Ice isn’t just an elemental type to deal with in Pokémon, it can be a headache of sliding and slipping around in the overworld for trainers as well. The series didn’t always include ice on the ground though—it was first introduced to the series in Generation II games Pokémon Gold & Silver.

Evolution of Ice

When players first encountered ice in Pokémon games it wasn’t quite as, well, visually appealing as it became in later titles. In fact the Ice Path, where players had to navigate a tunnel with both rocks and frozen sheets of ice, didn’t look that different from many other cavernous areas. ‘Ice’ just looked like parts of the ground that were smooth and had diagonal lines.

This was ultimately rectified in the follow-up to Gold & SilverPokémon Crystal, which had a much more distinct look and really sold the icy feel of the route. It was much more immersive and looked like a place that Swinub and Delibird would actually reside in. It set the tone for how Game Freak wanted to portray colder zones in the future and let Ice-type fans have their own spot in the Pokémon world to call their own.

Not limited to routes, it was also used as a puzzle mechanic when challenging several gyms throughout the series. Challenging the Mahogany Gym in Johto, Snowpoint Gym in Sinnoh or Icirrus Gym in Unova (pictured above) all required players to slide their way through the gym and find the correct route to the Gym Leader at the end. Oddly enough though, Kalos’ Snowbelle Gym lacked a sliding puzzle; it remains the only Ice-type gym not to feature one.

Where there’s Ice, there’s Snow

Not content with keeping Ice-type Pokémon constrained in cold caves, Game Freak eventually added snow to their arsenal of route designs and several regions benefited from the change of scenery. First introduced in Generation IV’s Pokémon Diamond & Pearl, snow-covered routes forced Trainers to dismount their bikes and trudge through by foot. They also featured random encounters anywhere there was snow, similar to walking in caves or surfing over water. This meant repels were needed if you weren’t grinding experience or searching for Pokémon when you wanted to move unhindered.

In Pokémon X & Y the ante was upped further—players were now forced to get through the snow by riding a Mamoswine around! It was an interesting use of the new Pokémon riding mechanic introduced in Generation VI, but certainly slowed down exploration a bit. Plenty of dismounting and remounting the patient Mamoswine meant that adventurers weren’t going to finish exploring the route in a hurry. There’s also an entire city covered with snow, Snowbelle City!

Finally, players of the latest games, Pokémon Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon, may not be able to slide around on any ice puzzles, but they can see a bit of snow and some ice crystals when they climb up Mount Lanakila on the otherwise tropical island!

Fun world-building or unnecessary hindrance?

In the end there’ll probably be two camps of people: those that love ice and snow routes, and those that don’t. Even if you’re in the latter camp, I hope you’ve been able to see the love put in by the designers and how gameplay has evolved throughout the Pokémon series in regards to chilly climates and the many places Trainers now have to explore. As a kid I always loved sliding around and trying to figure out the puzzle on my own… although many times I’d just lose patience and consult the internet.

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  • Ultron

    I wish gamefreak was more creative with ice type. Really just tired of the “slide around the ice” puzzles they always include somewhere. Luckily we haven’t seen one since X&Y, but they’ll be back..I honestly love the routes to snowbelle city, they have great music and are unique. Though, like with the swampy areas in Sinnoh, getting stuck in the snow can be pretty annoying.

    I will say Unova did a nice job with ice and snow with the amazing inclusion of seasons :3 that needs to come back…kalos really suffered from having random routes go from fall to snow. You enter one builing in fall and come out the 10 feet away on the other side in winter..

    • Kalos is really The 4 seasons Hotel…

      • Ultron

        It’s ridiculous…no region is like that

  • LunaMoon

    I really like Ice-types but the ice places are kinda boring and annoying :/

  • EarthenWarrior

    The only Ice type place that holds any deeper significance is the lowest part of Shoal caves

    When I was a brain dead kid I tried my luck everyday for the Ice part to be accessible (I cling to my RS prima strategy guide but I just wasn’t a smart kid growing up) but very few luck it was only a year later I learnt it was a time based event and my internal battery dried out

    • I almost cried when I learned I could never catch Snorunt because of that

      Though it taught me that I love Walrein

  • Monkeyfuzz

    I dislike Ice Puzzles, I like the idea but I’m not good at them and end up frustrated. I liked that we could ride on Mamoswine but the feature was a bit clunky, same with Rhyhorn one the other route. I always enjoy the beauty and effort of ice routes, though I’m not such a fan of forced hail every battle on some of them. I think Lanakila is largely a waste of an ice route, though I have yet to visit it in USUM. I think Ice routes are a good addition, Unova did well with seasonal Winter Ice routes, I just like them to have fun elements rather than being a pain to trudge through. If Gen 8 doesn’t have one I will be annoyed.

    • Ariel

      I hope they bring back seasons honestly, that was such a neat feature and they can do so much with it.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        It really was, I enjoyed all the differences, made going back to previous areas seem more exciting.

  • ShinyXatu

    That’s one thing about the 3DS generations that I really didn’t like: the puzzles were basically nonexistent. The ones that are present are laughable. I always liked pushing around the ice blocks for some reason, and it just felt like Pokémon to me. For Gen 8, I’d love for them to bring back some challenging overworld elements and stop doubting the intelligence of the player.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Am I unintelligent because I struggle with the Ice puzzles https://media.giphy.com/media/hppWdK8gcmzXq/giphy.gif ?

      • ShinyXatu

        I think it’s good if you struggle because at least the game forces you to think. I haven’t had to really put that much focus into anything in Pokémon until USUM’s occasional tough battle (because I chose not to use Z-Moves and all of that nonsense).

        • Monkeyfuzz

          It’s not even that I have to think that much with them, I just end up mis-clicking all the time and then having to start again. I tend not to use Z-moves, partly because they take so long.

  • Monkeyfuzz

    Y’know what would be cool, an Ice village, maybe based on the Inuit, where there are roaming Swinub and Piloswine that are used to find hot springs as an actual mini-game, or just like Tauros and Miltank on ranches. I think there is alot of room for new forms of Ice related areas. Ice fishing could be good, under ice diving maybe, igloos would be nice.

