Pokémon Generations Episode 8: The Cavern has just been released on the Official Pokémon YouTube Channel.

In The Cavern, we follow Archie and some Team Aqua Grunts to the Seafloor Cavern as they search for the legendary Pokémon, Kyogre.

What do you think of the latest episode? Enjoying the Generations journey so far?

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  • Prince Fae

    First! Also Yay!!! New Episode

  • Prince Fae

    This was the best episode so far, It was honestly so amazing, Shelly’s character was just top notch and amazing, and omg she has abs. Archie on the other hand was made to seem more like a buffoon then he is in the games with a very interesting voice. THIS WAS SO INTENSE I LOVED EVERY SECOND!!!

  • TCRowlet

    BEST. EPISODE. YET.

  • Shady

    I like how Generation push pokemon to extreme level …….I hope pokemon direct adult audience more and not just a kid show.

  • Pokemania88

    Um. I can easily say that was by far the best episode. WOW

  • ook

    http://pokejungle.chatango.com/ is dead…kinda sad 🙁

  • Ultron

    Well…..shit…..Kyogre making Lugia look like a little bitch. It’s kinda funny though how a kid with a puny sceptile can take out this absolutely colossal leviathan whale thing lol.

    • zess

      I love how this series makes the legendary pokemon feel as such. Each motion conveys such power and emotion.

  • zess

    “As long as I have this blue orb Kyogre will do my bidding” *throws blue orb*…..😐

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    That. was. incredible!

  • zess

    Out of all the evil teams Team Aqua really didn’t think their plan out well enough. I mean what did you think would happen if you caused torrential downpours like that….

  • zess

    Everything Archie did or said was either stupid or ironic.

  • Pharap

    Anyone else seen this yet?

    • Sunny

      Best video of the year!

    • zess

      Yep gotta love dat Mimikyu!

    • UnburdenedLegume

      Mimikyu is so freakin adorable <3

    • PumpkinLord

      gotta add Mimikyu to the squad now.

  • Pharap

    Archie is a massive ham, that voice is really OTT
    Also what’s up with his eyes? He looks drugged up.
    Shelly sounds whiney and wears way too much makeup.

    At least Kyogre was cool, the cracking animation was nicely done, as wad the bit where it surfaces. I feel sorry for the wingull and the sea creatures.

    Glad to see the pokemon were making animal noises again.

    That plot made no sense, but at least Kyogre was cool.

    • zess

      I know all those poor pokemon and dat little Spheal went and got its head bashed against the rocks😢. The plot made no sense because Archie is a moron that couldn’t make a good plan if his life depended on it.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Sagastle should’ve been Sandygast’s real name
    Also I swear to Gaia if Alolan Dugtrio isn’t Ground I’m going to be majorly ticked
    Because I’m running low on mono teammates
    Mudsdale
    Pallosand
    Ground Silvally
    And Alolan Dugtrio (if that’s Ground)
    Leaving a gap in my team

    I know for a fact that they’re going to screw up Alolan Golem making it Rock/Steel or shudder Rock/Electric if that stupid lodestone theory is right, they basically ruined all my favorite Kanto Ground types with these stupid Alolan forms

    • Pharap

      Inb4 Golem won’t be able to use Rollout because its tazers and awful beard won’t retract.

    • Fairy

      Tbh I’m glad they’re changing Golem’s type (supposedly), it separates it from the frankly superior treated Onix and Ryhorn Lines

      I wouldn’t worry about Dugtrio losing Ground type, it’s literally Dugtrio add hair, it doesn’t lose what makes it a Ground type.

      Gonna be annoyed if the speculated Ground/Fairy joke typing happens because frankly that thing would be the first Fairy-Type I ever openly dislike and would just feel like a cheap joke tbh

      • Prince Fae

        Ground/Fairy should only happen for a dust bunny pokemon or a pink fairy armadillo pokemon. Dugtrio needs to go away

        • Serenotic

          But, I want a cow boy/ western themed Armadillo! Prinnnnce! T.T lol

          Btw, Hi! 😀

          • zess
          • Serenotic

            Shhh. (I know. :P)

          • Prince Fae

            hey gurl hey! lol a western themed armadilldo would be cool as well, I could see it being like a ground/fighting type or maybe a ground/normal. Is this because of dillions rolling western? (my spelling mistake was intentional)

          • Serenotic

            It might be. Haha. Plus, I just think a armadillo with a western/ cowboy motif is perfection… nudges at a certain character. Lol Ground/Fighting wouldn’t be too bad!

          • Nintendalek42

            Armadillo and pink fairy armadillo are pretty distinct concepts though, enough to make 2 pokémon out of!

    • TheReece25

      You’re actually lucky your type got so much love this gen! what are there.. 4 fire types?

      • EarthenWarrior

        5

        • EarthenWarrior

          Heatigre line 3
          Oricorio Ballie
          Turtonator
          Silvally Fire

      • FleurNyaa

        Meanwhile my types all got queens added to the lineups <3

    • Cosimo

      What about rock types? Or is it just ground? Cause then there is Minior and Lycanroc…

    • Ithsme

      Sandoom
      Sandcursle

  • Fairy

    Damn this episode was good, Archie’s incompetence and voice aside

    Seeing Kyogre being that powerful really inspired me to get back to writing that Pokémon fic I’d been working on.. For all of two seconds before realising I’m lazy af

  • Reece

    I do think that one thing that should spawn from these shorts is more backstory on characters, especially Archie & Maxie.
    They teased us with the photo with Jirachi and Shelley however what drives them to being obsessed with Groudon & Kyogre. How does the leader of their respective team find their admins & scientists etc
    Give me N level exposition and I’ll be happy!

  • zess

    This gave me a good shuckle 😃https://youtu.be/FtYdnwBXp8M

    • Pharap

      In hindsight, I still don’t understand the AZ storyline, I think I lost interest around the part where there was a war and then just rushed ahead to the battle part

      • zess

        Me either normally I’m all about the story but I found his to be rather forgettable I think mostly because we weren’t given enough exposition

    • SOMEONE SPILLED KETCHUP ON MY PANTS

  • Oh my god this was breathtaking. The animation, the voice acting, it was all spot on. The ocean waves and the went seemed primal as Kyogre. Archie talked and acted like the megalomaniac tough pirate he is in the games. Kyogre’s movements were terrifying, yet serene and it just all tied together to create a great piece of animation. One of the best shorts so far. Definitely the best animation wise

    • Pharap

      Animation I’d agree, I disput the voice acting though.

      • Archie maybe a bit too crazy but I think it fits a crazy man on the verge of achieving his wanted power and creating his ideal world.

        • Pharap

          I meant both, not just Archie.

  • TheReece25

    So damn.. is this supposed to happen each time one all of u uber battle. .. is it worth it? :’/
    Also. .. do the girls tight short and panted on pants stop Right at the top of their vaginas???
    These are the questions ..

    • Pharap

      That second sentence… it makes no sense whatsoever.

    • What the heck are you trying to say?

    • EarthenWarrior

      Did you have a stroke mid sentence?

      • TheReece25

        yes

        • EarthenWarrior

          Bummer,

    • TheReece25

      xD

    • Exeledus

      what are words?

  • SpectralSeraph

    I LOVED this episode! Easily my fave!
    (Also, primal Flyogre was great)

  • Pokemania88

    I REALLY hope Zinnia makes an appearance in the next episode.

    • PLEASE!!! I love Zinnia so much

      • EarthenWarrior

        She really didn’t do anything

        • Ok back up right there.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Did everything off screen
            Only a couple bits when she really just exchanged dialogue
            Wigged out when Rayquaza didn’t snog her
            Left

          • Well I mean if you were the last of a dragon worshiping race and thought you were supposed to save the world by being chosen by Rayquaza you would be pretty surprised when it turns out it is some 11 year old w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶w̶h̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶h̶a̶i̶r̶ that turns out to be the one who captures the dragon god of the sky

          • EarthenWarrior

            Yep just snuffed that little bit just like that

          • Exeledus

            lol its funny because its true

  • Chaos

    R.I.P Archie and Shelly.

    Swallowed whole by Kyogre.

    This has to be my favourite episode so far. If only because they managed to fully capture the kind of destruction Primal Kyogre would cause. Something I feel the games never truly managed.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Hmmmm I wonder if Kyogre even has a decent internal anatomy

      • I think he is just a lightbolb inside

        • EarthenWarrior

          Yeh,

    • Ithsme

      GOld and Silver tho

  • TheReece25

    So damn.. is this supposed to happen each time one all of u all uber battle. .. is it worth it? :’/
    Also. .. do the girls tight shorts or painted on pants stop Right at the top of their vaginas???
    These are the questions ..

  • EarthenWarrior
    • TheReece25

      looks really good to me. Also seems Ash was on a trial this entire time

      • UnburdenedLegume

        Since trainers have to be 11 to do the Island Challenge, and Ash is confirmed to be 10 in the S/M anime, I reckon we might get a birthday 🙂

        • Ben Rhodes

          Man another, how many times can one boy turn 11

        • Pharap

          Already brought this up the other day.
          Got shot down by someone telling me aparently Ash had his birthday in the anime once and then they reset it back to 10 or something.

          • Ben Rhodes

            Yes, In Johto Ash had turned 11, once mentioning it was a full year since he set off, celebrating a year since he met Pikachu. Several other times it was mentioned. His Age is constantly in flux, funnily it’s only been constant since the start of B/W, in which it was stated he was Ten and nothing contradicting this has been said since. So hopefully he will be 11 again.

  • Prashanth Raghuram

    Guys im in love with mimikyu

    • Chaos

      I’m already starting to get sick of it

      • Have some mimidecine

        • Chaos

          Ok

      • Prashanth Raghuram

        The rap was pretty horrible i agree… but it just made me go back to it and i just love the concept and i cant stop staring at it

        • Chaos

          I don’t think the idea and design are too bad.

          But if they’re gonna milk the crap out of it. Please….no

          • Prashanth Raghuram

            Exactly. Imma dissociate from all the promotional aspects of it

    • Ithsme

      I did but fell out of love when it didn’t have an evo

      • Prashanth Raghuram

        I always believed as many have expressed that due to it being a gimmick pokemon it wouldn’t get an Evo… yet if what i read is right one or two of the missing models follow mimikyu… unless there’s an update on that

  • Exeledus

    other than archie’s voice and the way he acts and is animated that was pretty good.

  • Fairy

    Guys help, I’m planning out my tertiary team for my Greek Deity run for Sun and Moon and I can’t find a good Pokémon for Hestia (who’s described as the goddess of the hearth, home, and family).

    • Reece

      Female Mudsdale?

    • FleurNyaa

      Seeing as her symbol is a hearth and fire, and she also is a goddess of architecture I was thinking gourgeist. As if you look past the gourd it kinda has a fire almost as if its body is a fireplace.

      • Fairy

        I was mostly wanting to use Alolan Pokémon and Alolan Forms only, but if I can’t find one from either you’ve given me a really good back up! 😀

    • Prashanth Raghuram

      Female turtonator?

      • Fairy

        I’m already using Turtonator as my ‘Hephaestus’ Pokémon, but thanks for the suggestion!

    • Ithsme

      Persian because HOUSEcat?

      • Fairy

        Good back up, not as fitting as I hope but you’ve given a really good option!

        • Ithsme

          I like earthen’s idea, if it isn’t already being used.

          • Fairy

            Sadly, it is, for Poseidon

            But if I can’t find a good enough alternative Wimpod may be Poseidon and Wishiwashi could be Hestia

    • EarthenWarrior

      Wishiwashi duhh

    • FleurNyaa

      Fun fact, I do not know if this helps or anything. But in myths There were only three hearts Aphrodite could not effect. Athena, Artemis, and Hestia who in most accounts is seen as Aphrodite’s antithesis. I think anything with oblivious and can learn fire and or support moves can therefore be used as Hestia in place of the lack of an alolan counterpart.

    • Ithsme

      This is a stretch, but maybe something to do with team skull? They act like family so idk.
      Maybe you’ll have more luck when the rest of the dex is shown off.

    • Fairy

      So I just realised:

      Fire-Type (Hearth)
      Emphasis on Family
      Is an Alolan Form, fitting my criteria

      Do you guys think Alolan Marowak would be a good choice?

      • FleurNyaa

        its a mother toooooooo

      • Ithsme

        What does Marowak have to do with family?

        • Fairy

          It’s not a perfect fit but it is said to wear its mother’s Skull and Marowak in Alola are said explicitly to of adapted to protect the Cubone young.

          • Ithsme

            Oh, the whole mother thing. Yeah that’s perfect!

  • Shady

    I feel Giovanni the only villain whose will stay alive.

  • Ithsme

    So I have more evidence coming soon. I feel this is my strongest point yet.

  • Dude-e

    I loved how the music they used is basically a modern rendition of the original encounter in ruby and sapphire

    • That choir was godly

      • Pokemania88

        IKR it was so epic with all those beautiful harmonies UGH IT WAS SO GOOD

    • Pokemania88

      The music was amazing!

  • Ithsme

    Unpopular opinion it seems: this episode was really boring.

    • FleurNyaa

      I haven’t watched these episodes because when they first did that small arc of this a few years ago I saw clips of the Squirtle/Charmander fight and I nearly quit Pokemon because it made me sad and uncomfortable.

      • Ithsme

        That was censored eventually. None of these have been that harsh.

        • FleurNyaa

          Like what if they showcase the use of guillotine. I would literally bawl. I am so sensitive I know but its just. It kind of blows away the childhood fantasy of them not dying and stuff.

          • Ithsme

            These do seem a bit more tailored to a mature audience (sorry, I don’t know how else to put that), but they still haven’t been too bad.

          • FleurNyaa

            I am nearly twenty two. I’ve always considered myself very mature for my age however I don’t like seeing things hurt and or attacked irl or in fiction.

          • Ithsme

            Yeah, that’s what I meant when I said “I don’t know how else to put this”, I didn’t mean to offend anyone.

