awesome games), and this enhanced port actually has new content worth a purchase, unlike Mario Kart.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        I think it works really well on Decidueye. I didn’t even really look at what Mario Kart has tbh, because I don’t have money for it anyway.

        • Nintendalek42

          Tbf it has what looks to be the best battle mode any mk game has ever had (with all the different modes from previous games and a new one) to replace the joke that was Mario Kart 8’s, but apart from that all it has is a few new characters (basically glorified skins) and a few tweaks. No new cups just killed it for me. Call me a sucker but I don’t mind buying switch ports if they actually have exciting new content (read gameplay possibilities). More visual options and a new multiplayer mode are not enough for a full price purchase. Hopefully someday it’s reduced, then I’ll pick it up. That or them releasing new DLC (FFS Ninty the MK8 DLC was phenomenal, not continuing to milk that cow is just bone-headedly stupid-I’M READY TO BUY YOUR PORT TO GET NEW DLC FOR HEAVENS SAKE). Ahem.

    • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

      That Donkey Kong tho! XD

  • EarthenWarrior

    This day is just not getting better
    I got a call from the bank saying that somebody HAS been using my card, now I gotta get a whole new one and go through the hassle of putting the information into my renewals
    FAN FUCKING TASTIC

  • So, Gen 1 was on VC, then S/M came out and Bank could send Pokemon to it.
    Also Gen 1 Pokemon got alolan forms.
    So, Gen 2 probably will be able to send pokemon to US/UM.
    So it’s possible Gen 2 pokemon can get alolan forms.
    Same rules though, ones without evolutions past gen 2, ones without megas, and none of the legends/mythicals. Though theres not many gen 2 in the Alolan dex, so maybe an expansion too.

  • The Star happiness cycle

    Chill > Gets mad/upset about something > Turns into depression > Realizes she’s just unhappy > Sad > Youtube > Chill > repeat

    • EarthenWarrior

      Angry
      Angry
      Blistering fury
      Angry
      Pissed
      Pissed
      Emotional turmoil
      Sulking depression

    • Pokemania88

      Really hyped> disappointed real quick> thinks heavily> gets really hyped again>forgets about it for awhile> gets disappointed when experiencing it first hand> gets hype again

  • Monkeyfuzz
  • Ithsme?

    After I’ve had some time to think it over, I’m actually pretty hyped for USUM. SM were great games as they were, and given the opportunity to polish and build onto that, I’m sure they’ll be great. That being said, they way that it was presented in the direct was incredibly messy. I understand that GF values the element of suprise, but that doesn’t mean they should’ve been ambiguous on nearly every point, including what the game actually is. Even though E3 is only a week away and we’ll likely hear something about the games then, the way they presented these games created a seemingly negative reaction from a large chunk of the community, and that’s not what they should be aiming for in terms of first impressions.

    Overall, I think we really just need to wait and see what these games actually entail before jumping to any major conclusions, but the direct didn’t present the games well at all, and I fear that will hurt them in the long run.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      It really was poor the way it was executed. Really doesn’t inspire much and negative reaction is kind of understandable, at least to me.

      • Ultron

        It felt like an afterthought. It took me a minute to realize they were even talking about a new game

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Exactly. The problem is it was tagged on to like 2 minutes of Pokken stuff, then didn’t really tease much.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I’m one of the people defending it by saying it’s just a teaser but even I think the transition should’ve been smoother :/

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I think teasing it separately in another video would’ve stood out more.

  • EarthenWarrior

    ARRGGHHHHH THE LOSING STREAK

  • Ultron

    Do you think it’s a reach to think Zygarde might actually get a role in the story this time around? The rainbow diamonds on these new forms reminds me of Zygarde Complete’s rainbow zigzag.

