As promised, a brand new trailer showing off new features and story elements of Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon has been released!

New Information:

  • Team Rainbow Rocket has assembled under Giovanni to bring together the biggest baddies of the last 20 years.

In Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon, the greatest villainous organization in history appears! It’s Team Rainbow Rocket—made up of the bosses from past titles in the Pokémon series!

The boss of Team Rainbow Rocket is none other than Giovanni, who was also the boss of the villainous organization known as Team Rocket in Pokémon Red and Pokémon Blue, the first games in the Pokémon series.

But that’s not the worst of it—Giovanni has gathered into one group the bosses from the various past games in the Pokémon series! You and your allies will have to square off against what might be your greatest challenge yet!

What in the world could Giovanni and his allies be after, appearing in the Alola region so suddenly…?

  • New Battle Agency feature allows you to battle using rental teams!

When you don your sunglasses and become an “agent” at this facility, you can take part in Single Battles using rental Pokémon. You’ll have three such Pokémon to command as you try to defeat the three Pokémon in your opponent’s team. Try to win your way to being the best of all the agents! 

  • Totem Stickers seem to take the place of Zygarde Cells and can be found throughout Alola and ultimately redeemed for totem-like Pokémon!

With Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon,you’ll be able to collect stickers called Totem Stickers all around Alola. Totem Stickers glitter and shine in the field.

If you collect these Totem Stickers, you’ll be able to get a huge totem-like Pokémon for your team, based on how many stickers you’ve collected. It’ll surely shock your opponents to see you using these oversized totem-like Pokémon in battle!

The totem-like Pokémon that you can get as allies can differ based on whether you’re playing Pokémon Ultra Sun or Pokémon Ultra Moon. For example, you can get Lurantis as an ally in Pokémon Ultra Sun or Salazzle in Pokémon Ultra Moon. Search every corner of the Alola region and collect masses of Totem Stickers!

  • Catch lots of Legendary Pokémon depending on your game!
    • Pokémon Ultra Sun only: Ho-Oh, Raikou, Groudon, Latios, Dialga, Heatran, Reshiram, Tornadus, Xerneas.
    • Pokémon Ultra Moon only: Lugia, Entei, Kyogre, Latias, Palkia, Regigigas, Zekrom, Thundurus, Yveltal.
  • Island Scan feature returns with new Pokémon, including Charmander, Grovyle and Greninja!
  • Next batch of new Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon information will drop November 9th, 10pm PST (November 10th JST/5am UTC)

What do you think?!

  • Browserboom

    Nobody likes school, this helps

  • EarthenWarrior
  • MK126

    This info better be worth watching at work!

  • ShinyXatu

    Nothing beats waking up at 5:30 in the morning…

  • Fedex

    Not long to go now.
    I’ll be having my breakfast warm tea, here in the cold Autumn UK
    I’m super excited!

  • EarthenWarrior

    So to pass the time I wanna talk about today’s episode
    At first I thought it was gonna be a boring episode but they’re really trying to push Lillie as the center of conflict as she’s struggling with her Mother’s business and unique brand of trying to connect but being distant, then some boring sleepover crap, but what really made this episode so much more significant is at the very last scene.

    As everyone was walking to school Nebby playfully teleports Lillie, and where she’s teleported to is the cave on Wela where Gladion hides in. After a brief confrontation Type: Null immediately leaps right in front of her and glares at her, as she stares at the synthetic Pokemon it triggers a PTSD styled flashback the night she was attack unlocking a greater dormant fear causing her to collapse as she was teleported back to the group, this traumatic experience caused her to flinch away from Snowie in fear

  • Butter Geek

    I hope it’s over 5 minutes

    • EarthenWarrior

      It’s not going to that long, maybe 3 minutes at best

      • MK126

        Have some faith Earthen

  • Fedex

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9c1202ea349658f038608ee7c2f1f8207b92aa73ffc748726a692f26b3bea4be.jpg

    Warm tea and scrambled chilli eggs on cold autumns day whilst waiting for the big reveal!
    Ahhhh could get used to this Gamefreak 🙂

    • ShinyXatu

      I wish I could stomach a full breakfast every morning, that would be nice…maybe if I woke up at 5:30 every morning that would be possible!

      • Fedex

        oh dw im the same I always wake up late but lucky for me I have a break at this time!

    • The Spooky Scurry Golurk

      I would love those scrambled chili eggs right now

      • Fedex

        🎫 here’s a ticket, business class.
        You will arrive in Hoenn tommorow morning. Possible wind turbulence due to unexplained legendary Pokemon trying to make more land,water.
        Any problems please consult head pilot Steven 😛

    • EarthenWarrior

      Where da meat at!

      • Fedex

        Good question!

  • MenacingCascoon

    In a REALLY surprising turn of events Lana has been eliminated! She had no signs of being next eliminated but now she is gone. I thought she was the best of the Akala totems too. I loved her little Lie thing she does. It’s pretty funny. Why did you guys vote her off?? Man seeing these make me realize the interesting opinions here.
    You know the drill vote least favorite 3.
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1V-V_edp-qpKl7CAwSPZHXx31PPqkIRMruql1Vvn-9bg/edit

    Havent quite decided if I want to see this trailer… Sure it’s cool but I don’t know if I just want to see what happens or the music… decisions…

    • Butter Geek

      This is terrible

      • MenacingCascoon

        Yea, I know all my favorites getting eliminated

    • Sunny

      This is the saddest I have been of someone getting voted off. Today is a bit cloudy…

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      LANA NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • EarthenWarrior

    My right leg won’t stop bouncing in excitement

  • MenacingCascoon

    Here’s to them revealing more than just Rainbow rocket! Pleeeease new feature

    • Fedex

      YESSSS! PLZZZ

    • EarthenWarrior

      New ultra beast with ground typing

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Ground types are finito, time to accept it.

  • UnburdenedLegume

    People actually set their alarms for this? Could never be me

    • MenacingCascoon

      I woke up and had to pee and here I am

    • EarthenWarrior

      I woke up a 3 then fell asleep for 3 more hours and been up eversince

  • This is their last real chance to really wow us with these games. I just hope this is like that trailer for sun and moon that revealed trials, Alolan forms and pokeride all in the same day

  • Celestial Decidueye

    Mm the hype

  • ShinyXatu

    So will this just be on the Japanese account or will there be a worldwide equivalent? I can’t remember what they used to do.

  • EarthenWarrior

    30 seconds

    • MenacingCascoon

      We can see the time

  • Juan Pablo Fernandez

    IT’S TIME

  • UnburdenedLegume

    • ShinyXatu

      Holy CRAP it is 5 minutes!

  • UnburdenedLegume

    LYSANDRE OMG

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    GUZMA HOLDIN EM BACK XD

  • ShinyXatu

    It’s basically just an overview trailer…WTF?

  • ShinyXatu

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    WHAT THE HELL THEY SHOWED THE CHAMPION ARE YOU SHITTIN ME

    • Butter Geek

      Did they tho?

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        THEY SHOW KUKUI IN THE CHAMP ROOM

        • Butter Geek

          May be just there to congratulate you

  • EarthenWarrior

    ALL THE LEADERS JOINED FORCES

  • UnburdenedLegume

    OMG ALL THE EVIL TEAM LEADERS IM GASSEDD

  • MK126

    So Giovanni isnt dead after he jumped off that cliff in HGSS after you beat him in that event battle?

  • EarthenWarrior

    And nothing new…

  • EarthenWarrior

    In Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon, the greatest villainous organization in history appears! It’s Team Rainbow Rocket—made up of the bosses from past titles in the Pokémon series!

    The boss of Team Rainbow Rocket is none other than Giovanni, who was also the boss of the villainous organization known as Team Rocket in Pokémon Red and Pokémon Blue, the first games in the Pokémon series.

    But that’s not the worst of it—Giovanni has gathered into one group the bosses from the various past games in the Pokémon series! You and your allies will have to square off against what might be your greatest challenge yet!

    What in the world could Giovanni and his allies be after, appearing in the Alola region so suddenly…?

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    LEGENDS ARE IN SPECIFIC AREAS CONFIRMED THEY SHOW IT THEY SHOW SUICUNE BEHIND A WATERFALL HOLY F**K

  • ShinyXatu

    That was certainly disappointing but DAMN, I didn’t believe the idea that all leaders would have a role! Also, they basically included every legendary ever, which I’m happy about.

  • UnburdenedLegume

    OMG YOU CAN CATCH TOTEM POKEMON I AM OUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

  • ShinyXatu
  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    CONFIRMED POST GAME
    ALSO MEGA MEWTWO

  • Caleb

    The leaks were true oh my god

  • UnburdenedLegume

    BATTLE AGENCY
    TOTEM STICKERS
    EVIL TEAMS ARE BACK

    BUT USUM WERE GOING TO ADD NOTHING I HEARD

    • Fedex

      👍👍👍

  • MK126

    WAIT! GIOVANNI HAS A MEWTWO?! ITS OVER NOW IM MAD HYPED 😂😂😂

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    Ok I love this, but……where are my Alolan forms?!?!?!? If the leaks are real I wish they would just show us already!!

  • ShinyXatu

    WAIT I JUST REALIZED, I CAN CATCH REGIGIGAS, MY LIFE IS COMPLETE

  • That was… disappointing. Why was it an overview trailer over stuff that was already in Sun and Moon anyways.

    But I can’t act like I wasn’t giggling in joy when Giovanni had a Mewtwo

    Archie and Maxie are from the non mega evolution time line when their designs weren’t nearly as cool.

    If Ghetsis was there, can we please get our boy N?

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    BATTLE FACILITY IN ENGLISH TRAILER I REPEAT BATTLE FACILITY

    • TheUltraMonster6893

      What kind? Can’t watch yet.

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Battle Agency, you can rent high leveled Mons for 1v1 battles and get special rewards

      • ShinyXatu

        It’s like the Battle Factory where you can borrow Pokemon. Apparently rare items can be earned. It’s called the Battle Agency.

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    THE FINGER GUN ART IS HERE

  • LordofSnails

    The trailer was the most lackluster Pokemon trailer I have ever seen. I wasn’t excepting much at all. The only things I liked was the new battle place and the island scan.

    • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

      look at the japanese website, there’s like 5 trailers

  • EarthenWarrior

    A New Battle Facility: The Battle Agency!

    The Battle Agency is a new facility where you can enjoy battling by easily renting powerful Pokémon.
    When you don your sunglasses and become an “agent” at this facility, you can take part in Single Battles using rental Pokémon. You’ll have three such Pokémon to command as you try to defeat the three Pokémon in your opponent’s team. Try to win your way to being the best of all the agents!
    The Pokémon you can rent for these battles will increase as you mingle with other players around you or over the internet. Connect with formidable players, and you’ll be able to rent powerful Pokémon. So communicate with lots of other players, choose the Pokémon you like best from those available to rent, and aim to become the top agent!

    • Butter Geek

      Scroll up Ya dummy, they already posted this in the article

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      OH MY GOD IM FUCKIN DYING XD

  • Vlad

    No alonan forms, ok bye.

  • MenacingCascoon

    So they keep their old designs… I wonder why…
    BAttle Agency seems like a lamer factory.
    Totem Stickers are nice! I can have my large Lurantis
    but the real question is… are the legends shiny locked….

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      Battle Agency is legitimately the funniest shitt I’ve ever seen

      • MenacingCascoon

        Really? I wish they did more, than just rentals though : Feels kinda incomplete

        • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

          The finger guns dude

    • It’s basically 1/5th of the Sinnoh Battle Frontier but it’s better than the tree

  • EarthenWarrior

    Collect Totem Stickers!
    With Pokémon Ultra Sun and Pokémon Ultra Moon,you’ll be able to collect stickers called Totem Stickers all around Alola. Totem Stickers glitter and shine in the field.

    If you collect these Totem Stickers, you’ll be able to get a huge totem-like Pokémon for your team, based on how many stickers you’ve collected. It’ll surely shock your opponents to see you using these oversized totem-like Pokémon in battle!

    The totem-like Pokémon that you can get as allies can differ based on whether you’re playing Pokémon Ultra Sun or Pokémon Ultra Moon.For example, you can get Lurantis as an ally in Pokémon Ultra Sun or Salazzle in Pokémon Ultra Moon.Search every corner of the Alola region and collect masses of Totem Stickers!

    • EarthenWarrior

      .M MMMMY MYYYY………MY JAMGMO-O CAN BE A TOTEM KOMMO-O NOW

      • Butter Geek

        Or Maybe you can just catch the totem

        • EarthenWarrior

          Maybe but Jangmo-o is already the hero of this story

    • Guess I’m getting ultra moon

      • EarthenWarrior

        I thought you were getting that regardless

  • ShinyXatu

    This trailer further convinces me that Pokemon on Switch will basically be a complete reboot like Black and White. They’re getting all of their past references and legendaries tied together into one complete package and then, I’m guessing, moving on to something new. I think this is AWESOME!!!

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Lockstin claims this W

    • Gruff Stuff

      ORAS had every legendary. This is just part 2 of gen 7 celebrating the 20th anniversary.

    • Fedex

      Exactly what I was thinking!

  • HANG ON BACK THE F*CK UP

    THEY FINALLY BOTHERED TO REMIX THE BATTLE THEMES?

    YOU CAN GET THE TOTEMS?

    SOMETHING BETTER THAN THE BATTLE TREE

    GOD DAMN FINALLY A REASON TO WANT THESE GAMES.

    I’m just salty the Lurantis is Sun exclusive

    • Butter Geek

      Salazzle’s in Moon tho

      • …. yes

        Which is why I’m getting Moon

        But I want Lurantis too

        See my issue?

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    THIS GAME IS NUTS
    RAINBOW ROCKET WITH LEGENDS
    LEGENDS FOUND IN PRESUMABLY ULTRA SPACE LIKE AREAS
    SUNGLASSES THE FACILITY

  • UnburdenedLegume

    My boy Cyrus IS WELL AND TRULY BACK AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I CANT WAIT

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    IM SCREAMING DUDE
    Can we please have finger guns as a style!? PLEASE

  • TOTEM STICKERS AND OWNING A TOTEM POKEMON? YES PLEASE!

  • Butter Geek

    So no new Alolans basically confirmed

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    WAIT MOST OF THE LEGENDS ARE EXCLUSIVE F**K!

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    Finally it confirms that all Legendary Pokémon of past games. Some require special things such as Giratina needing both Dialga and Palkia to appear. Suicune (with Raikou and Entei present) , Rayquaza (with Groudon and Kyogre present), Kyurem (with Reshiram and Zekrom present), Landorus (with Tornadus and Thundurus present). Some Legendary are exclusive: Ultra Sun – Ho-Oh, Raikou, Groudon, Latios, Dialga, Heatran, Reshiram, Tornadus, Xerneas. | Ultra Moon – Lugia, Entei, Kyogre, Latias, Palkia, Regigigas, Zekrom, Thundurus, Yveltal.

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      WHY ARE REGIGIGAS AND HEATRAN EXCLUSIVE

    • ShinyXatu

      YES IM PLAYING MOON FIRST AND IT HAS REGIGIGAS, ZEKROM AND ENTEI!

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        SAME THO THE EXCLUSIVES IN MOON ARE GREAT

    • WHY DOES ULTRA SUN GET ALL THE GOOD ONES?

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        DO THEY REALLY? NOT FROM WHAT I SEE!

        • Reshiram, Yvleltal, Dialga for example

          • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

            ….Yveltal,is Moons, and we get zekrom and Kyogre

          • Oh wtf I meant Xerneas

          • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

            Kyogre makes it worth it

      • EarthenWarrior

        They get it first because it’s the dominant game

  • ShinyXatu

    I don’t care what was in this trailer, I still think we’re going to get more new UBs that go unannounced (but will probably be revealed in the upcoming data dump). The idea of this has me EXTREMELY EXCITED because all of this stuff in the trailer looks incredible and adding more new Pokemon with crazy cool designs will push me over the edge!

  • Butter Geek

    THIS IS MY NEW PHONE BACKGROUND OMG SO AWESOME
    https://twitter.com/pokeshopper/status/926072794798022657

    • UnburdenedLegume

      AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • EarthenWarrior

      I’m disappointed that they didn’t have a Rhydon by Giovanni’s side

      • Butter Geek

        Persian/Mewtwo is his signature

        • EarthenWarrior

          Not really they were anime influenced

          • Butter Geek

            Who cares? Lol

    • MenacingCascoon

      How come the female protags never get any spotlight that isnt super ‘cute’

      • The patriarchy

        • Awesome Waffles

          More like Japanese way of thinking.

          Japan is more conservative compared to many western countries. Their progress is slow but still there.

          • I was kinda joking but thanks for providing an actual answer when I was too lazy to

    • MK126

      Why does Maxie look like he hasnt aged well

    • Dazzling Fireworks

      Interesting that Faba is grouped with leaders, but Guzma and Wicke are on your side

    • Ultron

      2/10 for the art using incineroar over decidueye

  • Still sad that they continue to not include the mythicals especially when they aren’t going to distribute them and we all know they won’t

  • EarthenWarrior

    Alright I need to go eat foods and get ready for work

    15 days boys (and girl)

  • UnburdenedLegume
    • MenacingCascoon

      PRAY for no shiny lock

      • Ultron

        There’s no way they would lock them. Hopefully.

      • zeldaoreonerd

        Especially pray that gen 6 legends aren’t locked anymore. I didn’t want the event ones in hopes they would undo the lock on them in an upcoming game

    • ShinyXatu

      Oh my god, that’s actually insane. This makes me VERY happy, personally. I won’t have to move these legendaries up from past games anymore!

    • UnburdenedLegume

      This is basically all of them except for Darkrai, Cresselia, Shaymin and Meloetta?

      • The Spooky Scurry Golurk

        Well, with the exception of mythicals, that’s all of them

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Oh nvm Cresselia is on there but no Darkrai strangely

        • Ultron

          I think the strangest thing is that they didn’t include Deoxys. Is it back to being an event legend?

          • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

            Apparently

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    Someone hold me im joy spazzing

  • EarthenWarrior

    Ok I really need to get dressed and moving, peace out bitches

  • UnburdenedLegume

    They wrapping up 20 years. We about to witness a massive reboot i feel ahhhyessirrrrrr

    • Fedex

      Yup. It’s gonna be exciting to see another reboot. I expect bigger changes than BW and it’s gonna be on the switch. Even better!

    • Gruff Stuff

      I’ve lost track of how many times people have said Pokemon will reboot. It wont, it’s never needed to before it never will. Celebrating the anniversary and a goodbye tribute to handheld consoles isn’t really wrapping things up.

      • Fedex

        You don’t understand. It won’t be a complete reboot but many changes will take place where it feels as good as a reboot. BW perfect examples.
        Tho I feel the switch game will be even more of a reboot

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Gen 5 was a reboot fella

        • Gruff Stuff

          No it wasn’t.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Yes it was

          • Fedex

            It was to some extent

      • God it needs a reboot so bad. 21 years of the same formula with little real changes.

        Let’s try something new for once

  • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

    I love the idea of team rainbow rocket, even if some of those prevous team leaders really shouldn’t be alive/evil/still in this dimension somehow. lol.

    really excited for these games now. these are the last big hurrah for the 3ds and what a way to go!

    • Fedex

      Hey welcome back!!!

      • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

        thanks for remembering me! 😀 haha

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    So,,,, why are Heatran and Regigigas exclusive?

    • The Spooky Scurry Golurk

      No clue, but I’ll roll with it

  • The idea that these guys would team up makes no sense and is kind of fan fiction-y but I love them so I’ll roll with it (except Lysander he still sucks)

  • joker901

    33 legends + UBs in a single game? Soooo boring! Really GF? I just spent a month with oras to catch all of them…now they are even more…

    • Fedex

      Think of it as a culmination of the series plus catching them all in USUM makes perfect sense with the alternate dimensions.
      PLUS the areas the legendaries are waiting in are actual proper designed areas!