        • I don’t think Squirtle/Charmander fight should be censored. I think iut kinda showed how disgusting and deadly battles can be if you don’t put love and care behind it. Maybe I’m just reaching for reasons because I don’t like censorship of art

          • Ithsme

            I don’t agree with it either I’m just reporting facts. xD

          • FleurNyaa

            If Pokemon were real I would be at the mall and salon getting clothes for them and getting their hair and nails did, or relaxing by a pool.

      • Shady

        Hey u …girl…..y did u delete many of ur comments?

        • FleurNyaa

          If I could physically control both the urge to do it and the paranoia that leads me to do it, It wouldn’t happen, I haven’t developed that control yet perhaps maybe it would be better not to post in the first place. I am now confused and conflicted. Ps. I feel like nobody takes anything I say seriously or pays any attention to me. ~

          • Shady

            U should not be perfect all the time, and u shouldn’t care that much how ppl look at u…….for me I think ur clever person so don’t let the dark swallow u will be like create ur unescapable hell by ur own.

    • Chaos

      Damn. I though the Legendary beast one was most boring so far.
      This one was actually cool

      • Ithsme

        It was too drawn out IMO. The best one so far was either the one with Silver or the one with Lance and team rocket hideout.

        • Chaos

          I liked the intensity and ferocity of Kyogre’s power. Something the games never managed to portray all that well.
          This one is up there as one if the better one imo, but I seriously loved the two that Looker episodes about Giovanni

  • EarthenWarrior

    so i have a little non-pokemon esque question (but still relates to it)
    Say you were sucked into some kinda fantasy realm and the realm’s deity grants you a Guardian Familiar to assist you in your travels
    it is composed of three animals and a Element (Fire,Water,Wind,Earth,Lightning,Ice,Plant,Metal)
    what would yours be?

    • FleurNyaa

      A White peacock twice the size of a human male, with Dolphin echolocation, and a jaguars intelligence.. Flower oriented. Roses and Cherry Blossoms.

      • EarthenWarrior

        hmmmm i’ll allow it but it can shrink down to half your size non-combat
        but a special ability is you can mount it

        • FleurNyaa

          I was thinking its was more defensive, its feathers able to shield me and the scents of the flowers were hypnotic and or projected illusions. Shunran from Inuyasha combined with the peacock villian from kung fu panda 2

          • EarthenWarrior

            i can see it too

          • FleurNyaa

            Yup, peacocks are my favorite animal in the world exotic cats my favorite domestic. Plus Jaguars are very intelligent they also have the most humane execution method of all animals by biting the back of the skull crushing it and severing the spinal cord instantly killing.

          • EarthenWarrior

            hmmm if there was only way to mix em all together
            what about a large cat with large wings sprouting along its limbs and a splayed tail that holds more feathers but a simple plant peacock speaks for itself

          • FleurNyaa

            Well I might just end up drawing it. Its hard for me to describe because otherwise I would write a two paragraph description. Its very ornate, delicate, majestic, and feminine.I would imagine the Cherry blossoms and Rose vines intertwining with the feathers every time it spread out it would scatter the petals on the wind the sweet scent intoxicating others. I can’t think of anything else to be honest.

          • EarthenWarrior

            and any other abilities i was thinking
            One special attack that helps battle
            a Field ability: mount, climbing, breaking stuff
            and a buff that increases one of your powers

          • FleurNyaa

            If I ever actually got superpowers I would assume they would be based on personality or demeanor in which I would probably get pheromonal persuasion or a toxic death kiss based on either side of my mentality. Even though I would want Marluxia’s flower powers.

          • EarthenWarrior

            that’s all well and good, but my idea was you get sucked into a fantasy realm
            the realm offers you a ancient familiar to protect you
            the natives of the world recognize the familiar and offer to train you in a variety of classes
            and yadda yadda save the world from evil as dictated in legend

            kinda like pokemon with fire emblem

    • Ithsme

      Ice Lion/Bat/Scorpion

      • Ithsme

        (basically a manticore if you couldn’t tell)

    • Fairy

      Mine would be a a huuuuuge avian/canine creature, the fusion of a Orange Beasted Falcon (head, wings proportionate to the thing’s body), a husky (white and feathery on the top part of the body, orange and feathery on the front, black andnfurry on the bottom part of the body, and dog ears-the colours aren’t husky like, but the shape of the features would be), as well as a peacock for the tail feathers, which would be black and white with straps of gold.

      It’s be a wind Elemental.

    • EarthenWarrior

      a Stone Bear/Armadillo/Mole
      a towering bear with a powerful set of 9inch claws, and a overlapping leathery shell which it can fully curl into a ball

      a special ability is it doubles in size and it grows spikes and mows down crowds of enemies

  • Ithsme

    CHECKMATE (probably a rash declaration but who cares lol)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9696293e20e3a5ba6c22a6fb66c5cfb2012b6fe3bc99a1de4761ced461fa6d4f.png So. I’ve heard people say the strange souvenir isn’t a pokemon. I’ve heard people say that the strang souvenir is the Tapu Ula Ula when closed. I’ve people say that it isn’t from Alola. So I’m here to settle the score.
    (Ok so nothing actually PROVES it’s from alola except there are major hints, such as it being from far away, like Alola is, and I mean come on, how could a tiki not be from Hawaii?)
    Do I win yet? xD

    • FleurNyaa

      I don’t see it to be honest but I hope you are right.

      • Ithsme

        See what?

        • Ithsme

          If you mean see the resemblance between the two, then good! You aren’t supposed to see resemblance because it isn’t there!

    • Ben Rhodes

      It’s possible that it’s generic, represents all 4 Guardians.
      Or that it’s what one originally looked like at that point in development.
      Though it could be another legend OUTSIDE the regional dex.
      We have all the new ones in the regional Dex, but the National Dex isn’t there, like Gen 4 there could be new ones, but outside the regional dex, like Heatran,Regigigas,Cresselia and Phione, this might be where a Third Legend is if one exists.
      I’d love to believe this isn’t all either but gotta accept it until shown it isn’t really.

      • Ithsme

        Nope. Represents “a pokemon venerated as a protector” not “pokemon venerated as protectors”.
        I will not give up hope that there is more, can’t accept this! I’ve seen too much evidence to think this is all.

        • Ben Rhodes

          Then go for Second or third point, either it resembles what one originally looked like in development, or that it’s outside the regional Dex.
          Or that it’s what people in alola imagined it looked like who hadn’t seen it, as it seems only a rare few actually do see them. Meaning it, to those people, could resemble any one of them. Theres very simple explanations that just “Oh it looks like this so the real thing must”. Remember this game has been in development since at least B2/W2 were released.

          • Ithsme

            National dex I’d go for, but if it looked like that in development why is the item unchanged in SM? Also they don’t look one bit alike, so unless design phase did a 180 then I feel like this proof.
            These are sorta stretching it IMO.

          • Ben Rhodes

            These ideas aren’t stretching it at all, they’re giving viable examples. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes, designs changes a lot and I’d imagine the Guardians would have been hard to design. Theres not really much Viable evidence for the existence of more pokemon within the regional dex as they all can be explained.

            However if you want my opinion, I think it’s very Possible the Strange Souveneir ISN’T an Island Guardian. The Island Guardians seem to be based on Aumakua, Gods who manifest as Animals. My Point is, the Strange Souveneir isn’t based on one of those. It’s actually closer to the 4 Tiki Gods, Ku, Lono, Kane and Kanaloa. Granted the 4 Guardians may have basis in these too, however, theres bound to be at least 1 more Mythical, unless this is a really short Gen, so either if there is no more outside the regional Dex, theres bound to be one in the Mythical section, and it could very well be this. Perhaps in charge of the other 4.

            Any of these ideas could be possible tbh it’s about thinking of all the possibilities based on the facts we’ve been given.
            I have no doubt however, that we will be given a reason in S/M.

          • Ithsme

            Yeah, I can agree with this. I’m just using what I can to try and prove this isn’t all. It’s not like there’s no evidence, there’s plenty as far as I’m concerned.

          • Ben Rhodes

            I’ve probably read and commented before, but what other evidence did you have?

          • Ithsme

            I’m compiling a list rn, but it’s incomplete, I have 3 reasons I haven’t typed up yet. I can post what I have if you want?

          • Ben Rhodes

            Sure but, I’ll take some guesses based on what I’ve seen.
            1) No Fossils – Theres no Guaruntee, sure I think it’s odd but they don’t need to exist, I don’t buy the “Hawaii has no fossils” idea either, France doesnt have T-Rex
            2) Gamexplain said – It’s possible they saw Geodude, the Legend “Pre Evo”, Pikipek evo 1 and Persian. As well as a couple of overworld sprites of people keeping later Pokemon as pets, and might have seen some regular old ones we didn’t know of too.
            3) No Third Legend – Not needed, though I think it’s odd too after all this time, I’d have loved if I was right about it being Earth not Eclipse, though it could exist outside the regional dex.
            Those are the 3 common things I see, but if you’ve got some that aren’t easily rebuttled I’d love to hear them.
            There is a qoute however from when S/M were announced, that went along the lines of “We’re trying not to do the expected”

          • Ithsme

            I had 2 and 3, I’ll cut those out of what I post. 😛 (However, it’s unlikely that GX saw Persian/Pikipek2 in the first two hours).
            1. Ash-Greninja is nowhere to be found in the datamine, meaning it’s stored somewhere else. Before you say “these are pokedex stills, of course it isn’t there”, Mimikyu and Wishwashi’s form changes are in there, so it makes no logical sense to not include Greninja’s form change.
            2. The 6 (counting the two after Mimikyu as one because of form changes) missing models cannot be totems. Firstly, these are pokedex stills, and if totems are just pokemon with an orange aura with no real unique features, they would not have a pokedex still. Secondly, we know of 7 trial captains, and there are only 6 totems here (again counting the two after Mimikyu as one), so even in the highly unlikely event that they are totems, there are STILL missing models here.
            —-
            I know it doesn’t seem like much but I had to cut out a few (plus the strange souvenir thing which you’ve already seen.

          • Ben Rhodes

            1) Ash Greninja not been there semi makes sense, it’s not in the regional dex, it’s form change would be with it. However, it’s IN the Demo, so it’s odd that it wasn’t there, unless the Miner just though it wasn’t reasonable to show it, as it would need to be there somewhere, however it’s important to note The Dragon totem WAS in the demo and also didn’t show up.
            2)They are almost certainly Totem Models, as proven by the one after Raticate. It lays between Raticate and Spearow, who are right next to each other in the dex (The Zygarde one is for Cell and Core sadly though that would have been awesome). The reason theres only 6 (Counting Raticate and Gumshoos as one, and both Mimikyus as one), is because Wishiwashi doesn’t need to be a totem due to it’s School form. If you add Wishiwashi as a regular boss Pokemon, it makes 7, which corresponds to the known Trial Captains, AND their Types, been Normal, Electric, (Water),Grass, Fire, Ghost and seemingly Dragon.

            So I don’t think these are enough evidence for more pokemon. The only true evidence we have, which is also disputed for reasonable reasons, is the Strange Souveneir funnily.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      I agree they don’t look the same, but who knows how far the designs were developed back then? I feel it may just be an unused Pokémon design, where they decided later to take it in a different direction. I would like it if there’s more to it though.

  • SomeGuy

    Damn that was intense and awesome

  • Fairy

    Alrighty, since the comments have slowed and Earthen’s already done one, I guess it’s time for ‘Fairy spamming non Pokémon questions part 2: he’s only doing one or two this time’

    If you could live in any fictional world, what would it be?

    • FleurNyaa

      I would live in the world I fantasized about in which 200 people around the world got superpowers mine being flowers and pheromonal persuasion in which we would take the world back to the days of monarchy in which i would take dominion over Hawaii and turn it into a nation of only women and use it as a tourist destination for the world’s men and I would become the most powerful woman in history.

    • Ithsme

      I wish people still cared about me trying to prove the dex incomplete but maybe they’ve just taken me for a crazy person at this point. o~o
      ——–
      I know you said non pokemon, but definitely the pokemon world lol

    • EarthenWarrior

      fantasy realm with a mix of sci-fi
      it is uncommon for people to have magic or technology

      • Fairy

        Lemme guess

        Earth magic?

        • EarthenWarrior

          Naturally
          well here’s the thing
          i usually go for either full on fantasy or full on sci-fi never a mix
          but i figure why not have Special tech with elemental fuel
          i would have these mech-gauntlets with each finger with extendable drills which can slash and burrow
          a Mechanized viking helmet with curved drill horns
          and lastly a jet hammer

          • Fairy

            The magi-tech fueled by elemental fuel is giving me major RWBY feels, you ever watched it Earthen?

          • EarthenWarrior

            nope nor ever will

          • Fairy

            But Earthen

            It’s practically playboy for destructive weapons instead of women

          • EarthenWarrior

            i can’t handle any more anime infatuations
            i’m still trying to get over….Diane…….:_:

          • Fairy

            Diane?

          • EarthenWarrior

            From…..seven deadly sins……………..:_:………

          • Fairy

            I assume something bad happened to her

            But its fine, nothing majorly bad has happened in RWBY

            Nothing bad has happened

            Eeeeveeeer

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d82669a890355e81e7f41ad33b7be271f2507f626d60a52a6bc44d115b01d32.jpg

          • EarthenWarrior

            nothing bad happened
            it was a painful infatuation….

          • Pharap

            Have they made a second series of that already?

          • Pharap

            It’s been done quite a lot in various series tbh.

            Fairy Tail did it in the edolas arc, One Piece had a bit of it, Golden Sun did it, I think Nanoha also did it.

          • Pharap

            The new Zelda game does the scifi-magic mix quite well, and I think Dwemer buildings in Skyrim are also a good balance.

            You’d like the Dwemer, they built a massive underground labyrinth and all their houses were carved from stone or built into the sides of mountains.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Hells yeah i’m a Dwarf
            Grumpy, stubborn, likes fighting, treasure and being right
            associated with earth and fire and creating things

    • Pharap

      A world where technology is part-magic and part-machinery. Real world electronics interfacing with magically charged runes to channel magic in order to create and alter matter. And I’d have myself a nice little island separate from the rest of the world, with forests and caverns and an astral observatory, but also with a teleporter so I could travel into the outside world to visit places.