    Also @spectralseraph:disqus my phone could hardly load the comments earlier when we were talking, but I hope they give Team Skull a more integral role in the plot this time around. They didn’t really do anything related to Ultra Space and the Beasts, which the plot should focus on from the get go

  • Haxford

    HEEEY I’m back!
    It’s been so long, but now with the news I just have to post!
    How’s everyone doing? Do you remember me? 🙂

    • hey fam

    • Pokemania88

      HAXFORDDDDDDD

      YAYYYYYY

    • FedEx

      Welcome back!!

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Of course we remember you 😉

    • MenacingCascoon

      Heyyy Haxford! More fun articles coming!!

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Yoo

    • PercyEspeon

      Hey 😀 I returned today too, but I might be more on/off than the last two times I was here

  • EarthenWarrior

    WHY DOES EVERY THING FUCKING BLOW UP IN MY FACE
    LOST FIVE MATCHES RUINING MY STREAK AND EVERYTHING IS GETTING WORSE

  • Haxford

    I really don’t know what to think of Necrunala and Necroleo. The arms on both of these forms just look off. The helmet of Necroleo also looks so weird… I hope I’ll get used to them soon. Definitely will buy this game though! Depends on other factors which one, since Necroleo is making me doubt choosing Sun again. What’s your opinion?

    • Dicie

      Designs are weird as hell, can’t even argue with that. Not sure if I’ll be buying these until I see some more gameplay, but when has Gamefreak ever disappointed?



      Don’t answer that.

      • Haxford

        Well they have to fuck up a lot to ruin this generation. I have faith in them that these games will be great, but I doubt they will be exceeding SM.

        • Dicie

          SM had this feeling to it, not quite perfection, but something that really stuck out from the other games. It reminded me of how in awe I was when I played through Black and White way back when. Maybe it’s the storyline or the atmosphere, but it was just a pleasure to play through. Whatever changes may be made this time around, hopefully that spirit of Alola still shines through it all and makes me want to put 70-80 more hours in.

      • i want to tho

    • MenacingCascoon

      I feel the exact same, the arms just throw it all off. If they just added the black shields it would be fine, but the arms are just so random. Def dont like either at ll.

      • Haxford

        I know right… I sometimes wish other people would work at their designing team. I mean I get how hard something like that could be, but how can you just randomly add Necrozma’s arms on the other designs? How high were they?

        Maybe when we see them in 3d things will add up. I mean when I first saw Xerneas for example I wasn’t happy, now it’s in my top 3 legendaries.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Tbh Necrozma wings on Solgaleo seem to be trying to invoke a griffin appeal

          But tbh the hands are what out me off Lunala a bit :/

          • Haxford

            I can see that. It’s just that I think the angular design of Necrozma is really ugly and that I feel like they ruined the beautiful designs of Solgaleo and Lunala. They should have added black ‘armor’ and have it incorporated in the body. Just copy-pasting body parts of Necrozma on the designs is just not pretty.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Ehh tbh I think they did the best they could do with the whole ‘Necrozma splits apart to make armor’ gimmick, but I do agree that even some minor edits to it rather than straight pull Necrozma apart + paste could of made them even better

  • TheMonster6893

    Ok…..I’m home and I’ve watched the USUM trailer in full now that I’m not at work. My thoughts are conflicted…….While there really isn’t any Pokemon game I don’t like (minus many parts of DP lol) I have to say at first glance I’m a little disappointed…….I wish we knew more about the games……while on one hand to some degree it seems different than a regular 3rd game it also has all the hallmarks of one and to me that’s a little sad. When GF stated that they didn’t want to do 3rd version anymore because they were predictable I was really happy. I’d rather not have a game that is basically a better version of one that I played less than a year earlier come out………At that point they should have put more in the original games…….Maybe I’m just jumping to conclusions and USUM will be more interesting than I think they will be. I’m a Pokemon whore so I’ll prolly buy US, but I want myself to WANT to buy it……..lol

    • TheMonster6893

      I really don’t mean to be negative……hahaha

      • Ultron

        I understand you. I’m not particularly excited for these just yet. It’s disappointing they would give us an update rather than answer the questions we have with a sequel. But, alas, these are the cards we’ve been dealt and I’ll take something over nothing. I just hope they fix the post game and story.