  • MenacingCascoon

    I love snow and Ice routes. Experience all the beauty of the snow and ice without having to be actually cold. I wish they did more with them though. It’s almost always one or two places post game. I like how in Sinnoh the whole route to snowpoint was all snow. It felt like it fit. Rather than something like the place in Kalos where it was sunny one routeand snow in the next with no logical sense. I also wish they made ice a little more early game. I dont see why it’s so late game all the time.
    But I do believe all the ice areas in pokemon were amazing. Icy cave, and Shoal Cave were probably the worst because it felt so random to just have a snow cave out of nowhere. I personally like Ice puzzles, and I dont see how they could change it.
    Though the pokemon may not be the best, the terrain of snow/Ice is just amazing. Can’t wait to see 216 on Switch graphics.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8cLW0Lckhc
    Sinnoh NAILED the theme. Perfectly fits the Ice.

    • Josh Omega

      I will always love hoenn and sinnoh the most! Hoenn being my first region I explored and sinnoh being the first time I really knew what I was sort of doing! I seriously am excited for the eventual sinnoh remakes! Probably won’t happen until like 2020 but still!

    • LunaMoon

      Oh I thought it was some sort of new game….turns out it’s just a stupid pillow.

  • Re:Seraph

    Fangame areas going up later

  • How dare you forget sea foam islands

    • LunaMoon

      What gen are they from? Gen 4? 2? 3? 6? 5? 1? 7?

      • red blue green yellow Fire Red Leaf Green

        And I think gen 2 not sure if they removed it

        • LunaMoon

          Ah ok.

        • Natale

          HGSS as well

  • Natale

    God I love Ice path in HGSS, the music, the ambience, the puzzles, the art and mapping. Everything :0

    • Monkeyfuzz

      They definitely ranked it up from GS and even Crystal.

  • EarthenWarrior

    On the subject of cold snowy frictionless levels in gaming I want to compile my top 5 favorite/memorable Ice themed worlds in gaming (that I’ve played)

    5: Dun Morogh (World of Warcraft) as a Dwarf I started my journey in the chilly mountains of Dun Morogh, Fighting Troggs and Ice Trolls and making my way to the great Dwarven city of Ironforge

    4: Snowhead Temple (Twilight Princess) the experience was different a mix of treacherous snow topped cliffs, a loving yeti couple and finding a wheel of cheese,

    3: Sherbert Land (Mario Kart 64) let’s face it anyone who grew up with an N64 and played the famous racing game have either cursed their mouth off bumping into penguin or missing the right turn in the caves or fallen in the water and was frozen solid

    2: Cool Cool Mountain (Super Mario 64) the pure nostalgia of racing down a Icy slide, trying to find the sweet spot for the cannon and delivering lost penguin babies (who I occasionally threw off a cliff for fun once or twelve times)

    1: Hailfire Peaks Icy Side (Banjo Tooie) without a doubt one of the levels I spent the most time in by choice, the music the landscape and learning the very use Glide ability, I almost put down Freezeezy Peak but I just liked Hailfire Peaks so much more

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Snowpeak Ruins*

      • EarthenWarrior

        Shut up

  • InfinityD4

    Seaward Cave is Cold(at least in Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon)

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Yep, Smoochum is there now so I think it counts.

  • InfinityD4

    I was reading Bulbapedia for Fun and Realized how Weird it is that the Good Rod is in Fuchsia but the Super Rod is on Route 13, ONE OF THE TWO POTENTIAL ROUTES TO FUCHSIA.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I think I often got the super rod first, then when I got the good rod I was like “well that’s nice I guess”.

  • Re:Seraph

    Phoenix Grace- The first time the user is knocked out by an attack, its health is restored to half. However, it is forced to switch with another teammate.

    Climatic- It will change form to match the weather.

    Temperate- Immune to ice and fire attacks

    Frostbite- If a foe is frozen, all moves used by this Pokémon will be critical hits.

    Aurora Winds- The Aurora veil status is set up whenever this Pokémon enters battle

    • Ariel

      Love that first ability

      • Re:Seraph

        😀

    • Monkeyfuzz

      The second is a rename of forecast right?

      • Re:Seraph

        Don’t spoil the secret ;3

    • InfinityD4

      Temperate is just a strictly better Thick Fat.

      • Re:Seraph

        yee

  • InfinityD4

    Idea: Steel Type Thermostat Pokemon

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Maybe it’s either Fire or Ice too depending on the weather?

      • InfinityD4

        Thats the Idea 🙂
        also maybe if it holds a corresponding item/uses a move of that type

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Hm, you could make it like Rotom I guess, or a lesser Protean type ability.

  • InfinityD4

    Move Idea: Chill Out
    The User Unleashes a Blast of Extreme Cold upon the target, the Target is frozen if it hits.

  • LunaMoon

    Personally I prefer Arendelle, it’s so royal and has actual stuff unlike those dumb ice caves.

  • InfinityD4

    Snow Encounters weren’t a thing in Gen 4… they’re only a thing on Kalos Route 17

    • LunaMoon

      Huh. The more that you know, the more you can sow.

      • InfinityD4

        I’m just saying the Article is Wrong.

    • Sunniera 2.0

      That is odd. I remember them in Diamond.

      • InfinityD4

        there’s Grass on Routes 216 and 217, and Acuity Lakefront.

        • Sunniera 2.0

          No I rememeber the snow encounters and how aggravating they were

          • InfinityD4

            Bulbapedia says otherwise, altough the snow is INSANELY SLOW to tread through, THANK ARCEUS FOR FLY.

  • ShinyXatu

    I finally decided what to do about Christmas…I’m getting my family two Google Home Minis since I’d like to introduce the whole smart home concept to them. It’s a double whammy because I’ll be the alpha male when I get the Google Home Max next year 😛

  • InfinityD4

    Anyone here heard of Pretty Cure?

    • Monkeyfuzz

      No but I could do with an ugly cure.