      And no twitter or facebook because I’m feeling mean.

    • Fairy

      I was mostly meaning established properties btw, but I am finding these completely original ideas fascinating

      • Pharap

        Should have specified that sooner.
        Tbh I prefer my own world.

        • FleurNyaa

          I feel like that person shoved in the corner now. x3

          • Pharap

            Why?

          • FleurNyaa

            My fantasies are a lot darker than people probably would have liked. At least I didn’t say Twilight or something.

          • Pharap

            Eh, it’s only half dark. Mainly controlling people’s willpower, and segregating people.

            Yeah, I think saying Twilight probably would have caused a massive love-hate war XD

          • FleurNyaa

            Persuasion isn’t control. It’s merely a form of suggestion.

          • Pharap

            Depends how much chance the other person has to prevent being ‘persuaded’.

          • EarthenWarrior

            willpower

          • FleurNyaa

            Most men wouldn’t resist.

          • Pharap

            I think I’ll stay secluded on my own little island, I like my free will.

          • FleurNyaa

            Well see the thing is pheromone production means I could produce both male and female ones. So I could just produce male ones to entice you.

          • Pharap

            Magic and technology at my fingertips, I’d build a pheromone filtering mask. Living like a monk can be fun too.

          • FleurNyaa

            At least I didn’t go with like Sailor Neptunes powers to the utmost extent. I would physically isolate every single country.

          • Pharap

            Even the landlocked ones?
            Why would you want to do that anyway though?

          • FleurNyaa

            Boredom mostly also think it would be fun.

          • Pharap

            That’s cruel.
            *locks self inside hut*

          • Fairy

            I’d like to see you try it on me, not convinced it’d work XD

          • Pharap

            You have a point, considering most of the other guys on this site are gay (at least I’m 80% convinced they are) I’m presuming all of them would be able to resist. Depends what’s stronger, pheromones or mental power.

          • Fairy

            Male Booty.
            Male Booty is stronger than pheromones

          • FleurNyaa
          • Pharap

            Bah, neither of you have anything stronger than the thirst for knowledge.
            (Or extreme laziness!!)

          • Fairy

            The thirst for Booty is the strongest force on the planet

          • Pharap

            Lies, there are stronger things…
            *detonates sun*

    • Probably Legend of Korra/Avatar

      As long as I get to be a water bender other wise no

      • FleurNyaa

        Waterbending is my favorite

      • Fairy

        I don’t need to be in the avatar universe to be a bender :p

        (UK slang before anyone asks)

        • Pharap

          I think the internet knows that one.
          I also think it’s a tiny bit derogatory but oh well.

          • Fairy

            Ehh its a scenario where either its self depreciating it’s okay but as casual slang without joking intent or against someone it’s just completely rude

          • Pharap

            I think people are just too sensitive when it comes to insults. Insulting words are petty, true insults are well crafted digs at a person’s personal insecurities.

          • FleurNyaa

            Or well planned jabs at how they weren’t loved as children, their deepest fears, or biggest insecurities.

          • Pharap

            Requires knowing those things first though. Either way, petty insults aren’t worth caring about.

          • FleurNyaa

            Words do hurt, not physically but can cause lengthy emotional damage

          • Pharap

            Depends who is saying it and how true it is.

      • Pharap
        • To be fair most people dont have that ability and it is probably outlawed

          • FleurNyaa

            I would still use it. x3

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            In the Korra show it was outlawed. It didn’t stop some people from using it, but it was definitely outlawed lol

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Air Bending is potentially the most destructive. You can literally removed the air from someone, possibly even control the Oxygen in their blood. You can create Vacuums around them or go full Tornado. That’s why Air-benders were Pacifists I believe.

          • Pharap

            I never said which element I prefered, I just wanted to point out there are dark sides to these things.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I know, I was just saying which I thought was more dangerous. Air Benders don’t even need to know exactly where a blood bender is to throw a Tornado their way. Of course blood benders can block others ability to bend permanently. Not sure how close they need to be to affect someone though.

    • Fairy

      Alright so I’ve decided to say mine

      It’d be RWBY, and I’d be an avian faunus version of myself revolvers that can produce blades consisting of whatever element of dust is in a specific chamber. It’d be flawed though, because my RWBY-self would be kinda arrogant and go for appeal over practicality.

    • Your Landlord

      Harry Pooter

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Of established properties, probably Harry Potter, as a Wizard of course.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    I liked this episode a lot.Once again the acting was pretty decent and the overall flow made it feel great and exciting to watch. I’m glad they did one episode each for both the teams. I wonder if they’ll do another Hoenn one or go straight to Sinnoh

  • Shady

    [email protected]:disqus r u there?

    • Pharap

      Oui

      • Shady

        Can do a favor for me?…..I know u have more experience in prehistoric animal than me……I feel this bubble spider could resemble some but my research had been failed…..so can u?

        • Pharap

          I still think it’s a Diving Bell Spider:

          • Shady

            Yeah I know I post his pic before but I wonder if it has any prehistorical father.

          • Pharap

            There’s a thing called a “Sea Spider”.
            It isn’t actually a spider, but there are prehistoric versions.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_spider
            See “Fossil Record”

          • Nintendalek42

            OMG a pycnogonid pokémon would be the absolute bomb!
            These don’t seem the ticket however, though we’d best see their full bodies before definitely calling it.

  • Fairy

    Alright my bros and brodettes, if we lived in a world where everyone was a Pokémon, what Pokémon would you and your family be? (Don’t have to mention specific family members, just if your parents were two different Pokémon species in this hypothetical scenario. Also, it this world it’s a fifty fifty chance of being the mother of father’s species, not ‘always the mother’ s species’)

    • FleurNyaa

      I would be a Lopunny, My daddy would be a Machamp with a goatee, my Mother would probablly be Froslass because she is an frigid transparent, my brother would be a Vigoroth, my sister would be a Kirlia but a sporty one.

      • Fairy

        You’d have to be the same species as one of of your parents, sorry if I didn’t make it clear enough ^^;

        • FleurNyaa

          My parents and I are very different. Thats relatively unfair due to the reality that people are all different. I share nothing in common with either of my parents looks or personality wise, the only thing that we are alike in is our bank accounts. In essence I am just going to then physically alter them to give them personalities. My daddy is a lopunny with the build of a machamp and a goatee, my mother is sporty, my sister is a buneary with her ears in a side ponytail, and my brother is a bulky lopunny with a male figure. Its a deformity which is an occurrence in real life breeding.

    • Pharap

      Making the species match one of the parents probably wouldn’t work in most cases, a lot of people are very different from their parents.

      • FleurNyaa

        Thank you!

      • Fairy

        Yeah but they’re still the same species as them IRL e-e

        • FleurNyaa

          But pokemon can interbreed which makes that argument invalid

          • Fairy

            Yeah but like I don’t see how a Medicham and a Machamp could result in a say, Riolu, Mienfoo and Timburr litter, it’d probably be Meditite and Machop 😡

          • FleurNyaa

            I dont want to be a fighting type or anything but a pretty pokemon but to say that my dad is a lopunny would be an insult to him

          • Fairy

            Then your mother could be a ‘pretty’ Pokémon and then your dad can be a ‘tough’ Pokémon 😡

          • FleurNyaa

            but my mom wouldnt be a lopunny

        • Pharap

          But then we’d all be the same species.

          • Fairy

            Totally what I meant

          • Pharap

            As in everybody would be the same species 😛

            It just doesn’t work if you try to apply it literally.

          • Fairy

            That’s not what I meant at all

            I was saying that it’s not possible to have a complete different species/breeds come from the pairing of two other completely different species/breeds

            For example, you’re not going to get a chihuahua from a poodle x pomeranian couple

          • Pharap

            The sudden realisation all the pokemon of each species look the same…

            Pokemon are weird.

          • Fairy

            No need to be condescending about it >_>

          • Pharap

            I meant me.

            Still though, the allegory doesn’t fit.

          • Fairy

            It doesn’t fit because I’m describing a completely fantastical scenario and it’s literally the closest thing to it despite being so loose

            And it does make sense. If you breed two different Pokémon, it’d only be logical that the offspring is the same Pokémon as one of the parents or at least a counterpart of sorts.

            Just as crossbreeding two dogs is only going to give you offspring with traits that come from the parents.

          • Pharap

            If we’re already half throwing logic out the window, can’t we just throw a bit more out so we can say what pokemon would actually fit family members instead of having to settle for second best just to fit the offspring rule?

    • I would probably be a Popplio? IDK about the rest of my family

    • Accalia_Luperca

      Given how my parents get along I’m going with Seviper and Zangoose. My mom’s Chinese sign is the snake so she can be Seviper. Not sure which one I would be.

  • Wooo I finished it! My Pokemon team for Sun and Moon! (Or just Moon I guess 😛 )

    http://65.media.tumblr.com/92d12683debd5fa5a34ae4af76619dcf/tumblr_off4cilZWN1rks5v8o1_1280.png

    • FleurNyaa

      Nevermind, sorry. also I am so jealous of you. I can’t do digital art. I can only do handrawn art. Which I drew my team about a month ago missing only alolan persian which now isnt going on the team. I could prolly find a way to show it though

    • WoahMama EastGovnah

      I wanna be drawn like one of those french girls with my team 🙂 i personally love the way u drew mimikyu

      • It took a bit to draw but I wouldn’t mind drawing other people and their teams! Mimikyu was definitely the easiest and most fun to draw

    • Pokemania88

      Nice! You are a really good artist. What program do you use? I tend to use Photoshop for Digital painting.

      • Thanks! I use Paint Tool Sai.

        • Pokemania88

          I figured 😀

    • Pharap
      • EarthenWarrior

        MACHOOOOO GRUBBA!!!!

        • Pharap

          PM:TTYD is an excellent game.
          Gamecube era was golden era.

          • EarthenWarrior

          • Review Reviewer

            Pharaoh, Nah, the era where TTYD fans were tortured was the most fun, I loved seeing them cry to death!

      • :0 wow yay!!!!!!!!

    • Tev-Da-Trainer

      That’s dope as fuck.

    • EarthenWarrior

      burn them all!!! and maybe extinguish the more retardant ones…….

      • Actually… yeah burn Mimikyu. I wanna see what is underneath it

        • EarthenWarrior

          you gotta do it from a distance
          otherwise you get the illness hex

          maybe film it from a safe distance you can’t be hexed through recordings…. i think

          • Wes

            Haven’t you seen The Ring? Of course you can be hexed through recording. You’re never safe.

          • EarthenWarrior

            that’s a load of crap

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Don’t you like Midnight Lycanroc?

    • Fairy

      Not gonna lie, love how your art style is apparent whilst also keeping the Pokémon obvious as Pokémon!

    • Shady

      So u didn’t draw Salandit evo just to avoid spoiler……but ur really add something new to siren personality.

      • I was planning on drawing it but had trouble getting it to look good. I also had a hard time trying to fit it into the frame and thought of the idea of Salandit crawling on the background.

        I love how Sirene turned out. Probably my favorite of the pokemon I drew here

    • Serenotic

      I love the “Star” in the middle. Cute design!

      • I’m changing this to my avi soon. I’m just waiting because I told myself I would stop changing it constantly 😛

        • Serenotic

          I already want to change mine, but I don’t want to post a spoiler image lol Well, I love it so thumbs up from me!

    • Pharap

      I intend to do one of these when I actually have a team, but I’m waiting until a bit more info is available.

      For example if Salandit ends up being another Combee I’m scrapping it, and I want to know the types of Wimpod’s evo.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        This is what I’m waiting on before I build my team properly.

        • Ithsme

          I’m waiting on the rest of the dex. 😉

          • Monkeyfuzz

            I don’t want to get my hopes up, every time I do I end up disappointed.

          • Ithsme

            I’m adamant about this; I firmly believe it’s going to happen.
            I’m the same way, I hate to get let down, but at this point I’m all in lol.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Well we’ll see, it could happen. At this stage I am having trouble building my team, not a Dark type outside of Alolan forms and maybe Litten3, I’m choosing Rowlet.

          • Ithsme

            We’ll see for sure.
            I doubt it’ll happen on the 27th, but I’m sure it’ll happen soon enough.
            If not I’m going to be EXTREMELY suprised, because it’d mean a series of unlikely coincidences.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            How so?

          • Ithsme

            I have an incomplete list of semi-convincing reasons (around 8 or 9) saved which I’ll post here eventually. For now I’ve just been listing off reasons as they come. I think I have a really good point below, just scroll down.

      • Make sure you post it here when you make it I’m excited to see it!

        • Pharap

          I’ll put it on my DA.
          Dunno if I’ll bother to line/colour it though, colouring takes forever to do with a mouse.

          • What art program do you use?

          • Pharap

            GIMP

          • You should use SAI. Way easier to use with a mouse because of the line art function. Coloring is also really quick

          • Pharap

            GIMP has a line art thing.
            You plot the path and then you can stroke it afterwards. Still takes ages.
            Colouring is mostly the same on all art programs 😛

          • I just love SAI. I also haven’t used GIMP so excuse my ignorance 😛

          • Pharap

            GIMP is both free software and free to download, so it’s worth a try sometime.

            Most stuff like layers, drawing, layer transparency and the different layer effects is pretty simply to figure out by trial and error, some of the more complex stuff needs a bit of learning but it’s pretty fully featured, and there are plugins available.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      You trying to get a shiny Mimikyu?

      • Not at first but I will breed for a shiny competitive one as soon as I get to the post game!

        • Monkeyfuzz

          Nice, I think I’ll try to breed Shiny Rowlet first. Then Lurantis. I won’t really be able to until transfer opens up though. I hope I get some randoms along the way 🙂

    • Picking my team is so hard, because I’m definitely choosing Rowlet, but there are SO many great Grass-types! I’m really tempted to switch to Popplio…intersingly, that would mark the first time I’ve ever chosen a water starter on the first playthrough.

      • Pharap

        Can’t argue there:

        http://i.imgur.com/UgBaeGl.png

        (Don’t choose a Water starter, I did it once – never again!)

        • Lucia Seriin

          What’s wrong with the shroom, though?