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        You’re disappointed, and it’s fine. Your being civil about it and there nothing wrong with that.

  • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

    Anyone want a battle? We need one more for a Royal

    • MenacingCascoon

      Me

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        Yep you Seraph we need one more it can be anyone

    • Ultra Seraph

      FUCK I PASSED OUT IM SO SORRY

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        Its ok we still need one more

        • Ultra Seraph

          I see

  • Dicie

    I think we all wanted to see Sun and Moon in higher quality graphics and with some of the framerate issues polished up. Emulators have shown that the 3DS quality is compromised in order for the games to actually run, but I think that’s where the root of most people’s problems came from. For me, Battle Royal is practically unplayable and I couldn’t help but feel disappointed when a climactic Totem battle was slowed down tremendously. By bringing these games to Switch, we could’ve seen some of these concepts in a new light… but I guess we’ll have to wait. Unless US/UM are optimized in some way for the New 3DS / New 2DS? I don’t think they have the capability of running the games any better, though.

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Tbh I think that GameFreak could always brush up their code to try and get it running a bit smoother, or even choose to represent the Totems at least (seeing as they’re required for story) with a simpler graphic than their elaborate Aura. Like a smaller Aura or something.

      • Dicie

        Yeah, that would just make for a smoother overall experience. Hopefully USUM aren’t carbon copies in that regard, but we’ll have to see.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Hopefully they’ll be optimised a bit, Platinum was iirc (probs remembering wrong) and a lot of people complained about DPPt’s loading and stuff

          Tbh even if they enhance it for N2/3DS, the people who invested in stronger consoles should at least get a bit of a smoother experience :/

          • Dicie

            Absolutely right. Hopefully these technical changes are addressed prior to launch, because it’s a pressing concern for sure.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            To be honest if it makes the switch and Pokémon then either moves onto consoles or hybrids I think the technical issues wouldn’t be too bad, but you’d be sacrificing portable convenience.

            Hopefully they’ll keep it on hybrids and handhelds though, but in that case graphics and other technical issues become more worrisome… Hopefully it’s just because the main series crew is still relatively new to full 3D and they grow out of it :/

  • Ultron

    How would you guys perfect Sun and Moon?
    -Battle Frontier
    -More Islands for post game
    -Less cutscenes in the beginning
    -Better maps for the trial areas
    -Rework the plot entirely. It was poorly paced.
    -Give Team Skull some plot relevance because they pretty much did absolutely nothing.
    -We hardly got to know the AF as well…
    -Po town revamp in the post game.

    • Pokemania88

      Literally, I loved every aspect of the game except:

      Team skull relevance

      POST GAME
      POST GAME
      POST GAME
      POST GAME

      • Ultron

        Pretty much. The Ultra Beast capture thing wasn’t all that interesting..

        • Pokemania88

          and that was literally it. Besides the Battle Tree…. Which was literally fun for 4 minutes

          • Ultron

            The main problem with the battle tree is that they hyped it to be this awesome new feature, when it’s just a reskinned battle tower

      • Ultra Seraph

        Which may be fixed

    • Dicie

      Definitely Battle Frontier, more Team Skull, reworked protagonist animations (dude smiled throughout the whole game and that was annoying), and new Pokemon (evos/pre-evos). I don’t care much about more Z-Moves or Alola Forms, and I think that asking for more islands might be a stretch. It’s still not clear what these games are, though, whether they’re sequels and will revamp the world like BW2 or remakes with few changes like Emerald/Platinum.