    • I agree that legends are hardly able to be considered content but at least they are something to shiny hunt that has some sort of value

  • Fedex

    Ok so I’m glad the all evil teams is true and they have legendary pokemon in their teams or at least Giovanni does!
    The game looks great. Like the coming together of the series it almost looks like the final pokemon game!
    Switch reboot will be amazing and fresh.
    But for now USUM looking fineeeee

  • zeldaoreonerd

    This is a fantastic batch of news in my opinion. While not getting a full on reboot of the battle frontier, the Battle Agency is a small step in the direction I like, so that’s a plus. Also, so many legends like in ORAS!! The hunts will never stop in these games, especially those coveted generation 6 ones (some like myself didn’t get the event ones because it wasn’t earned just given). And the ability to face all of the past Team Leaders?? And being able to have totem pokemon? I can’t wait for these games! I just hope there’s plenty more to discover upon their release

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    THIS IS THE HAPPIEST I’VE BEEN IN FUCKKIN WEEKS Y’ALL

  • The Spooky Scurry Golurk

    YEEEAAAAAAHHHHHH BOOOOOOOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

    BATTLE FACTORY IS TECHNICALLY BACK

  • Gruff Stuff

    It’s a shame Ghetsis has to return too but hopefully there’ll be no N (the worst character in the franchise)

  • Ultron

    I think you all are missing the most surprising thing. Team Rocket now officially has a canon connection to Mewtwo. Before it was just in the movies and books that they did, but now Giovanni is full on using one.

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    I wonder why they choose BW1 Ghetsis

    • They know he’s the better Ghetsis

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        True but I wonder if there is a reason

        • InfinityD4

          Maybe he Gathered them FROM THROUGHOUT TIME AND SPACE using ultra wormholes

    • Pokemon maniac

      They choose RSE Maxie and Archie instead of ORAS

  • Butter Geek

    Kinda weird that they didn’t show the Mimikyu Z-move, but i guess it wouldn’t fit there

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      They did somewhat, start of the 5 min japanese one

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Yo im gonna lose it if RR appear in the anime too

  • Shady
    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      Wow… the Recon bois look really out of place

    • Butter Geek

      So
      Their skin is blue
      Huh

      • Butter Geek

        #UltraReconSmurphs

      • Shady

        The r lack of O2

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    So… if everything I’m understanding here is true..

  • UnburdenedLegume
    • Butter Geek

      Not exactly

      • UnburdenedLegume

        You probably dont know what canon means then

        • Butter Geek

          Well aren’t you just so nice
          I know What the word canon means
          You can’t say the anime is canon
          You can say the fact that Team Rainbow Rocket has a connection to Mewtwo is canon
          Anime isn’t canon
          Neither is the manga (where TR also created Mewtwo)

    • TheUltraMonster6893

      I mean….. Team Rocket has always been the creator of Mewtwo so it’s not crazy that he’d have one lol

      • Ultron

        Not in the games they weren’t.

    • It’s not canon though, it just means that it’s canon that he has a link to Mewtwo in the game’s universe

    • DucoLamia

      Just because Mewtwo appears doesn’t mean the anime is necessarily Canon. This is more a fanservice thing Imo, considering it’s the 20th anniversary

      • UnburdenedLegume

        There has never been a connection between Mewtwo and TR in the games before?

        • Ultron

          I wouldn’t say it’s full on canon, but at least there seems to be something there. It’s interesting to speculate about.

        • DucoLamia

          True, but I feel they did this because they wanted to get older players hooked into it because of what was seen in the movies and anime. It’s like the same thing they did with Greninja to try to capitalize on it’s popularity with the whole Ash-Letter thing.

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Next bit of USUM news to drop November 10th (Serebii)

    • That should be Alolan forms for sure

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      *shreeching*

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu
    • Ultron

      Who exactly can give us this kind of information? Arceus? Rotomdex???

      • ghost phoenix

        mew but its prolly deoxys

    • Butter Geek

      So
      Not a diffrent dimension
      Just a f*cking long road trip from Alola

    • Lol that’s oddly precise

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        Its brocks gym clearly

    • Fedex

      Is it me or do the games look better graphically!

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Lysandre sending out his signature partner from a Master Ball. If Giovanni is mass producing them we better get more than 1 too smh https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e8952341b0a918d9fb16e10ece8e41ad141f739c4ae77bf2a861704fcfc17426.png

    • Ultron

      F*ck the masterball, give me more apricorn balls!!

      • UnburdenedLegume

        They should just make an Apricorn shop in Malie city

        • Ultron

          Yesss make the perfect city even more perfect T-T

    • MenacingCascoon

      He needed to master ball a litleo. Weakling

      • I think he just wanted to because he wanted to show off how much of an asshole he is

  • Butter Geek

    It makes sense that Archie and Maxie have pre-remake designs
    If they had, Cyrus, Ghetsis and Lysandre would have to have their remake designs too

    • … no they wouldn’t have?

      They already remade Archie and Maxie. It wasn’t any extra work.

      • Butter Geek

        I mean that if Archie and Maxie had designs from the remake Universe why wouldn’t the rest of Leaders?

        • Because they don’t have remake designs
          Other than maybe Giovanni having at hat but like… he still resembles his FRLG version anyways

  • Fedex

    Wow so next usum news is nov 10th.
    They’re really spoiling us now.
    I predict new alolan forms, ub’s and new forms for the tapus!
    This is really exciting!

  • Chris Hoogeveen

    Well, I seems that mega evolution is featured more prominently.

  • Fedex

    The reveal today was great but I think the real wow/surprising reveals will be on the 10th!

    • Sunny

      Considering the proximity to the CoroCoro date, they will probably be covering the same material. Leaving us with 1-2 more reveals of new material before the games are released.

      • Fedex

        I expect some new mons/forms!

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Legacy fills the final spot on the Japanese site. You have to be in real denial if you dont think things are about to change for Pokemon https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/64955662f6baa86985b37d51361b482210e72b4fec2778685121050e6a91c226.jpg

    • Butter Geek

      I think Pokemon Switch will be Over World-ish Black/White-like games with 100+ new mons so all together it will be a sort of aReboot

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    AGENCY IS PART OF THE FESTIVAL PLAZA WTF

    • Butter Geek

      ughhhhhh

  • Govnah

    I guess im buying all versions

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu
  • I swear to god if we can’t trade totems I’m going to be so pissed

    • EarthenWarrior

      I mean…..unless they’re special Pokemon probably not
      Let’s just hope they can be applied to any totem Pokemon species

  • Govnah

    maybe the reason they didn’t use the remake designs for Archie and Maxie was because it goes with theory that the Ultra Wormholes cross over different timelines? so these versions are from the R/S/E timeline? or im just over thinking it

    • Fedex

      Exactly 👍

    • InfinityD4

      That is what methinks but also methinks GF doesn’t give a damn

  • Fedex

    So how do you guys honestly feel these games compare to BW2 so far?
    I mean they might not be true sequels but they are as close as with all these changes.
    Thoughts??

    • B2W2 will still have a better post game
      May not have had every legendary ever but it had quite a few
      White Treehollow/Black City
      PWT
      Side Quests and areas that you can’t do the first time through
      Plenty of battles you can do such as with N
      Shiny Haxorus

      • DucoLamia

        I don’t feel it’s fair to say whether the post game is “better” or not considering the games haven’t come out yet. However, I do agree that Black and White 2’s facilities are the best

        • Fedex

          Yup. I fully expect usum to dethrone bw2. I mean we’ve not seen the entire fame and they’ve already thrown so many things at us!

          • DucoLamia

            I agree. I hope that whatever they come up with, it will be polished and fun to play!

      • Fedex

        BW2 did set high standards but I’m confident USUM will be as feature packed if not more!

  • MenacingCascoon

    Wait. If totem salazzle isnt a totem in this dimension, how can it grow to be totem sized.

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu
    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      Sorry for the shitty quality

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    The rainbow rocket pic in serebii is nebby getting attacked by Spearow
    NICELY DONE

    • Fedex

      ..eh?

    • Sunny

      That is because it was Giovanni who sent those Spearows after Nebby.

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        HOLY HELL IT MAKES SENSE

  • Govnah

    Posting this again. only thing it most likely got wrong is new Alola Forms
    https://archive-media-0.nyafuu.org/vp/image/1505/66/1505664029359.png

    • Sunny

      Well we know there are more z-moves-Mimikyu-and they decided not to reveal that in this trailer that was announced in a week in advance. I think we expected more to be revealed this trailer because it was announced a week in advance. However we know have had another announcement of a “trailer” coming November 10th. Thus, I think they are still holding out.

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    WAIT A SECOND WAIT A SECOND
    NEW MEGAS SUBTLY CONFIRMED!!!
    OKAYOKAYOKAY LEMME EXPLAIN
    EVERY SINGLE LEADER OF RAINBOW ROCKET SEEMS TO HAVE ACCESS TO MEGA EVOLUTION, GHETSIS INCLUDED.
    THE THING IS…. NOTHING ON HIS TEAM CAN MEGA EVOLVE

    • Why

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        Why what?

        • I don’t get why Ghetsis would get one

          • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

            Because every single leader has access to mega evolution, it shows a certain effect coming from him at a point
            (plus the leak says he’s significant even compared to the other leaders cause he apparently backstabs them)

    • Fedex

      THAT WOULD BE AWESOME

    • InfinityD4

      OR GHETSIS WILL HAVE AN AUDINO(the only Gen 5 Mega that comes to mind)

      • It comes to mind because it’s the only one

        • InfinityD4

          I went to bulbapedia to check as soon as Iposted that

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        I will legit eat my own scrotum if that happens

    • MenacingCascoon

      Except the fact they relace on of his mons with one that can mega. Just like how giovanni got mega mewtwo even though he never used it

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        Please no lets not
        Cyrus has a Houndoom so…

      • InfinityD4

        Giovanni has past association with Mewtwo though

  • So hyped for these games! But, I’m pissed at the fact that Yveltal is an UM exclusive, at least I can get Dialga

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      WELL YOU KNOW WHAT WE GOT THAT YOU DON’T?! MOTHER F**KING REGIGIGAS XD

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    I wonder what corless does in this game considering he’s shown to appear…

    • Sunny

      He’ll talk to you at one point in the game, and battle against you in the battle tree later on. He has much better things to do than care about his deadbeat boss.

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        ;3

      • ghost phoenix

        who said that was ever his boss colress always seemed to be the smarter of the two to me i think colress is secretly behind everything all the wormholes all the members coming together all the powerful pokemon/ultra beasts i mean colresses sole purpose is to find pokemons true power

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    Wait a second…. LILLIE DOESN’T GO TO KANTO
    SHES WITH YOU IN THE POST GAME FOR RAINBOW ROCKET WTF

  • Govnah
  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    So ghetsis mentions needing a puppet in his japanese dialogue….
    Interesting,,,,

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      On that topic, Cyrus refers to actually creating his perfect world and Archie says that as well
      Holy hell they actually won

  • Sunny
    • Govnah

      Why tf is Faba there

      • Sunny

        There were too many individuals with dark clothing in the background and they needed to add someone with clothes of a lighter color palette. He is rubbing his hands nefariously because that is his most natural position and posture.

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        He’s probably a villain too. He betrays people in the anime so it’s likely he is here

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      WHAT THE FUCC WHY

      • Sunny

        They think that Sophocles is like dirt.

        If keep on shoving it down someone’s throat the person will realize that they will not stop until they say that it tastes good and will do so.

        -Marketing for Dummies

        • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

          Oh god

    • Inci should just step on him honestly

      • Sunny

        Or they could fight to the death.

    • Michael A. Lozoya

      Well considering everyone hates so much on the Sophocles’ Festival Plaza I’m not surprised lol

      As for me I didn’t dislike it.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Guzma isn’t a trial captain though.

  • And now, I change my profile pic to something completely unrelated to Pokemon

  • Claus H. Luíz

    Only thing I’m mad about is how they’ve made Mewtwo look like it’s the same height as the protagonist. That creature is a tall-ass 6’07” (2.0 m) which is damn sure not shorter than Giovanni. What dafuq, Game Freak?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25c972fe07e22fe45a9f825eaa0ff425e807795cef22618090d6231be5d329ed.jpg

  • Govnah

    He got the start up right

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    Nobody brought this up but I love how in the Rainbow rocket base it just has guzma holding two rocket grunts back by the face

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    So…. cannonically…. the X and Y universe is… well… dead….
    Meaning…
    Tierno… is…. gone…
    I think Pokemon is making good choices

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Good choices? what? that gen had potential really :/

      • DucoLamia

        It’s pretty obvious Gamefreak did not give a damn about gen 6 after it was finished. You can tell by the way they treated the legendaries and Zygarde( especially Zygarde). If they really cared they would’ve tried to rectify the region that needed it the most, but they scrapped that idea instead.

        So yeah, it had potential…but it’s clear Gamefreak only wanted to do so much with the region…and that was pretty much it. Which sucks.

      • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

        I mean Tierno was wiped from the plane of existence
        That’s good enough for me

    • Sunny

      When they realized that Professor Kukui had eclipsed Professor Sycamore in terms of hotness, thus they decided to do a clean sweep of the X & Y Universe.

      • Lies. Sycamore is the only guy my gay self actually thinks is attractive.

        He’s so hot he turns lesbians straight for him

        • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

          Too bad he’s dead

    • nb97

      Could you tell me why do you say so? I don’t really get it.

      • Dazzling Fireworks

        All the leaders have there respective legendary meaning they come from worlds where they succeeded

  • KᑌᑭᑭO

    My God all the evil team leaders in one game, what kind of story this game will have to make every team leader appear lol and being able to catch what seems to be every legendary is crazy :O

  • Huh, Rica Matsumoto (Voice of Ash/Satoshi) apparently sang the opening of Kamen Rider Ryuki, as well as playing characters in a few Super Sentai seasons. That’s cool

  • ghost phoenix

    so just a thought by a rambly person but just what if colress is really behind everything i mean what if his pokemon energy device in bw2 created wormholes we didnt know about until now just a thought

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Hapu’s Mudsdale is now lv54 and I also noticed that she has a Golurk who replaces one of her mons in SM. Longer main story confirmed I’d say https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/986602cbc91bfd4ccc84391bc0afc2c65e71123dc01da2f7a004b7f07871e151.jpg

    • Govnah

      nice find!

    • Sunny

      54! What level are the Pokémon of the E4 going to be?

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Somewhere between 54 and 65 because the RR stuff is post game and Lysandre’s Pyroar was lv65

        • ghost phoenix

          we dont know they are post game its not said anywhere

          • UnburdenedLegume

            If you think RR is main game, then good for you. But they wont so enjoy your delusion while you can

          • ghost phoenix

            really 20th anniversary of a game where team rocket was part of the MAIN game i think they would make it main game also considering the location looks to not be in a wormhole of any kind and most postgame stuff is in or around worm holes plus how often do the storys characters come with you in post game i think its only happened once

          • TheNintendoChip

            I personally agree that it will be post-game content, but it also hasn’t been confirmed. I think you should have shared your opinion in a less abraisive manner.

  • UnburdenedLegume
    • Dazzling Fireworks

      Same here, glad I’m not the only one who had to kind of cut off Faba, Wicke, Guzma and Ghetsis

    • Butter Geek

      Same, but I prefer black bars on top and bottom than cutting of parts of the poster

  • Luigi301

    Guys…I did it. I am actually excited now. All the antagonists of Pokémon in this game. Rentals like they did in RSE. I can’t believe they have all the legends. And now we can use giant totem pokemon

  • ShinyXatu

    I managed to pass 700 Moons in Odyssey this morning! I don’t know how they did it, but for some reason I never get tired of collecting these things.

    • TheNintendoChip

      Do the kingdoms get bigger as you progress? The first two seem pretty small.
      I also tried to 100% each kingdom before progressing, but there are some moons I just can’t find. But I’m sure I looked everywhere. I know some are unlocked in the post game; those don’t appear on the moon list for me yet though. Do you know if some moons are unlocked only after you visit a certain kingdom?

      • ShinyXatu

        Okay so first, definitely don’t bother shooting for 100% before beating the main story because it’s kind of impossible. I’d just go for the ones which you stumble across while exploring initially, but that’s just me. And second, the size of kingdoms doesnt really have a pattern, you can go from a huge one to a smaller one. But yes, there are much larger kingdoms beyond the first two. Those are basically tutorials.


  • Ooh

  • Omg I just realized the alola region theme is hidden in the Solgaleo/Lunala battle theme holy shiiiit that’s amazing

  • Fedex

    I wonder what is RR actual purpose?
    Like what are they tryna achieve in Alola?
    Domination?? Like Magma had it’s Land purpose, each evil team was always after the Legendary mon etc
    What is Rainbow Rockets actual purpose?
    Do they wanna get control over all the Tapus?
    And are they main or post game??

    • Fedex

      And how did Geovanni get the others on their side? Keeping in mind these are arrogant power hungry leaders!?

      • They share a common enemy?

        • Prashanth Raghuram

          The player.

          • Fedex

            Haha imagine if they all mention “an annoying trainer” they faced in their respective regions which technically is us!

      • ghost phoenix

        im assuming they were all actually team rocket to begin with and as exploration got bigger they branched out from the main purpose and became their own teams when in red blue and green we disband team rocket the members scattered to other regions

    • ghost phoenix

      they are all working for colress…. and probably main game id be suprised if they were post game as we dont even have a reason for the main box art legendary so im assuming the reason is RR

      • Fedex

        Makes sense. I dunno I hope we get a strong main game and post game. If executed properly these will be the best games yet!

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      The site seems to hint they have some purpose but doesn’t elaborate on what

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Didnt that leaker said they gonna kidnap someone close to Lillie?

        • Fedex

          Yes they did actually but I feel whatever they’re upto it’s the real deal.

  • ShinyXatu

    More news is coming on November 10 at 10AM PST/1PM EST! It’s on Serebii. I don’t have school that day which is awesome!

    • Fedex

      I honestly expect that to be a bigger reveal as well! Like new mons,new ubs etc

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Wow they’re going strong with the trailers lately, wonder what they’ll show next 😮

    • Butter Geek

      THE SAME DAY SU HIATUS ENDS HELL YEAH

  • Luigi301

    What is island scan again?

    • You scan QR Codes to build up a meter and once it’s filled up, you can scan an island for a rare Pokemon.

  • MenacingCascoon

    Kinda sad we wont have Zygarde Forms, was really looking foward to using it. Back to using Alola Trio I guess

    • ShinyXatu

      What do you mean? You can see Zygarde 50% and Complete in the trailer.

      • MenacingCascoon

        Sorry, I meant in game. It’s gonna be one of the post game legends. You cant get it in game with the cells like SM

  • Josh Omega

    Well this is exciting. Plus more news next week! Really hope that’s where we get new alolan forms! That said I may have to pick up a copy of ultra sun. I may just sell my cop of sun and moon since I won’t play them anymore lol

  • UnburdenedLegume
    • MenacingCascoon

      Grade 30?