          • Review Reviewer

            Pharaoh must have been smelling mushrooms the wrong way if you know what i mean.

          • Pharap

            Its evolution is hideous.

          • Lucia Seriin

            Oh ok… I like it, if it isn’t Moon exclusive it’ll be on my team. :3

      • This gen really has some great pokemon! If switching to Popplio means Lurantis or Tsareena, then it is totally worth it! Plus you get the best starter!

    • Serenotic

      Midnight Lycanroc <3

  • Your Landlord

    All these deleted comments are pretty annoying tbh

    • Your Landlord

      It’s nice to look at discussion but it’s hard when half of it is deleted.

    • Pokemania88

      It’s not horrible but I’d like to at least look at the conversation.

    • ShinyXatu

      I wish there was something I could do about it. I believe the person deletes their own comments, it’s out of my control.

      • WoahMama EastGovnah

        too busy hyped on the Switch eh

        • Your Landlord

          You can’t approve someone’s comment when they deleted it themselves.

    • EarthenWarrior

      it’s Fleur she does it herself

      • Your Landlord

        why though

        • FleurNyaa

          I am sorry, I can’t help it. Its one of the things I feel compelled to do and if I don’t it drives me crazy. Not many people reply to me, and even when they do it seems I seem off putting, I think I just won’t post anymore, because I can’t even promise you half way that I will stop doing it. I do this kind of stuff with irl things too.

          • Ithsme

            Out of curiousity, why do you feel compelled to delete them? It’s not like they were offensive or anything.
            Also don’t leave! D:

          • FleurNyaa

            I deleted the conversations with Fairy because I came off as a sociopath, I deleted the ones with Earthen, because I don’t like limits being put on me. Also I was getting aggravated that in certain proposed scenarios everyone is meant to be black/white when the certain person who proposed that irl fits into the “grey” spectrum of socioeconomic reality. Which I don’t intend to come off as being a b word. It just is ironic and my competitive and stubborn personality will emerge and I will likely get in trouble.

          • Ithsme

            Those scenarios are fair enough, but why do you delete the comments of a completely calm and levelheaded conversation?

          • FleurNyaa

            That is where the insecurity comes in. If people make comments that would even slightly imply something bad about something I said I get upset. Like I think you think I am weird and odd and that thought wont ever go away. I only remember the worst of a persons comments about me when I think of them.

          • Ithsme

            I can’t really help you there. :/

          • FleurNyaa

            Like I have a picture I handrew of my pokemon moon team a month ago and I am afraid to post it because I know people are going to insult it,

          • Tev-Da-Trainer

            You shouldn’t care what people think.

          • Ithsme

            Especially internet people who you’ll never meet in real life (even if you do then you won’t know who each other is lol).

          • Tev-Da-Trainer

            Lol exactly!

          • FleurNyaa

            Well see I dont to an extent because I already can say I can make judgement on every one of you on this website if you were to hurt me in any way. My relationships run like lightswitches. You’re either on or you’re off, and if you’re off I feel no empathy for you.

          • Shady

            U see u have the best intention here.

          • Shady

            I said that to her before.

          • Pharap

            Not caring never works.

          • Tev-Da-Trainer

            Works for me honestly. If you care what others think you can’t express yourself, because you’re worried about what others think.

          • Pharap

            If I didn’t care what people thought though, I’d just run around insulting everyone and being an ass.

          • Pharap

            Not to mention I’d be even more alone than I already am.

          • Tev-Da-Trainer

            Nah man you dont have to be mean lol. But if you want to something and it doesn’t harm anyone, you should do it.

          • Pharap

            If I didn’t care what other people thought of me that’s what I’d do though.

          • You should care a bit, but dont let it be the be all end all.

          • Green

            What!?
            Here at Pokejungle, we respect people’s skills and opinions. If you had the interest to take time to hand draw your team, then you’re a great artist 😉
            Just know that you’ll always be welcome here.

          • Pharap

            Skills yes, not sure about opinions XD

          • Accalia_Luperca

            I’ve ever seen people insult artwork in the comments. It’s always very supportive. The most negative thing I see is critiquing or someone proclaiming their dislike of a Pokemon but not the art itself. I know anxiety can be rough and it’s hard but if you ever feel like sharing we’d love to see fan art. 🙂

          • Shady

            I wanna see them ……and I am brave enough to show mine although most of them have zero upvote.

          • Shady
          • FleurNyaa

            I think that was intended to make fun of me.

          • Shady

            No it’s intended to make u happy ……I am sorry I am kinda spooky.

          • Pokemania88

            If the fact that you have to delete comments makes you leave, don’t worry about it. I think we mostly all understand, and we are all mostly accepting of it 😀

          • Exeledus

            i wouldn’t sweat it, doesn’t bother most of us. kinda wish I knew you though, I cant find any comments by you! you might be a regular and I wouldn’t have known! 😀 who are you having for your sun/moon team, assuming you’ve seen leaks? if not, that’s ok too!

          • FleurNyaa
          • Oh my god I love it….

          • Exeledus

            oh thats really lovely and colorful! we have the same starter and are both using ninetails!

          • Ithsme

            The petals/bubbles are a nice touch!

          • Pharap

            Anything with Espeon is an automatic upvote.

          • FleurNyaa

            Tsareena might replace Lilligant once competitive comes around. I have a male team as well not drawn for sun and I have my fiance’s childhood team drawn as well if you want to see that.

          • I wanna see it!

          • FleurNyaa
          • Pretty good team! Ahh this reminds me I gotta use Lapras eventually

          • FleurNyaa

            He wouldn’t give me any creative freedom. I wanted to add all kinds of frills to it.

          • His mistake 😛

          • Green

            It looks great! I love the Lilligant

          • Tev-Da-Trainer

            Dope as fuck

          • FleurNyaa

            Thats what I meant by a princess team a few days ago

  • Pharap
    • Pharap

      I get the feeling nobody knows who Ray Charles is or why this is funny ; n ;

      • Ithsme

        pretty much

        • Pharap

          You younguns got no sense of history
          ; n ;

          Ray Charles was a famous jazz and blues singer (and other genres). He was blind since the age of 7, hence driving a bus is generally something he shouldn’t be doing XD

          • Tev-Da-Trainer

            You into Jazz and Blues?

          • Ithsme

            I knew who he was but I didn’t get the joke, I didn’t know he was blind.

      • Wes

        I understood it, I just couldn’t think of an adequate response. :/

        • Accalia_Luperca

          Same

        • Pharap

          FTR, that’s not photoshopped, he actually did that for a gag in a film.
          i.e. he wouldn’t take offence at the joke 😛

        • Pharap

  • Monkeyfuzz
    • Green

      Like because of the short one

      • Monkeyfuzz

        He-man XD The one at the back is Nicolas Cage, not sure on the other, I think it’s the aliens won’t talk to us meme guy.

        • Pharap

          There’s an add on for Firefox (and I think Chrome) called N-Cage that replaces all images with images of Nicholas Cage.

          Don’t ever let me hear you saying web devs/programmers don’t have too much time on their hands XD

          • Accalia_Luperca

            The internet is magical place

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Let me know when they invent that for real life, I’ma need to stock up on weapons.

  • Green

    FleurNyaa, Pokejungle is a very welcoming place. Yeah, okay, I understand where you’re coming from, there are lots of places on the internet that can get messy and judgemental, but I’ve been on Pokejungle for 5 years now and it’s become like a home for me on the internet. We’re always happy to have new members and they soon become part of this big family we have. Now here’s a formal welcome: Hey, I’m Green, Welcome to Pokejungle. I hope, and know, you’ll have a great time here.

    • Ithsme

      woah woah woah. 5 years!?!? I though it was more like 1-2 years ago because you’re so young lol.

      • Green

        I joined February 2011. Well, as a guest, but then my brother and I made a joined account, then we split into two accounts and then he left and I’m still here

      • Wes

        I’ve been in the Jungle at least 6 years, I believe.

        • Dang how long have I been here? When was Mega Mewtwo revealed? I don’t think I made an account and started commenting when ORAS was revealed

          • Ithsme

            I operated as a guest for a few months until I made an account somewhere in the spring before XY (around the time helioptile was revealed I think).

          • Wes

            I can’t recall exactly when I joined, but I’ve been here since before Black and White were even released in Japan.

  • Ithsme

    @Pharap I have a completely random question for you: I’ve seen you say before that you think there is more new pokemon than what we’ve seen in the leaks, yet everytime I present some evidence you seem to try to debunk it/counter it with something else. If you don’t think what I’m saying is a hint towards the dex being incomplete, then what compels you to think it’s incomplete?
    I hope that didn’t get too hard to understand there at the end lol.

    • Pharap

      I’m open to both possibilities, but I’m only going to pick a side if the evidence is compelling enough. I will happily refute arguments for either side until something tips the balance.

      The main reasons I’m not discounting the possibility are the circumstances under which the leaks ocurred:
      A) The stats and types were reported as being missing.
      B) Stills of the pokedex were posted instead of full models and textures.
      C) What we’ve been given still seems somewhat lacking.
      D) The size of the final game compared to the size of the demo and what sort of information the demo encompasses.

      But my faith in GF is thin and I think it’s also still plausible that this is all we’ve got and as I once said before, the detail of the region probably still takes up most of the space of the final game.

      • Exeledus

        can’t argue that, that was a pretty well explained thought.

        • Ithsme

          Oh so people accept evidence he posts but continue to refute mine? xD

          • Exeledus

            the thing is, it doesn’t seem he disagrees with you. I think its more of a wait and see sort of thing, but he sees it going either way at this point.

          • Ithsme

            I know I’m just messing around lol.

          • Prince Fae

            I love when you post your evidence its very good evidence

          • Ithsme

            Thanks! 😀

          • Pharap

            Technically none of what I said is evidence for either being true, it’s just pointing out unexplained/unusual things that cast doubt on each side

          • Ithsme

            I don’t want doubt, I want facts. xD

          • Pharap

            Talk one of the hackers into handing over the code and their research 😛

      • Ithsme

        A) Wouldn’t stats/types be in a different area than stills though? Unless you mean why did they scrub those but not the stills?
        B) Don’t get this one.

      • Wes

        Do you mind explaining B? I don’t quite understand what that means, so I can’t make the connection.

        • Pharap

          Why would nintendo leave Pokedex stills of the Pokemon in and not the whole model with textures?

          When you select a Pokedex entry the Pokedex goes into full model view so leaving the textures and models would would break the Pokedex. Leaving them out suggests they actually stripped the Pokedex feature out entirely, which should mean they’d also strip out the Pokedex stills, but for some reason they’re still there.

          It just doesn’t fit that they’d strip the models and textures out but leave the stills there, they’d at the very least be aware they’d done that. Not to mention some were intentionally blank for some reason. Seems obscure.

          So it’s either:
          A) they genuinely had to leave them in for another reason
          B) they didn’t think someone would manage to break into the data or
          C) they were left there intentionally

          A could support either, B supports the ‘this is all’ theory, C supports the ‘there may be more’ theory

          • Wes

            Ah, I believe I understand now. Thanks for explaining!
            That’s a pretty solid observation, and it makes me wonder why they would do that. Did they think we simply wouldn’t notice, or are they messing with us?

          • Pharap

            Anytime.

            I think people have noticed, but mostly just the people well acquainted with techy stuff, and few have thought to question it.

            If they thought nobody would notice, they were almost right.

            Like I said though, there are things that could explain it, but only those with the cracked code in their hands would be capable of confirming those things.

          • Ithsme

            You lost me there. ._.

          • Pharap

            Probably because I wrote that in a different order to how everyone else is now going to read it XD

            ‘they’ in the second bit is Game Freak/the programmers.

            The last paragraph is referring to how having the code would make it easier to identifiy if the Pokedex stills were actually needed in the game or if they might have been intentionally or ‘accidentally’ left in.

          • Ithsme

            But what confuses me is, in the third line “if they thought nobody would notice” notice what? Sorry, I’m sorta out of it right now.

          • Pharap

            Wes said
            “and it makes me wonder why they would do that. Did they think we simply wouldn’t notice, or are they messing with us?”

            i.e. Gamefreak thought we wouldn’t notice the missing models/textures if Pokedex stills were available

          • Ithsme

            I’d be fun if they were left there intentionally to mess with us.

          • Pharap

            I wouldn’t put it past them, but again, without more evidence, it’s anyone’s guess.

          • Ithsme

            I’m having fun feebly trying to poke holes in this, even though nothing I say will actually confirm anything lol.

          • Pharap

            Good luck, I pick reasoning very carefully 😛

          • Ithsme

            I like to think I have some very solid evidence but that’s not the consensus it seems. xD

          • Pharap

            Most of the stuff you’ve shown has another equally possible explanation or is somehow refutable, which means it’s still anyone’s game.

          • Ithsme

            Yeah, some of my older points were pretty bad, but I’ve got some good stuff in there.

          • Pharap

            Good, but not completely irrefutable.
            Maybe just make one big list/article and keep adding to it or something 😛

  • Shady

    Wat if the bubble spider is not spider at all. http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/bacteria_spider_microscope.jpg

    • Wes

      Haha, I’ve been referring to it as ‘virus spider’ since the day it was leaked. :p

      • Shady

        Yeah I have the same idea when I saw it at the first time…..but I am lazy dark type.

    • Ithsme

      I’d much prefer that, it’s much cooler than a spider.

    • Green

      I thought it was a sea walnut

    • Seriously though this thing is so crazy awesome and scary looking

      • Shady

        I just want to know wat it’s type I start with Bug-Psychic,Bug-Dark, but ppl come up with water type and that kinda convincing but I thought these bubbles r related to Alien+O2 jnjtgkjtk thing.

        • Wes

          I want to say Poison/Water. Viruses can carry disease, which leads me to Poison, but you can’t ignore the bubbles in the design, so that’s likely Water.

          • Shady

            For some reason I didn’t see these bubbles r resembling water but I can come up with poison rock.

    • Pharap

      No bubbles though.

      • Shady

        It’s a still a theory that mean it could wrong but they don’t have too to copy every detail.