      • Ultron

        I’m really inclined to say they’re sequels because there are two versions…but who knows at the current moment

        • Dicie

          It would seem unusual to have a PAIR of remakes, so I hope you’re right! I’d love to see Alola in a different light, however that may be. The region definitely felt small to me… new locations might not happen, but a Gym system would be wonderful. Just to add more depth to the actual battling part of the games. The fact that these games are practically driven by the Ultra Beasts, or at least Necrozma, leaves me little hope that Hawaii’s actual culture will be explored, but I can live without that.

          • Ultron

            Yeah, but at least they seem to be expanding upon the UB’s, which is what I really wanted SM to do

        • TheMonster6893

          I think there’s tow versions simply because SM has the time difference to deal with. If it was a single game then they’d need to figure out the time difference and that would be messy

          • Ultron

            Ugh..you’re right. Unless they had an option at the beginning asking if you wanted to start during the day or night. The Day/night feature actually hardly played a part in the story. During the pre-release they made it seem like it’d alter the story, but it really didn’t

          • TheMonster6893

            Yeah………yeah…..*sigh*……lol

          • what? Just make it normal time

          • TheMonster6893

            Yeah, but then for people that played Moon that would make their game’s time irrelevant

          • Ultron

            There’s always the time flipping feature in the post game at least

          • TheMonster6893

            Maybe…….I suppose we’ll just have to wait and see what these games are like before coming to any major conclusions.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Tbh the time flipping was so convenient

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          I think expansion is a better guess tbh but I’m praying sequels XD

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      – BF
      – Better Battle Tree
      – Better story (SM story wasn’t that good)
      – More Pokemons
      – Night route themes
      – More post game
      – Longer Main quest
      – Zygarde with more relevance

      • Ultron

        Yes, gimme a story with Zygarde! Such a cool pokemon deserves a cool story

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Something more than just a plain fetch quest tbh

          • Ultron

            A cutscene with it fighting something *o*

          • Dicie

            Zygarde vs. Necrozma

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            I’d pay to watch that

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Ultra-Zygarde 😮

            It’s probably fit it more than the Alola legends tbh considering it already has a multicoloured area and black parts

    • EarthenWarrior

      Burn the region to the ground
      Dance on its ashes
      Forcefully breed the conception of the perfect Ground/Fighting type
      Murder everyone and everything
      Murder anybody who gets in my way or bests me

      • Ultron

        If that is what you wish

        • EarthenWarrior

          Just once in my fucking miserable existence I would like hints to go remotely my way

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I’d like to choose between Pokeride and route music, since that got old fast.

      • Ultron

        Yessss

    • PercyEspeon

      Only thing that I would do is Team Skull. As much as I liked Aether being dark, I wish that it was just only Team Skull and Lusamine uses them to fulfill her goals without Aether knowing.

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Tbf, most Aether employees are completely innocent. Most of the ones you fight (or maybe closer to around a half) just seem to be doing their jobs by keeping trainers out when asked to, and there’s plenty of Aether employees around Alola who talk to you perfectly normal, show remorse, had no idea, etc.

        Heck, some people called it in game a ‘darkness within Aether’ meaning it wasn’t Aether as a whole

        I do get where you’re coming from though. A pure ‘good’ team would be a nice change for once.

        • PercyEspeon

          I don’t mind it and it makes sense, as well as a great message about how a group can have good and bad people. However, I just felt like it wasn’t done right, you know? Other than Faba, but even with his slightly suspicious moments, still felt off.
          a ‘good team’ would be dope, tbh

      • Ultron

        I just want to know more about both

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Kinda just expand these except Team Skull tbh

      I liked how they were working for the Aether Foundation, and they did have a role in the plot: they capture Lillie and Nebby, getting them to Lusamine so she could fulfill her plans. But I also liked how for once we didn’t get an evil team centred around a legendary, because I kinda missed that from earlier games.

      • Ultron

        That’s true, but anyone could have kidnapped Lillie, it seemed rather easy. Maybe just explain their relationship to the AF better?