      • ghost phoenix

        i noticed that too also those base stats are waaaaaay higher than usual

        • MenacingCascoon

          That’s fully EV trained! I think its a screen for the renting options in battle agency

          • The AI will still probably screw us over with cheap tactics

      • UnburdenedLegume

        I think its a rank in the Battle Agency

  • Govnah

    Pokemon please Remaster the villians themes. dont get lazy like u did with the battle tree. WE NEED A REMASTER OF THIS

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Yes please I want to hear a new remastered DENNIISS

      • Govnah

        Genesect used to be called Dennis

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Makes sense

  • ghost phoenix

    what if all these other teams were team rocket to begin with… i mean we saw how many members they had in R/B/G/Y and G/S what if after “disbanding” they all just started new teams in new regions withe new goals based on each regions beliefs and technology and when Giovanni resurfaced he called them all back to work for him. therefore abolishing the aether foundation lusamine refusing to work for him for whatever reason and RR being formed with no one to stop their destruction so they achieve their goals

    • Fedex

      Nice theory but I doubt it. Each evil team are basically separate and have no relation to each other.
      Maybe grunts from disbanded rocket moved to say Aqua or Magma or even Plasma for example. That could be possible!

      • ghost phoenix

        yeah i wasnt saying the leaders were former rockets im saying the grunts went to various regions and then when giovanni called the grunts convinced the leaders to go help/work for him my main theory is colress is the true leader though… i mean his whole purpose is bringing out a pokemons true power z moves are said to bring out a pokmons full potential and what if colress energy thing from B/W 2 mutated certain pokemon into ultra beasts burst is MR Mime assembly is crustle buzzwole is machamp son and so forth

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    So prolly the final trailer next week will be Necrozma light form and maybe Alolan forms. I could even see them doing an old style trailer like how they did last year for SM. With it being a Pokemon only reveal trailer

  • MenacingCascoon

    Battle Agency better have a doubles option. Doubles is like my favorite way to play with rentals its even more skill and luck involved.

    • I think we’re getting Triple Battle

      • MenacingCascoon

        Have you seen the lag in SM? No way they can get rid of it for USUM for triples.
        But I would LOVE if triples came back for this.

        • ghost phoenix

          actually they can if you remember SM was designed before the new 3ds xl came out USUM designed after so youll still be able to play it on the old 3ds but it will be optimized to run on the new one

        • Govnah
          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            They seem more like rotation battles tho, which are equally as good still

          • MenacingCascoon

            But… But… that doesnt mean no doubles!! ;~:

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        I wish, I really miss them :l

  • Govnah
    • But no mythicals smh

      • MenacingCascoon

        Mythicals. Arent. Found. In-game.

        • I KNOW AND I WANT THEM TO BE

        • ghost phoenix

          yes they are darkrai cresselia mespirit uxie azelf are all mythicals found in game i get the first two are events i was stumped for names

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      All villains all legendaries…

      Now put in there all champions to make this even better 😛

      • Fedex

        YESSSSS 😛

      • Govnah

        Imagine the champions are the challengers for your title 😛

        • MenacingCascoon

          That’d be cool. But unless they came through the portal I doubt it

          • Govnah

            Lol they like slam their fist down when they jump out and look up and like CHALLENGE ME

  • Fedex

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ceba620e52851743b737e95d612024bd3b4fb90145b2629f271f444ac945c2b9.png
    Interesting point. Legendaries levels and availability to use them when fighting RR whom also possess legendary pokemon!
    Articuno and Suicune! Let goooo!

  • I love it!!!! Thank God Web design is giving me a study hall so I can see this!!!!

  • Dazzling Fireworks

    Is there official art for the Rainbow Rocket Grunts?

    • Govnah

      Nah only Giovanni

      • Dazzling Fireworks

        Well that’s unfortunate… I’m loving the design of the male grunt

  • Wait so what is the deal with Totem stickers?
    Do they join in as Allies to you? Does your Pokémon become one? Can just any Pokémon become Totemized?

    I want to know!

    • Govnah

      Find out next time on Dragon ball Z!

    • ghost phoenix

      its probably like a hold item for pokemon and after collecting so many you get an item specoific to each one

    • Certain people like Samson Oak Gift you a Totem Sized Pokemon once you’ve collected a certain amount of stickers.

      https://www.serebii.net/ultrasunultramoon/212.jpg

      • MenacingCascoon

        Yea in a certain confirmed this. You are gifted the totems

      • Darn 🙁 I wanted a totem Weavile or Suicune

        Well already decided I’m going to box them for the main play (none of them impress me enough to use during the game)

        • I’m not gonna grab them until its confirmed if they are shiny huntable or not.

          • ghost phoenix

            they are shiny huntable probably have shiny stickers for shiny versions

          • Shiny Stickers seem ridiculous. Just don’t have it shiny locked so I can SR til the Totem Pokemon is shiny.

          • ghost phoenix

            the point is they want you to collect the stickers so im going to assume shiny stickers but is it just me or does the sticker picture have team magmas logo

          • They will not have Shiny Totem Stickers to redeem for Shiny Totem Pokemon. GameFreak rarely gifts shinies in game.
            If you can hunt for a Shiny Totem Pokemon, it will be like how you can SR for Shiny Type Null in Sun & Moon.
            The logo does look like Team Magma’s Logo, idk why it looks like that.

          • ghost phoenix

            rarely huh weve had a bunch of shinys gifted in game or through events

          • Gyarardos in Gold Silver HeartGold SoulSilver
            Haxorus in Black2 White2
            Gible Black2 Dratini White2
            Thats it for in game 100% shinies. Event Gifts are different. With online event they can choose to release shiny totem pokemon at anytime if they choose to do so. For in game pokemon, they rarely choose to gift you a shiny. GameFreak is more into Shiny Locking than gifting in game shinies.

        • ghost phoenix

          its probably post game redemption only for the stickers just like we all had magearnas QR code for a while but couldnt use it until a certain point

        • It would honestly be ridiculous if any Pokemon could be Totem Sized. In the game, they said the Totem Pokemon got that way via special training.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Awww that means my Kommo-o can’t be the totem

        • Butter Geek

          You could just get the Totem instead of using your Jangmo

        • Unseelie Fairy
        • Why can’t Kommo-o be the totem? It’s a totem in Sun Moon. I’d assume its still a totem in USUM, even if not, it will most likely be one of the gift Totem pokemon they have.

        • Unseelie Fairy

          Oh you mean for your fan fiction

          Good

          That sounds Mary Sue asf

  • I’m just curious if the Totem Pokemon are shiny huntable like Type Null is.
    Note: Totem Pokemon do have shiny sprites
    Totem Pokemon can breed in Sun & Moon
    Totem Trait does not transfer to offspring in Sun & Moon

  • ghost phoenix

    so im pretty sure colress is the true villian…. i have my reasons for thinking that mostly his pokemon energy emitter in B/W2 was never mentioned when you see him constantly again the fact looker is still not sure where ghetsis is but colress still seems to know make me wonder if colress created the ultra space or is from there originally or i might be crazy you pick

    • If anyone created the Ultra Space, it would be Cyrus since his plan in gen 4 was to create a new universe.
      Anyways, according to Screenshots, it implies Ultra Space might just be far away planets.
      https://www.serebii.net/ultrasunultramoon/175.jpg

      • ghost phoenix

        hence why i was thinking colress someone who after B/W2 showed up in every other region after that

        • Still don’t know why you think Colress has anything to do with Ultra Space.
          The only thing he did in games, was create a device that boosts Pokemon’s energy (used only to remove any Crustle blocking paths).
          In the Anime he made a device that fills Pokemon with rage that boosts their power.
          He had no connection to space or anything space related.

          • ghost phoenix

            um he kind of does his design is spacey

          • That’s not enough for him to have any connection to space.

  • And anyone notice on the official site, that Faba appears alongside the villainous leaders in the artwork?

    • And I think this trailer is a good reason to change my form again so quickly

    • I noticed. It confirms that Faba is even a bigger dick than he already is.

  • ghost phoenix

    is it just me or do the totem stickers have the Magma logo on them i wonder if there are stickers for each specific teams logo to show which region that specific totem is from so more totems

    • Butter Geek

      Nah, it’s Just a logo for the Totems

      • ghost phoenix

        are we 100% sure on that though because i wouldnt put it past gamefreak for that small detail

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Hyped asf, these games are gonna be amazing

    Shame about the seeming lack of Alolans tho

    Also Sun’s team in the RR poster is lit

    • Butter Geek

      Especially Wicke, Guzma and Sophocles

  • ghost phoenix

    when the games come out i challenge anybody to make the poster team their team fotr the entire game would be interesting

    • Josh Omega

      I would but I have used all of those Pokémon at least once. That’s of course no including dusk lycanroc. That said I am picking litten so there’s that

  • Butter Geek

    What if the last Z-Stone is specifically for the Totem Sized Mons?

  • ghost phoenix

    so now that we know theres more news about pokemon coming out on the 10th can some one explain masudas fascination with eeveelutions lately https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/925529817134465025

    • Dazzling Fireworks

      Sylveon is probably a coincidence and maybe the three original eeveelutions are getting alolan forms?

      • Fedex

        Alolan forms would be out of this world!

      • ghost phoenix

        im thinking its possible we get an alolan eevee think about it every new gen except 5 i think has had a new eevee form or 2 im skeptical though because what kind of eevee would we get

    • Fedex

      They are upto something! 😛
      Z moves I suspect

  • Unseelie Fairy

    This Japanese trailer is hype asf!

    https://youtu.be/7qlXHmP99BY

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Why japanese trailers are always better

      • ghost phoenix

        japan had 3 trailers

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Legendaries have unique areas like UBs but have a generic background, Zygarde doesn’t have the background but does have a cave one. It’s probably now found in Resolution Cave.

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      ;3

  • ghost phoenix

    so ive posted it a bunch already but i want a bunch of peoples speculation on this https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/925529817134465025

    • Dazzling Fireworks

      I’m like 99% sure it’s alolan forms and nobody except Gamefreak can convince me otherwise

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        Doubtful

        • ghost phoenix

          people said the same about team rocket when masuda tweeted a vague tweet about that so now anything he tweets is under scrutiny not only that he seems to have been retweeting a lot of eevee stuff lately

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            Fair, but not EVERYTHING is a hint or tease. He does have other stuff to promote haha

          • ghost phoenix

            i get that as well but the amount of eevee stuff has been a bit much for me to ignore the possibility plus 3 sets of eevee all in chronological order even if he was just taking a picture of a toy collection who keeps them all in order

  • zess

    Definitely hope there’s a good story behind 🌈RR🌈 like definitely the part of the game I’m looking forward to the most! Also i might get back into battling a bit with the Battle Agency.

  • Unseelie Fairy
    • Butter Geek

      For one second my thought that Alolan Clefable Might still be a possibility, but then I remembered we saw that it’s not the case. And also, isn’t it possible that the Clefairy is the player’s.

    • NOIVERN IS CATCHABLE YES

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      YOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • I’m guessing totem stickers replace zygarde cores

    Kinda sucks because creating a bunch of zygardes was kinda fun

  • Ok listen honestly, there is one thing I seriously want in every Pokémon game moving forward

    The ability to dress up as the other protagonists.

    Because let’s be honest, Game Freak will never create a better female protagonist design than Hilda. She’s too perfect.

    Oh and also let us cross dress because gold’s hat is cool af

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Also let us wear evil team clothes. We did get that Skull vest.

      • Yes. All the yes,

        especially Neo Team Plasma. If there is one thing they did right it was having some kickass costumes

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Still want Omega Magmas’ hoodie. Actually a hoodie where I can actually wear the hood up would be nice.

    • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

      I mean to be fair finger gun protag is actually the best protag design period

    • Ultron

      Yeah I want to cross dress honestly.

      • Animal Crossing, Tomadachi Life, Miitomo, Breath of the Wild, Splatoon, Mario Odyssey

        All games that let you crossdress

        • And some costumes in Miitopia aren’t gender locked and straight up dresses (The Cleric class is about 50% Dresses)

    • DucoLamia

      I wish they did this for Oras. It would’ve been so great!

    • Dazzling Fireworks

      Everything here and more hair color options! I want to have pink and/or green hair!

  • Butter Geek
    • The funny part is that people are still saying this even though no one claimed that they didn’t have anything new in like 3 months

  • Butter Geek

    OH MY GOD IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW THE SOPHOCLES IN THE POSTER EVERYTHING MAKES SENSE NOW
    https://twitter.com/adangarcia92/status/926085320231174144

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I want to keep it this way after beating them.

    • Sunny

      They gave ownership of a high-powered facility to a kid, did they expect that a villainous organization would not take advantage of this opportunity and take it over. I mean it is not like a 10-year old kid can beat these villainous organizations bent on political corruption, eco-terrorism, global destruction, global domination, and etc.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Yeah there’s no way they’d leave the fate of the world to a 10 year old when there are powerful trainers all around. Sophocles is the worst, shame they didn’t “accidentally” kill him.

  • Fedex
    • That screenshot looks tedious as f*ck.
      They shouldn’t have gotten rid of horde battles because those grunt hordes in ORAS was so underused

      • Unseelie Fairy

        I think it’ll be like the Skull Grunts in front of Poni Canyon where we beat two and the rest bug off

        • Hope so. I’m scared that Game Freak’s idea of difficulty is just throw more of the same at the player

        • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

          I thought it was just one or two grunts who used the Pokemon of all the other grunts present

      • Monkeyfuzz

        They are also underleveled, like I can easily beat a horde of level 25’s when I’m level 50 guys, even if all your Mightyena have intimidate. Wild hordes should only be summonable by Honey or Sweet Scent, otherwise it’s regular/SOS.

      • Fedex

        Haha yes I didn’t get a good screenshot, a little wayward but I found the tweet quite funny

    • DucoLamia

      What. The. Hell. There are like 12 of these guys. Please let these be hordes.

  • I need these games to leak so I can find out if totem Salazzle is post game only. If it is then I’m using a new team, if it isn’t, I’m using my old team again but perfected

    • DucoLamia

      I have a feeling these totem Pokemon will be a lot like Zygarde. Meaning–collecting each sticker and getting the Pokemon after fighting it.

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    When you’re a fat kid who owns a shitty carnival and a mafia dude with a mega mewtwo approaches you and takes your life over

  • Butter Geek
    • This bring me to the fact of maybe they did bring back particular old spots and maybe some new places where Legendaries also reside

  • I feel like meowstic is one of those Pokémon that is probably one of my favorites but I always forget how much I love it https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef91d25cc1316b419596c958a596f4e65a331e4aaebb20164d4fba2b62a009d5.jpg

    • DucoLamia

      Meowstic is pretty good actually. It’s a shame it’s outclassed but it’s feasible

    • Dazzling Fireworks

      Honestly, same, only Male tho

  • DucoLamia

    I feel it’s safe to assume that these games will be longer and harder. Considering the fact we’ve seen trainers with more Pokemon than before and at higher levels, I’m sure we’re getting something with a decent difficulty spike.

  • Have they confirmed any returning Totems? Just realized we know we obtain Gumshoos, Salazzal and/or Lurantis, but we do know Salazzal has been replaced… Will all Totems be replaced? Or maybe a select few will

    Either way I’m more hyped than ever

    • Unseelie Fairy

      We’ve seen Lurantis and Kommo-o’s cutscenes

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Guesses:

    Giovanni
    Mega Mewtwo (X in one version, Y in the other)

    Maxie/Archie
    Mega Camerupt/Sharpedo

    Faba
    Mega Slowbro

    Lysandre
    Mega Gyarados (confirmed)

    Not sure about Cyrus or Ghetsis because none of the unused Megas really fit and we see Cyrus using normal Houndoom

    • MenacingCascoon

      What if they used Megas AND Z moves. My goodness there are gonna be hard battles..

    • Butter Geek

      Maybe it’s before he mega evolved the Houndoom

      • Unseelie Fairy

        It’s using a move

  • Yeehaw Its Seraphu

    All I want is a finger gun trainer pose ingame
    Please GF
    THIS IS ALL I WANT

    • MenacingCascoon

      Did you say gun? Censor this NoA please

      • Unseelie Fairy

        NoA censoring died after Bayonetta was put in smash

        • Bayonets in smash is still one of the most amazing things Nintendo has done this decade honestly

          • Unseelie Fairy

            And publishing Bayo2 when Sony and Microsoft turned it down

    • Omg this is what you were on about I love it

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        I TOLD YOU OH MY GOD
        Okayokayokay this is my favorite thing in any pokemon game and I NEED this as a battle trainer pose

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    The battle agency is such fanstory fodder rich and I absolutely adore it

  • Deerlia

    I will not lie, this is… Amazing~
    I guess there’s little to complain about now, we got a pretty kick-flank game development in this one~
    I am most excited to fight Ghetsis again, who will be your baddie rival in this game, deers, if you had to pick one of the major villains?

    • EarthenWarrior

      Archie, he wants to expand the sea so naturally that’s a huge no no in my book

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        You mean he DID it

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Ya boi Guzma of course
      He held two grunts back with his bare hands

      • Unseelie Fairy

        He’s not really a villain by the end by the looks of it tho

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          Oh I know
          But he’s still my rival once he stops. Gotta have somebody to train with yknow, like a sparring partner

    • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

      Definitely Lysandre! I know a lot of people hate him but as XY were my first pokemon games (I know go ahead and kill me) he holds a special place in my heart as the first team leader I took down

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        Ginger wolverine hitler!!
        *theme music starts to play*

    • Butter Geek

      Cyrus, he’s kinda against all my Ideals

    • WhiteSamurott

      Ghetsis, the guy had a mental breakdown that we’re seemingly going to gloss for some reason.

    • Hmm Cyrus probably

      Just realized something about USUM, it doesn’t happen in the ORAS/XY universe. Just ask me why

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Confirmed/likely totems for USUM:

    Grass-Lurantis (confirmed)
    Fire-Marowak
    Electric-Togedemaru
    Fairy – Ribombee
    Dragon-Kommo-o (confirmed)

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Probably washi cause lana was there

      • Unseelie Fairy

        Could be replaced but personally I doubt it, I’m just saying stuff from trailers

    • Butter Geek

      No way, Ribombee is Mina signature I don’t think it’ll be a Totem. But at the same time AloWak was Kiawe’s signature in Sun Moon and it’s a Totem in USUM.

      • Unseelie Fairy

        You kinda contradicted yourself :p

        Also you see a Ribombee in Mina’s house in one of the new trailers

        • Butter Geek

          It may just be her partner, it looks too small to be a totem anyway

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Probably because base Ribombee is only 8 inches tall

  • Monkeyfuzz

    Is Silver canonically Giovannis’ son? Think he could appear somewhere like Red/Blue?

    • Unseelie Fairy

      It’s canon thanks to the Celebi event in HGSS. I’d love if he showed up, even as a cameo and then in the tree.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        The tree was my main thought. I wonder how old he’d be. Also it could be an opportunity to bring Gold and Kris in.

  • Sunny

    Just watched the other trailers on the JP channel and I have got to say that there is one thing that these games make me feel very cloudy about… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7d979a4ca1a95c0e01832ca341bdb61a7c5f64d2e0b3874dd817e83f34c06e8d.png

    ..What the fudge Hau! You are supposed to be our rival and you are hiding behind the heroine/using the heroine as a shield, and right in front of her brother as well. I can’t tell if Gladion is shocked at what has everyone’s attention or if he is about to jump Hau. I would in his shoes. For shame! Hau. For shame!

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Actually I think he’s trying to comfort Lillie ;3
      Maybe he’s trying to get closer to that flo-
      I’m gonna stop

      • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

        That would probably still make Gladion jump him 😉

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          Would anyone mind? It fuels the ya-
          Stopping again

      • Sunny

        I would still jump him if I was Gladion and Lillie was my sister.

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          My response down below explains my reaction

          • Sunny

            There will be blood.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            ;3

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      HOLY SH*T EXPRESSIONS

    • Butter Geek

      I kinda thought he’s comforting Lillie, my first thought was that Hau will be with Lillie in USUM

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        Partly ^^
        I doubt it’ll be a relationship but I agree that it;’s a comfort

      • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

        I REALLY want to be able to date characters in the game (totally optional, only around the characters age, and regardless of gender) so you can choose between Gladion, Hau and Lillie or nobody

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          I’d choose Gladion for the MC

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Aren’t the trial captains around the same age?

          • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

            Hmmm I guess so, but then I’d have to choose between Gladion and Kiawe and I don’t think I could manage

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I’d probably choose Mallow.

          • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

            Wait how old are team grunts again? Because if they were a choice…

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Don’t think it’s stated because there are many. I think Plumeria is 19 but not sure.

          • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

            And then what age are sun/moon

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            11

          • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

            Well f me then

        • Lillie x Moon otp

          • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

            More like Sun x Kiawe

    • Monkeyfuzz

      He’s trying to sneak Nebby out of the bag, sly old Hau.

    • pajamawolfie

      “Hoo-ee! Face your fear, Lillie! You gotta face your fear! I’m definitely not using you as a shield right now!”

      • Sunny

        Sums up my impression of Hau right now.

  • Butter Geek

    I hate myself now
    Some part of my brain started shipping Hau x Lillie

  • Sunny

    Hau has ruined these games for me! I’m going to cancel the pre-orders that I haven’t made yet. (FROWNY FACE)

    • Monkeyfuzz

      He giving you chicken skin?

      • Butter Geek

        Da f*ck is a chicken?

        • TheUltraMonster6893

          Goose bumps

          • Butter Geek

            Itsa joke. Hau said ”chicken skin” and there aren’t chickens in Pokemonm

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    Tf when your principle interrupts a class so he can talk about sports

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    Ok seriously? They’re seriously waiting this long to show us the new Alolan forms? At this point the leaks that had RR are VERY credible and really shouldn’t be doubted. They mention Alolan forms so where are they? I can’t believe TPC would wait this long to show us something that was generally well regarded. I wonder how many there are if they’re willing to hold off spoiling them until either the very last trailer or until the games come out in general. Either way they better be pretty amazing haha

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Oh, simple
      They’re pulling a reverse ORAS
      Why show when a player can start the game, get to route one and srtersFDmhrtehfxbgctzsfdnxcgdfsghdfsfsdzcb vb when something comes out

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        I guess…..I suppose it’s actually better of them top hold off, but it really puts a damper on planning a team hahaha

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          But that makes things so much more fun!!!

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            Very true…..I always have this problem when new games come out. Do I go in 100% spoiler free, but have no plan of action or do I spoil myself so I can plan a team? It’s a very tough choice to make lol

    • Unseelie Fairy

      I don’t think they’re a thing. I’d happily be proved wrong but we’ve had leakers with fake/innacurate parts before

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        We have had times with fake stuff sprinkled in, but at this point there are many credible outlets saying they’re a thing. They wouldn’t be in multiple credible leaks if they weren’t a real thing.

        • Unseelie Fairy

          They could easily be playing up to fan expectations and getting attention by saying new alolans

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            Unlikely

      • Sunny

        This time there are two separate leakers-USUM wishlist and Chinese Riddler-that are mentioning Alola forms.

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        Everything this leaker has said was true… even the battle agency… I mean they didn’t outright name it but they mentioned a rental facility where you could use friend’s mons

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    After years of careful planning Ghetsis is thwarted after he did all the work to get into and betray Rainbow Rocket. His plan failed, his life was basically a waste at this point. The eleven year old who beat him responds without a word
    But with finger guns

  • Sunny

    Remember how in Emerald Battle Frontier we won a medal after winning a certain number of consecutive battles. What if the only way to get the Finger Gun pose is to win a crazy amount of battles in the Battle Agency?

    • Unseelie Fairy

      Actually, if it’s part of a battle style, probably.

  • WhiteSamurott

    Just realized the all of the villains are in their original appearel. Does this means that this is in a universe where Maxie and Archie never make their “interesting” remake fashion choices and Ghetsis never has an aneurysm?

    • Sunny

      But that is impossible! Ghetsis was born with one.

  • I drew Courtney. I think she has one of the coolest character designs in the series https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d46fbe0b5df0756725ebe7ce31bc01a9928b782f51eb31fab74c1b6ced9aa28.jpg

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Seeing as we likely only have one more info drop before launch, I want to share my opinion on this prerelease so far. So, to sum it up with a gif

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/abc9b13319201ae9a0cc35077667ff7f59d1eddd0a2f303202d777762a6821e1.gif

    It’s been terrible. Don’t get me wrong, these look like good games, but I was only excited for then until now because they were new Pokémon games. Only the URS trailer, story trailer, and newest trailer have actually wowed me purely off the games own merit. Don’t get me wrong, I always thought these games would be good. But they’re being poorly shown off. Whilst it’s gotten significantly better, it’s still extremely questionable.

    • Unseelie Fairy

      If Alolan forms are only revealed next week I think I’ll faceplant to Ultra Space

      • They’re almost definitely in the game since rainbow rocket was confirmed

        • Unseelie Fairy

          Riddler:
          “UB aren’t catchable. They are the true enemies in the story”

          I’m not going to be surprised if they’re in, but I’m not too optimistic

          • The riddler isnt who I was talking about. The same rumor with the Alolan oddish had rainbowrocket

          • Unseelie Fairy

            I know, I’m just giving an example of a reliable leaker being wrong

          • True, but literally everything else was right so I 100% believe it

          • Unseelie Fairy

            I just don’t want to be disappointed tbh 😡

          • There isn’t much left to disappoint me really.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      The beginning was atrocious, it steadily got better but mostly those points and the new UBs made me properly excited. Also the spelling mistake in that gif is very annoying.

      • Unseelie Fairy

        Its definetly intentional XD

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/109c67677b67cdaa50109284bd4e66e3fd8c37981688ff18636c4532c8c96a60.jpg
    The fact that he doesn’t say “I’m Maxie of team magma” like he does in the anime triggers me

    • Monkeyfuzz

      His hair looks like a weird hat.

  • What are your favorite characters based purely on design alone? Cuz game freaks character designers are amazing.

    In no order

    Courtney
    Wicke
    N
    Hilda
    Guzma
    Marley
    Elesa (B2W2)
    That pink hair girl in B2W2 who had the lost xtranseiver

    • Unseelie Fairy

      Lillie
      Falkner
      Morty
      Volkner
      Plumeria
      Skyla
      Elesa (Both)
      Olivia
      Red
      Blue
      Aether Employees
      Lusamine
      Gladion
      Maylene
      Sabrina

      • Oh dang I forgot Plumeria
        And the Aether employees

        • Unseelie Fairy

          And I forgot Shelly 😔

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Her name was Yancy

    • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

      Lusamine
      Male Rainbow Rocket Grunt
      Lysandre
      Red
      Blue
      Lillie (Z powered)
      Cress
      Guzma
      Gladion
      Kukui
      Olivia

      • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

        Wait I forgot Phyco and Dulse

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Guzma
      Team Skull as a whole
      Gladion
      Lillie (Zed powered)
      Professor Cookie
      Brendan
      May
      Chicken-chan
      Bucket Boi
      Finger Guns
      Anabel (Both versions)
      And more

    • Sunny

      Soliera
      Soliera
      Soliera
      Soliera
      Soliera
      Soliera
      Soliera
      Sunnyliera!

      I know what I must do now.

    • Her names Yancy

      And my favorite designs are in no order
      Hilda, Lyra, Lana, Lillie, Hala, Koga, Ramos, Blaine, Cyrus, Prof. Rowan, Roxie, Drasna and Marlon

      Just to name a few

      • Ultron

        Marlon, aka fake black dude >.>

    • Ultron

      Hilda
      Hilbert
      Elesa
      Cynthia
      Courtney
      Shelly
      Ethan
      Nanu
      Lillie
      Juniper
      Misty
      Archie
      Ilima
      Karen
      Mars
      Grimsly
      Shauntell
      Malva
      Seibold
      Alder
      Benga

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Hilda
      Flannery (both, ORAS is better though) <3
      Wes (Colosseum)
      Lillie
      Elesa (B2W2)
      Alpha Shelley
      Lance
      N
      Cipher Peon
      Omega Courtney
      Koga
      Karen
      Professor Juniper
      Roxie
      Cynthia
      Professor Sycamore
      Nanu
      Korrina
      Battle Girl ORAS
      Serena
      Probably more.

    • pajamawolfie

      Skull Grunts
      Female Delinquents in ORAS
      Plumeria
      Lana
      Professor Kukui
      Professor Birch
      Zinnia
      Hilda (ripped off shorts with pockets hanging down XD)

    • Also the X and Y beauty

  • pajamawolfie

    SO COOL! I guess there are more version exclusives than I thought. (Where’s Suicune on the list? In both versions?) I hope they’re not shiny-locked: never really hunted a shiny legendary before.

    And there are stickers! Never cared for the Zygarde cells (still gotta finish getting them, because I need the hideous 100% form for completion reasons).

    I guess Lysandre *didn’t* die.

    I really doubt there are more Alolan forms.

    And I get my Poke Ball 2DS tomorrow! So excited!

    • Sunny

      “Villains” never die!

      And Sucuine is in both versions but you need both Raikou and Entei to be able to catch him.

      • pajamawolfie

        Really? How’d you find out?

    • Ultron

      But Zygarde complete is awesome

      • pajamawolfie

        It scares me. Doberman was sorta weird, Matrix Dragon was creepy, Zygarde complete is “kill it with fairies!”

    • I hope to god Pokémon Switch is done with the dual versions cuz I’m sick of version exclusives.

      • pajamawolfie

        I doubt it. They want you to have to trade with other players and stuff (or buy both). But they had BETTER not cost $60 each.

      • Unseelie Fairy

        Eh, at this point version exclusives aren’t too much of a problem but if they conveniently disappear you won’t see me complaining

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      He was pulled from an AU where he won

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Would you guys prefer they finish of Kanto Alolans or would you rather USUM had different regions if they do occur?

    Whilst I’d prefer multiple regions (seeing as we’re getting more focus on every region thanks to Rainbow Rocket) I can see them just using Kanto again.

    Pegasus Rapidash

    Make it happen GF

    • At this point they could do nothing else and I’d be content with life

    • More regions

    • EarthenWarrior

      Anything that gives us a huge region filled to the brim with never before seen Pokemon

  • UnburdenedLegume

    CINCCINO IS CATCHABLE? HAU HAS NOIVERN? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/491db59b7545e0b300ee12eb6d455c357f02ac6242a68ee7a0e8a268303ff876.png I CANT WAIT ANY LONGER LET IT BE THE 17TH ALREADY

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      YAS
      Also is that Lillie battling?

    • I thought Chichino was confirmed a while ago

    • That’s a clefairy

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Its a double battle, Cinccino is the other mon

    • TheUltraMonster6893

      Hmmm Hau has a Noivern huh? That’s interesting. Cool Pokemon. I used one in my X playthrough. It’ll be interesting to see what other changes to the roster there will be.

  • Unseelie Fairy
    • TheUltraMonster6893

      UB Adhesive is the only reason anyone needs to buy USUM lol

      • EarthenWarrior

        Meh just some fugly big head
        But I am annoyed I can’t get Cellblox in Sun

        • Unseelie Fairy

          Then get Ultra Moon

          • EarthenWarrior

            I am but I don’t want it to be my main game

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            So stop complaining?

          • EarthenWarrior

            Until I catch one with a decent nature

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Decent nature? You’re pretending that stony shitt will be able to do anything more than take a rock smash from a mankey

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            Let him dream haha

          • EarthenWarrior

            Seriously can’t I just try to like something these days without everything constantly reminding me that everything is terrible

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Like a pokemon that isn’t trash than

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Says the one who likes Bug types

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Araquanid exists
            So does Volcarona
            And Genesect
            Not all Pokemon I like are trash ;3

            Besides you like Poison types, I’m sure arbok treats you well

          • Unseelie Fairy

            I was just saying a lot of them have wasted potential and are in PU/NU, no need to get triggered lol

            I really don’t care about competitive anymore but I guess you still think I care for some reason?

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I know, I’m not triggered m8
            I’m just saying you’re in the same boat

          • Unseelie Fairy

            I know I am and I don’t attempt to self validate my opinions with competitive worth? I mean you don’t see anybody give you hell over Masquerain

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I know, I just brought it up cause you did

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Then why insult something Earthen likes for being bad in comp when tons of the stuff you like is lower tier?

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Salt because the mon had potential to be a different type
            That’s all :3

          • Fedex

            LOL

          • Fedex

            Well said 👍

          • EarthenWarrior

            I like Cellbox damn it
            I like the look, it’s type is fine by me, I want to see what it can do, it’s probably gonna suck and will rely heavily on Air Balloon but who the eff cares
            Jesus

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            But they made it literally the most bland type
            Like…. why? Isn’t the entire point of UBs to be unique in some way?

          • EarthenWarrior

            I don’t care, honestly there’s only like one rock/steel line and it’s Aggrons

            And I like rock and steel types

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Bastiodon and Probopass but that’s still only four fully evolved Pokémon

            It’s as common as Grass/Ghost really and people think that’s original

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Reminder: There is only one Grass/Ground
            Actually why

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I refuse, that piece of bland typed garbage needs to be called out for the wasted potential it had

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Why

          • EarthenWarrior

            Because I don’t want to see Lunala when I start my game (nor ride it in ultra space), and I like the sun version exclusives

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            Based on the prerelease cards from a week or so ago it seems like you’ll be riding Lunala into Ultra Space anyway if you pick Sun. Check the pic out again an look carefuly

        • I’ll trade you

          • EarthenWarrior

            Deal, but I want it to be either Impish or Relaxed

            And I will give you my Komburstion

          • EarthenWarrior

            Modest or Timid

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Timid is always the right nature for something like that
            Unless it’s physical for some weird reason

          • EarthenWarrior

            It may not have a whole lot of speed that even invested won’t do so much

            And by the way did you notice it has pupils on the stars? And if it chucks it’s head does that mean it’s mouth is directly linked to the neck hole?

          • Unseelie Fairy

            I don’t think it has a proper mouth because it seems to suck up vitality in a non physical way due to typing and description

          • EarthenWarrior

            Good point it was just a thought

          • Unseelie Fairy

            It could be its mouth but I’m not really sure myself XD

          • EarthenWarrior

            I see that because it has to have an eating animation in refresh and I can see it just burning a pokebean or just opening up a hole in its frilly neck

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Iirc stuff like Magnemite can still eat in Refresh? So it might not be the best indicator

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            It’s an Ultra Beast
            Trying to understand them is like attempting to swim in fire at this point

          • EarthenWarrior

            Ultra beast or not it still has some discernible physiology and anatomy

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I mean Xurkitree

          • EarthenWarrior

            Cluster of tendrils to move, grounding claws in the tips and tail that can “plug” into the ground and absorb electricity and it’s brain, and energy storage might be in that glowing spiky head

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            But like what act as its arms and legs? Are they the same thing?

          • EarthenWarrior

            …it has legs and arms and a tail all in the appropriate places

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I forget that’s a tail

          • EarthenWarrior

            And it walks like a mostly regular abet silly frolicking way

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            True

          • EarthenWarrior

            I am just trying to establish some sense of biology on these extrademensional creatures, I mean they have working bodies and I wanna learn how they work even if they don’t apply to our laws of science

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Nice hacked Combusken

          • EarthenWarrior

            Piss off

          • UnburdenedLegume

            You talking about natures as if you already know its stats distribution lol

          • EarthenWarrior

            It doesn’t take a genius to hypothesize that Assembly is a physical wall and Burst a special attacker

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            “Vikavolt is fast”

          • Sunniera

            It is probably fast compared to a human.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I know I’m just saying apperance doesn’t always effect stats

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Inb4 its reversed

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Inb4 it’s a special glass Cannon with higher speed than Pheromosa

      • Fedex

        Harsh!

    • pajamawolfie

      UB Sticky isn’t the ONLY reason:

      Mantine Surf, baby!

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Wait i thought they dont have their own personalized area, just this gray room? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2274f78e7d4372a9e6a776a25762953b367042ab36730cdc5ff306eaac3a6a3d.png

    • TheUltraMonster6893

      I think each room is more or less the same only with minor differences to match the specific Pokemon’s traits

    • Unseelie Fairy

      The legends in ORAS had their own locations but a generic background

      It’s not surprising

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    So the only thing from the credible leaks that I’m having a hard time believing is the part in the USUM Wishlist where it says “new Pokes”. New UBs are one thing (which it also stated there would be new ones of) and new Alolan forms almost seem like a given to some degree, but new Pokemon in general seems like a stretch. I don’t think they’d introduce regular new Pokemon part way through a gen. Not at this point. I wish the leak was a bit more specific (as in brand new Pokemon or just new to Alola). That would make it easier to understand. I think USUM would be considered one of the best Pokemon games of all time if it not only had everything we’ve confirmed, but also had brand new Pokemon to boot.

    • Sunniera

      Does Dusk Lycanroc count as a new Pokémon?

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        No it’s a form like the other 2

    • Unseelie Fairy

      I think it’ll just be a new mythical tbh

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        That could be. I’m just wondering at this point where it’d fit in the list as a whole. While it seems weird that Magearna and Marshadow are the only mythicals to date for Alola it also seems fitting as we have a crap ton of other legendary Pokemon in the games as well. I just don’t know at this point.

    • Funktastic

      Fingere crossed by new Pokes they also mean “new evolutions” for pre Gen Pokemon.

  • UnburdenedLegume
    • TheUltraMonster6893

      Nice fan art bruh. But seriously yeah I think the 10th will have Necrozma’s final form and FINALLY show off the new Alolan forms.

  • Ithsme?

    All the evil teams in one? Sounds like 12-year old me’s wet dream. Something a kid making a fan game would’ve created. Honestly, I’m concerned about how this is going to play out.

    Battle factory thingy!! It’s not a fronier but it’s progess!

    Catchable totems are neat, not much more to say.

    Overall pretty heavy news, but there’s a nagging part of me that is worried about RR. Seems to throw all continuity and to an extent, reason, out the window. :/

  • Sunniera

    Sunny has now fused with Soliera to form Sunnyliera.

    • Sunniera

      Make that Sunniera. Sunnyliera is too much of a mouthful.

      • EarthenWarrior

        *Cough*

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    I kind of wish they had used ORAS Maxie and Archie. I prefer their designs from those games than their original designs……..

    • Their newer designs are just so much better. I think there is certainly a reason why they chose those designs

      • Sunniera

        Since this is post-game, I am guessing that Team RR took advantage of the mess made by the dimensional traveling Necrozma in the main story and invaded our world/timeline.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I also prefer the redesigns, especially Archies’. If they include admins the ORAS versions are better too.

    • Unseelie Fairy

      Original designs suit the series celebration and theories better, but the newer designs are way better

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Aren’t they from a parallel universe, where they all reached their goals (aka won) and therefore never came into conflict with the PC of their respective games?

      • Sunniera

        And they came to our world to only be beaten by another 10/11 year old. I fear that this may be the inescapable destiny of all adults and not just villainous leaders.

      • Ithsme?

        Wait, so we have three now?
        We had Mega timeline, and non mega timeline. These designs are from the former, and we have mega evolution.

        Because screw continuity

        • Unseelie Fairy

          There’s pretty much Infinite time lines

          • Ithsme?

            That’s the point. 1 timeline is perfect. 2 is fine. Any more than that is too many.

            Side note, they didn’t have to create a new one for megas. Why couldn’t they just have said that megas were a recently discovered phenomenon?

          • Unseelie Fairy

            I mean it was bound to happen since they introduced time and space travel all the way back in Gen 2

        • UnburdenedLegume

          Idk man its in the 4chan leaks which says that these versions of the evil teams have all won and Giovanni summoned them to Alola to conquer the world

          • Ithsme?

            That makes it even worse, now have at least three, probably four (an unknown timeline where RR comes to be but no megas).