        • Pharap

          They don’t have to copy every detail, but the Diving Bell Spider theory fits better.

    • Nintendalek42

      Literally what I have been saying since the reveal :p . The first thing I said when I saw these things was “OMG Virus pokémon YAAASSSS”!!
      There are definitely diving-bell spider elements to the line too though.

  • Exeledus

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/39e485b11337709e2be8939492aa59c84b42d5721008fee5453520ce8be78fe7.jpg I never upload my artwork but I do sketch pokemon sometimes. it may be hard to see because I had to take a photo of it with my phone, then transfer it on here. I have more if anyone is interested.

    • Pretty good pencil work!

      • Exeledus

        thanks! I may show another at some point. these are all random requests (pick a number between 1 and 721) from my co-workers.

    • FleurNyaa

      I mainly draw cats and princesses

      • Exeledus

        I pretty much have to draw by sight. I have zero artistic talent on my own, all of my artwork was done by looking and copying something. however, I did sketch a vivillon from one of the cards in my collection, then gave it the monsoon pattern, but that’s about the extent of it. I like your art fleur, its incredibly colorful and lovely to look at!

        • FleurNyaa

          I only recently got back into it anyways

        • No shame in using references. I don’t think most artists on the internet could make half the art with out some sort of reference

      • Shady

        Where? I wanna see?

        • FleurNyaa
          • Shady

            Even my monstrous dark heart like that.

          • FleurNyaa

            I quit drawing for a few years to pursue other things so my skill is still at what it was when I was 14-16

          • Shady

            Drwaing skills is not the big important thing ….the important thing how u represent ur feeling and ur good at that.

          • FleurNyaa

            I like period dramas and when I drew this I was still fresh off a reign binge.

          • Shady

            I like old period in general ……ur good at interior though did u draw these from ur mind or copy them?

          • FleurNyaa

            I drew her from just a thought i had, i made up the stain glass pattern, and the little table in the back has an eeifel tower figurine on it and I drew that from what I could remember about how it looked

          • Shady

            This is good not any artist can manifest wat they imagine.

          • Shady

            I will leave this post here cuz u deleting ur own upove… Buying 3ds is very big issue to me while I used to use emulator.

    • Tev-Da-Trainer

      Damn I’m jealous of you guys! A lot of talent artists on here, I wish I could draw.

      • But you can with the power of practice

      • Shady

        Passion is the key.

      • Wes

        It doesn’t matter if others think you’re good. If you enjoy making it, then that’s all that matters. My art is decent, but not great by any standard, yet I love doing it, so I keep drawing and learning.

    • Wes

      That’s pretty good! It’s very similar to what I’ve been doing these past few months: pencil-sketching every Alola Pokemon.

  • Play the demo today! Lillie is here!

    • Prince Fae

      I freaked out tbh

    • Monkeyfuzz

      Where?

    • EarthenWarrior

      are you bamboozling

      • um, what

        • EarthenWarrior

          Hoodwinking, Duping, Shmeckledorfed!

    • Ithsme

      For an extremely boring two seconds lol

    • Pharap

      Is ‘today’ the 21st or the 22nd?

      • Ithsme

        Today as in the number of days you’ve played the demo, you should be fine.

      • 21st. If you are changing the date it will mess up the cloth though

        • Ithsme

          No, it’s the number of days since you’ve played the demo, not a literal date.

        • Pharap

          Well, your “play the demo today” message came 30 minutes too late. It’s currently 1am where I am 😀

    • Wes

      Oh my gosh, finally! Now I just need to figure out how to trigger the Dugtrio event, and I’d like to figure out what’s up with the Mysterious Old Man.

      • Monkeyfuzz

        He’s a bit ‘over friendly’ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) if you keep going back

        • Wes

          Yeah, I’ve reached the point where he doesn’t say anything new anymore. To say he creeps me out is a huge understatement.

          • Prince Fae

            how long have you had the demo? his dialogue is always slightly different to me, it makes me think its leading up to something by talking to him every single day

          • Wes

            His dialogue isn’t linked to days. He had roughly five different things to say, and you can unlock them all in one day. Just leave the area and return until he starts repeating himself.

          • Prince Fae

            really I thought he disappeared after you visited him until the next day… hmm

          • Wes

            He walks off, but he’s there again when you reenter the area.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            He doesn’t even hide and jump out at you anymore. I did laugh when his head shined, but otherwise he has serious pedo vibes.

    • Your Landlord

      I found Lillie on the first night

  • Prince Fae

    If you haven’t seen this you should! Its so great

    • somebody put TEARS IN MY EYES

    • FleurNyaa

      Reminds me that my brother deleted all my files on my copies of red,blue,yellow, leaf green, and fire red.

      • Prince Fae

        D: thats awful

        • FleurNyaa

          I never played gold but I bought it used and it had every legendary and pokedex completed and i thought it was like a national treasure. I missed the first half of the mythical distrubutions, so im missing celebi, arceus, shaymin, and mew. xC

      • EarthenWarrior

        I WILL MURDER HIM AND HIS KIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        SUCH AN IRREPRESSIBLE ACT DESERVES NO STRICTER PUNISHMENT

        • TheReece25

          what was said?

          • FleurNyaa

            My old game files got deleted by my little brother because he is jealous of me. He also lost his ss and blamed me even though I knew his friend took it.

    • Exeledus

      I love this so much.

    • SomeGuy

      Damn that’s good

  • No backwards compatibility on the Switch
    “They also confirmed that it will not be able to read 3DS game carts either. A form of digital backwards compatibility might still be possible, but if you want to play your physical Wii U and 3DS games, then you need to hang on to those consoles.”

    http://nintendoeverything.com/nintendo-confirms-no-physical-backwards-compatibility-for-switch-no-comment-on-mobile-games/

    • Pharap

      Unsurprised. The hardware spec was a bit of a giveaway.

    • Ithsme

      -_- Are you kidding me?! The whole reason I bought phyisal was I figued that there wouldn’t be backwards compatibilty with digital copies. Whoops.

      • EarthenWarrior

        you dummy

    • Shady

      Dam that mean I should buy the 3ds waiting nx was a waste of time.

      • FleurNyaa

        I am going to be buying a new 3ds then so i can trade myself Pokemon

        Edit: I don’t think I have to buy this system then until they have a Pokemon game out. Which means in January I can buy another cyberpower gaming desktop.

    • EarthenWarrior

      knew it

    • Prince Fae

      Not even mad. Im a collector so I still own a working gamecube, N64 and such for the nintendo consoles and the wii U will stay in my library as well.

      • FleurNyaa

        I own four ds’s a game cube, a ps4, ps3, ps2, psp, gameboy colour, xbox, wii, and I have a 64 somewhere.

        • Prince Fae

          My gameboys no longer have sound but they still work ok, I also have a PS3 and PS4, no xbox’s will be entering my house though

          • FleurNyaa

            I got it for a godzilla game when I was little.

    • TheReece25

      This only makes me worry they will take their time putting Main Series Pokemon games on it.. . .it shouldn’t i mean.. we already can’t transfer backwards.. but still. . hmm

  • FleurNyaa

    Do you guys think a Samurott would make a good male counterpart to Fantasea the Popplio3?

    • Exeledus

      Fantasea is brilliant! I’ve been calling it Sirenade, Siren+Serenade.

      • FleurNyaa

        Its a Mariah Carey reference too.

      • Wes

        I’ve been calling it Marmeid. (Mar + Mermaid)

  • Monkeyfuzz
    • Shady

      One Punch Man?

      • Monkeyfuzz

        I don’t know if it’s a reference, I just found it and thought it looked cool.

  • Ben Rhodes

    If you spin in a circle The PC becomes a Ballerina

    • Exeledus

      I figured this out on my own, you cant be holding the run button or it wont work. also, if you try to walk and repeatedly tap the run button, they will trip over themselves.

      • Wes

        They’ve also changed it so that when you run into something you hit it once and stop. In the past you just kept running into it. :p

    • TheReece25

      yay! knew it would be phy or sp based on atk!

    • FleurNyaa

      Is that an I-paperweight!

    • Pharap

      • Shady

        That’s strong criticism for usa government.

  • Exeledus

    someone with the demo want to check something for me?

    • zess

      Sure

    • What upo

      • Exeledus

        I need someone to check with the npc that sprained her ankle, and see how many days until her savior returns.

        • zess

          For me it’s 2 days

          • Exeledus

            do you have the Japanese version?

          • zess

            Nope American

        • Pharap

          5 days from the first day you play.
          For me she’ll unlock on Sunday because I downloaded on Tuesday.

          • Exeledus

            see, that’s what I thought. but for some reason, even though I downloaded it Tuesday, she’s been saying 4 days both yesterday and today.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            You go on the same time both days? Maybe the date hasn’t rolled over for some reason. Did you change any settings?

          • Exeledus

            no the only thing ive done with my 3ds in awhile is turn on the demo.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Other than checking again tomorrow idk what to suggest. Mine has counted down just fine.

          • Exeledus

            I will check when the date rolls over tonight. I will let you all know. its odd, I mean, if it goes 3 days late for some reason it will still be completed before the full games come out but its just kinda inconvenient.

          • Pharap

            Might be to do with the time you started the demo, or because you haven’t been checking in everyday.

            I dunno about everyone else but I check in every day to check the days are rolling over.

          • Exeledus

            its weird, I got my feathers from the guy outside the pokemon center. I have been checking her every day, too. and the police officer, and the lady with boat phobia, and birthdaychu, and just incase, the coffee shop employee.

          • Pharap

            You got your feathers on Wednesday?

          • Exeledus

            yes.

          • Pharap

            And the others have been counting down?

          • Exeledus

            nope. no one has. I just looked.

          • Pharap

            Leave it for a few days and if it doesn’t change, I’m thinking either it’s a bug in the software, something happened to the clock to change the date/time (which upsets normal date processing for a day or two) or something related to the internal clock. If you’ve got any other games that do time-based events (like Pokemon Shuffle or the Badge Academy) check those are working. If they are working too, it’s more likely to be a bug in the demo, in which case you will probably want to report it to Nintendo somehow or redownload the Demo.

        • Wes

          I’m totally calling it: her savior is a Machamp. It’s strong, and come on, those things are everywhere. I recall at least four.

          • Exeledus

            I’m thinking its a mysterious old man. don’t follow him.

          • zess

            I know he’s a creep…

          • Pharap

            I think it’s UB02A, just to upset us all.

    • zess

      Have it on right now

  • TheReece25

    are all ash greninja hardy?

    • Wes

      Mine is.

    • Pharap

      *has just exited demo*
      Now you ask 😛

    • zess

      Hardy and alert to sounds

    • EarthenWarrior

      yep and male, so that means you can’t breed them for Battle Bond

      • TheReece25

        Gonna hack the hell out of it!

      • Monkeyfuzz

        Ditto and Males can pass abilities.

        • TheReece25

          Ohhhhhhhhh.. YAY! =]

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Might still be unable to for whatever reason though.

          • Pharap

            There’s probably an explicitly coded exception.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Seems likely, we won’t find out until Ditto is available I guess, or someone hacks it in.

          • FleurNyaa

            Meanwhile Priscilla has tried for over a month to get ditto in ORAS and instead it chooses to give me the three variations of the same spot three days in a row.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Can you trade for one? Try the GTS, there’s usually a bunch on there.

          • FleurNyaa

            idk what that is

          • Monkeyfuzz
          • FleurNyaa

            That requires giving away pokemon, are you insane.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Don’t you trade at all?

          • FleurNyaa

            Um i traded with myself back when heart gold came out. I wanted all the starters bred in both diamond and hg

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Don’t you like sending any Pokémon you caught away or something?

          • FleurNyaa

            Well generally speaking I only just learnt how to egg move breed. I have never iv trained or ev trained i tried once in x for a vaporeon with hordes it still got ev in something else than defense and it kept giving me the wrong hordes. Its too hard for me to do.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Do you know about the EV reducing berries? And about Maximum EV’s you can have in a stat? If you want I can catch you a Ditto.

          • FleurNyaa

            I use blue berries to raise my feebas farm into milotics?

          • Monkeyfuzz

            If you feed a Pokémon an EV reducing berry like a Kelpsy berry you lower that EV by 10, unless it has less than that in which case they are removed completely. Here’s a wiki for all the berries: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Berry#List_of_Berries

          • FleurNyaa

            I am confused.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            By which part?

          • FleurNyaa

            What does an ev do again? and what is an iv?

          • Monkeyfuzz
          • FleurNyaa

            So i just want to increase those all?

          • Monkeyfuzz

            It depends on what stat you need to be increased. You can have a Maximum of 510 EV’s on a single Pokémon. In generation 6 onwards stats can have a maximum of 252 EV’s before they can’t go up any more. You really should read those pages I linked, everything you need to know should be there 🙂

          • Pharap

            IVs are like DNA, every Pokemon has 1 IV per stat, and each IV ranges from 0 to 31 (31 is considered ‘perfect’). IVs can be inherited by breeding (by default 3 random IVs from either parent are passed down, but if one parent is holding a Destiny Knot, it’s 5 random IVs).

            EVs are stat boosts on top of IVs, which can be trained by battling Pokemon, doing Super Training and using certain items. Every 4 EV points gives a Pokemon a boost in a particular stat. They’re a bit more complicated to train because there’s lots of different items, but they’re not set in stone like IVs are, you can always raise or lower them.

        • Ben Rhodes

          I wonder however, if it will be in the Undiscovered egg group due to it’s uniqueness.

          • TheReece25

            what if it only breeds it’s normal abilities instead.. trollfreak ;P

          • Monkeyfuzz

            Possibly treated like a Legendary (Except Manaphy) yeah.

          • Ben Rhodes

            I was more thinking because Cosplay Pikachu couldn’t be bred but yes

          • Monkeyfuzz

            That too, forgot about that tbh.

        • Shady

          I don’t need my pkmn has a bond with ash.

          • Monkeyfuzz

            You not going to transfer yours from the Demo then?

  • Wes

    Has anyone timed the gate shortcuts? Is it quicker to follow the main road or to use the gates west of the maladada shop?