      • InfinityD4

        Anime.

  • InfinityD4

    Favorite Legend of Each Gen(Legend Specifically, Ignoring Mythical Pokemon like God)?

    • Monkeyfuzz

      1. Zapdos
      2. Raikou
      3. Latios
      4. Uxie
      5. Zekrom
      6. Xerneas
      7. Solgaleo

    • Chaos

      I don’t know which ones count as Legends, and which ones are ‘Mythical’.

      • InfinityD4

        Mythics are Event-Only… so Mew, Volcanion Etc.

      • Feliz Navidad

        Anything that is event exclusive (or Deoxys) is mythical, everything that’s in game is legendary. Silvally is a legend (which you probably know), yet Phione and Ultra Beasts are debated legends.

        • InfinityD4

          Silvally is Weird, what reason does it have for being so? other than being a Genetically Engineered Pokemon Designed to Kill Ultradimensional Threats and also based on GOD.

          • Feliz Navidad

            Probably its power and rarity

          • InfinityD4

            Either way it’s a Legend on a Technicality.

          • Feliz Navidad

            The shiny silvally distribution refers to it as a legend. It is a legend. Being artifical didn’t stop Mewtwo or Magearna from obtaining their status.

          • Magearna’s a Mythical though

          • InfinityD4

            Magearna is Mythical… and Mewtwo is a DIRECT CLONE of a mythical pokemon.

          • Feliz Navidad

            Mythical and legendary are rarity terms, they’re pretty much the same thing lore and power wise.

        • Chaos

          Where would Keldeo stand? Is it Mythical cos its and event or legendary since the rest of the Muskateers are available in-game?

          • InfinityD4

            Events are Mythical… it’s always been that way in Japan and International followed suit recently.

          • Feliz Navidad

            It’s mythical because it’s event exclusive. Imo it’s kinda dumb and doesn’t really matter, especially because Keldeo and Darkrai are part of a group with (a) legend(s) and thus the title is pretty much pedantics

          • In sequels or Remakes they should do a Deoxys

            Turn from Mythical to Legendary

          • Chaos

            Lol, exactly what i was getting at. I’ve always referred to them all as Legends. In my opinion all Mythicals are Legends, but not all Legends are Mythical (if that makes sense to anyone)

          • Feliz Navidad

            That’s exactly how I feel. It’s a subsection of legend based on rarity, not a totally different grouping.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Simple

        Legend is it can be found naturally in game

        Mythical if by event

    • InfinityD4

      1.Articuno
      2.Lugia
      3.Reggie-Ice
      4.ANTIMATTER JESUS
      5.Virizion
      6.DEATH BIRB.
      7.NEBBY

    • Chaos

      Mewtwo
      Ho-Oh
      Groudon
      Heatran
      Zekrom
      Yveltal
      Necrozma

    • ShinyXatu

      Zapdos
      Entei
      Latias
      Regigigas
      Kyurem
      Mewtwo X (if it counts)
      Tapu Fini

    • 1. Mewtwo
      2. Suicune
      3. Registeel
      4. Dialga
      5. Terrakion
      6. Zygarde
      7. Tapu Bulu

    • Feliz Navidad

      Mewtwo
      Raikou
      Kyogre
      Mesprit
      Virizion
      Zygarde
      Tapu Lele

    • Articuno
      Lugia
      Rayquaza
      Giratina
      Reshiram
      Xerneas
      Lunala

      • InfinityD4

        so you like Antimatter Jesus as well I see.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Zapdos (I guess)
      Pass
      Groudon
      Palkia
      Landorus
      Zygarde
      Solgaleo

      • Why not Zygarde? Has it caused you too much grief?

        • EarthenWarrior

          I honestly forgot of Zygarde

          • InfinityD4

            It’s even a Ground Type!

          • EarthenWarrior

            I’m having a mentally rough day

          • It seems and acts more like a Gen.7 Pokémon tbh

          • InfinityD4

            I mean they did skip Giving it it’s own Game(s?) to Go to Hawaii, and then it showed up there for no real reason even though it’s on the other Side of the F’n World from France

          • Well it does go and reside close to where order will go amok soon

        • Chaos

          Because Zygarde-Complete was so broken and it was hilarious how no one saw it coming.

          • InfinityD4

            It’s the Only Pokemon(to my Knowledge, but not written on it’s BP page) that Gains HP via a Forme Change.

          • I loved it in Volcanion’s movie

          • Chaos

            I loved the Zygarde Arc at the end of the Kalos Anime.

          • Meh until the end it was kind of pointless tbh

            Squishy was a big role in about 5 episodes before the final 5 some

          • I still think Ash-Greninja will pull a Charizard and rescue Ash in world ending disaster then leave again

          • Chaos

            I didn’t watch the rest of the anime, hell i even skipped over the league. But that Arc in my opinion redeemed Team Flare and Zygarde to an extent.

          • I only still liked Xerosic, who was a complete psycho

          • EarthenWarrior

            Member my old theory about Zygarde’s special power was a planetary reset?

          • InfinityD4

            You had a Theory Zygarde was Sailor Saturn?

          • EarthenWarrior

            I don’t know jack about sailor moon

            My theory was that it’s power was that if humans harmed the ecosystem that it would deem humanity unworthy and destroy the planet from the inside out and hope that the life born from the ashes would fair better

          • So kind of like the Ragnarok from Norse Mythology?

          • EarthenWarrior

            Humans failed to respect and cherish the land therefore they must be purged

          • InfinityD4

            Sailor Saturn’s Job/Power is to Nuke Everything…

          • Chaos

            I actually don’t remember, sorry.

            The only thing i do remember however is everyone laughing at Complete-Zygarde’s stats, and me deciding to use a Sub-Coil in OU once it was released.