      • Hang on but that’s not possible

        Ghetsis and Lysander couldn’t exist because Cyrus destroyed the existing universe while creating the new one

        • Unseelie Fairy

          It’s mostly like several parallel universes where they succeed, because Maxie and Archie can’t have their goals happen at the same time

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    I still think the craziest announcement of today was “regigigas is exclusive to UM

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Yo i’m finally getting my boi Regigigas through legitimate methods instead of using a cheat on emulator

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        Wait seriously?

        • UnburdenedLegume

          Never got it in gen 4 & then i took a break from Pokemon until late 2012 so when i came back i sorta forgot about all that lol

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Didn’t you have ORAS?

          • UnburdenedLegume

            I have ORAS but as i said i dont have the Regi trio in any of my games, so i dont have Regigigas either

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Hmmm

    • Monkeyfuzz

      It should be in both and linked to the other Regi, it’s so strange to not do that.

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        Yeah it’s really friggin weird tbh…

    • Sunniera

      I agree with that, I would have expected it to be Cresselia since its counterpart is Heatran.

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        Isn’t Cresselia’s counterpart Darkrai?
        Actually why is Darkrai even a mythical?

        • Sunniera

          Think about it in this way. Cresselia is loosely associated with the moon and Heatran might as well be related to the sun in comparison.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Hmmm…
            I dunno.. I really don’t know if I’m on board with it but it makes way more sense than Regigigas Heatran

  • UnburdenedLegume

    So the only thing still missing from the infamous USUM wishlist that hasnt been confirmed yet, is the grass/poison gen 1 Alolan form & Molayne in the E4.

    • Unseelie Fairy

      I’d like it if the E4 was all non Kahunas/Captains tbh :0

    • Ithsme?

      Molayne! I liked that guy.

    • Auragar

      There are no new Alolan mons. And eh I am not sure about Molayne. Maybe.

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    Another question
    The only Kahuna we haven’t seen on a battle screen is Nanu
    So like even though he’s fighting Guzzlord he hasn’t been literally confirmed as a Kahuna
    Does this mean anything?

    • Monkeyfuzz

      We also see Kahili in a cave.

      • Unseelie Fairy

        Where she belongs

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          Never to see the light again

          • EarthenWarrior

            Beat her to death with her own golf club

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Use her Skarmories wings to stab her

          • She has a Toucannon

            Show no mercy

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I’m more annoyed about her….special crobat….
            Supersonic hits every damn time

          • Sunniera

            Why didn’t she teach it Confuse Ray?

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I don’t want to talk about it XD

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Getting style tips from Alolan Dugtrio.

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Your dream E4 for USUM?

    Mine is

    Plumeria
    Molayne
    Kahili
    New character

    Not Ryuki tho because in sick of Dragon E4s lol

    • Plumeria
      Olivia
      Mina
      Nanu

    • Butter Geek

      Ryuki
      Molayne
      Guzma
      Wicke (as an Ice specialist)

      • Why the hell would Wicke be an ice specialist

        She would use normal types if anything

        • Unseelie Fairy

          No fairy types like Swirlix and Spritzee because she’s so sweet

        • Butter Geek

          And Faba is soooo Psychic looking

          • Unseelie Fairy

            I mean he kinda is imo? And it fits his personality

          • His personality makes it make sense though?

            Nothing about Wicke leads to Ice. She is a warm loving sweet sweater mom

          • Butter Geek

            Then I’m going back to my ”Lillie is an Ice specialist” theory (even tho it might be wrong, we double battle someone with an ally using Clefairy)

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I’m assuming she’s Ice/Fairy
            So basically Star-chan is in the game

          • Butter Geek

            I mean everything about Lillie’s design is Ice. In anime her only mon is an Ice type (and Anime also suggests she’s related to Ice type few times)

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Her mon also becomes part fairy, the Pokémon she’s portrayed with most is Clefairy

          • Butter Geek

            I dunno if GF would do a double type specialist. One theory would be that there’s a Fairy/Ice Alolan Clefable so Lillie’s a specialist in the end, but we all know that won’t happen

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I mean in general I doubt she’ll be a type specialist
            Her team will probably be cute/beautiful

          • Butter Geek

            Like her mother’s

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Cept probably cuter

          • Unseelie Fairy

            She was shown with an icy background once and it’s because she was being cold towards her mother.

          • Butter Geek

            Almost every time Kiawe has something like that it’s Fire related. The animation crew know what they’re doing.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Clefairy is not ice
            Also it’s VERY likely that secondary battler with a clefairy is Lillie

          • Butter Geek

            Yeah, that’s the only problem I see with my theory.

          • Unseelie Fairy

            The difference being it happens far more frequently with Kiawe and he’s already been established as a fire specialist

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          I personally hope ghost or fire so she could use a Litwicke

    • pajamawolfie

      – Kneecaps kid
      – The two female Skull Grunts who were fighting over the Skull Tanks (counts as one)
      – One of those old NPC guys who wear shorts pulled up too high and knee socks with sandals (he has a Zekrom for no reason)
      – The female swimmer who hides Poke Balls in her bikini somehow (she’s in a pool when you meet her)

      Or maybe the guy in the Machamp costume, and he uses only fairy types, including a level 96 Cutiefly

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Plumeria (post redemption)
      New Characters

    • pajamawolfie

      OR we fight 4 people with balanced teams; it’d be way harder

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      I’d be fine with that if we replace Kahili with … someone random

      • Butter Geek

        Guzma

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          Actually yes

    • Funktastic

      Olivia and Hala can stay. I don’t mind if they replace Kahili and the Ghost captain with someone new like Molayne

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Kahili is one of the first trailers too where i think she was outside Ten Carat Hill. Maybe she has some role in the main story too

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Plumeria for E4? Ugh

  • Butter Geek

    Wait
    Archie and Maxie won’t have Megas
    Their designs are from the non mega timeline

    • Sunniera

      1. Invade this timeline
      2. Steal Mega stones
      3. Profit

    • Unseelie Fairy

      We’ve never seen Giovanni with a legendary or Mewtwo

      Things change. Giovanni could’ve given them Stones.

  • Monkeyfuzz

    If the legendary Pokemon are shiny locked I’ll be really https://media.giphy.com/media/3oAt21Fnr4i54uK8vK/giphy.gif

    • Unseelie Fairy

      Speaking of a shiny legends, I wonder what shiny Necrozma’s forms will look like :0

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Red light probably.

  • YO WHEN ARE WE GETTING BLOOD MOON LUNALA DISTRIBUTED?

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Gen 8 when the re-release every legend they will remove the shiny lock on Lunala

    • Unseelie Fairy

      We got shiny Resh/Zek and Yvel/Xern at points so it’s defo inevitable

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    I have to be honest, I’m not the biggest fan of Faba being the real villain of Aether

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Faba’s role in SM was way too small so im glad he’s getting more attention now.

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        I am too but like… I wish it wasn’t so obvious … like when Aether was revealed, people took one look at Faba and was like “this is an evil team”

  • Hayley Waalen

    I bet in the 11/10 batch, we’ll hopefully see something new like new Pokemon

    • Fedex

      Yup. Alolan mons, UBs, maybe new Tapu forms!

  • UnburdenedLegume
    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Brock’s Gym because you’re light years away from facing him

      • Sunniera

        No, it’s not far enough.

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          True true

    • Fedex

      I noticed that too. Graphics look well polished. Alola ain’t playing games!

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Seems like the Celesteela one. Pretty background for a pretty Pkm x3

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    Since you’re light years away it’s possible that the mascot legends move through portals faster than the speed of light ….
    Both are slower than purugly

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Wormholes.

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        But if they’re like hyperspeed or something….

        • Monkeyfuzz

          They connect 2 points in space creating a corridor between them, they don’t need to travel fast through them. It’s like folding a piece of paper to get to the other side instead of travelling the full distance I think.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I wish that wasn’t true… cause yknow

    • Unseelie Fairy

      Or distance works differently in ultra space

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        I really hope it doesn’t just for the idea of light speed puruglies existing

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      The portals helped them

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        What if the portal is a purugly

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Sinnoh confirmed then

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            What if all of Sinnoh is just a giant purugly

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            It’d become the worst region

            Wait no it already is oooooooooohhh

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I think you’re thinking about Kalos
            Sinnoh is the region that’s poorly paced with actual a terrible type spread with a good story that’s the only real redeemable factor besides frontier

  • Butter Geek

    My prediction for Lillie’s team:
    As an Ice Specialist
    AloNinetales
    Glaceon
    AloSandslash
    Lapras (Maybe)
    Crabominable (Maybe)
    Not as an Ice specialist
    Clefable
    AloNinetales
    Minior
    Oranguru (Maybe)
    Comfey (Maybe)
    Bewear (Maybe)

    • EarthenWarrior

      Quit pushing the damn ice type on her, the only reason you or anyone thinks this because they gave her an Alolan Vulpix, which is just to push merch and to go with her white outfit

  • Unseelie Fairy
    • Monkeyfuzz

      It does look big but that could just be an overworld thing.

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      No, it’s about the size of the players head so I imagine it would need to be bigger

      • Unseelie Fairy

        It’s only 8 inches big normally

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          But I imagine the player’s head isn’t that much more than that size

          • Unseelie Fairy

            It’s like the size of a player head and nearly a whole other considering the rest of its legs and antennae

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Hmmmm
            Personally I don see it being one because Acerola
            Or maybe they added eight trials or something
            I dunno

          • Butter Geek

            I mean
            It’s confirmed Mina has a Trial
            Either the Kommo one isn’t there or we have 8 of them

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Kommo-o is still there, we have eight

          • Butter Geek

            How do we know that?

          • Unseelie Fairy

            The Japanese trailer I’ve been on about all day? :p

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I mean I think there might be eight
            I’d like if it was eight so we don’t have Mina Kommo-O again

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Unless the ghost totem changes Mina’s and Acerola’s totems are gonna share a type anyway

          • Butter Geek

            What other Alolan Ghost mon could be a Totem in an abandoned Super Market?

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Dhelmise ;3

          • Butter Geek

            -Thrift Market! Now introducing our new Anker lineup!

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Decidueye if they’re willing to use starters, and if they make the store even more broke down or put a sand box in randomly I can see Palossand

          • Monkeyfuzz

            It is near a beach so Palossand would make sense.

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Black sand beach too, imagine how cool a totem Palossand would look :0

          • Unseelie Fairy

            *shiny

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            <3

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            True ….that’s weird

          • Unseelie Fairy

            It already shares a type with Totem Marowak too

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Nuuuu…

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Aren’t totems supposed to be intimidating? 😛

    • Butter Geek

      I’m not sure
      It Looks like a Totem encounter
      Tho I dunno bout the size
      But again it’s Bigger than regular Ribombee probably
      If I had to decide, i’d say yes

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Hapu’s Mudsdale is Level 54 in USUM, 6 levels more than SuMo

    Could indicate a steeper levelling curve even before the Altar

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Only one thing… it’s implied post game legends are level 60 and that Lysander is level 65
      That means the last part of the game has like a 5-7 level radius to work with

    • Sunniera

      Post Game RR leaders were shown with Pokémon at level 65, so we can assume the Champion will have Pokémon of a slightly lower level than them.

      • Unseelie Fairy

        Kukui’s highest in SuMo is 58 so if it’s the same raise Hapu has then it’d be 62, which means it’d be the right kinda range for the post game episode

        • Unseelie Fairy

          *64 actually wow

          LOL I’m dumb

        • ghost phoenix

          except im going to assume post game pokemon will be level 70+ because i doubt whole heartedly RR is post game material wouldnt make any sense whatsoever that it is because then we have 0 conflict for the main part of the game plus this whole game is supposed to be double the length of SM

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Double the script of USUM, its length was never revealed.

          • ghost phoenix

            no double the script of SM which is a total of roughly if you read everything 40 hours of game play so about 20 of script

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            tobefairitslikelyfabaandthereconsquadareyourconflict

          • ghost phoenix

            no its not

      • ghost phoenix

        no one knows if RR is post game …. it never said and i have my money on it not being post game as we dont even have a reason for the box art legendary to exist yet

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Would that mean new areas between the two?

      • ghost phoenix

        it would mean like ive been saying that RR isnt post game

        • Unseelie Fairy

          But RR’s positioning compared to Hapu’s level is irrelevant unless they’re before her (super unlikely)

          • ghost phoenix

            aether foundation was before hapu in the SM if team rocket is now the new main villian after forcing aether out it stands to reason it will take that spot of being before

          • Unseelie Fairy

            But we know that some version of the aether plot happens because we’ve seen it through all the trailers

        • UnburdenedLegume

          RR are lv60+ so that would mean that the league is 70-ish? Nah thats not happening unless its rematches

          • ghost phoenix

            really not happening huh im going to point this out in x and y the E4 levels in the high 60’s the e4 levels were lowered in sun and moon because t was a peaceful environment the general problem in that game was one person so the kahuna didnt really need to intervene. now against 6 people who have each dominated their own region before storming into alola the E4 would have a reason to have stronger pokemon. usually goes hand in hand the stronger the villian the stronger the E4

  • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

    Headcanon that all the Rainbow Rocket Grunts thought they were signing up to perform in a pride parade and they are all very confused… but maybe I just want the male Grunts to be gay

  • Auragar

    So the rumours were right about Rainbow Rocket… the hell… Well I’m interested in seeing how that story works out. And no Mimikyu’s zmove reveal which is odd but ok. Totem stickers are pretty cool I guess seems maybe a bit op but eh. And it is neat that the legends can mega evolve or primal revert if they have the ability to. This also confirms though that this is indeed a third unique timeline. I kind of assumed that it would be but nice to know.

    • ShinyXatu

      I could have sworn I saw Mimikyu’s Z-move in the Japanese trailer…

      • Unseelie Fairy

        It’s pretty much just the same clip we’ve been seeing of it again and again, we still don’t have its name of anything

      • Auragar

        They didn’t make it a point so even if you it doesn’t count still.

  • Hey guys I have a Question should I change around some of my Pokémon Legendaries Lore to become more of a battle of good versus evil?

    I also want one more opinion

    Should I change my game to Pokémon Xenon Version? Or maybe Radon Version?

    • Unseelie Fairy

      The names need to be relevant to the legends/themes in a way so it depends

      • The only reason Granite makes sense is cause the main legend is based on Gaia and its a Ground type (but it also changes form to be Ground/Fire and Ground/Ice)

        • EarthenWarrior

          Mine’s based on Gaia…
          It’s called Gaiasis (Gaia and oasis)

          • Now I must change mine…

          • EarthenWarrior

            It is known as the Verdancy Pkm
            It has existed for countless years giving life to nature, some say the entire Eyanu region was born from a egg it left behind which eventually grew outward covering the land in plantlife

            But long ago humans with no respect for nature corrupted the land with foulness and from this atrocity ancient evil was born Toxigeddon which ravaged the land, in its efforts to control the arberration it lost its life and had to leave a new heir

          • EarthenWarrior

            A little update to the lore Toxigeddon was not its real name or form

            The Toxigeddon you will know is created and named by the villain of the game Ilko of Team Quake, he used actual pollution instead of “malicious intent” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/396e743d0ab96d934202729ac838f22a4fc8b95155a010ee9c3005b4bae13cfe.jpg

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Eyanu region? All the regions have an o in their name. Why’d you deviate from that?

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      But what are their current lore?

      • TheNintendoChip

        To add on, what’s the current name? What’s the theme of the game (b/c obviously there’s a reason for choosing noble gases as the potential names)

        • It was called Granite Version

          The theme was variety in climate as depending on early game options depends on it being hotter or colder

          It was more to have the mascot change slightly to hold more qualities of light. Hence Xenon as I think it is the brightest element in the table

      • An all powerful creature that held qualities of the two types of larger climates in the region (Fire and Ice)

        And an Evil demon spirit that’s main goal was to destroy the entirety of the region. Yet the game is only one version to keep it more focused on the first Legendary

        • I need to make better lore for my stuff honestly

          • TheNintendoChip

            I’m just spit-balling here, but I think the following is a neat idea. Keep in mind that I have no idea what your current plans are for the plot of the story.
            Your main legendary (b/c I assume the “evil demon one” is a lesser legendary) is the fusion of two opposite elements (fire and ice). It could be that throughout the region, everyone knows stories of this divine, majestic being. But when you finally encounter it, it is torn, and ugly — think Kyurem Black/White. It has not found a proper way to integrate fire and ice without one trying to “attack” the other (fire trying to melt ice, water trying to douse fire). You could interpret this as a good (ice)/evil (fire) conflict within the legendary itself (alternatively, fire could just be the more hot-headed, rash side and ice its opposite; they don’t necessarily need to be good or evil. To be honest, I think good vs evil is cliche). It essentially has a split personality, and thus cannot become one whole entity. Upon finally helping it achieve this, it turns into the divine creature in the stories.

          • Hmm this definetly sounds like a good option for me I think I’ll try this out if you don’t mind me using it

          • TheNintendoChip

            Go ahead. I’ve got my own plot so I don’t need it 🙂

          • Thank you!!! This definetly helps me out

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Maybe you should keep it, the environmental thing fits them more to me atleast

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all
  • Unseelie Fairy
    • EarthenWarrior

      Scan?

    • TheUltraMonster6893

      Supposedly it’s rotomdex notifying you of a new encounter

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        Maybe anyway

      • MenacingCascoon

        Would have been helpful in SM with new pokemon not really here because its everythig weve seen before

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Maybe is some sort of Dex nav like feature?

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Which totem Pokémon do you want on your team?

    If I can use Totem Lurantis then I’ll be so contempt lol

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Same

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        Now I’m curious, will you be able to trade or battle with them online? o-o

        • Unseelie Fairy

          Part of me thinks no but part of me also thinks yes

          I’m quite conflicted on it

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            I mean, they do see Op but Pkm is not new in allowing Op things to be able to be battle with ( Ash-Greninja)

    • None, I’d rather have other Pokémon then them (mostly cause most aren’t my favorites in the region)

    • EarthenWarrior

      Kommo-o nuff said
      I’ve made it extremely clear that Jangmo-o is the star of my story, a lost strong willed hatching stolen from his home, tenacious and headstrong with a passion for battling but he is not without flaws, he pushes himself too much and resists compassion from others, but in the very end when he is grown into the King he is destined to be he will be the light of hope in the ever growing darkness

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Ribombee cos its my bae

    • Salazzle!

    • Butter Geek

      Togedemaru

    • ghost phoenix

      we need a totem pikachu or a totem eevee now that i think about it totem eevee might explain this tweet https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/925529817134465025

  • Fedex

    Side note I’m still in Hoenn better be quick or I’ll miss the flight to Alola.
    I decided to WT and try and get hold of at least one Kanto/Johto starter. I thought it would be cool and diff to use in Hoenn main game!
    Guess who I got??

    • Charmander?

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Pikachu

      • Fedex

        Nice try kuppo 🤣

    • EarthenWarrior

      A ratatta

      • Agent F

        Man I’ve had enough of all these Zigzagoons. A sight of a Rattata will freeze me and send me back to the primal age!

        • EarthenWarrior

          I mean I have one that has flame wheel

          • Agent F

            You do!???

          • EarthenWarrior

            Yeh

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Theory: the reason we can catch totems now is because they’re actually treated like separate forms with separate (but better) stats now

  • Monkeyfuzz

    When d’you think the data mining will start?

    • Unseelie Fairy

      Not until a seller breaks street date

    • ShinyXatu

      Early next week most likely, which is probably why they’re doing that trailer next Friday in the first place.