    • Pharap

      Gates, especially if you’re on tauros and avoid the grass.

      Not that I’ve actually timed it.

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    Rip Shelby, the only one with common sense on that short

    • TheReece25

      ik.. we need more characters like her who change their mind and help u

      • Prince Fae

        and their skin tone and hair colour …. (its a joke don’t come for me :P)

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    Shelly: Yo, if you use the orb on kyogre, we going to die
    Archie:
    https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m91am7LVBc1rot7deo3_250.gif

  • Exeledus
  • Green

    So if Ash’s Pika is an event Pokémon, I hope the hats are random. That increases the surprise.

  • Wes

    I actually measured the time it took to use the gates west of the maladada shop versus taking the main road around. Conclusion: when riding Tauros, it is approx. 1 second faster to simply go all the way around, but when you’re running, it’s approx. 1.5 seconds faster to use the gates.

    • Monkeyfuzz

      You timed it? Why? I hope Tauros ride is better than Bike for egg hatching.

      • Wes

        I’d wondered because the gates seemed take longer, and if the gates weren’t a shortcut, then what was their purpose other than aesthetics? Timing it was just my way of partially answering my own questions.
        I hope that we can ride Rapidash and that it will be used primarily for egg hatching with it being constantly aflame and all.

  • Pharap
    • FleurNyaa

      Is that a blowdryer?

      • Pharap

        ; n ;

        I’m not sure what I’m more upset by, the fact you haven’t heard of Portal or the fact GLaDOS has just been compared to a hairdryer…

    • I hope they bring both Portal games to the Switch.

      Let’s just put every game on the Switch

    • EarthenWarrior
  • @ithsme:disqus you here?

    • Ithsme

      Yeah?

      • What’s the situation with the league?

        • Ithsme

          Oh, did something happen on the forums? I’ll go check there.

          • No I just dont know what’s going on with it

          • Ithsme

            Oh, we’re doing a tournament for type choice order. Hold on a sec.

          • Ithsme

            http://challonge.com/PJLTCT
            You play the first match, and then the loser of the opposite match if you lose, and do the same if you lose a third time. (So everyone gets three matches, hope that made sense).

          • Oh okay! I’ll start doing battles tomorrow

          • Ithsme

            Great! ^.^

  • Wes

    So what Pokemon do you want to ride/think we’ll be able to ride, and what will be their functions? I’ve theorized a bit on the land-based Pokemon and come up with,
    (Confirmed) Mudsdale – traversing rough terrain
    Tauros – Acro Bike equivalent, faster than running, but still pretty slow
    Zebstrika – Mach Bike equivalent, faster, yet harder to control
    Rapidash – relatively fast, primarily used for hatching eggs more quickly due to the warmth

    • Pharap

      What we know for definate:
      Lapras – Water
      Sharpedo – Water and Block Breaking
      Stoutland – Land
      Mudsdale – Land and Rough Terrain
      Tauros – Land and Block Breaking
      Charizard – Sky

    • Pharap

      Speculation:

      Mamoswine – Snow
      Wailord – Underwater

      • Wes

        Don’t get me started on how much it bothered me that Mamoswine was so tiny in XY. If it’s not proportional, don’t even bother.

        • libra

          So far, Pokemon in S/M seem to hold their proportions well. If they reused Mamoswine, I expect it to be somewhat large.

        • Pharap

          It’s the same height as Lapras btw (8’02”).

          Charizard is 5’07”
          Sharpedo is 5’11”
          Tauros is 4’07”
          Stoutland is 3’11”

      • Pharap

        Might change Wailord to Wailmer, might be more realistic.

      • Ultron

        So you think Dive will return? I’ll be a bit bummed if it doesn’t. It was really nice in ORAS

        • Pharap

          I don’t think it will play a massive role, but it would serve to lock off some areas or items. Plus a sunken ship would be pretty cool since it would be something that wouldn’t show up on the map art.

    • Ithsme

      Joltik

      • Pharap

        Joltik…. 0’04” tall…

        I think you mean Galvantula? XP

        • Ithsme

          No, that was the joke. xD

          • Pharap

            Damn, Galvantula would have been cool (if it weren’t so small)

    • Ultron

      I remember I made a list a long time ago when it was confirmed. Can’t say I remember too much of what was on it…A lot of it is blown to shit now that soar won’t be returning, which is bullshit.

    • NesMeister

      We fly on Cutiefly

    • Prince Fae

      I would like to ride a bouffalant but I know we won’t be able to

      • Pharap

        Yeah, Boufalant is just as good as Tauros.

  • libra

    Would you guys prefer an enhanced HD port of S/M to the Nintendo Switch or a remake of D/P? Also, I’m surprised that nobody is talking about how amazing Breath of the Wild looks on the Switch compared to the Wii U! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/da488956754aee094fa48ef5c8435c994212eac078f99c74d61b84b200324592.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6fadf8cc9753923d2e5af487ab3531e337e2f677cfc985a7f15a02dd88e81b05.png

    • Wes

      I’m not ready to move systems yet. I need a sufficient source of income before I’m ready for that, so I’d rather have remakes on the 3DS.

      • libra

        I understand where your coming from. I’m going to keep my New 3DS XL and buy a Switch. I just wanted to see how people felt about it. I want the next Pokemon Games to be on the Switch though. It would seriously push units (after Monster Hunter 5).

        • Pharap

          If Breath of the Wild hadn’t been destined for WiiU that would have been enough to push units on its own 😛

    • Pharap

      Breath of the Wild is the main reason I’m getting a Switch.

      I would rather have a Colusseum/XD styled game because we haven’t had one since just before Gen 4.

      • libra

        Interesting. I’m not a huge fan of Shadow Pokemon, but having that feature with some tweaks would be better. I think the concept should be revisited by another dev while GameFreak works on the next game.

        • Pharap

          I don’t necissarily mean bringing back Shadow Pokemon, but certainly a sort of side story game with all the same mechanics but catching. Colusseum and XD always felt more story driven to me, even more than later games. Or at least more immersive.

          What I liked most was Team Cipher because their admins all had very unique clothing, teams and personalities. They felt like real people/trainers instead of the usual tactic of wearing a variation of a team uniform and a variation of the villanous team’s signature pokemon.

          Plus it was interesting in Colusseum how the main character was a former member of a villanous gang, and in XD how you started with an Evevee and picked what it evolved into – effectively having 5 possible starters instead of just 3.

          • Vlad

            I loved those games so munched, I’m sad I never finished them for whatever reason 🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • It is Breath(of the wild) taking

    • Ithsme

      Remake by far. If there was a port they would withhold features from the 3DS version.

    • To answer the question, I want remakes of DP

    • Ithsme

      Also I’m not expecting Pokemon to switch to the switch until 2018 TBH.

      • libra

        Same. I think we are going to hear about a new game in 2017, but it will be officially revealed in 2018. I hope Nintendo fills that void with first and third-party games!

        • Ithsme

          I’m expecting a game next hear on the 3ds still, whatever that may be.

    • Prince Fae

      if you watch game explains analysis of the mario game that was shown in the commercial for the switch you can see that the sky and everything are all like crazy detailed and like things almost look photo realistic its insane, the graphics on this thing are so good

      • Exeledus

        I’m hyped. the Nintendo switch looks great. in my honest opinion, the best thing about it is how Unextraordinary it is. 3rd party developers wont have to develop with the consoles gimmick in mind, the console will do the “take wherever” aspect on its own.

        • Prince Fae

          honestly that sounds like a shot on the system as well as a praise 😛 but yes you’re correct, I’m pumped for skyrim, I was going to get it for my PS4 but now I’m waiting

          • Exeledus

            same. people are throwing a fit because bethesda said “we cant confirm anything at this time” but its not anything to worry about, however, the bad pr its making still isn’t good for the switch. I wish people would calm the f*ck down and wait for more details instead of raging.

          • Prince Fae

            wait why would that matter? We saw it straight up on the system so its probably a launch title, they are probably just keeping things hush because they don’t want to impact the sales of the ones coming out on the PS4 and Xbox one soon. But people are dumb so they probably don’t get that

          • Exeledus

            that’s what I said, too! nobody realizes this, its nice to see someone else look at it logically!

          • Prince Fae

            Yeah well I mean, if they confirmed anything then the other companies would probs see this as a way of deflecting sales from them too and be pissed so bethesda is basically walking a thin line with the companies. But like Switch hype!!! lol

  • Ithsme

    So I just got Volcanion, and I’m kinda confused. I thought there would be a special event in Juane plaza in Lumiose, where there are two people taking about a “lava dome Pokemon” and “mimicking Pokemon cries”. It seemed odd so I thought if I brought Volcanion something would happen, but nothing did. Do I need to do something to trigger the event?

    • Wes

      Talk to one of the people in the Press building. I don’t know about those in Jaune.

      • Ithsme

        I’ll try that!

    • Pharap

      Nope, there isn’t one.
      Volcanion recieved, nothing more.

      Welcome to GF’s modern attempt at Pokemon events
      ; n ;

      • Ithsme

        I miss the days where rather than a delivery lady handing you A POKEMON WHOSE POWER IS SPOKEN OF IN LEGEND, they gave you an item to initiate a quest, those were fun. Hopefully they do those in SM.

        • Pharap

          Yeah.

          I’ll never forget Birth Island!
          ; n ;

          • Ithsme

            The lady in the press has been looking for Volcanion for 15 years, and the delivery lady just handed it to some 10 year old kid.

          • Pharap

            Yup. Should have at least had something like:

            – Delivery lady hands package from a professor
            – Package contains special artefact
            – Lady in press office tells you of a location said to be linked to the artefact
            – Take artefact to location
            – Summon Volcanion
            – Battle it
            – Capture it

          • Ultron

            I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY VOLCANION COULDN’T HAVE BEEN LOCATED IN ONE OF THE OTHER POWER PLANTS

          • Pharap

            Steam plant FTW

            Rescue it from Team Flare who have chained it down and forced it to provide power

          • Ultron

            Exactly. So simple. Maybe even have Malva in there cause it’s a fire type. Boom.

          • Pharap

            Malva being cruel to a legendary would be a bit awkward. I always took her to be a sleeping partner (if you’ll pardon the pun).

          • Ultron

            Well she doesn’t necessarily have to play a cruel role. Maybe she could tell you what team Flare is planning so that you’ll rescue it. I can’t exactly remember how involved she was with them.

          • Pharap

            I’m not sure, I can’t actually find a quote that proves it other than her mentioning the player destroyed Team Flare.

        • Ultron

          D/P/Pt did event pokemon the best. So basically Gen 4 is the pinnacle of pokemon in most ways. Gen 5 did this well too for the most part.

          • Pharap

            Only one of those I actually got to visit the place for was Darkrai I think.

            Either there wasn’t a Shaymin event near me or I missed one, or it was Platinum only or something.

            Azure flute was never released.

          • Ultron

            Manaphy never had an event location either, you had to play ranger to get it.

          • Pharap

            Yeah, but Ranger had a quest for it before you could transfer.

            I’ve still got the chocolate Pokeball that came with the download code in its original box!

          • Ultron

            Is it…edible?

          • Pharap

            No idea…
            It used to be…

            If it hasn’t melted it’s probably worth a fair bit to the right person 😛

  • Ithsme

    The Lumiose cab just cost me roughly 80% of my money, I’m so poor in game right now. xD

    • Pharap

      Walk you lazy sod 😛

    • Wes

      I printed out a map of Lumiose that I used until I was comfortable navigating the city without it. I’ve never used a cab.

    • Ultron

      Lumiose was nice until you’re entering a million buildings trying to find one location if you don’t have a map. I prefer Castelia as far as large cities go.

      • Ithsme

        I actually liked Lumiose lol.

  • MewMew

    My goodness this episode was so so good! although I enjoy the others I honestly think this was the best episode by far. I loved it definitely my favorite episode too bad it went by way too fast didn’t even notice the time until I saw Kyogre’s sharp dental work in the end xD

  • Shady

    I wonder if this mask really represent new pkmn or not. *spoiler*
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    .

    ..

    http://orig03.deviantart.net/e901/f/2016/295/9/0/1_key_items_by_marcospsychic-daltfed.png

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      It is quite the curious thing isn’t? It doesn’t seem to resemble anything we have. Plus I’d like to know what it’d be used for. Seems like a very strange item to me. lol

      • Pharap

        InB4 they replaced contests with some hideous wrestling minigame ; n ;

        • Why wrestling? Is this Twilight Princess?

          • Pharap

            They like wrestling for some reason.
            Machamp, Hawlucha, Tony.

            Don’t forget, there were those two Machamp ‘sumo wrestling’ in the demo to stop you going back through the trial cave.

          • Serenotic

            A dark pokemon game? 😀 I’d play it.

          • Shady

            If remember the chinese leak …the conceptual art show that Litten 3 have wrestling With Machap and Pikachu…… and with some useless humanz cuz they deserve that.

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Yeah I do agree that it looks like a luchador mask lol

    • Ithsme

      Yeah, I mentioned that a while ago as potential evidence.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    Ok so I’ve been thinking now that all the data mining info has settled. We’ve now been shown that the starters only have 1 form for their evolutions and it’s unlikely that’ll change. So now we’re stuck with the question of what their “secret” is again? If it’s not actually shared with Rockruff then what it said secret? Data mining doesn’t seem to have shed any info on it.

    • PercyEspeon

      Maybe it’s a storyline secret? Like they share a secret that is behind the story?
      For example, Lockstin thinks their secret is the Type: Null is made from the starters and Rockruff.
      It could be that or something else, I was more or less trying to provide an example.

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        That’s possible. Otherwise I can see anything else being thrown at us. Sure the demo data mine likely ins’t entirely the complete picture of what’s to come, but I’d be willing to bet we’d have see whatever it is that is special about them in the info mined out. That said the hackers can’t seem to find Ash Greninja so that could mean that there’s a super secret folder somewhere in there that has some extra stuff. I suppose we won’t fully know until it’s revealed tho lol

    • Pharap

      I’m guessing it’s either going to be something story related, something mundane, or personalised Z moves (i.e. being the only Alola Pokemon with personalised Z moves, so far the only ones we know are from Kanto)

      • Pharap

        BTW I have actually been saying this for a long time. I never believed the split evolution theory.