      • Feliz Navidad

        You don’t like Entei? I thought it’d be right up your alley :0

        • EarthenWarrior

          Ehhhh I’m a firm hater of the Legendary Beasts

          ESPECIALLY THAT CHEAP FREAKING SUICUNE

          • Feliz Navidad

            Love Suicune most of the time

            Absolutely hate it in comp

          • EarthenWarrior

            Seriously Scald makes it a billion times worse

            It’s just so unfair it doesn’t even care about damaging it just has to wait for 30% burn

            Same with Toxapex

          • Competitively Suicune is evil

            Design wise, best of Gen.2 Legendaries

    • Natale

      Articuno
      Lugia
      Kyogre
      Giratina
      Zekrom
      Yveltal
      Tapu Koko

    • LunaMoon

      Gen 1: Articuno

      Gen 2: Ho-Oh

      Gen 3: Kyogre

      Gen 4: Dialga

      Gen 5: Meloetta

      Gen 6: Xerneas/Diancie

      Gen 7: Lunala

    • MenacingCascoon

      Articuno- Es beautiful
      Lugia- Es powerful
      Rayquaza- Es iconic
      Dialga-Es Steel
      Reshiram- Es Blue
      Xerneas- Es ok
      Solgaleo- Es the best

    • Ultron

      Mew
      Raikou
      Rayquaza? Idk honestly
      Darkrai
      Victini
      Zygarde
      Zeorora

      • Monkeyfuzz

        You included like 4 mythicals.

        • Ultron

          They have best designs boi :3 I almost put jirachi for gen 3

          • MenacingCascoon

            Mythicals are not Legendaries. Mythicals are not legendaries. Mythical are no legendaries. Mythicals are not legendaries.

          • Ultron

            YOURE NOT A LEGENDARY.

          • LunaMoon

            IMO they’re subspecies of Legendaries.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            That may be but the question states not to include them.

          • Ultron

            I thought it meant like Arceus 🙁

      • Ultron

        Migt change darkrai for giratina origin…hard call

    • Gamer Dragon07

      Gen 1: Moltres
      Gen 2: Lugia
      Gen 3: Latias
      Gen 4: Dialga
      Gen 5: Reshiram
      Gen 6: Yveltal
      Gen 7: Lunala

    • PumpkinLord

      Gen 1: Mew
      Gen 2: Lugia
      Gen 3: Rayquaza
      Gen 4: Giratina
      Gen 5: Reshiram
      Gen 6: Yveltal
      Gen 7: Necrozma

      Edit: Forgot mew is a mythical so mewtwo for gen 1.

  • InfinityD4

    You know it really bothers me how you can’t name yourself Platinum in Platinum Because trainer names are ONE CHARACTER too short.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Never for me >:3

      I only need 3 characters or 7

    • Lucky me I go by a few names in games

      Male: Alex (My real name), Kurusu and Wally

      Female: Normally one of my female friends names

    • InfinityD4

      It fits in Japanese is the Thing, because Pu Ra Chi Na is 4 characters and they give you 5

    • ShinyXatu

      You could do Pla’num, it’s close enough…assuming you can use an apostrophe.

      • MenacingCascoon

        Or just Platnum barely a difference lol

    • LunaMoon

      You could go for Plato, short for Platinum.

      • InfinityD4

        This is My Second Platinum Run and I went with Dwan this time so I called her platina, Plato is the Semi-Official Optional Name according to bulbapedia.

  • EarthenWarrior

    I think after work I’m just gonna stay in my room for 24hrs straight

    They’re constantly on my ass for EVERYTHING today

    • I wish I could do that, but oddly my wants revolve differently than my families

      When I want to have quiet time and peace, they need me and are my a$$ about everything

      When I want to spend time with my family, they shoo me away and want to neglect me

  • LunaMoon

    I want to post something random.

    • MenacingCascoon

      Congratulations. You just did it! Your reward? Nothing because this comment is as pointless as a reward would be!

      • You can’t say that a lot of us don’t post random or pointless content all the time though.

        • Natale

          Except the random things we post can generate actual discussions and aren’t filler really :I

          • Then why do most of mine never generate discussions

            (Typical day in the Jungle)
            *Kurusu posts question or cool idea
            (Gets a few likes and 1-2 comments if lucky)
            *Star posts random thing or art
            (10 likes and starts big convo)

          • Feliz Navidad

            Because Star either posts when it’s more active or people here just prefer her content over yours.

          • But Seraph could post Showdown videos and get convo’s starting

            I could do the same and get flat out ignored (I find times where some people are here)

          • Natale

            Dude, out of every 20 or so showdown posts that Seraph makes, only one or two get convos starting, he just gets lucky to say the least

          • Feliz Navidad

            Because other people here are really into showdown, and as Kuppo says, he posts a lot of those so there bound to get responses

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I think I’ve watched and commented on more of your stuff tbh. Don’t be too disheartened if you don’t get a response. If we are talking about being ignored then I am quite alot, but then I’m not interesting so I understand why.

          • I actually was just thinking something about you.

            How did you not win Kindest Jungler? You don’t pick fights, you always keep your comments fresh (I honestly love commenting on your stuff), you also look over everyone’s stuff to make sure you missed nothing good

            You say your boring, but you’re wrong in so many ways. You probably should be one of the last to be ignored Pokejunglers with how awesome you are.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Well that’s nice of you to say. I don’t know that there was a competition, I just post as myself tbh. I don’t like people to feel bad, even if I know I can’t help everyone, I often don’t know what to say and get muddled quite alot.

          • Its alright to get muddled and to be yourself, everyone gets muddled from time to time . It means alot to me when I get comments from you, it makes me know someone cares about me or hasn’t forgotten me.

          • Natale

            Because people are more interested on Star’s art because it took her more effort and people appreciate that. And because your cool ideas is in form of long texts that a lot of people don’t read (me) (sorry)

    • Don’t

  • LunaMoon

    I’d like to see a rap video of Jynx and some bouncing’ Igglybuffs, known as the Icicle Princess.

    • why

      • LunaMoon

        It’d be a great Pokemon gift from GameFreak to use. Plus it’d make sense in the already random and weird anime.

        • Can you stop

          • LunaMoon

            Fine I’ll just be Generic Gertrude instead.