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Build on the relationship between Guzma and Lusamine and I think that’d immediately make it better

          • Ultron

            Yeah, I would like that a lot. Maybe Guzma help ruin her marriage xD

          • Pretty sure she thinks Mohn is dead so shes single

          • Ultron

            I want Mohn to have more story

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I’ll Mohn at GameFreak until they give him a story

          • He just needed a better name than Mohn

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I mean have you tried naminf guys after flowers? Nightmare.

          • PercyEspeon

            That too! I think all we had to establish their relationship was Plumeria saying “See, Guzma… he really likes the president. She’s the only adult who ever seemed to see how strong he was.” and Lillie responding that she only lavishes her love to those who are worthy/useful to her. I kind of wish we saw more, especially between them themselves.

    • Haxford

      I hope in USUM Team Skull has overruled the Aether Foundation and they ended their bond. They have a new leader who has risen to the top. Alola is a big mess and the Aether Foundation, now run by Gladion, is trying to stop TS from ruining all the touristic hotspots of Alola. Your parents (the heroes from SM) work for the Aether Foundation, but won’t let you help so you decide to destroy TS on your own.

      This will never happen…

      • Ultron

        That would actually make the AF way cooler than what we got!

      • Dicie

        See, this is where I stand conflicted on what these games actually are. Do they pick up after the events of SM or does it take place in an alternate timeline of sorts? One where Team Skull takes over or Lusamine is nice, etc.

        • Ultron

          Maybe…just maybe…these games take place in the Alola region but from the other side of Ultra Space. So it’s the Alola of the original RSE timeline.

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            That’d mean no Megas tho :/

          • Ultron

            That’s true. This IS complicated

          • when did pokemon become so complicated jeez

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            Since they started doing all this alternate dimension crap

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Tbh I think it’s a cute nod to why all these remakes, third versions, pairs can exist etc

            And I mean it’s not like it’s been super shoved in your face by the games

        • Haxford

          I hope they pick up where we left, seems more logical to me

    • MenacingCascoon

      IS all of thr above an option?
      Battle Frontier Definitely. ned I say my reason?

    • Ithsme?

      On that last point, better yet, how about a quest to rebuild Po town? Possibily of your own design?

      • Ultron

        That’s what I was saying! People seem to like the glum atmosphere though, but I would’ve liked to turn it into a training ground for grunts to take on the trials. I thought that would’ve been nice

  • Dicie

    On the bright side, we don’t have to wait 9 months for the games to come out! Consider it as already being halfway there 😉

    • TheMonster6893

      That’s true…….*sniff* lol

    • EarthenWarrior

      23 long fucking weeks
      If I don’t die from a heart attack

      • Dicie

        you got this

        • EarthenWarrior

          Tell that to my skyrocketing blood pressure

  • TheMonster6893

    So…….when do you think we’ll get our first actual info dump of the games………I wonder what their release schedule will look like. SM’s was pretty packed in the later half of the year

    • Ultron

      I doubt we’ll get much at E3. They waited rather long to announce these

      • TheMonster6893

        True. I’d say the next batch of info we get will be next month when the movie comes out.

    • Dicie

      CoroCoro might reveal the mascots again, but we can expect that to be it. E3 undoubtedly won’t have anything, so around the next movie seems like a good time. Maybe we’ll get another demo dump…

      • TheMonster6893

        Idk…..this CoroCoro is supposed to focus on Marshadow. I doubt they’ll focus too much on both of them at once

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    Also, I think it’s kinda neat that GF always seems to defy everyone’s expectations. We think there’s a third game in gen 5? NOPE SEQUELS! Sequels or a third game in gen 6? NOPE! SUN AND MOON INSTEAD. Stars or DP remakes at this direct? THINK AGAIN! We can speculate all we want, but we’re seldom right!