      • ghost phoenix

        they are doing the trailer next friday because a tv show hits 1000 episodes in japan the day before

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      When someone uploads the game in the next which may be in next week

    • Daedardus

      Once people get paid enough bitcoins https://media.giphy.com/media/13OigMK06u1WNy/giphy.gif

    • ghost phoenix

      as soon as someone can crack the preload from the eshop which launched today

  • Agent F

    I am Agent F.
    I..uh mysteriosly appeared today..
    And..uhhh will disappear after next weeks reveal..
    ..uhh and Fedex will appear again..and uhh I haven’t took him hostage..
    And just because I’m called Agent doesn’t mean I’m an Agent..and uhh..I’m not evil and..uh yeah..just pretend..this uhh never happend..I’ll just goo..yeah..ahemm

    • EarthenWarrior

      You suck

      • Agent F

        Don’t underestimate me fam

    • ….
      what are you on about

      • Agent F

        It’s called an awkward joke. I’m joking in an awkward manner intentionally with todays reveal of the Battle agency!

  • MenacingCascoon

    As stated by someone I know, they really missed the opportunity to give a lot of pokemon signature Z moves. All the exclusive moves alola mons only (in most cases) get would have made PERFECT signature Z moves.
    High HorsePower
    First Impression
    Trop Kick
    Zap Zing
    Dragon HAmmer
    Psychic Fangs
    Anchor Shot
    Ice Hammer
    Multi Attack
    Pollen Puff
    Revelation Dance
    Shadow Bone
    Shell Trap.
    I’m sorry but it was seriously a HUGE wasted opportunity, it would make alola mons stand out even more and give them a plus that helps out with their horrible speed. Alola mons have no megas so they already barely stand out as is. It needs something to keep them as strong as others, and even though Z moves arent equal to megas it helps.

    • EarthenWarrior

      So pretty much any new signature attack

      • MenacingCascoon

        ?
        That’s what I said, right?

  • Chaos

    Ok so I missed this earlier today (even though I was at home and completely free)

    Overall nothing revealed here interests me all that much, but I just wanted to note Archie and Maxie looking a lot more like their original selves as opposed to their OR AS versions.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      ORAS versions are better.

  • ghost phoenix

    so ive been looking into this tweet im thinking totem eevee alolan eevee or a new eeveelution but im not sure so ill loeave it up to someone who can read japanese https://twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/925529817134465025

    • Agent F

      Something is definetly on the horizon!

    • zess

      Isn’t it obvious? They’re going to reveal Luigi cap pikachu! But all jokes aside I think people are looking too much into this one.

      • ghost phoenix

        not really zess im only looking into it because about 2 weeks before this masuda was posting eevee stuff like crazy and on the same blog the rocket information was hinted in he talks about eevee being a pokemon that hasnt changed in a while

        • zess

          We’ll hopfully they reveal a new eeveelution or something but as it stands I just don’t see them doing it now but maybe for gen 8.

  • Sunniera

    So I would like to think that Gamefreak had evened out the number of Totem Stickers that we wouldn’t need in order to get Totem Pokémon. It is shown that we can use Totem Salazzle even though it isn’t a Totem in a trail anymore, and I am including Alowak and Ribombee in my the list. That would leave us with 8 Totem Pokémon in each game (since Lurantis and Salazzle are exclusives). 100/9 doesn’t really divide equally. Thus, they would need to make more Totem Pokémon version exclusives, more trials to have a change in their Totem Pokémon, Gamefreak doesn’t care about equal distribution of stickers between Pokémon,or we have more trials (least likely).

    I am going to focus on the second possibility. Thus, assuming no more Totem exclusives, we would need to have 1 trial with a change in Totem Pokémon. We can exclude the Grass, Fire, Fairy, and Dragon trials. That leaves us with Normal, Water, Electric, and Ghost. I personally don’t think that Normal will change their Totem-just because that was already an exclusive in the early games. There are speculations that Togedamaru will be a Totem this time around so that will bring the number to 10 Totems per version. However, this is my opinion, I think that Gumshoos and Alocate will be exclusives as well-they have announced exclusives of Pokémon after revealing them so that is a possibility even though they haven’t revealed Gumshoos as an exclusive yet.

    Thus, I think that Acerola will also have a change-up in her Totem Pokémon. In the Mantine ride reveal trailer they showed Acerola panicking a lot during the trial. It is my conjecture that a stray Totem-there is precedent of stray in the case of Kommo-o-had trespassed in the trial and challenged you. Now who would that stray Totem be? If the other parts of the rumors that we have heard in relation to RR hold true, then I think it would be Alola Parasect (Bug/Ghost). What do all of you think? I mentioned a lot of stuff in this post so I would be happy if you had any comments on any part of the three paragraphs.

    • Sunniera

      I am now looking for where I saw a 100 Totem stickers and I can’t find that info. I may have assumed that because someone may have said that they are probably replacing the 100 zygarde cells…

  • Butter Geek
  • Govnah

    Im ashamed of myself

    • Good

    • Sunniera

      What have you done Cyrus…

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      We all are

    • Agent F

      Don’t be. We’re all curious as to what JM is implying!

    • ghost phoenix

      i need to know cyrus is are you giovannis clone or his brother


      • what

        • ghost phoenix

          its the exact same sprite recycled down to the same lines in the same spot on the face

          • Govnah

          • Sunniera

            Wow…so because they are both middle-aged Caucasian males they look the same to you. Quite dissapointed in you ghost pheonix. (FROWNY FACE)

          • ghost phoenix

            no its because if you put giovannis hair on cyrus you get giovanni its literally the only change

          • Sunniera

            Just making sure that you are aware ghost pheonix, but removing a person’s scalp and exchanging it for another person’s scalp would be extremely painful to the both of them. Don’t do it. We don’t want you to ruin your life by being sent to prison at the young age of…uhhhh…anywhere between 7 and 67.

          • …. no

    • zess

      Love your new avatar! I’m certainly looking forward to battling him the most!

      • Sunniera

        Personally I am looking forward to battling Giovanni the most, I wonder if they will shake up his team even further than just Mewtwo.

        • zess

          He’s my second. But I’m kinda bummed mewtwo wasn’t in his armor it would’ve been a nice addition but I suppose they’ve catered to meet so enough … I can’t help but think they missed a prime opportunity.

        • ghost phoenix

          persian alolan persian

          • Sunniera

            That is a possibility, and I do believe it is the superior of the two forms.

          • ghost phoenix

            could also see nidoking again wait i just thought of something

          • Sunniera

            And that something is?

          • ghost phoenix

            chinese leak said a poison gen 1 pokemon would be getting an alolan form there thought was oddish what if its nidoking alolan nidoking…

          • Sunniera

            I think it might have been a Gen 1 Grass/Poison Pokémon. Oddish line or Bellsprout line.

          • ghost phoenix

            oh the translation i got says just gen 1 poison type

  • zess

    I a little confused on totem stickers. Do they only work on pokemon that can be totem Pokemon or can you use them to make any pokemon a totem Pokemon size? I think it’s the latter.

    • ghost phoenix

      gift pokemon they literally fgift you the pokemon for the stickers

      • zess

        We’ll that sucks😒

        • ghost phoenix

          it really does

      • EarthenWarrior

        Well there goes my chance of a Totem Kommo-o with 5 3/4ths IVs in a heavy ball

        • ghost phoenix

          well we dont know if totem status is breedable yet im assuming because they showed salazzle it might be breedable female only

          • EarthenWarrior

            Well I was assuming we can totem size our own Pokemon

          • ghost phoenix

            yeah they slashed that dream rather quick

  • ghost phoenix

    anyone wanna talk about the possibility of nidoking getting an alolan form and i dont mean a fake one like people have been putting places it if you remember is a gen 1 poison type as well

    • Agent F

      That would be amazing but what would an alolan nidoking be?

      • EarthenWarrior

        Nothing, don’t mess with perfection

      • ghost phoenix

        fairy poison? ice poison ghost poison not to sure at this point

        • EarthenWarrior

          WHY EVEN SUGGEST FAIRY

          • ghost phoenix

            i dunno I TAKE IT BACK GAMEFREAK do not make nidoking a fairy type EVER

          • EarthenWarrior

            Jeezus it’s like a second response at this point, change type immediately to fairy

          • ghost phoenix

            to be fair fairy is the easiest to remember type because of what you just said

  • zess

    I really want the return of in-game events instead of being handed mythical pokemon and the like. Kinda feel it has more meaning when your actually able to “catch them all”

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Event Wormhole where you are given a Cherish Ball before you enter and it is removed from you when you leave like Dream Balls in the Entree.

      • zess

        Maybe we’ll get something like that for gen 8.

  • UnburdenedLegume
    • ghost phoenix

      wait so is guzma helping us ?

      • Sunniera

        No. Guzma is just doing what he does best. Being Guzma.

        • ghost phoenix

          ima assume hes helping us the way he was seriously concerned about lusamine in SM maybe she gets kidnapped or something by RR

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            actually the leak said exactly that

          • ghost phoenix

            said she gets kidnapped by name? interesting i just thought it said somoneone or sopmething egts taken from lilly

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      How many other people can hold grunts back with his bare hands to their face

      • ghost phoenix

        giovanni

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          He needs a Mewtwo to be a threat, otherwise bring a dewgong

    • Auragar

      Guzma is a baws. And those grunts are pathetic.

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Favorite grunt uniform?

    • Sunniera

      Team Galactic

    • Aqua/Plasma 2

    • Unseelie Fairy

      Rocket/Plasma 2

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Plasma 2

      Edgelord ninjas ftw

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Skull

    • ghost phoenix

      gen 2 rocket

    • TheUltraMonster6893

      Neo Plasma for sure.

    • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

      Rainbow Rocket

      • ghost phoenix

        go away rainbow grunt dont make me go get guzma im sure hes around here somewhere

        • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

          No

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Omega Magma

  • TheUltraMonster6893
    • Unseelie Fairy

      There goes my hopes of Alolan Incineroar

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        Pssssh lol

    • ghost phoenix

      is there an image of the reverse side ?

    • MenacingCascoon

      No more pokemon are getting alola forms. MAybe just the rumored grass poison. Thats it

      • Unseelie Fairy

        I severely doubt we’re getting just one new alolan lol, I think we’d get a small handful

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        Why would they only make on new line? That makes no sense. I’d be more worried if there were anything new on on the book, but there isn’t.

      • ghost phoenix

        nidoking too maybe

        • Butter Geek

          why tho

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            Why not?

          • Butter Geek

            I mean it’d be cool but he wasn’t talking about wich mons could have cool forms

          • ghost phoenix

            nidoking was missed by megas on purpose thats why they said it was too powerful as is so maybe it will get an alolan form then a z move

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Is any Pokemon getting new alo forms?

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        Based in the credible leaks there are some coming

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          They’d have revealed them by now tho, just to hype up things and the leak got some things wrong

          • ghost phoenix

            not true they could be saving some suprises for us to find on our own

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            Why would they do that tho, they don’t save up many surprises like that lately and showing them would be a great way to market the game. And alolans were a big feature in SM so it makes little sense to hide them in USUM considering how popular they were

          • ghost phoenix

            20th anniversary plays a huge factor in this so there are bound to be BIG things we wont see until release day

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            This whole pre release season has been weird. You can’t really say it’d make more sense for them to show them off now.

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            I feel you’re too quick to condemn. The leaks have been incredibly correct up til now. Plus multiple leaks that are credible say they’re coming. I’d it was just one then sure, but multiple sources is a different thing

    • Unseelie Fairy

      If it’s worth pointing out, no old alolans or on the cover either. It’s also worth pointing out Rayquaza probably ain’t gonna be in the Dex of 400 so some of these may be post game captures and Dex scan

    • Butter Geek

      Jynx, Arcanine, Ponyta and Psyduck could’ve been cool

      • Unseelie Fairy

        Two of which wouldn’t of happened because they were already in Alola

        • Butter Geek

          There aren’t rules for that. Maybe in USUM something made them change

          • Unseelie Fairy

            It just doesn’t make sense lol, they’re in the exact same environment as they were in SuMo

          • Govnah

            dont start

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        Yeah. I suppose it’s too bad tho

    • ghost phoenix

      wait the book says national pokedex guide anyone wanna put money on getting the national dex?

  • Phantom S

    Which Battle Frontier do you prefer? Gen 3 or 4?

    • Monkeyfuzz

      PWT Gen 5

      • Unseelie Fairy

        This

    • MenacingCascoon

      3 Easily. 7 Facilities. That actually affect the battle. Yes Please, and vary in difficult largely! Yes Please! Gen 4 is nice too, but Gen 3 boy it was good.

    • TheUltraMonster6893

      I liked Black Tower. BF is over rated

  • Monkeyfuzz

    Wondering what other Island Scan we’ll get. I’d like them to become able to SOS call because ones like genderless ones would become available with their HA’s. Also odd that Gen 4 starters seem to be left out.

    • Unseelie Fairy

      Something something Sinnoh confirmed

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Unless they just left them out of the trailer because they already had Fire(Charmander) Grass(Grovyle) and Water(Greninja) shown. Also I want to be able to catch the Alola Starters wild so I can get Moon Ball Rowlet.

  • ghost phoenix

    here we all are talking about US and UM but we have a problem someone needs to sub the original japanese pokemon anime its got 37 episodes subbed out of like 187 its sad

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Are there not fansubs?

      • ghost phoenix

        no they all only go upto 37 or 40 it really is sad we all hate on the 4 kids version but no one wants to sub the original

        • Monkeyfuzz

          It’s not 4kids anymore. Also I thought most popular anime was quickly fansubbed these days. Not sure why this wouldn’t be.

  • Monkeyfuzz
    • UnburdenedLegume

      By far my favourite UI of all time

      • Monkeyfuzz

        It’s like the cockpit of a spaceship.

  • ghost phoenix

    so what are thed odds of us getting tiny inconsequential leaks up until november 10 do we say they are high or low?

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I’d say at least 1, Mimikyus’ Z-move could be revealed beforehand.

      • ghost phoenix

        im thinking they reveal small things with clues leading to the bigger trailer like screenshots and stuff i mean this new trailer releases shortly before corocoro or was it shortly after

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Hm, possibly, I do wonder how much of corocoro will be recaps this issue.

  • Hey guys don’t know if this thought has been said yet, but this confirms something

    USUM might not take place in the ORAS/XY dimension or World based on a very important character… Archie.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e4ab505b6e6dc35c0a5c860496cf95bc7e15a0df6246e98df294835af6870634.png
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1e3a0d442074fb3cf4f3cc35005e33276e3f366ccb509505468f3ba1fe8ad0f7.jpg

    As folks these two may be the same character, but remember that in ORAS Archie was Dark skinned, but in the upcoming USUM he returns to his original Caucasian color palette. Meaning either one if two things

    He was brought to Alola of USUM via Ultra Space and is now thus there are two Archie’s in the world, meaning we still do exist in the Gen.6 timeline and that the RR either has mastered dimensional travel or is another group of Fallers or theory 2, is that Giavonni gathered them from across the world in which USUM exists in meaning that USUM is probably from the original world before the Gen.6 world was conceived.

    This is just a theory I’m pointing out cause it really intrigued and confused me that his original skin rather than his newer skin is used. Making me theorize where we really are in USUM

    • Unseelie Fairy

      He’s from another dimension

      • Is he? No I’m serious was it confirmed? Not arguing I just want to make sure I’m not making this wild theory based on false facts

        • ghost phoenix

          yes it was confirmed

          • T_T
            I finally make a good and solid theory with a good base that could become a huge questioning enigma just for it to be built on a false fact…

          • ghost phoenix

            look into colress that will help hes the one who messed everything up damn colress machine

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Well it was called an alternate world/story from the start.

      • That’s one thing I wanted to bring up, what if USUM is in the Gen.1-5 dimension rather than Gen.6-7.0 (7.0 only cause USUM is the half point of the gen.)

        Meaning maybe in the Gen.6 dimension we don’t encounter certain Legendaries the same way (like how Lugia and Ho-Oh seem to be found on a mountain)

        This game makes me question everything now

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Or it’s in a whole new dimension and they just happen to look like their Gen 3 designs.

    • ghost phoenix

      im suprised you didnt notice the rocket base looks like a pallosand

      • Yeah not till now I didn’t

        • ghost phoenix

          its hilarious and makes me wonder….. what if a palossand helped giovanni

          • Well it makes sense, Giavonni is primarily a Ground user (with exceptions of Kangaskahn, Persian, Beedrill and a few I have missed)

          • ghost phoenix

            so i wonde if he gets a palossand on his team now hmmm

  • ghost phoenix

    i also just found something interesting i cant link it scared of being caught with the info but… lol yeah no but why does team rockets base look like an angry palossand i mean it looks like a very very very very pissed off palossand windows for eyes and mouths

    • Monkeyfuzz

      It just looks like the plaza castle taken over imo.

      • ghost phoenix

        it looks like a redisgned palossand

    • TheUltraMonster6893

      I’m not sure I see it. Just looks like a castle in general. Either way why would you be afraid of getting in trouble? You’re not the one who got the info anyway so what do you care?

  • ghost phoenix

    quick someone draw palosand over the rocket base

  • Monkeyfuzz

    Lusamine and Ultra Recon Squad seem to be on friendly terms in the Japanese trailer.

    • ghost phoenix

      yeah i noticed that too but i cant read japanese so i just assumed it was a friendly argument but also this is just funny loomk at rockets base closely and tell me you dont see a palossand

      • Monkeyfuzz

        She has her back to them and they are all smiling so idk.

        • Nightvalzin

          I tried my best to translate, all I could get is that the person she’s talking to is Lillie.

    • Ultron

      She’s probably just using them to jack their beast balls

      • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

        • Ultron

          Hehe 😉

      • Unseelie Fairy

        Hopefully she’s not jacking Zossie’s beast balls…

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          I believe that is called Lolicon

  • Golden_Flygon
    • Monkeyfuzz

      But where have you been?

      • Golden_Flygon

        It’s for switching my username back to the normal one I usually have

  • Soggy Auggy

    Okay I’m just gonna say it: I’m really annoyed that GFreak didn’t use Archie and Maxie’s redesigns! I know it’s bc of some alternate dimension garbage or a homage to the original ruby and sapphire but DAMN their ORAS designs were sooooo good

    Edit: ALSO why didn’t they use Neo-Plasma Ghetsis design? The BW design is a bit of an eyesore

    • Ultron

      The real problem is that they chose to acknowledge multiple plotlines. Worst decision ever, imo

    • John Jones

      Well if Ghetsis succeeded in his alternate universe then he wouldn’t have changed design?

      • Browserboom

        Yeah like Maxie and Archie

        • MenacingCascoon

          Not really like Maxie and Archie. There is a dimension with their redesign where they did win. So MAxie and Archie not having their redesigns make no sense

          • MenacingCascoon

            Same with ghetsis if they go into dimensions there must be a dimension did get to the B2W2 and killed player character and N was too late. Thus Ghetsis wins and has redesigns. And no Im not being too extra they want to introduce new timelines then there is infinite possibilities

  • Ultron

    Red and Blue better have roles in this plot line…would be totally stupid and a wasted opportunity if they don’t.

    • Browserboom

      And silver

      • Ultron

        That’s be cool too!

  • So, to add more fuel to my rage, apparently Tobias (Sinnoh League) had a Mewtwo on his team. That’s nice. I got this from a YouTube comment, but they said one of the Japanese writers confirmed it on Twitter or something, so idk the validity of this statement.

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Tobias is like that salty kid who generated lv100 legendaries via PKHex because he couldnt beat the game

      • He was apparently based off of a Pokemon TCG Champion (I think it was TCG) with those same Pokemon (I think there was a Mew in there too), he was even named after the guy in the Japanese version

    • Daedardus

      Context? Why should we care?

      • Wasn’t really to make you care, it was just to sort of vent. I only brought it up because I was watching Lumiose Trainer Zac’s review of the Sinnoh League Arc from DP

    • TheReece25

      Cool

  • Browserboom

    I just want some of the past main characters, Gold would be so cool

  • Monkeyfuzz

    I honestly hope that if we do get an in-game national ‘dex (maybe post-game) that it doesn’t affect the shiny charm.