        • Vlad

          I can’t believe ANYONE actually thought that starter split evolutions were a viable possibility. Especially when you look at things from a marketing standpoint

      • Pokemania88

        I think Mimikkyu has a special Z move tho. I’m pretty sure they showed it in the little Mimikkyu song they released.

        • Pharap

          Possible, but we haven’t heard anything yet.

          If not it’s going to be something really mundane or stupid.

  • platygeist

    Hey all, just noticed something in the S/M demo, not sure if this particular concept has been noted yet. So if you head to the Pokémon Centre and speak to Kukui, he’s supposed to help you transfer Greninja and the items you receive in the demo to the full game once it’s available. Obviously this isn’t possible yet since the game isn’t out yet, but if you select the prompt to transfer Greninja, an interesting detail is revealed. Kukui will verify that you would like to transfer Greninja to the full version, then a Warning dialog follows, which says “Warning! This Pokémon will not listen to what you tell it until you have completed two grand trials in Pokémon Sun or Pokémon Moon.”

    Have I just been sleeping on the concept of “grand trials”? Or is this the name of a more overarching concept regarding the trials that hasn’t been revealed or detailed officially yet? It seems to serve the same effect as needing a certain number of gym badges in order to be able to command traded Pokémon of particular levels. Discuss!

    • Pharap

      Grand Trials are what Kahunas set you compared to Trial Captain’s regular Trials

      • platygeist

        Right, yes thank you! Totally forgot about that detail.

      • Ithsme

        Hmm, I didn’t know that.

  • ThatGuyWithThePokemon

    *Clears Throat* Shelly is bae. That is all.

    • Pharap

      With that voice you can keep her 😛

  • Exeledus

    huh. I fell asleep mid “Paper Mario: Color Splash” and I just woke up lol.

  • Exeledus

    “I’m meeting him in- how many days was it? Oh yeah, 4!”
    -_-;

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Maybe start from scratch if it’s not changing anything? Delete it and redownload. Maybe that’d help.

      • Exeledus

        its weird, I’ve met Lillie today (yesterday its like 10 after midnight here), right on cue. this is so confusing

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          I think maybe some of the vents like Lillie are based on actual days and what not while the others are based on the number of days after you play. For whatever reason that’s giving you problems it might just be best to start fresh. Think about it this way. You get to play that sweet Totem trial again lol

          • Exeledus

            that is true. i’ll start again, I think it may still be finished before the relase of the full games.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Yeah I think you’ll be fine. I wanna say from the release of the demo the last event happens just under a week away from the release of the actual games. So you have a few days for the margin of error to still make the deadline lol

          • Pharap

            If you restart now you’ll be done before Europe gets SM at least 😛

  • Exeledus

    i’d really like it if they gave all the starters an exclusive z move. not all of tem their own, but one of each type, that only works for starters.

    • Pharap

      Frenzy Plant etc 2.0 incoming 😛

      • Exeledus

        yeah like that! I like those moves, even though they aren’t too good. actually, the only pokemon I’ve ever seen any hyperbeam esque move on competitively is Aurorus (lol competitive aurorus).

        • Pharap

          Auroros is one of my favourite Fossils and favourite Ice types.

          Freze Dry came in handy.

          • Exeledus

            its my favorite. its typing is such a hassle though. it was my first masuda method shiny, with only 6 eggs, so I had to use it, Ice-per beam is incredibly powerful. I also used on in my x playthrough.

        • InfinityD4

          well they’d probably be required to know the elemental hyper beams. like giga impact and pulverizing pancake

  • Prince Fae

    I love the music in this game already and Plumeria may be one of the coolest female character designs

  • Golden_Monferno

    I actually really liked this Generations episode, it showed us a realistic view point of Primal Kyogre. I thought that it wouldn’t make any sense for Kyogre to drown the world, yet after seeing this is looked very possible, changing wind currents, creating hurricanes, etc.I thought that was a really good job with the animators.

  • Porygans

    My team is
    Salandit
    Minior
    Pyukumuku
    Vikavolt
    Bewear
    Mimikyu

    • TigerMasku

      No starter?

      • Vlad

        Some people really don’t like the starter evos. For BlacknWhite I completely refused to use any of those hideous final starter evos on my team. Even til this day I’ve never used them.

  • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

    So GBC could play GB games.
    GBA could play GBC games.
    DS could play GBA games.
    3DS could play DS games.
    Switch is confirmed to not be backwards compatible.

    So…does that mean that the Switch is not supposed to be considered the successor to the 3DS; that Nintendo will bring out a separate new handheld to replace it a few years down the line?

    • Vincentk

      I am not sure it has been confirmed the switch is not backwards compatible, but it is the most likely scenario that everybody believes

      • InfinityD4

        well if it has a disc drive i’ll be suprised, and it doesn’t have second screen.

        • Pharap

          We already know it accepts cartridges of some kind, but so far there is nothing to indicate that both screens (TV and portable) can be used in conjunction with each other.

          • InfinityD4

            apparently nintendo said no, plus the main console is the small screen

          • Pharap

            No to what?
            We know it definately takes cartridges, someone was shown inserting a cartridge during the trailer.
            The main console is the bit attached to the screen, but that plugs into a TV, and as I said, so far all the games shown only used one screen.

          • InfinityD4

            they apparently said that it doesn’t have dual screen support or backwards compatibility.

          • Pharap

            I knew about the backwards compat, not about the dual screen thing though.
            I wasn’t expecting them to do either, I was just pointing out what we had evidence of.

    • Pharap

      Despite all the hybrid stuff, the Switch is most assuredly more akin to a household console than a portable one.

    • Armaggedon16

      Nintendo confirmed 3 things

      It’s not backwards compatible
      It’s a home console first and foremost
      Double screen gaming like the wiiu is not possible.

  • belmad

    I want to know more about these two
    https://i.sli.mg/dC2S59.png https://i.sli.mg/TXrWrm.png

    • InfinityD4

      angry urchin and jellyfish spider!

      • belmad

        They are beautiful, I want them in my team, I hope they are not version exclusives

        http://pre00.deviantart.net/b4ea/th/pre/i/2016/295/a/1/spider_pokemon_by_betapunkdrawings-daluxbq.jpg

        • Ithsme

          They aren’t version exclusive, they are found on different islands, and version exclusives most of the time are found near the same area.

        • InfinityD4

          It kinda makes me think of a synapse

          • Ithsme

            I hope it’s a bacteriophage, even though that’s a stretch.

          • InfinityD4

            I want a Psychic/Electric Nerve Pokemon to exist.

        • SpectralSeraph

          OMG ITS SO BEAUTIFUL!!!! I LOVE iT!!!! DID YOU MAKE THIS?!

      • Shady

        Maybe helmet urchin but I am not sure about the inner part …….urrrrgh I must this somewhere but I can’t remember …..Thanx for adding jellyfish spider into my list but it could be Diving Bell Spider or some kind of viruses.

    • Ithsme

      It seems odd that they’d save only three new lines of Pokemon to be discovered, and one of them is just a one stage anchor.

      • Fairy

        It is odd, but it could just be a new marketing strategy seeing as SuMo is more plot based and thus that’s what they’re not wanting to spoil, thus the Pokémon are more expendable

        I just hope you’re right because I really freaking want an Alolan Rapidash, even if it’s just Pokémon that show up post game like in Diamond and Peak

        • Ithsme

          I have no doubt this game will be heavy on features and content outside of new Pokemon either way, they’ve already said they wanted to focus on post game and longevity, so there’s got to be some cool features there.

    • SpectralSeraph

      You and me both

  • Fairy
    • Shady

      4 hours left? for wat?

      • Fairy

        RWBY Volume 4 Premiere :p

    • WoahMama EastGovnah

      IM SO HYPED.

  • Haxford

    I’m sure I’m pretty late but damn this was the best Generations episode yet.

  • Shady
    • SpectralSeraph

      What’s this?!

    • Pharap

      Well I guess that answers what the game does when it finds an item it can’t name. Or possibly what placeholder they’re using for items people shouldn’t have yet.

  • Fairy

    My dad thinks suicide squad is a good movie

    I’m literally cringing

    • Pharap

      Make him watch Nolan’s trilogy and then dare him to say it again.

      • Fairy

        I’m not even a big fan of DC stuff but Nolan’s trilogy was amazing

        • Pharap

          Sad to say I’ve only seen the first. I keep intending to see the other two but never get round to it.

          • Fairy

            They’re great films, I’d recommend them, even if it’s not your usual cup of tea.

          • Pharap

            It’s more the fact they’re all really long.
            About 2 hours last time I checked 😛

          • Fairy

            Really long but it pays off, there’s barely any sections where it’d say you’re just hoping the movie would finish, but there are a few

          • Pharap

            I struggle with anything longer than 90 minutes, not just paying attention for that length of time, but actually finding the time in the first place.

          • Fairy

            See, I’m that guy who struggles with the attention span part unless I’m really into it, I have a really flexible schedule

            #theoppositenesscontinues

          • Pharap

            It depends on the format as well.
            Some things are easier to keep track of than others.
            Until fairly recently I’d never actually taken in the plot of any star wars film despite having seen most of them.

            I don’t have a schedule, but I have to fight for resources (i.e. the television and a bit of quiet).

    • SpectralSeraph

      I’m cringing so hard that my body has literally morphed into a wrinkly ball

      • Fairy

        Even worse

        My sister thinks so too

        • SpectralSeraph

          (throws up)

          • Fairy

            And even worse

            I think so too

            Jk, I have some decency, I get it from my mum

          • Pharap

            Seeing “mum” instead of “mom” on the internet is incredibly refreshing ^ u ^

    • Ultron

      That movie made me want to commit suicide

      • Fairy

        Same! Let’s make a squad for it

        • Ultron

          And people thought it would be better than civil war lmao

          • Fairy

            Civil war gets a bit confusing at times but at least it isn’t cringe worthy

          • Ultron

            Plus Vision and Scarlet Witch <3

          • Fairy

            Scarlet Witch is perf

            Too bad she and Vision killed you though :p

          • Ultron

            Evil endures >:)

          • Fairy

            Legit wouldn’t be surprised if Ultron comes back tbh

          • Ultron

            He should so we can get a more brutal version

          • Golden_Monferno

            I really enjoyed Civil War, it was very mature, top notch action, and had a lot of stakes (like who’s going to die from this, which no one did but oh well ).

          • Ultron

            Agreed, it was pretty damn good.

    • Golden_Monferno

      I actually keep on forgetting to watch Suicide Squad, I’ll probably watch it after they don’t show it in theaters anymore (at this point). I heard from critics it was bad, yet audiences like it a lot. And I’m assuming for you, it was pretty bad?

      • Ultron

        If you can overlook a completely terrible script and bad editing, you might like it. Joker was cringe-worthy though. Super bad take on him

        • Golden_Monferno

          Ah ok, kinda like what they did with Lex Luthor in Punisher v. Broodyman: Dawn of Over-rushing Franchise

          • Ultron

            Lol, that’s a pretty accurate title

          • Golden_Monferno

            Something that really dissapointed me during the film was when Superman first appeared in the movie (after the Metropolis flashback) he smiled at Lois, and I was thinking: “Is he actually gonna be like the actually Superman now, smiling and all?”

            Aaaaand he’s still depressed and moody. Plus he got stabbed in the heart and died.. Why movie, it was too early….

          • Ultron

            Yeah it was pointless to do that..

          • Exeledus

            literally one of the worst movies ive ever seen.

      • Vlad

        Do yourself a favor and keep forgetting

    • WoahMama EastGovnah

      I liked it. it wasnt that bad

    • Vlad

      My room mate was saying how “great” it was too and I’m just like wow the general public really has no idea what qualifications of a good movie are

  • Pharap
  • Nickerton

    Team Magma and Aqua were always the dumbest teams imo. Like… who tf wants the world to be without the ocean/land??

    • Ultron

      The uneducated. Galactic and Plasma are the best. It’s hard to rank one over the other, although I think Cyrus is a better boss than Ghetsis

      • Nickerton

        What did Galactic want again? I remember Rocket was like the mob, Aqua/Magma were the dummies, Plasma wanted human genocide(?), Flare wanted pokemon genocide(?) and Skull wants to be noticed by everyone lol

        • Ultron

          Galactic wanted to create a new world free of emotion

          • Nickerton

            Free of Azelf :O

          • Ultron

            I actually just checked and it turns out Mesprit is the being of emotion xD

          • Pharap

            Logos, Ethos, Pathos

            😛

        • Ithsme

          Plasma wanted world domination, flare wanted genocide

          • Nickerton

            Okay then I’d say Plasma was the most ambitious and Flare was the most evil and dark

          • Ithsme

            Too bad flare was so uninteresting.

          • Nickerton

            Too bad XY was so uninteresting.

          • Golden_Monferno

            Too bad Gen 6 was too short

          • Ithsme

            Too bad we can’t go to Kalos in SM.

          • Pharap

            No it isn’t, Kalos was boring, landscape included. Besides, Alola is far away from any other region so it would be a long plane trip.

          • Ithsme

            I would’ve loved to give it another shot and being memorable. Plus it’d make for a long and fun post game.

          • Prince Fae

            I loved Kalos, the only thing I thought was lacking was a post game and a bit of a better story (expanding on the one we got)

          • Pharap

            Aside from the fancy sundial and palace it didn’t have any nice unique landmarks.

            And if XY were considered short to begin with, surely that means Kalos in a post game would still be short, especially now everyone knows how to navigate it.

          • antoviuswolf

            especially if they pull a hgss thing like going to the same region and going alternate ways to fill in the region. same with unova in b2w2

        • Pharap

          Most of them were after the legendaries, and we all know the player has to own the legendaries, so that had to be rectified by kicking their asses and mailing them to Timbuktu 😛

  • Pharap

    Reminder that SM will let us customise our characters…
    Which means nobody can stop me dressing like this bunch:

    (And yes, that’s Kristen Schaal and Jack Black)

    • Nickerton

      and Cam from Modern Family 😮

      • Pharap

        I have no idea who or what those are 😀

        • Nickerton

          Stop not knowing things, foreign boy!