    • TheMonster6893

      Well…..These technically are Stars. “Stars” was the code name supposedly and while Eurogamer got the Switch part wrong they were right about them being a 3rd version like Yellow

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        I wouldn’t say that stars was code for USUM. Nothing but it being another addition to gen 7 is correct so far. The major thing about stars was that it was for the switch.

        • TheMonster6893

          It’s true they didn’t get the whole story correct, but they definitely said in their article that the game they talked about wasn’t actually called “Stars” and that it was in fact it’s production code name. Like how Niji (rainbow) was SM’s code name prior to it’s announcement. Either way I suppose it’s a moot point lol

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            What article?

          • TheMonster6893

            The Eurogamer article they released that started the “Stars” rumor. It originally came from them. It was then stated by a few other people. (at least to some degree)

  • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

    Guys food for thought

    What is Zygarde? The order Pokemon that controls an imbalance of the world

    Whats wrong in the Pokemon World atm? Necrozma and the Ultra Beasts

    So what if Zygarde this time will be relevant due to UB’s becoming worse in the world like Necrozma making Necroleo and Necrala to take over and Zygarde will step in and fight Alongside the Guardians of Alola?!

    • Dicie

      And then we travel to Kalos 😀

    • Gen 10:

      GUYS WHAT IF ZYGARDE APPEARS TO [insert plot thing from gen 10]

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        To be fair, this is only a Gen after it was introduced, it’s not that ridiculous

        • i know but im just kidding. they arent going to do anything with Zygarde though

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            Ehh I have a slight sliver of hope ;-;

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Tapus get Zygarde armour and become all hexagony.

    • EarthenWarrior

      That’s not true
      Zygarde monitors and protects the ecosystem

      • Blazing Sun Kurusu!

        Yet when trouble emerges it will fight the problem to regain the balance

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        ‘The ecosystem’ can include the whole world tho because the world is an ecosystem

    • Nintendalek42

      I’m not getting my hopes up because so far they’ve treated zygarde with very little care as a shoehorned survivor of cancelled Gen VI plans and GF are just never that clever or concerned with coherent worldbuilding, but this line of thought does have me intrigued. Nah though, I’ll eat my hat if GF don’t just do their usual crazy stuff and leave us to pull at the threads carelessly left hanging.

  • Haxford

    Oh my god I just remembered maybe we’re getting new Alola forms.
    I guess they have to be Kanto Pokemon that can’t be found in SM.
    Arbok (Water or Ground)
    Vileplume (Grass/Ghost or Grass/Dark)
    Dewgong (Water/Grass)
    Weezing (Fire)

    • Dicie

      New actual Pokemon > New Alola forms

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Kinda have to agree because the trailer kinda teased us with that XD

      • Ultron

        Agreed. I didn’t like the Alola forms we got too much

      • Haxford

        I really doubt we’re getting new Pokemon

        • Dicie

          The Direct said that we were getting “Pokemon that didn’t appear in Sun and Moon,” but that could be exclusive to the mascots like BW2, it could refer to Alola forms, or new ones altogether.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Could just mean we get something like Glameow, Cherubi, Krabby, etc and not anything actually new.

          • Dicie

            That’s true :/

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I would love to have new stuff though. But it may just go the way of BW2, which worked well there because BW had only new Pokemon, so mixing past gen Pokemon in in the sequels actually felt like some form of progression for the region.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      We don’t need any more Grass/Ghosts for now imo.

    • TheMonster6893

      Water Arcanine lol

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      They’d probably come from Johto considering that when SM came out, RB were released for the VC and now that USUM are revealed at the same time GS are revealed for the VC, it may be hinting at having Johto Alolan forms instead

    • MenacingCascoon

      Bug Water Butterfree.
      Maybe they can include some from other regions.