          • Natale

            Cause not posting random, flat stuff makes us generic ?

          • LunaMoon

            It’s a personality trait to be random 😛

          • Feliz Navidad

            If you’re a scene kid on MySpace maybe

          • No it’s not

            It’s annoying

          • But posting out of the norm ideas isn’t too bad either

          • That’s not what they’re posting

          • Be yourself, don’t listen to star, if like an idea keep at it.

            People want everyone to be unique and share what their likes and ideas, but then go right back and tell others who have ideas or likes they don’t like to stop posting stuff on them. This seems to just be the Jungle recently though.

  • If you haven’t seen Last Jedi yet don’t read this thing, but if you have

    The Last piece of this article is so true about more than just SW. Its also true about Pokémon and many other games
    https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/tldr/2017/12/19/16796228/star-wars-the-last-jedi-admiral-ackbar-fan-expectations-canon-theories-rian-johnson

    • Sunniera 2.0

      I haven’t watched the movie yet so thank you for the spoiler tags.

      • Your welcome 🙂

        I know people hate forgetting tags so I always make sure it’s a not already spoiled topic before I tag

    • Ariel

      I agree with the article so much especially the last bit of it! Thanks for sharing 🙂

    • Monkeyfuzz

      He was a minor character and the VA died, that’s all the justification it needs. It’s not that big of an issue in comparison to others in this movie.

  • The Butter Grinch

    Why is everyone suddenly posting about The Leauge Justice? That movie is a month old! And also why is Super Woman trending now?

    • The Butter Grinch

      Jk

      • The Butter Grinch

        To those Who didn’t get it
        TLS
        SW

        • The Butter Grinch

          *TLJ

        • Re:Seraph

          That joke’s shitt

          • The Butter Grinch

            I figured

          • Re:Seraph

            No but like it’s actually among the worst I’ve heard

    • I haven’t seen one person post about Justice League yet

      • The Butter Grinch
        • Natale

          I don’t blame the people who didn’t get it, that joke was pretty unfunny without context tbh

          • LunaMoon

            What was the joke?

          • Natale

            No fuucking idea, he replied himself with a JK so it must be a quote on quote “joke”

          • LunaMoon

            Maybe it’s a joke about how it’s such a bad movie nobody likes to remember it?

          • Natale

            Could be actually

          • Monkeyfuzz

            It’s OK, not great by any means. Better than BvS, not that that was hard.

    • LunaMoon

      I never saw any League of Justice posts….is that some sort of new Marvel movie or something?

  • MenacingCascoon

    So what’s everyone favorite Ice area and Pokemon? And what’s your favorite theme dedicated to these snowy areas? Ice type areas have the best themes

    • Area: Idk probably Route 216 and 217
      Pokémon: Glalie
      Theme: The special flakes added on particular days of the year

    • LunaMoon

      That snow mountain from Sinnoh. Only like it because I saw it in the anime and it seemed nice. Otherwise the other ice places are either too repetitive, boring, generic or annoying.

    • The Butter Grinch

      Area: idk
      Pokemon: Aloslash

    • Natale

      So damn right about ice areas having the best themes tho

      Favourite area: Ice path – One of my highlights of Johto really, the music, atmosfere and puzzles gives it a very unique feel compared to the rest of the region making it really stand out :0

      Favourite Pkm: Weavile – Great design, good competitively and awesome type combination ?

    • EarthenWarrior
      • MenacingCascoon

        Mamoswine is a pretty ice type. Too bad its dropping more and more in the ranks. Piloswine is still very good in low tiers. At this rate Mamo+Pilo teams will be a thing

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Hm, I like HGSS Icy Path, though I really like areas where I can leave prints in the snow. My favourite Ice type is probably Swinub. I don’t remember themes much, I often play with the volume off and TV on.

    • Josh Omega

      Probably route 216 in sinnoh. Favorite ice types are easily sneasel and weavile

    • I actually really like Snowpoint and the other snowy city in X and Y. Probably the only memorable towns in that game other than….

      Lumiose..

      • Feliz Navidad

        Laverre and Anistar are shook

        • Monkeyfuzz

          If you remove the Toadstools and Tree Laverre is kinda eh.

          • If you remove paint the Mona Lisa is kinda ehhh

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Point taken.

          • I agree, even having a Pokeball factory in it doesn’t help (And that’s where you get a Masterball which says alot knowing most places you get one are memorable)

          • Monkeyfuzz

            The factory was bland for what I’d want such a place to be.

          • It was way too bland and way too irrelevant to be a place where the most key item in the game is born

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Yeah, even the stuff there feels out of the way and unnecessary, there is no revisit value which there should be imo for such a place. I think back to Kurt and how much I went back to his house because it actually had a use.

        • They’re fine I guess

      • Also Froslass is incredible and Route 216 has the best Route theme probably ever

  • LunaMoon

    If only there could be some exciting news from Pokemon to talk about….as there’s nothing, it’s hard to start up any discussions or find anything interesting to talk about.

    • Feliz Navidad

      Welcome to all Pokémon sites circa 2015

      We’re probably having another drought in 2018, besides a little blip in summer when the movie comes out and a potential teaser shows a Gen 8 Mon or form which most of us won’t see until a few months later. Of course, if PokéSwitch is a larger game and thus has a longer reveal period or if it’s coming out early to mid 2019 we might start getting info in later 2018.

      • LunaMoon

        RIP. Well I can only hope we get some great news about Gen 8 or a new Pokegame or else next year will be slow.

      • Ariel

        As much as the waiting would suck, I really hope it’s pushed to 2019.

  • Feliz Navidad

    Shıtposting is okay. Crap can be useful for fertilising a dry day on disqus.

    What is less okay is diarrheaposting and constipationposting. Either peddling through so much crap with little substance, or forcing crap out and giving dry ass posts.

    Just my two cents but I know others will share this viewpoint.