          • Fairy

            I know Cam and I’m from the country right above Pharap’s (and they’re also technically the same country but Ayyyyyyyyy it’s more like America and its States)

          • Pharap

            It’s funny how we all consider England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland as countries but the rest of the world views them differently 😛

            Not sure I’m happy with the comparison to America’s states though, it’s much deeper than that. A couple thousand years deeper 😛

          • Fairy

            Whenever someone is surprised Scotland, Ireland and Wales are in Britain I actually kinda facepalm

          • Pharap

            Yeah. What really bothers me is when people think England and Britain are the same thing aside from being unfair on the other three (i.e. the typical “you’re not British though, you’re from Scotland” comment) it also party undermines/waters down England’s specific culture and means the cross of St George gets less recognition. So it’s a lose-lose situation 😛

          • Fairy

            Yeah Scottish people get really offended by it but it has a negative impact on all four countries. I’d say Wales gets it worst though since it’s the least famous of the four tho and thus people don’t understand its culture or that it even has culture as well as Scotland, Ireland and England

            Also whenever someone says someone has a ‘British’ Accent

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c11816a3ad0f0d9263492f98f3c3ad5fd878ed9adb32a54b2133f2be5d1e25dd.gif

          • Pharap

            Yeah. At least they have Tom Jones I guess? 😛

            Ireland gets the best end of the deal since most Americans of Irish descent remember that fact and make a big deal of it. Though I do get the impression they have a fairly stereotypical view of what Ireland is like. *avoids mentioning the troubles*

            Ah, the accent thing…
            “Oh so you’re from Britain? Does that mean you have one of those cute little British accents?”
            “I have a British accent, but certainly not the one you’re thinking of.”
            XD

          • Fairy

            There’s a decent amount of Scottish Americans but they just seem to care about the fact they can claim some sort of descent from somewhere that isn’t America :p

            Yeah and the thing is when you explain the fact that Britain doesn’t have a universal accent they then jump to the idea of Scotland, England, Ireland and Wales having universal accents

          • Pharap

            A lot of Americans have English blood too, but they don’t tend to care much about that. Irish always seems to get pride of place 😛

            I just throw dramatic accents at them as much as possible (my favourites to send are geordie, scouse, brumy, cockney, west country and bristolian).

            (I must admit, I’m not as good with telling Scots accents apart since most of my relatives are from the same sort of area in and around Glasgow and I only see one of them regularly anyway.)

          • Serenotic

            Irish for the leprechauns, brah. Lol

          • Pharap

            “Films, television cartoons and advertising have popularised a specific
            image of leprechauns which bears scant resemblance to anything found in
            the cycles of Irish folklore. Irish people can find the popularised
            image of a leprechaun to be little more than a series of stereotypes of the Irish”

            Leprecauns also originally wore red, not green.

            Dreams shattered yet? 😛

          • Prince Fae

            does anyone not know this though? I thought it was pretty common knowledge

          • Serenotic

            I’ve read a lot of lore from various cultures. Leprechauns have drastically changed over the years just like most folklore/fairy tale creatures. You must have dreams for them to be shattered. Haha!

          • Pharap

            Dreams, novelty merchandise, same difference.

            Besides, every region has its own variant. The leprecaun of the Irish is just the brownie of the Scottish and English and the bucca of the Welsh and Cornish.

          • Serenotic

            Well, definitely. My favorite being the Germanic gnomes. Creepy little bastards. <3

          • Pharap

            The lines are blurred, but originally gnomes were supposed to dwell underground and brownies/Heinzelmännchen are house dwelling variants 😛

            Things get really messy and blurred though. I blame the brothers Grimm and their anthropomorphic sausages.

          • Serenotic

            I know! My grandma was born in Germany so she used to tell me all the stories she grew up with. I like the muddy/clay versions of gnomes before they hit the anthropomorphic/humanistic qualities. (I just like diminutive creatures. They’re usually very dark and ominous creatures.)

          • Pharap

            Yeah, luckily the mud thing still gets through some times, gnomes are often given earth element powers in games (e.g. Magical Starsign).

            I’m suddenly wanting to (re)play the Minish Cap… And am also reminded of Lilliput – Jon Swift was Irish after all 😛

            As an aside, I have a copy of a version of the Grimm’s fairytales somewhere. I wasn’t joking about the anthropomorphic sausages, at least three of the stories have a walking, talking sausage as a main character XD

          • Serenotic

            Whenever I see a gnome with Earth abilities I squeal with excitement, because it’s a homage to their origin! (i.e.Gnomes from Tales of
            Symphonia)

            I’ll have to reread my Grimm collection. I mean walking sausages do sound like a thing those two would come up with or steal(Lesbihonest lol).

            I never got to play Minish Cap, but it’s on my buy list for the Wii U eshop. Lol

          • Pharap

            Tales of Symphonia is one of those games I always wanted but never managed to get hold of.
            There was another game that did it that I was thinking of but I can’t remember what it was called. I’m currently digging around spriter’s resource to see if I can find something that will jog my memory 😛

            I distinctly remember a story where a sentient sausage cuts bits off itself to make dinner for its two friends. Weird stuff 😛

            It’s easy enough to run on an emulator (depending on how much the eshop version would be).
            Minish cap was my first Zelda game.
            One of the people I knew said it was underwhelming, but personally I prefer it to the original and some of the ‘classics’ like Links Awakening and the original Legend of Zelda. It’s got story, it’s got direction and its got a good set of tools to hand.

          • Pharap

            Remembered what the game was.
            It was Heroes Of Mana.

            http://i.imgur.com/BOdXNt0.png

          • Leo

            Well, a British accent is from Britain, no need for the rest of the world to know what Welsh/Scottish accents sound like

          • Pharap

            I sincerely hope that was intented as a joke and you aren’t just trolling.

          • Fairy

            It is kinda insensitive though, it’s denying a country of its culture

            And just saying ‘a British accent’ is dumb because there’s no country in the first place that just has one accent

          • Pharap

            Technically ‘a British accent’ should be an indefinite article but often it is used as if it were a definite article.

            Either way, the point stands about it being quite insensitive. It would be the equivalent of us thinking a californian accent was from the deep south and not caring if we’d got it wrong.

          • Leo

            Then following your logic you want people to be able to precisely say where the hell the accent comes from? By saying “British accent” it’s implying the accent comes from there, not that everyone speaks like that. I swear some people like you like to complicate and see problems in everything

          • Pharap

            It’s not that, it’s the way a lot of people assume that there’s only one British accent and it’s the kind that appears in Hollywood films that less than 1% of the population of Britain actually has.

            There’s loads of people who have never even heard of geordie, cockney, scouse etc

          • Fairy

            Funny, you’re the one complicating things.

            I don’t care if someone doesn’t know where my accent comes from, and I’m not asking that lol, becuase why would a random American know what a North-Eastern Scot sounds like? I’m just saying I wish people would be a bit more respectful towards other cultures and if they get something wrong, and not just over generalise cultures.

            But of course, respect is haaaaaaaard when all it would require is to make the mistake and then get corrected.

          • Leo

            I still don’t see how saying British accents is undermining Scottish culture but oh well.

          • Nickerton

            That’s where you’re from? UK?

          • Pharap

            Aye, Britain.
            Hence my jesting about being able to understand geordies.

          • Nickerton

            pffft im more exotic than you 😛

          • Fairy

            Hey Britain has exotic things too

            like my city has a strip club, an adult shop, and what I can assume is a brothel in disguise right in the open in a major street

          • Pharap

            Exotic – “Foreign, especially in an exciting way.”

            I dare say Britain is capable of being exciting. We have stonehenge, loch ness, glastonbury festival and many many nice castles.

            Failing that you can always wander into town on the night Millwall loose a football match and try to get away unscathed.

          • Fairy

            Trying to escape any British city after any relevant football team loses is hell

            Thank God I live in what’s basically the suburbs because if I lived in the city centre or near the stadium I’d probably throw myself off the cliffs XD

          • Pharap

            We have a stadium, but it’s pretty small and I don’t think we’ve ever hosted anything interesting.

            Same, the centre of town is a 15-25 minute drive away (depending on traffic :P). I’ve only ever been in town past midnight twice, and those two were more than enough XD

          • Fairy

            Surprisingly enough despite being one of the most noteworthy cities in Scotland (and you’d probably know what it is it you’re in the UK but it’s not particularly impactful), I’ve been in the city a good amount of times after midnight and I’ve been fine.

          • Pharap

            Nothing bad happened it was just not that nice, and I’m not that trusting of people here anyway, we’ve had a few notable murders and cases of missing persons. In contrast my town is small and not very noteworthy.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            To be fair a few of those would prefer to be their own countries lol

          • Pharap

            Only some of the people, not all of them.
            (I have family on all sides of those particular arguments.)

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Gotcha lol

          • Pharap

            At least I can understand geordies 😛

  • Shady

    Not bad not bad at all. *spoiler*
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    • Spetsnaz

      On a related note, I like how the ghost one is somewhat dolphin based 🙂

      • Green

        Somewhat, but at least it’s a marlin

    • Serenotic

      Is that black bar clothing… or…?

      • Leo

        it’s its dick

      • Green

        A censor

        • Serenotic

          I know that. Lol

    • Pharap

      I’ll be dreading it…

      Seriously though, they make a Totem Pole, not a Power Ranger Mech.

    • Ithsme

      Strange souvenir.

      That is all.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I can’t believe I couldn’t figure out how the bull Tapu folded up….I knew it was a bull, but couldn’t figure out how it’d look folded up…..duh…….I stoopid. lol Anyway I can see something similar to this happening I guess. A good old fashioned megazord combo could be good for Pokemon lol I will say I don’t think think many parents will like it having a giant black penis tho hahahaha

  • Fairy
  • Fairy

    Accidently included a friend’s FB picture in the last comment, so I deleted it 😡

    But anyway

    HNNNNNG

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c58947c68957ff6f099fe972b1208cf7e9e1f84da855c82e5ce7c2aa06287f18.png

  • The Last Kurusu

    Yay I finally beat Yo-Kai Watch 2 yesterday!

  • Prince Fae

    Ok so I have an issue with Alola already… 😛 not really a serious one, but there is a food chain in the demo that has Slurpuff as its mascot and in one of the trailers with Mimikyu there is an abandoned store with a swirlix as its mascot and yet according to the leaks neither of them can be found in Alola, doesn’t that just seem a little weird considering these pokemon are seemingly popular enough to warrant entire food chains after their design???

    Just a thought I have been having

    • Pharap

      Not really, Kanto Meowth appears as an NPC but can’t be caught in the wild. Some of the ride Pokemon aparently don’t appear in the wild (e.g. Charizard).

      Not that unusual. Besides, it’s probably a franchise.

      Side note: Malasadas seem tasty, and they remind me of Pokepuffs.

      • Prince Fae

        I knew if anyone was going to comment it would be you, this is not in reference to my belief that there is more pokemon, just that its an odd thing to do in terms of the region itself.

        Also your mom brings the meowth from kanto

        • Pharap

          I’m just commenting because I’ve got nothing better to do at the minute.

          Whether it’s anything to do with that or not, I’m just pointing out that a Swirlix Logo for a food chain is perfectly explainable.

          Exactly, who is to say that the food chain originates in Alola? Like I say, it could be a franchise. It would be like having a restaurant franchise with a logo that’s an animal only found in America popping up in Japan or China. Or how people are willing to wear bear themed stuff in countries that don’t actually have bears.

          • Prince Fae

            don’t worry there wasn’t meant to be any tea or shade in my comment

      • Prince Fae

        Also I cant say Malasadas :/

        • Pharap

          Hawaiian TV shows to the rescue 😛

          • Prince Fae

            no I mean like I actually cant say it, I was born tongue tied so I have a speech impediment that prevents me from being able to properly say certain words

          • Pharap

            You don’t need to say it anyway, the game doesn’t take voice commands 😛

          • Prince Fae

            k.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            If it looks like a doughnut,and it smells like a doughnut, and it even tastes like a doughnut…….then it’s a doughnut…..just a fancy one……that’s all hahaha

          • Pharap

            So that means you’re fine with me calling you an ape, right?

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            As long as I’m a pretty ape lol

          • Pharap

            Ok, from now on you are ‘the ape’.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            PRETTY ape!!!

          • Serenotic

            You’re gorgeous. Lol

          • Shady

            That’s not healthy at all.

  • Exeledus

    spoilers regarding the upcoming demo events. nothing actually happens. we don’t really get to do anything, just get an item, small cutscene. heck, the shady deal at the pier isn’t even really a shady deal, and has nothing to do with team skull, aether, etc. now I’m not too concerned about missing them.

    • Pharap

      I was only after the items anyway.

      • Exeledus

        yeah, they are nice, but I kinda expected to actually play the game some more lol

        • Pharap

          Lower your expectations, GF has a very limited amount of magic.

    • Ithsme

      That sucks. I was hoping we’d see a notable character for a small event in each one.

  • Pharap
    • TigerMasku

      lolololol

  • Shady

    Did anybody have the link of full poxdex that Luigi share?

    • Ithsme

      I think this is it: https://sli.mg/a/4HOcnq

      • Shady

        Thanx dude.

      • Chaos

        This actually makes Littens final evolution look decent.

        The Mermaid thing on the other hand …. ugh

  • Shady
    • Chaos

      Yeh, the Grass and Fire ones actually look decent now. Dunno what that thing in the middle is supposed to be though.

      • Perfect

        • Serenotic

          Star do you nickname your pokemon? 🙂

    • Vlad

      I kinda like them all now

      • Shady

        I told u that’s wat’s gonna happened.

      • antoviuswolf

        Litten3 was the hardest for me to like, but i accept a feline bipedal fire/dark combo, i can dig the aesthetic especially since most the final evo kittehs of the PokeDex are quadrupedal outside of like Espurr line

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    So I’ve been thinking. What will A. Dugtrio’s typing be? I imagine it’ll still have ground as part of it, but what does it’s hair change? lol

  • Jon Idoncair