      • MenacingCascoon

        And actually Hawaii is known for not having any snakes, and they are fairly strict on it and make sure people dont bring them

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        I don’t think Pokémon already in the Dex will get Aloforms tbh, they could tho if it’s a separate time line tho 😮

        • MenacingCascoon

          Oh Yea I forgot Butterfree is in there. My bad lol

  • MenacingCascoon

    Hey mods, is there anyway to check why its lagging so bad.On my phone and Laptop Disqus barely loads and if it does it goes super slow

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    @starstorm295:disqus can I call you SM critical

    • not yet. wait until we get a real trainer then we’ll see

      • trailer*

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Just don’t end up like the actual SU critical lol :p

        • Which one?

          Actual criticism
          Or excuses to hate a family show

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            The ones where Sugar can breath and they’re on it

  • Haxford
    • TheMonster6893

      Solgaleo and Lunala look like they killed Necrozma and decided to wear it’s skin lol

      • Shady

        Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh

  • I think I might go with Sun version. Regular Lunaala is just a lot more pleasant to look at. If they are sequels though I guess I’ll stick with Moon

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      Tbf if you actually cross your sequels then you have the advantage of getting some Sun exclusive Pokémon you might of otherwise not gotten

      If we get new Pokémon or Alo forms that could be a problem tho

      • yeah but then the story will be screwed up. I got White 2 after getting Black version and it bugged me because Opolucid was totally different, N has MY Reshiram and a bunch of other things

        • Monkeyfuzz

          That’s why I got White and then White 2 even though I prefer Zekrom.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Except for Ultra Beasts and Sol/Lun I found everything really easy to trade for. By this I also mean because I could breed them after so they’d have my OT.

        • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

          Tru

  • Yoshi

    Gonna wait on more details to decide on whether or not I’m actually gonna buy US/UM.

  • MenacingCascoon

    I would Like to see more Side quests. And not like the stupid ‘side’quest of Lati@s in ORAS. That was super forced. I mean if you go in this area you activate this in game event. In game events are the best thing to experience if you have no idea what’s going on

    • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

      I’d love a full RPG sidequest system tbh

    • Nintendalek42

      Sidequests are a great way to make cool postgame content too, if they’re creative and engaging. Though just finding ultra beasts in the tall grass was pretty weak, the story part of that quest, and the more cryptic bits like the necrozma hints, were just great IMO. Why not give all the Battle Tree guest stars actual sidequests rather than just cameos? Who wouldn’t want that???

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    What things do you guys think are going to be expanded on, regardless its a sequel, updated version, etc

    I think we’ll probably get

    -More UB info
    -More info on the Aether family
    -Explanation for those empty plots (battle facilities? Gyms?)
    -Necrozma info (duh)

    And maybe

    -Zygarde info
    -Guzma/Plumeria info
    -Guzma/Lusamine info
    -Post-game Lillie info

    • let me hug lillie

    • PercyEspeon

      I just want to know more about my precious Lillie and Gladion.
      And Team Skull/Guzma/Lusamine/all that.
      But mostly Lillie and Gladion

    • MenacingCascoon

      OMG OMG OMG.
      I just thought of it… What if those spots are like the Battle Tents in Emerald. They each hold a beginning version of a battle facility and Post game it has Battle Frontier!
      There are 7 empty spots!! 7 frontier leaders!!
      GUYS

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Tbh even if those plots are empty throughout the main game but become facilities post game it’d be dope

        It’d be a bit annoying if the facilties are so spread out but at the same time they could each have interesting designs that match the area they’re in

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      I think we’ll probably get everything you listed and a fairy type trial

      And maybe some more info on Type: Null

  • Shady

    The only Image that’s coming to my mind …….I start to love Lunala few weeks ago but this made me sure about it she is looks like evil emperor ……Awesome! http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1496767326884.png http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1496778132926.png

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    You guys seen this art of the Ultra-Ultra Beasts? They look better in it imo

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fd6b953358d9dddf1e3806e0b66d9d031fb4433231827dd7e5d2574cc9bd0aec.jpg

    • i dont what what is what. they look so much better in game

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        I think Lunala’s body doesn’t compliment the armor well, you can’t spread it out like you can on Solgaleo so it looks really unbalanced imo

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Look even more like Zoids here.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Thanks to these images I’m now @vishkartechsupport:disqus

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Gusp 😮

        :p

    • Shady

      Is this an official art?