    • Re:Seraph

      My two cents is that this place needs to have a change

    • Good guide lines for posting

      1. Why do you want to post this?
      2. What kind of response are you looking for?
      3. What is your goal with making a post
      4. Will it contribute to conversation

      • Re:Seraph

        5. If it’s a meme, is it actually amusing or relevant whatsoever?

        • Feliz Navidad

          Most of the time it’s no because most memes don’t even get responses.

          • Re:Seraph

            Unless its stellar

      • What goal?

  • I sincerely hope that Pokémon Switch takes the right lessons from Breath of the Wild.

    I feel like basing your game off of BOTW is sort of risky because it relies on you being able to understand WHY BotW works and being able to execute on it

    It could be amazing though if they pull it off.

    • MenacingCascoon

      I personally dont want that much like botw. as much as I want it to be kinda open world. I dont like Openworld too much. It really depends. Open world games are annoying to me like Zelda games

    • Sunniera 2.0

      Just like the weapons in BOTW, Pokeballs are quite fragile. If thrown the wrong way the way break before hitting the Pokémon spraying Pokeballs shards on them causing them to possibly faint. (Adding difficulty to the game).

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Would ruin False Swipe and capture multipliers maybe.

        • Sunniera 2.0

          That is true. It’s also something that could happen if the rumors about moving the joycons to catch Pokémon are implemented. An unlikely situation but still a possible one.

          • Ariel

            I hope it doesn’t become that gimmicky. :/

      • LunaMoon

        Uhhh, no. I would not play a game where catching a Legendary, shiny or a Pokemon I really want is threatened by this.

      • lol basically

  • EarthenWarrior

    well i’m finally watching the first episode of Trollhunters

    • How far into it are you? I haven’t seen it, but may become interested from reviews

      • EarthenWarrior

        i literally just put it on….like 15 seconds in

  • So, has anyone else seen the preview episodes for Lego Unikitty here?

  • LunaMoon

    I dunno why but it’s kinda satisfying watching someone play a gamey finish before and watch them constantly fail :p. Anyone else get that feeling?

  • Sunniera 2.0

    Aside from two online assignments, I am done with the semester. Just got an interview invite for a medical school in New York, so I am going over there for Spring Break fun. Friends are graduating, I am being dragged along to a bar to celebrate because I have nothing better to do. Thus, I posit this question, what does one do at a bar if they do not drink and don’t like dancing? Also what should I do with my free time in New York after I am done interviewing? (I will probably be with my family). These are my conundrums for the day.

    • TheNintendoChip

      l’m a complete lame-o and if I’m dragged to a party I really don’t want to, I sit down somewhere and read a math textbook (that covers pretty much every subject I’ll encounter) I found online.

      • Sunniera 2.0

        I’m not sure I can be a complete lame-o in this scenario. I’m in a smallish party of 8 so I think that it would become immediately apparent if I were to do something similar to that and would translate to being rude.

    • Feliz Navidad

      If you don’t drink for religious/personal moral/health reasons, I’d just recommend trying new things like dancing, finding sober(ish) people to speak to, and just generally having a good time. Hell, even conversations with drunk people can be fun.

      FYI: if you’re being peer pressured to drink, try to go for weaker alcohols or mix your stronger alcohols with mixers and pace yourself rather than shots and stuff. Also, make sure you eat plenty before you go. If you can drink but just don’t want to get drunk, you can keep this up so your friends won’t pressure you as much to drink because they see you drinking. Of course your friends may not be the type to pressure, so you might not even have to worry about it.

      • Sunniera 2.0

        Thanks for the advice and warnings. Don’t worry about me getting peer-pressured to drink, I have known everyone in my group of friends (or the party that I am going with) for 2-3 years so I am not concerned about that.

        • Feliz Navidad

          That’s good to hear, and I’m happy if I helped in any way dude

  • Shady

    Being a man id freaking agony. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZHtXy7kIfQ

  • Be back later, I get to perform in my Winter Chorus Concert with an hour rehersal before, Yay…
    *Cries silently at the agony of the songs

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I hated forced singing at school, was so glad it stopped before secondary school.

  • Feliz Navidad

    I don’t want to sound like I’m bragging about being a ‘cool kid’ or anything but can I just say how weird it is kinda flipping from jungle to irl? Like, all my friends irl are extroverted asf and we have really off kilter humour whilst here everyone tends to be a bit more introverted and more careful about how they speak. Anyone else kinda feel a large rift between their online and irl communities?

    • Monkeyfuzz

      In fairness you can’t get banned from real life in the same way you can here.

      • Sunniera 2.0

        Yea you can get banned, but really the only one that I have seen use the ban hammer is Dae-that is why it is called Dae’s Ban Hammer-and he doesn’t go crazy with it. If memory serves me correctly, every time he has banned someone is after it became apparent that this individual were trying to lead the comment section to a destructive path.

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Still, that may be why some are a little more reserved. There’s also the fact that most of us don’t really know each other that well, at least not enough to joke around in the same way we might with irl friends without fear of offending them. Idk just some thoughts as to maybe why. I also am a very introverted person anyway tbh.

    • Sunniera 2.0

      Yea. I am in a similar scenario as you are. I can also add that I can’t really talk about Pokémon as an extended conversation topic as most of them are not into it.

    • Sunniera 2.0

      Although, a good portion of my friends and I usually try to be ‘PC’ irl because we are pre-meds and a good doctor isn’t usually one who offends or is not understanding of their patients and coworkers.

      • Feliz Navidad

        Me and my friends don’t try to be offensive but it’s more of a ‘nobody is safe’ kinda humour and we have very clear set boundaries (like, the slightest hint of you being serious about it and you’re probably going to be on your ass)

        But I do have to kinda shift my personality because I want to go into health and because I’ll be working extremely closely with a variety patients/client I don’t want to offend anyone

    • Shady

      Wat happened to gym leaders list?

      • Feliz Navidad

        It got finished dude

        • Shady

          I know but wat was that for?

    • TheNintendoChip

      We’re all fairly introverted, but I definitely hold back more here.
      E.g., I roast more of my friends irl than on here. I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings, but I know my friends won’t feel (that) bad.