    • Browserboom

      It will, so egg charm is for regional dex

      • Monkeyfuzz

        It’s such a hassle though, 300 is bad enough to have to get.

    • Govnani?

      and it sucks when you have two games to complete lol

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Yeah, even with Bank. It took so long to do in Gen 6 and it wasn’t fun after a while. Now we are around 800 not counting Mythicals and I feel that’s too many for the charm.

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    Anyone else finding it hard to believe the games are only about 2 weeks away? Doesn’t feel real

    • UnburdenedLegume

      And im getting Odyssey 5 days prior too whilst being in the middle of packing up the house! I dont know how to deal with that hahaha

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        Gonna have your hands full haha

    • I need to find my wallet… no joke I lost my wallet with the money for the game

      • Monkeyfuzz

        GL finding it.

        • Thanks it has to be around as I didn’t take it out of the house it might be it in the car or in a Gamestop bag somewherr

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    Hmmmm so apparently that mystery figure that may be a new Pokemon will be revealed on December 27th

    • So two days before my birthday? Hyped!

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        It’ll probably be a mythical for this gen given the time it’s getting shown off

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      So the birthday of the kagamines is the same day as the info leak?! HOLY HELL I AM HYPED

    • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

      What mysterious figure?

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        There’s a figure that doesn’t have a picture. All we know is that it’s either a brand new Pokemon (seemingly most likely) or a new form. Apparently it’s a small Pokemon tho (as per the description) so people are suspecting a new mythical Pokemon

    • Auragar

      So Paul the clickbaiter changed it from a “early 2018” to December 27th reveal? He really love thiss clickbait s*it doesn’t he.

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        He’s not a clickbaiter…he just gives us the I fo he can when he can. He’s was more reliable than you’re making him sound

        • Auragar

          He lost any credibility with his last clickbait. You don’t clickbait unless you never want people to trust you again.

  • Golden_Flygon

    I now have figured out what my team will be in Ultra Sun.

    Seeing how these games seem to be like a “culmination” of a lot of things, such as for the final 3DS games, the villains, etc. I thought that, because these games are what they are, my team will essentially be a culmination of previous Pokémon I’ve used in other playthroughs (though my starter, Litten, will be the only new mon I have throughout the entire journey). But they’ll still be Pokémon I’ll catch throughout the game.

    So for example, I might have Sandstorm (my Flygon back in my most recent Emerald run) and Flux (my Jolteon I used back in X) join the team.

    • Well do as you will. I beat Moon with a former ORAS main team mate on it (didn’t want to train another Pokemon) that team member was Castform which helped v.s. alot of foes

      • Golden_Flygon

        Mad props for using Castform

        • It actually isn’t a bad Pokémon to use because it survived and was real viable in ORAS as it filled my final slot and did real well as a level 60’s Castform

          My ORAS team was
          Swampert
          Linoone
          Swellow
          Hariyama
          Cosplay Pikachu (yeah I used it to battle instead)
          Castform

          This still I think was one of my most likable teams. And I just realized it Idc about team overlap I’ll use Pokémon I like from USUM and not worry about viability

    • This is actually a fantastic idea

      • Golden_Flygon

        Thanks Star

        Also are you officially back now? Never got the chance to ask you

        • I guess so. That was a long af week and it’s nice to be back.

          • Golden_Flygon

            Yeah it’s really great to have you back. A lot of people commented on how much they missed you.

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Actually holy hell I might do this too

      • Golden_Flygon

        Nice! Any mons you’re thinking of that you would like to use again?

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          sgfsda I love this

          Decidueye
          Ampharos
          Flygon
          Araquanid (too good to not make it , even if this does unbalance my team a tad)
          Hawlucha (Originally I used it as a Fly Slave but it actually ended up being one of the best members on my team so I quickly grew to love it)
          The last slot is open and ideally I’d love for Chandelure to go in it

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Maybe it might even be open to a new all star! 😀

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Alex no

          • Yes

          • Golden_Flygon

            Oh the memes

          • Golden_Flygon

            Cool team, it should be very versatile for the main game. I never knew that you adored Hawlucha, it’s amazing that you do too btw.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Yeeee :3
            I might actually run Glaceon as my lasty. I always liked it and used it a ton as a kid but I never tried it on a team

          • Golden_Flygon

            You should use it, it’ll make the team cooler (pun intended)

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I wanna BUT
            That evolution area is probably late as shitt

          • Golden_Flygon

            Oh yeah I forgot, it evolves on Mount Lanakila doesn’t it?

            Well, in that case, I could prob help out by exp sharing it in my Sun version

  • DarkySG

    thats really cool, i love that all the teams are coming together but that worries me that theyre trying to make a “grand ending” to the games and i dont want that :'< hopefully theyre just doing it for the 20th anniversary and nothing more

    well i made one last fakemon in the spirit of halloween since i had it on mind before the month ended, it might look more like a monster from yokai watch but i just wanna make good monster design at the end of the day, hope you enjoy ^w^

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/29fe38765cc96a119132954f880da24d803705cc6d110e0206918ffe8e07d039.png

    ghost/fairy

    was gonna originally be an ultra beast but i like it more as a weird creepy solo mon, based off the oiwa

    • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

      Well they already announced a switch game so the worst that could happen is a total reboot

      • DarkySG

        hmmm well i remember ken sugimori or someone else saying they wanted pokemon to get simpler in design after gen 5 and they never really did that so maybe they will eventually “reboot”

      • Total reboot? Still asked so many times and one will give a straight answer to this question

        Do y’all mean we do another BW and maybe have no old ones return post game, but still have them Bankable (I assume they will make the two compatible in some way)

        Or do you mean, they scrap all 800 some Pokémon for good (to not return for a long time) and refresh it with hundreds more to fill up the void of the old

        Or What?! I really would like to have an explanation for “Total Reboot”

    • Monkeyfuzz

      That’s really scary and would definitely take the title of scariest Pokemon.

  • EarthenWarrior

    The snow kingdom is finished now I have the devil’s amount 666

  • Shady
  • Monkeyfuzz

    Wonder if there’s anything behind the wormholes being different colours
    https://www.serebii.net/ultrasunultramoon/175.jpg
    https://www.serebii.net/ultrasunultramoon/176.jpg

    • Ultra Brock?

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Not far enough.

    • Daedardus

      1463 lightyears, yeah, that’s some bullshit already.

    • belmad

      This comment has been identified as copyright infringement and deleted by RCA – Taylor Swift Entertainment.

    • Ultron

      Wondered that too. I think it’s just different colored holes. When you’re flying through ultra space there are just different colored ones that you swoop into.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        I thought maybe it was for different regions/worlds which might fit with Rainbow Rocket somehow.

        • Ultron

          It’s possible. Either way they look sweet

          • Monkeyfuzz

            They remind me of a film I saw recently that I won’t go into for spoiler reasons.

          • Ultron

            Nuuuu I’m seeing tomorrow

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Superman dies because Hellboy couldn’t stop Dr.Manhatten in time.

          • Ultron

            Good, hate that guy

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      One seems to be for UBS and the other is for legends cause I KNOW that bottom one is mewtwos area

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Hm, but I thought UBs were the regular Ultra Wormhole which is white and blue?

    • TheReece25

      I was guessing that genitalia gen 7 dragon ground legend

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Wha?

  • Oh boy, watching some Cardcaptor Sakura. Not bad so far

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I want a Kero.

      • Yeah, both his True and False forms look nice.

  • TheReece25

    Can anyone show me this mystery figure possible new Pokemon?
    Also.. Sidenote: Hat Pikachu not having AZ Floetta stats or at least better is still a Huge Mistake. A Useable Pikachu, their star mon would be a Huge boost for them. . Money grab wise. Ugh.. oh well. Along with Ash not teaching Pikachu a new move. Thunderbolt and Electro Ball worthless. Volt tackle was where it’s at.

    • Auragar

      There is no picture of it.

  • EarthenWarrior

    700 down 299 left… But I’m stopping for the night

    • TheReece25

      Are you bored yet?

      • EarthenWarrior

        Hell no

  • belmad

    @jsbmonster What is your instagram?

  • Ok ok ok I’m sick and frickin’ tired of hearing “total reboot” for Gen.8 Switch games so someone please explain to me EXACTLY what you mean by this statement as it could mean a variety of things

    Does this mean your looking for another BW style and maybe they link the 3ds and Switch so you can get older Gen. Pokemon instead of giving us them as natural post game Pokémon?

    Does it mean you want a total rehaul of everything, where they dump all 800 some and all previous games thoughts down the crapper and start from the very beginning with a brand new set of Pokémon and keep the old ones silent for a long time?

    Or what on Earth does this “Total Recall” actually mean?! Please explain to me!

    • Atma McClain

      Imo, “reboot” means a remake of Gen1 but with all the new things from Gen6&7 plus perhaps an overhauled story to bring it more in line with the later games, then remaking the other games that haven’t been remade yet before moving on to something brand new.

      • TheReece25

        Meh.. if only they hadn’t put so much emphasis on kanto already. Sounds like the new movie which is cool tho

      • Thank You!!!! Finally someone answers me! And this I would definitely love to have, a revival of the original, but perfected from its flawed origins

        Truly though thank you for finally answering this question for me

    • Ultron

      “Reboot” I think is just calling for a total formula change for the franchise. Keep the important basics that make pokemon pokemon and spice the hell up out of the rest of it. No one is asking for them to get rid of all pass pokemon and stuff like that. Basically just do for pokemon what breath of the wild did for zelda. Except we probably should not expect that level of effort put in in all honesty. It won’t happen on that scale.

      • This also sounds good to me

        Except I keep hearing get rid of the turn based system(or used to at least), but shouldn’t we remember that Pokémon is one of the only franchises left that follows this great system

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          A few others do but Pokemon does it best of the modern day games

          • TheReece25

            It wouldn’t be Pokemon without it. That’s why they gave us pokken

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            One of the best Decidueyes in the world not to brag not to brag

        • Ultron

          No turn based needs to stay….non turn based works for the spinoffs but not main series

      • TheReece25

        It will always be RPG tho.. and I feel they won’t rid of the boxy maze like town designs. Very linear just looks wide open and higher graphics

        • Ultron

          Keep it RPG of course, but I think it could do with being less linear and more “explore the region” on your own? There would have to be some linear-ness to it though.

    • Auragar

      They can’t link the 3DS and Switch.

  • Ok, just finished Episode 1 of Cardcaptor Sakura. Not bad so far

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I should probably watch the sub at some point if I can find it.

      • It’s on Crunchyroll

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Do I have to pay for that?

  • Daedardus
    • TheReece25

      What is this possible new Pokemon ppl speak of???

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Sentient chicken hat.

        • TheReece25

          ???
          Link or pic plz
          Oh not to me.. I c

          • Monkeyfuzz

            It’s a joke.

    • Ultron

      No, the camel toe ruins it

      • TheReece25

        Exactly… like.. wtf.. so uncalled for
        😹😹😹

  • TheReece25

    I’m just praying for an Ultra Pikachu with legendary stats next gen… fingers crossed ✌.. pretend these are crossed

    • Monkeyfuzz

      We got one in ORAS.

      • TheReece25

        Nooooo

    • Auragar

      Nope.

  • Well I’m headed to bed. After my brother has swapped our beds in the bunk bed ugh

    Goodnight!

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Goodnight, don’t bump your head.

  • Deerlia

    Well, i’m stump-ed i cannot figure out for my deer life who looks more dead, Maxie or Cyrus…

    • Ultron

      Maxie looks disgusting

    • Me because I’m dying on the inside

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Cyrus looks more skeletal imo.

  • Ultron

    Am I the only who feels like Black and White’s story would have been better if Ghetsis had been removed altogether or at least altered to just be a destructive force in N’s personal life rather than evil mastermind? The whole point of that game is “opposing ideals,” but then all of that is sort of undermined when we find of *gasp* Ghetsis is evil and has been manipulating N for his own plans. So in the end it ends up not being opposing ideals at all…but good vs evil. Aka there is one right side and one wrong side. That’s not black and white at all. Like I think it would be better if the game made us actually think about what we think is right and wrong and had us make choices that affect the outcome. It came really close and it’s still a great story though. Thoughts?

    • This is why B2W2’s story absolutely fails. Black and White entirely builds up this theme of different ideals (even down to the titles of the games) but it crashes down in the end. You can kind of forgive it though and BW is still fine but B2W2 entirely revolves around this

      • Ultron

        Yeah I suppose B2W2 could’ve fixed this issue I had with it, if only N actually had a role in the story because he’s honestly the most important character. It’s his ideals that we’re supposed to be opposing, but after B/W we hear nothing from him until he swoops in and his legendary is forced to fuse.

    • I think the same, the duality concept is very abstract in Gen 5.
      But I think all the plot is around the concept of Yin and Yang, that complements each other: the idea of the Pokemon to be free vs capture and train them, at the end none of the ideas are bad or good, it only depends on the persons.

      Anyway the main legendaries don’t fit at all with all that. More than ideals and Yin/Yang they always seemed to me more representative of energy sources: fire, electricity and cold fusion.

      • belmad

        I think energy source has some kind of concept in there. Reshiram’s tail is more like olympic flame torch representing past, while Zekrom’s tail is more like high tech turbine, representing future. This juxtaposition was in the game itself, you know Black City White City, Opelucid etc. Black vs. white, truth vs. ideals, past vs. future. You can think truth as being past while ideals represent future.

        Also fire-electricity being energy source while Kyurem representing absolute zero: those three was in one body at first. Kyurem being the shell. So they are fusing with the shell itself. And the results are freaky creatures. They do not look normal. They look like chimeras. That was the intention of their design. Because the perfect fusion could be three of them fusing together and forming the original dragon. We never had a chance to see this. Maybe in future we can.

      • Ultron

        To me, the two legendaries and what they look like are basically irrelevant. All that mattered was that they answered the summons for supporting N and the player’s ideals.

    • Prashanth Raghuram

      I think the plot was pretty well done for the ideas it was trying to convey. Even at the end of the game, N agrees that the him and the player must agree to disagree about the way they view the world, and their relationships with Pokemon. That is a separate parallel plot to Ghetsis. Ghetsis is the clear evil, yet the games show how there can be ambiguity, contradiction and opposition within good too. Agreed, that they couldn’t leave it at a morally grey area and had to introduce a morally evil side in order to give perspective, but that’s pokemon for you folks. The game already made headway in exploring morality as opposed to all the previous games, so I’ll give it that. and it DID make me think. I mean, I’ve been playing Pokemon since 3rd gen, and the scene with Ghetsis and team plasma in Accumala town completely threw me off my game when he started rallying for the liberation of Pokemon. It actually still haunts me till today, how the games mechanics necessitate the “capturing” of these creatures in these devices, almost like we’re brainwashing them into submission. It was the first game that even dealt with the issue. Even Sun/Moon, during Lillie’s rant against Lusamine, asserted how Pokemon aren’t “Things” but more like trainers’ “children”, thereby slightly modifying the way I look at Pokemon. yet B/W will always be the first, shocking, jolt to my sensibilities.
      BUT YES I AGREE, B/W would have been absolutely perfect for a choice-based narrative with multiple endings… But i guess that’s not Pokemon. I hope they do it eventually. Maybe two generations down we might get a B/W remake? seems far’fetched but perhaps.

      • belmad

        I hope they do not make a “remake” to B/W but instead make something like BW3 when the time has come, to keep legacy going on. It would be hard to keep an interesting story going on from what was left but it would be epic if done right. I really liked the idea for choice based multiple-endings. It would be perfect for story-fueled game like BW. They kinda touched it, just a little little bit when the choices you made altered N’s speech at the end.

        • Prashanth Raghuram

          I really hated all the pointless speech choices in S/M x) like wtf. Is it some new style of humor? cause it ain’t funny. Sometimes I’d take some time to consider the options because I wanted the most interesting story-dialogue and then they’d pop an answer that basically means, “WHATEVER YOU CHOSE TO SAY DOESN’T MATTER.”

      • Ultron

        Hm, this is very nice input. The accumula town beginning (which was also great because it kicked the plot off immediately!) was pretty well done. Still a wonderful game, and I’m doubtful GF will ever produce a plot that good, but even the best games can be analyzed 🙂

    • Agent F

      I see what you mean. Personally I like his inclusion as his psychotic personality approach is an interesting twist towards the end and shows the brutal nature of evil group leaders which I feel reflects well with N in his character as well as his past.
      Although you could say BW2 may not have been the WOW that BW was in story/plot I feel it didn’t have to be. BW set the pace and BW2 continued from where it left off.

  • It seems that a reboot is coming soon (for the Switch maybe) and that all about alternate dimensions is just an excuse to justify the reboot plus the movie I choose You…
    USUM seem goodbye games to me, to the formula they’ve been repeating over and over…
    I am happy, sad and scared at the same time.

    • Auragar

      I wouldn’t expect Pokemon Switch to be all that different. I mean SM already changed things up with the terrible Trial system replacing gyms.

      • I also want gyms to come back. We didn’t have a Dark gym, come on.

        • Ultron

          At least we FINALLY got a *prominent* dark type user (basically our first dark type gym leader) that isn’t “evil.” Bless Nanu. Gives me hope for a real dark gym leader for whenever we go back to the gym system.

          • Auragar

            I don’t know if we ever will go back sadly. I mean DP will have gyms but no new gyms.

          • Ultron

            What else could they really do? I mean trials mixed up the formula, but really they function almost exactly like gyms. I’m not confident it’s something they’ll ever truly abandon

          • Auragar

            They could do some other equally garbage replacement just not called trials. I want them to just go back to gyms because nothing will be as good as them.

          • Ultron

            Forreal…the trials are not detailed or thought out enough to be a good replacement. Seriously the electric trial is a joke

          • Agent F

            If they go back to gyms I hope they make them as challenging as trials were. And try to add some freshness to the gym challenge.

          • Auragar

            Challenging? The trials were nothing.

          • Agent F

            Uh no they were actually way more challenging than the gym leaders at least going by 6th generation standards.
            I can’t understand how one would think otherwise.

      • Prashanth Raghuram

        I think the trials were an alola exclusive, since even their themes, back story (connected to the Tapus), the totem Pokemon etc are all so intricately tied to the mythology of Hawa- erm *cough* Alola. So I’m pretty sure the next games will either have gyms or their own regional iterations of them.

        • Auragar

          I know they are exclusive but I am just saying I wouldn’t expect big changes beyond that. You will always be facing an evil team, have a rival, be trying to complete the Pokedex, catching Pokemon, exploring a region, beat the elite 4 and become champion, turn based rpg, etc. It will never be open world. People need to just stop being f*cking stupid.

          • Prashanth Raghuram

            Well, maybe people just need to open up their definition of open-world. For one, I really hope it’s non-linear, cause honestly Pokemon’s format is perfect for non-linear play and I’m apalled why they haven’t done it yet. (Except for that brief period in D/P where the order of Pastoria gym and Veilstone gym doesn’t matter). They also need to greatly increase the space between towns. Melemele Island for example, felt really cramped and not like an island at all. I think they can do wonders with just making for example, three gyms accessible at a time instead of one, and the plot events surrounding these cities also non-linear. I mean, consider BOTW, the stories around each divine beast were beautiful in their own individual right, and doing them in any order besides some prescribed order (basically what Impa tells you to do) does not take anything away from the experience. They also had a great method of exposing the “100 years ago story) through location-based memories. If Pokemon did that, i.e unlock story content by visiting specific areas, then I’d say they pretty much can attain an Open-world feel on a smaller scale of world. With the Switch’s power, they can eliminate the need for separate areas and loading screens and make most visible areas explorable.