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Yeah

        • Shady

          Source?

          • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

            I’m away to bed but I’m pretty sure of it at least

            They’re too official looking to be fanart already tbh

          • Shady

            Good Night.

          • Ultra Seraph

            The Japanese site

    • MenacingCascoon

      Man its like no matter what I cant get into it. They just look so weird with those ARMS. No Thanks man. I will admit they look better in that though.
      Also did we ever find the last person?

      • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

        Ultra-Sol and Ultra-Lun confirmed for ARMS

        Also I’m not sure, I’m not part of that XD

    • Ultra Seraph

      Not like I’n using that Lunala pic a my profile pic already XD

    • MelloMori

      All I see is the White Liger from Zoids and a rejected Final Fantasy boss still. They just look So bad to me. Like really who gave the ok to these horrible designs. Some aspects of them work alright, but over all they just don’t really work.

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    So what Johto pokemon weren’t in Sun and Moon and would be likely contenders for alolan forms (though in an alternate timeline, they could have pokemon receive alolan forms who were normal in SM)?

    • furret please give my baby some love

      • EarthenWarrior

        That wiggily rodent makes a better doorstop or a duster

      • TheMonster6893

        What type would you give Furret? Maybe some ground typing or something? that’d be cool lol

        • anything he wants hes a good boy and its his birthday

          • TheMonster6893

            I do really like Sentret and Furret. It’s one of those Pokemon I’ve always wanted to use, but never got the chance. I feel that way towards many Normal types. They can be good, but I always go with a team full of elementals rather than the bland Normal types lol

          • I make sure to use him whenever I’m playing Johto

          • TheMonster6893

            I find that using Furret as a Ghost deterrent is a good move. Give it headbutt and Shadow claw and you’re good to go lol

      • PercyEspeon

        Yes please, now I want Alolan Johto mons just for Furret, Furret is percious and needs to be loved and cared for

        • Its hard living in a world where Furret is far too often overlooked

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Magcargo, Sunflora, Noctowl.

    • Haxford

      Noctowl, Jumpluff, Sunflora, Octillery, Stantler and Mantine.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Water/Steel Mantine.

    • MenacingCascoon

      Ghost Noctowl- Pueo
      Fire Octillery- Kanaloa
      Grass- Water Politoed
      Grass/Fairy/Fire/Water- Bellossom
      Cant think of more

  • Ultra Hyped! ʕっ0ᴥ0ʔっ

    Away to bed soon folks, so first I want to make predictions :p

    Ultra-Solgaleo will be Psychic/Fire with Prism Armor

    Ultra-Lunala will be Psychic/Ice with Prism Armor

    In a way, they’re almost opposites to the Kyurem forms. If I were to guess:

    Rather than being forms of the third legend caused by the main pair, it’s forms of the main pairs caused by the third legend.

    They aren’t true fusions – Kyurem forms are literal fusions of the two Pokémon, combining features. This looks more like power-up armor than anything.

    Finally, the new forms inherit the third legend’s ability rather than the main two’s abilities

    • Dicie

      If they are fusions, maybe Colress will be integrated into the plot somehow?
      Team Neo Neo Plasma? xD

  • Haxford
  • Haxford

    Imagine Necrunala without arms.
    It’d look so good…

  • TheMonster6893

    So the kind of game that USUM are aside……….I have one question about Necroleo and Necrunala……..WHY? I think their designs are cool enough, but I can’t figure out one reason they’d have any connection that would allow them to fuse/ wear Necrozma as armor……When Reshiram, Zekrom, and Kyrem fuse