      • Feliz Navidad

        Kinda same but I do feel I come across as extroverted irl and here, it feels more arrogant on here tho and sometimes I look at something I typed a while before and just think ‘yikes’

    • MenacingCascoon

      Nope. I am very extroerted in real life. I do hold back on my rude jokes here, but I love talking to people giving speeches and such. I just love speaking.

      • MenacingCascoon

        In a house of 9 other people, I love sound and things going on. I hate silence. Silence is rarely tolerated in the hous.

    • Re:Seraph

      ^^ without extroversion

    • Nah, not really. I treat my irl friends and my online friends the same

  • Btw, trying to keep up with the articles, hats off to you, Earthen. I found something new to binge watch (I HATE Fairyland).

    *clap clap*

    • EarthenWarrior

      Such a delightful display of whimsical fantasy and gut wrenching violence

  • EarthenWarrior

    Well i started Trollhunters and Ruby and already up to episode 3 and Ruby

    Badges 3
    Marshtomp 31
    Hariyama 25
    Aron 24

    • Feliz Navidad

      I don’t get how people can replay so much, I’m powering through a Moon Nuzlocke I started a few months ago and I find it a slog :0

      • EarthenWarrior

        shrugs
        besides it’s just harmless time wasting

        binge watching a series after a long ass day of work, and i just feel like it

      • MenacingCascoon

        Replaying. meh it’s understandable. but an update everdayy so often can be very annoying no offense.especially since heuses the same pokemon every game

        • I try new combo’s. Sadly most of them fail me

          I soon though am starting a Nuzlocke with my friend, of Platinum

    • Ultron

      Finally you started Trollhunters after I told you like 20 times to watch it?

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Finally gonna see Star Wars tomorrow, im so excited 😀

  • LunaMoon

    In relation to the ice locations, I’ve some cool ideas on other places that should be in Gen 8’s region;

    – A volcanic plateau, where you need to carefully cross from stoney piece to piece either via a new HM called Magma Shield or by riding on it with a Fire-type Pokemon, and each area collect a key to unlock a higher platform until you get to the volcano and swim through to find the legendary Pokemon.

    – A cloud-based valley where you need to fly from cloud to cloud and get to the end to the mystical cloud city.

    – A mysterious and foggy Fairy forest where you need to follow the silhouette of a certain Pokemon and if you follow the wrong one you’ll get lost and must recommence.

    So…..what do y’all think?

    • Ariel

      Love everything but the HM

      • LunaMoon

        Meh just think that Rider Pokemon should be left to Alola.

        • Ariel

          HM’s are just so outdated, especially when it basically forces you to use an HM slave. It would be an awful regression.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            That and ride Pokemon don’t feel as uniquely ingrained in Alola culture as say, trials.

          • LunaMoon

            Yeah I guess so, but I think they should make the choices for Rides much more diverse; say be able to choose between different Pokemon who are able to for a certain ability, like fly, you should be able to choose from Altaria, Charizard, Croat, Talonflame, so on.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I guess you could choose between 3 for each one and swap them later. There would need to be a special ride Pokemon ranch or something to accommodate this though.

          • Ariel

            Considering the fact that we had all those running animations, I can see them adding something like that to the Switch game.

        • UnburdenedLegume

          Literally everyone hated HMs lol and GF knows that

    • Monkeyfuzz

      HMs should stay dead. Magcargo ride please.

      • LunaMoon

        Eh, I guess so. I also mean other Pokemon you can ride if you choose (they’d replace Magcargo but this would be a post-game feature):
        Groudon
        Heatran

        • Monkeyfuzz

          I think Grooudon is too big to be worthwhile, the area itself would need to be ridiculously huge.

          • LunaMoon

            They should downsize him ridiculously.

          • Ariel

            Like in Omega Ruby lmao

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Why? It’s a ledengerry, it has never been properly represented as the size it’s meant to be.

          • LunaMoon

            It could be a baby Legendary like baby Lugia! Or baby Manaphy. “But it’s a different Pokemon called Phi-ITS A BABY MANAPHY!

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I guess, baby Lugia is anime only though.

          • LunaMoon

            Nah, of course not! Clearly everyone knows about the famous PIkachu-Swellow Thundershield fusion! /s

    • LunaMoon

      O ya, here are a few more ideas:

      A ginormous fruit and veggie garden, which is actually a regular sized garden but you are shrunk by the chief Grass Type and explore. You’d discover different factions of Grass-type, like Tsareenas nursing baby Steenees and the pre-eves, Litigants dancing and teaching Petilil their dancings, Roserades teaching Rosellas and Budews the art of disguising, and then Xerneas sitting at the front, with it being partially connected to the ground as its part-tree.

    • UnburdenedLegume

      HMs are finito

      • LunaMoon

        OK, well then switch HMs with a new Mega transformation which allows for lava movability.

        • UnburdenedLegume

          Or just make Magcargo or Camerupt a ride for “Lava paddle” or whatever idk

  • EarthenWarrior

    Well my Ruby crashed this is why i don’t mess with gameshark stuff
    Always save often

    • LunaMoon

      It was probably a sign that Omega Ruby is much more preferred by GameFreak.

      • EarthenWarrior

        dis is a emulator

        • LunaMoon

          Well, as they always say back in ye olde Nintendia: “Emulators of Nintendo games mean elimination of Nintendo access.”

  • Shady

    Y she loos more cute in the game? http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1513728677704.jpg

    • LunaMoon

      Ultra Space radiation can something like that, which is why Pheramosa is so beautiful, and Lunala exists.

    • I really love looking at the concept art for Pokémon games. The artists at game freak are so good

    • Sunniera 2.0

      I think that I am voicing an unpopular opinion when I say that I prefer her old design in Emerald more.

      • Shady

        I don’t like her at all in emerald

      • I’ll give you this, her Emerald outfit is nice

  • I’m finally watching Episode 1 of Kamen Rider Build, been looking forward to this

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    WTF……So I’m doing the Zelda dlc and riding one of those sand walruses…….I get hit by an electric bat and some how I lost my Master Shield…….I LOST MY MASTER SHIELD……..How does this even happen……..I just spent 5 minutes walking around trying to find it and I can’t even…….What the hell……..

