I don’t know those boxes. Where can you buy them? Which companies sell them? On that it depends wether or not that can be used as an argument.

I can’t speak for bulba, just for the german wiki, where information only is supplied with credible source. The “source” for the info on the films I stated above.

I didn’t talk about the timeline or canonity of the movies, that’s another point.

The point still stands that they introduce new Pokémon for every gen in the movies, so I guess we will see another Pokémon besides Sylveon in movie 16.

And their official companies seem to say otherwise seeing as the Zorua movie is being sold as part as the Generation 5 movie bundles. The Generation 4 Movie bundles stopped after Arceus and included both the Lucario and Manaphi movies. They may come out before their respective generations, but the theme and showcase is of new Pokemon and getting the fans ready for a new generation.

As for Bulbapedia, while they are a great resource, not all of the information on there is 100% accurate. There are a lot of fan based opinions posted as facts simply because of a majority vote in favor. Many things such as species origin, Legendary groups (seeing as from Gen 3 and onward there is no actual canon proof from the directors other than slight allusions to many link ups), and bulbapedia, like every other resource site has to deal with improper edits with no basis other than pure speculation. They’ve cracked down on the last one a lot harder, but a lot of the information they post is still purely opinionated from the writer’s perspective.

While the movies do tie into the anime, None of the movies were Canon to the actual anime’s timeline. A few even break continuation with various pokemon on the character’s teams when they come out as opposed to where they currently are. I think TPC has done a much better job of making them closer, but none of the events from the movies are canon to the anime’s ,main timeline before the Master of Mirage episode where they are all just included.

Well, I respect your opinion, but the movies are linked to the anime. The anime is divided into four “series” in japan, which are linked to the generations. Original is for gen 1 and 2, advanced for gen 3, diamond and pearl for gen 4 and best wishes for gen 5. And the movies belong to the respective series which airs in japan when they come out in japan. So, the Lucario AND the Manaphy movie belong to gen 3, techincally. And the Zoroark movie belongs to gen 4. Look on pokewiki/bulba, they say the same ^^

They weren’t Gen 3 Movies though. Lucario was the release Pokemon for Generation 4 and his Movie was marketing the generation coming in next as there weren’t any other tie ins and all of Gen 3’s Big Legends had already had movies. Lucario was the first for the 4th Gen movies jut as Zorua was the first for the Gen 5 Movies. Doesn’t matter when the movies come out, if they are after the last legend and focusing on a new Pokemon for a new generation it belongs to the new generation.

Most of the time, not all the time, any character got an old Pokemon in a later gen, it turned into a new Pokemon on down the road. Ash got Aipom in Hoenn, it became Ambipom. May got Eevee, it became Glaceon, Ash got Gligar, it became Gliscor, a character just getting a random basic Sableye isn’t really building up to anything.

I hope nobody is taking my statement seriously anymore. I didn’t really mean it, I don’t even wanna see a new form for Mewtwo.

Actually, the Lucario movie came out more than one year before Diamond and Pearl. Even the Manaphy movie came out before those two. So, yeah, I would count them rather as Gen III movies. It’s very common for new Pokémon to star in films before the games are out. So, I guess we will see a surprise in movie 16 =)

The Lucario movie was the first Gen 4 movie, not the final. It came out before the Manaphi Movie and Rise of Darkrai. The Final Gen 4 Movie was Arceus and the Jewel of life which was made for the HG/SS series. It was after the last Gen 3 Movie which showcased Deoxys and Rayquaza.

In that episode he acknowledged that it was a Zorua, but he still pulled out his Pokedex on it. He did the same with a Charmander in yesterdays episode.