          • Auragar

            That’s not going to happen.

          • Prashanth Raghuram

            It kinda has to. I mean, how do you see the current format being ported to the switch? I think at least some of that will

          • Auragar

            Because GameFreak is lazy as hell? Expect Sun/Moon but prettier and without trials and hopefully one main landmass again.

  • Hayley Waalen

    Please hope for Gen 8

  • ShinyXatu

    I decided to stop with 777 Moons today in Odyssey (just for the lucky 7’s). For anyone who is looking to play the game, which should be everyone on Earth, know that it can take some energy and dedication to push much further than this. Still, somehow, I turned on the game and ended up getting 75 more Moons while I previously felt stuck. It’s awesome. Hmm, something Pokémon-related to make this post at all valid…the New 2DS XL Pokeball Edition launches tomorrow, yay!!!

  • Unseelie Fairy

    I just hope the most important feature is added:multiple apricorn balls

  • Butter Geek
    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Oooh!!!

    • Auragar

      *cough* Clickbait. *cough*

  • zess

    I’ll be slightly disappointed if we’re not able to unlock various grunt outfits to wear.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I’d prefer those to the Pikachu stuff.

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    LAST TWO WEEKS Y’ALL

  • EarthenWarrior

    Third night in a row of bad sleep

  • Chris Hoogeveen

    Does the ‘Rainbow’ in Rainbow Rocket refer to the Rainbow colored DNA-thing when you Mega evolve??

    • Sunniera

      I apologize for the community’s neglect in answering your question. Close but no cigar. The Rainbow in RR is obviously a reference to their trademark beverage Mountain Dew Rainbow. The quickest and most colorful way to Type II Diabetes, get yours today.

    • Probably more like the fact that there are a bunch of different teams coming together

      • Butter Geek

        Or they’re just all Queer


  • Found this last night

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Madoka Magika <3

      • I can see you like Madoka Magica. Personally, I don’t really care about it. I’m sure it’s good, it’s just nothing interested me about it or something like that

  • Sunniera

    PSA: Just saw this on another forum.

    “According to Japanese site Pokemon Matome, a Taiwanese shop is already selling USUM.
    The source is from Latios Shih, a famous Taiwanese fan.”

    Some of you that want to remain blind to the game might want to prepare to leave the internet. I am not sure about the veracity of this statement so if there is someone that knows how to and is able to double-check this, please be my guest!

    • Ok, thanks for the warning, I guess

    • Golden_Flygon

      If it’s true, then this sucks. I will be departing if the games do get leaked early (as with any main games being leaked too) in order to not be spoiled.

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      4chan will be where it leaks

    • TheUltraMonster6893

      Was just about to say something. Wonder if it’s true.

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        I hear its just display copies

        • TheUltraMonster6893

          Seems like it. I feel like a store wouldn’t willing break street date THIS early. Of course stores do break street date, but it seems too early for them. At this point I think it’d make more sense if it was an employee that stole/sold it to a friend than the entire store selling early.

          • Sunniera

            I really hope so, I am actually fine and all with them leaking the game early-kind of desensitized to it-but I don’t want it to happen before the last trailer next Friday. It would take away from the relatively small amount of hype that we have had this pre-release season.

    • Butter Geek

      I wonder if Bulbapedia will use information from this

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        I feel like they usually wait until the actual release before updating their pages. I could be wrong tho

        • Dazzling Rainbow Grunt

          Nope, I remember when the leaks came out they had pages for Shiinotic, Salazzle etc. before release

          • TheUltraMonster6893

            Hmmm interesting. Well I guess I was wrong then XP

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        I’m pretty sure they do

    • YAYY

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Let the data mining began

  • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

    So a Magnemite apparently grinned at me… welp

  • Butter Geek

    Well I guess I’m moving out of the Internet until I beat USUM (or more accurately until I need someone’s help with trading a mon from Sun to UM)…

    Or not I dunno yet

    • Sunniera

      Don’t leave us yet! No footage has been uploaded yet so we are still safe.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      You don’t need the internet to do that, just use GTS

      • Butter Geek

        What how
        Trading my mon from regular Sun to Ultra Moon
        I don’t have Pokemon Bank at the Moment

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Oh sorry I misread

  • Browserboom

    The way the trailer started was so hype

  • TheUltraMonster6893
  • TheUltraMonster6893

    Huh….so weird. I didn’t realize that XY got leaked a total of 18 days before the games came out…..I suppose we COULD get something any time now…….

    • Sunniera

      In so many ways don’t let these games be like X&Y.

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        We shall see. I doubt these games will THAT early, but it’s pretty much inevitable that early copies will get out. Just a matter of time really. Hopefully they don’t leak early and ruin the surprise for next Friday

  • MenacingCascoon

    So what’s up then? You guys just all up for voting off people I liked? Fine. You guys all ruin everything ;~;!! Hau has sadly been eliminated. Idk why. Hau was awesome I loved his happy attitude, and he’s just so funny. Goodbye Hau. These people dont know who theyre voting for.
    Vote for least favorite 3!! NOT BEST 3!
    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1V-V_edp-qpKl7CAwSPZHXx31PPqkIRMruql1Vvn-9bg/edit

    • Sunniera

      This is why! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7d979a4ca1a95c0e01832ca341bdb61a7c5f64d2e0b3874dd817e83f34c06e8d.png

      Deserves all of the bad things that have and will happen to him.

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Really Hau?! You’re all crazy he was awesome

    • Monkeyfuzz

      It’s really hard to know who to vote for now, so I’ve started doing it by contribution. I didn’t vote for Hau at all though, even though I was getting there.

      • Sunniera

        One of the three I voted for this time is probably quite popular and a lot of you would probably disagree with me.

        • Monkeyfuzz

          One of mine was Red because he really says and does nothing.

          • Sunniera

            I am also taking into account to some of the meme-worthy anime moments that I have saw and so that led me to vote for…Lillie. Waits for violent riots to begin. In all honesty she is probably going to be in the top 5, but I am having a hard time picking 3.

    • Golden_Flygon

      Hau come people voted him off?

      • Sunniera

        Look at my comment.

  • Govnani?

    if the games leak today. Ill be sad

    • Sunniera

      You’ll be sad and ashamed.

      • Govnani?

        Im already Ashamed

    • Butter Geek

      But Maybe Bulbapedia would have info on Jangmo-o’s game location

      • Govnani?

        Im not using why would I care.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        I’ll be banking/trading parents for my ‘mon over ready to breed them so locations are less important to me for my team. The main things I’ll need to know are Move Tutor moves and maybe new ‘mon/forms, pretty much everything else I’d like to stay away from.

      • Auragar

        Vast Poni Canyon

    • EarthenWarrior

      I just wanna know the Ultra Beasts names

  • Unseelie Fairy

    Why do people think the games can leak? Like, have you never seen the people who’ve said that cracking it would take insane luck, or years and years after the full game releases? SuMo was datamined due to the demo and early releases

    • Unseelie Fairy

      Never mind saw below

      • Sunniera

        Cool.

        • Unseelie Fairy

          If it is leaked I wanna know the old returning mons and if there is alola forms, so guess I’ll be ducking off Pokémon sites XD

          • Sunniera

            Don’t duck off just yet, they haven’t started leaking at all. We will probably know when they start leaking because the first thing they will leak will be the opening scene-which isn’t much-so if I were in your shoes that is when I would duck out. But you probably already know that.

          • Unseelie Fairy

            Oh no I’ll be on until leaks make it here, don’t worry ☺

  • Monkeyfuzz

    Oh btw in case people haven’t seen, the Shiny Silvally event has started across Europe.

  • Govnani?
    • TheUltraMonster6893

      I love the young people….

    • Sunniera

      Belated trite joke: I guess old bosses don’t learn new tricks.

    • Auragar

      He’s definitely he is in his 50s or 60s like good lord.

  • Sunniera
    • Govnani?

      Its fake, they are dumping the pre load

      • Sunniera

        Cool. You have reason to be less ashamed now.

        • Govnani?

          it would take years to crack the seed for the game to work honestly
          its not worth anybody time

          • Sunniera

            Yea. Don’t worry I have heard that many times. I thought that this person may have gotten their hands on a physical copy. I am not that familiar with what CIA is.

          • Govnani?

            it would say GAMECART from what someone on VP said

          • Sunniera

            That is nice to know, and now just the other half of the battle to deal with.

          • EarthenWarrior

            *Facerolls* [Access Granted]

  • Monkeyfuzz
    • Sunniera

      I just realized that Team Plasma was basically a cult.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        So are Magma, Aqua and Galactic.

        • Libertarian Conservative Guy

          Especially Galactic. They were super nihilistic.

        • Sunniera

          Magma and Aqua were eco-terrorists, Galactic were global terrorists (tried to destroy the world), and Plasma were domestic terrorists. That is a better classification. I just meant to point out that Team Plasma’s garb are especially cultish.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Most cults probably wear normal clothes, like Scientology.

          • Sunniera

            True. Wolves in sheeps clothing. Speaking about that, I forgot about Team Flare. They are “Ginger Wolverine and his crew” terrorists.

  • TheUltraMonster6893

    Why did they give Cyrus Houndoom? Wouldn’t it make more sense for him to have Honchkrow or Weavile?

    • Govnani?

      its a mega?

      • TheUltraMonster6893

        But Ghetsis has Hydreigon which is not a mega. If they were gonna give them all Pokemon with megas then why single one out like that?

  • Auragar

    lol People freaking out about the games leaking early. It hasn’t leaked yet people just calm down.

  • UnburdenedLegume
    • Auragar

      Why can’t USA get colored game boxes.

      • Sunniera

        We bland as fudge.

        • Auragar

          Yes we are.

    • Govnani?
      • Auragar

        It’s not it is a display box.

        • Govnani?

          because of the red text?

          • Auragar

            Red text?

          • Govnani?

            on the bottom of the boxes and also how do u know they are in fact display boxes

          • Auragar

            I can’t read Japanese/Chinese. And the way I know is how they are being shown.

          • Govnani?

            I mean u dont know if they are display boxes or not. I dont think Nintendo would waste color boxes for displays lol

          • Auragar

            It is the store’s decision not Nintendo’s. They take a copy of the game open it and gut it then put the empty cases on display.

          • Govnani?

            How do u know tho lol. you know as much as i do lol

          • Auragar

            Because of how they are being displayed, they are clearly there because of the store, and they wouldn’t leave the games inside, no store does.

          • Govnani?

            or the person bought the games and took a picture?

          • Auragar

            No. There is no wrapping and they wouldn’t position like that and on top of the Silvally distro paper.

          • Govnani?

            What if they got a Silvally thingy

          • Auragar

            Dude. No. Just stop. It is just display cases.

          • Govnani?

            Nah i wont.

    • Auragar

      I also love that on the Silvally distro paper that you have Pokemon Sun, Moon, Ultra Moon, and another Sun, no Ultra Sun. Sorry peeps no Silvally if you have Ultra Sun but you can get two if you own Sun.

  • I’m scared as F*ck rn

    My crush is sitting near me during lunch and I am absolutely terrified (I can’t speak so scared I’ll screw up)

    • Sunniera

      Alone or in a group?

      • Group

        • Sunniera

          Any shared interests or struggles aside from Pokémon.

          • No I can’t tell what they are talking about

          • Sunniera

            Social language barriers are a tough one. You may not be able to communicate with them immediately make sure that you act in a way that shows that you may be invested in the subject. Body and facial language is important in this case. Eventually-assuming it is a group of nice kids-they might notice this and ask what you think of the topic, or you might have to take the initiative, ask a question about a small aspect, and convey that you are new to this topic and that you may be interested in learning more about it. What is most important is to act by what you feel is natural and if possible gauge the person of interest’s investments in this topic-without be obvious. If you can’t do the last part without being obvious then don’t make an attempt to and if the group is not nice then do not begin the mission.

        • Sunniera

          Is the group receptive to talking about a game targeted at children.

    • Uhg. Dude just treat her like a normal human being. Stop thinking of her like she’s any different from anyone else

      That’s how you talk to someone when you’re nervous. Remember they’re just a human being.

  • UnburdenedLegume

    Wait so the .cia for USUM has been leaked via the Taiwan e-store? Thats it, the games will be datamined by next week then.

    • Govnani?

      or by tmmr who knows

    • Sunniera

      I am not sure about that.

    • Auragar

      There hasn’t been any leaks yet. They are just display boxes.

      • UnburdenedLegume

        I’m not talking about the boxes

        • Auragar

          Well it hasn’t leaked yet either way.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Thats why i said ”will be datamined by next week”

          • Auragar

            Eh I would say it is more likely they will be datamined the week after during the week of release.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            If the .cia file is leaked, any decent hacker can leak the game files within 24 hours

          • Auragar

            Sure but I don’t see the cia releasing until the week of release.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            I just said that the cia is leaked in Taiwan lol

          • Auragar

            But it isn’t.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Yes it is

          • Auragar

            No it isn’t.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Dude idgaf what you’re saying. I’ve been told that the cia is leaked, and i have no reason not to trust this person.

          • Auragar

            Then you are a moron.

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Ok

          • Govnani?

            If u don’t like what we are saying why do you stay, Clearly your just starting now

          • Auragar

            It isn’t a matter of like or dislike it is a matter of stupidity believing something without proof. Anybody can say whatever they want. “I’m the president of space and everything within it.” Doesn’t make it true.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I do not agree with the CIA for SURE being out yet because Scires or however his name is spelled would have tweeted about it since he always does when these leaks happen. The second he says something, I’ll believe it
            I mean it’s not TOO illogical though, I did play SuMo early

          • UnburdenedLegume

            I never mentioned Scires lol

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Oh I know, I’m saying when he says it its basically 100% confirmed
            So as of now I’m a little skeptical but I’m not in complete disbelief

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Apparently the games are already up for sale in Taiwan

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I heard those were display copies. Wouldn’t be the weirdest thing but I’d expect like another week

          • Auragar

            I don’t think that is how you spell his name, but yes I would believe it if he said something because he is actually reliable and able to prove his s*it.

          • Govnani?

            It did tho.

          • Auragar

            Nah.

          • Govnani?

            Why u so stubborn? like you don’t take anyone else ideas and opinions except yours. It was proven by a source that Taiwan sold the games early yet you wont agree with anybody else.

          • Auragar

            It wasn’t proven. People are just being stupid.

          • TheNintendoChip

            Who said so/where? I’m asking b/c I just started hearing about all this

          • Govnani?

            A reliable Taiwan Pokemon fan

          • Govnani?

            “According to Japanese site Pokemon Matome, a Taiwanese shop is already selling USUM.
            The source is from Latios Shih, a famous Taiwanese fan.”

          • Govnani?

            I remember correctly the demo files were done really quickly

          • UnburdenedLegume

            Demo files were fully datamined after like 2 days or something

          • Govnani?

            I remember I played the demo. I watched Nikki a dataminer the demo files so i got to listen to the music before hand. then i woke up the next morning and mostly everything was data mined

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Data leak in about a day playable in two or three

          • Auragar

            Data would be in a couple hours. Playable eh. But it doesn’t matter until the game is actually leaked.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I mean that was what basically happened to SuMo

          • Auragar

            I only remember that Moon was leaked and available for download I dunno when that all happened and the data was from the demo not the game itself.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            I did play it though so

          • Auragar

            Yeah I am not saying you didn’t, I know Moon leaked early.

    • Sunniera

      The .cia being leaked is unlikely, it may be a correspondence error the forum that I was on relayed info of “questionable” veracity that a Taiwanese store has started selling gen game.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Nrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhh Blizzcon 17 is starting in an hour
    Also I spent the last 2 trying to crack open a coconut

    • Govnani?

      Earthen your here 😀

    • Auragar

      Chainsaw the coconut.

    • Sunniera

      Will Earthen break the coconut, or will someone break through the code for USUM pre-load. Next time on Pokémon Life Z!

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Nutt on the coconut and cover it with almonds so you have a triple nuttt

      • Auragar

        …Dude…

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          Free country, we can say as we wish

          • Auragar

            I guess…

  • Govnani?
    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      Replace everyone with Ghetsis

      • KᑌᑭᑭO

        Because you know, Ghetsis clearly has muscles 😛

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          He owns a Kyruem which probably helps him carry couches

  • Govnani?

    Game leaks
    Me: Cool
    Game dont leak
    Me:Cool

    • Auragar

      Game doesn’t leak and won’t for at least another week
      Me: Yup makes sense.
      Game leaks
      Me: *checks date* Oh it is next week at least. Cool.

      • Govnani?

        Lol Dont reply to me

        • Auragar

          I can reply to whoever I want.

          • Govnani?

            Nah you can’t i wont let u

          • Auragar

            You can’t stop me.

          • Govnani?

            I can 🙂

          • Auragar

            Nah. I am still replying aren’t I?

          • Govnani?

            Yea because ur stubborn 🙂

          • Auragar

            I’ve never said I wasn’t.

          • Govnani?

            but still ur replying to me. your the loser here

          • Auragar

            I don’t see how I can lose when there was nothing to win.

          • Govnani?

            there is nothing to win so we are all losers

          • Auragar

            Makes sense.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Yeah we suck

    • Sunniera

      Three things are certain in life: death, taxes, Govnani? being cool.

      • Govnani?

        Do u like my profile pic

        • Sunniera

          Nani?

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      If you were in the water you’d be a Pyukumuku cause you’re LITERALLY cool as a cucumber

      • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

        Notice my compliment Govvvvvvnaaaaaaaaah

        • Auragar

          Please notice me senpaiiiiiii

          • Govnani?

            no

          • Auragar

            I don’t think anybody besides maybe Paul even is what would be considered a “senpai” to me. Maybe moving I dunno how old he is.

        • Govnani?

          I did.

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            😀

  • EarthenWarrior

    So yeah never put coconut in the microwave
    I put a chunk in to see if it would toast it and it started to pop and explode

    • Auragar

      lol Yeah there is water inside that makes sense.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Well it’s not a whole coconut but a chunk of the meat but yeah it’s watery milky inside

        • Auragar

          Yeah the meat has water in it lol If you wanted to toast it you should have used an open flame.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Maybe if I baked it… Besides I left the meat in boiling water to melt off the skin and particles

            (I tell you husking it was tedious and exhausting)

          • Auragar

            Yeah an oven would probably work as well, just not a microwave. Haha.

    • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

      What’s poppin?

      • EarthenWarrior

        Deeeeez nutz

        • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

          Ewww okay that’s old

          • Govnani?

            but this isnt

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            If its in the produce section its fresh yo

    • Unseelie Fairy

      You’re grounded

      • EarthenWarrior

        I am the ground…

        • Unseelie Fairy

          You’re suspended in the air then

          • Govnani?

            Air balloon

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Telekinesis yo

          • EarthenWarrior

            Do your worst I’m way too heavy

          • Unseelie Fairy

            The air balloon can lift Groudon 👀

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Telekinesis toooooo :3

    • KᑌᑭᑭO

      Wow

      That seems like something I would do

      • EarthenWarrior

        Yeah started popping in about 9 seconds but OH MAN DID IT TASTE GOOD

        It was organic coconut

        • KᑌᑭᑭO

          Guess you should do it again

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            *Kuppo used Encore*

          • KᑌᑭᑭO

            *It’s super effective*

          • Pewpew Its Seraphu y’all

            Avoid the taunt

    • Earthen wtf

      • EarthenWarrior

        SCIENCE!!!

  • Agent F

    Ngl I’m the type who likes to see leaks etc
    But I won’t look at any at least until next weeks trailer as I don’t wanna kill the hype. The hype is probably the best part of being a fan!
    I’ll keep myself busy in Hoenn

    • EarthenWarrior

      Oh thanks I needed to check that
      Legacy of the void