    • Ariel

      I’d reload the last save if you can.

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        It’s been to long……..I think you can get a new one, but this is just so annoying and sad……

        • Ariel

          Damn that’s rough. Sorry :/ hope it’s not too much of a pain to get back.

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            Yeah me too……..I just don’t know how this kind of thing would happen…..I guess it would happen in the desert…..you know….the sand and all…

          • Ariel

            Yeah that’s literally the worst luck, and you’re right of all places.

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            On top of all that it was at night so by the time I realized it was gone I had no idea where to even look for it lol

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    Ok so I was in fact actually able to go back to an auto save to get my Master Shield back!!! I didn’t think there would be any since the last important thing I did was a bit earlier. I’m not even too far off from where I was either so that’s pretty great too!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/51ff4dc9efdca99991e7693183c15d7e5ad96385bfa21b790cc6e3eb4f319f97.gif

    • LunaMoon

      You could have just bought a new Shield from Tarry Town.

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Omg Boogie and his wife are getting a divorce. Im genuinely shocked, they looked such a good couple despite Boogie’s many issues both physically and mentally.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Who?

      • Josh Omega

        He’s a pretty big youtuber. boogie2988

        • I want to laugh, but I’m not sure if I should

          • Josh Omega

            I just noticed what I said…….that is completely my bad lol he’s a famous youtuber that’s a better way of putting it. Probably most famous fro his francos rage videos

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Oh that explains it, I don’t use youtube that much.

          • Josh Omega

            He’s one of the few youtubers I would recommend. Seems like a really laid back guy

    • EarthenWarrior

      OH NO REALLY
      …..who or what is Boogie

      • Josh Omega

        Boogie2988. He’s a pretty good youtuvefmost famous probzbly for his Francis rage videos

        • Honestly at this point people know him more for his life story

          • Josh Omega

            You may be right actually. His Francis videos are what helped him get famous though. It’s actually how I found him and eventually I saw his videos about his life. Guy has been through a lot and has made so much progress this past year

    • LunaMoon

      Wait who’s Boogie?

      • Josh Omega

        Look up boogie2988 on YouTube

        • LunaMoon

          OHHH him. I think I’ve seen a few of his videos, I never actually read his YT account name,

  • Govnah

    All you that grew up with Total drama and or still watched it up to the its recent season. its new season got annouced and its….its….total drama daycare….
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b6649ef33483adedfd6b4796cc6c5c2f70ba013d9713f761f03e13f38081a8df.png

    • Ariel

      but why?

      • Govnah

        honestly why not anymore

    • I heard. Idk what to think about it, I’ll have to wait until we get more info

    • MenacingCascoon

      Are you serious? I had such high hopes for this. I have to say I am VERY disappointed. Yes I know I havent seen it yet, but seriously? I loved the development of the grown kids. If they do all the romance it would be weird because their babies. If they are tortured like Chris normally does it would be VERY bad because theyre babies!! I’ll still watch but I wont be happy.

    • LunaMoon

      So this is literally a Muppets Babies/Loony Toons Babies-esque lazy spinoff.

    • Josh Omega

      Wait what? XD uh okay then lol

    • DucoLamia

      WTF? I remember when I was young I saw the original series and for a TV reality fiction it was great. Sucks they’re giving it the muppet treatment.

    • Adorable designs, odd idea…

      Baby Owen tho… Awesome

      • What do you mean adorable designs? They just changed the proportions

    • EarthenWarrior

      …I’m out

    • I’m going to be very uncomfortable watching this knowing I’ve seen Heather’s tits

    • Seems like some people (no one specific) are quick to judge this. It’s a weird idea, yes, and I definitely did not expect this to be Season 8, but I think we should just wait until we get more info on this before we judge. That’s just me

    • The Butter Grinch

      That makes no sense cannonically

  • Monkeyfuzz

    What are the best egg moves for Scraggy? I want to avoid tutor-able ones.

    I’m thinking:

    Dragon Dance
    Fake Out
    Quick Guard
    Power-Up Punch

    Should I swap either of the last 2 for Detect?

    • Carrrot

      Why no tutor-able ones?

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Because they can be tutored so are a waste of an egg move slot.

    • LunaMoon

      I think you should give him Darkest Lariat or Shadow Ball.

    • Re:Seraph

      I mean Ice Punch is a fairly good one to have

      • Monkeyfuzz

        But that’s a tutor move so I can get it later.

        • Re:Seraph

          Oh yeah

  • Josh Omega

    Watching digimon tri confession right now and just saw where patamon realizes he’s infected……right in the feels

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Does he have Digi-AIDS?

      • Josh Omega

        I guess you can call it that ?

  • Josh Omega

    Just finished part 3…….I need part four like right now but have to wait until February 1. Part three was easily the best one so far I must say though

    • Josh Omega

      So apparently they are releasing the final three parts in theaters here for one day each. Part 4 loss February 1
      Part 5 coexistence May 10
      Part 6 future September 20
      I am going to try and to see all of them but I wish they would have them in theaters for a week at least :/ that said I will definitely buy them once they come to blu Ray/dvd

  • https://media.giphy.com/media/cBnn5pIrqD41G/giphy.gif

    Sylveon thinks you’re cool probably

    • Feliz Navidad

      Sylveon thinks you should be asleep probably ?

  • Josh Omega

    Well what an eventful morning. Woke up with a really bad coughing spell(I do this sometimes most likely have asmha) was planning to go to work today but apparently my body had other plans and I haven’t really slept at all yet. Went ahead and took my dose of prednisone for the day because as usual when I take it I was starving so thought why not go ahead and just get it out of the way. Finally I just took some cough medicine to calm my coughing so hopefully it helps me get some freaking sleep.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Bah I’ve been having that for nearly a solid week

      At least you’re not fasting for bloodwork

      • Josh Omega

        Guess I am lucky there. Good luck with your bloodwork though!