The September issue of CoroCoro has started to leak and with it comes a handful of new Pokémon and information.

UPDATE: More scans have leaked!

  • Namakobushi (sea cucumber & fist) It uses fist-shaped organs which come out of its mouth to punch!

Yesterday’s leaks:

  • Yowashi (weak sardine) is a new Water-Type Pokémon that calls on its friends to change form
  • Sunabaa (sand + boo) and its evolution Shirodesuna (name literally means it’s a castle, isn’t it?) are Ghost/Ground-Type Pokémon
  • Nuikoguma (plush/sewn + cub) is Bewear’s pre evolution and is Normal/Fighting
  • Alolan Meowth confirmed and becomes Dark-Type
  • Alolan Marowak confirmed and will be Fire/Ghost
  • Evil Team is known as Team Skull, they are described as “the no-good Team Skull”. They’re described as hoodlums and you can see the Boss featured in the magazine
  • Serebii is reporting that next month’s issue will feature a “secret evolution” for Rockruff
  • Hentai mommy

    Yeah so that Dex leak was fake

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    Woah. What a great thing to fall asleep to! And that’s only one page! Now we wait to (de)confirm the leaks!

    • Dimitris94

      leaked pokedex is fake because of Bewear’s pre-evolution!

    • Rockcrawdaunt

      Jk now I see all the pages. How is this a guide to the southern islands? And rockruff sure is getting some love!

  • SANDCASTLE EATING PIKACHU 12/10

  • Midmatt44

    i like the alolan form meowth and marowak

  • Great leaks to fall asleep too! We got the Evil Team, Four new Pokemon, and Alolan Forms of Meowth and Marowak. 🙂

  • I wonder if that means a change for Team Rocket’s Meowth?

    • Midmatt44

      that would be cool if team rocket’s meowth changed forms

    • Daedardus

      It won’t because Alolan Meowth is Dark type, and we now that the Team Rocket Trio is not actually evil and Meowth is pretty kind to a lot of Pokémon.

      I predict there will be an episode with an Alolan Meowth causing trouble and Team Rocket Meowth trying talking sense into it.

    • Shady

      Can’t be happening cuz Team Rocket’s Meowth is not native to alola and when pokemon adapt to be alolan it can’t get normal again.

  • Shady

    How dare they trick us with the this FUKING pokedex now I am Angryyy HuAAAA.

    • Hentai Mommy

      Out of every single game this fish just might be my least fave pokemon wish at least some pokemon from the leak would be real mostly the dark/electric and gargoyle

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        Give it time. You never know if you’ll like something after it had time to grow on you. Personally, I love the concept of a fish that gathers its friends. Reminds me of swimmy (a book from my childhood).

        • PumpkinBomb

          that doesnt change the fact that it looks like it was drawn by some retarded kid

          • BLACK IYCE

            I understand that you are frustrated but it was completely uncalled and insensitive to use that word.

      • Shady

        I like this fish concept is not an evolution though.

      • PumpkinBomb

        it definetly looks terrible, they didnt even try

      • temporario23

        The fish was the only pokémon I liked from this batch (including the alolan forms)

  • platygeist

    I’m so glad that leaked Alola dex is fake. While a number of the concepts were cool, some of the names were just awful. Pawssum? Cumbersum? Anenemie? Scruluse? Definitely not upset over those being fake. I was starting to worry that those in charge of localizing the names had a Scruluse…

    • Shady

      My favorite pkmn have the worst name wat the hell Beltigre really? …..it’s seems we have some good points now.

      • platygeist

        I’m sure the official names won’t be so disappointing. I usually enjoy the clever names that GameFreak manage to come up with.

    • Nintendalek42

      Gotta say though I’m happy the list is fake because it’s nice to have stuff to discover, I though Cumbersum and Anenemie were great names, very gen I in style!

  • Shady

    Ohhhhhh …Team Skull sounds pure evil I like it ….I am wondering wat their leader looks like I pet he will be my favorite.

    • Leo

      Hopefully he’ll be fit and shirtless so he can join Kiawe and Kukui, for reasons ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

      • Shady

        I didn’t know this punk was a leader …..I hope they have higher leader.

        srry for disappointed u put I didn’t enjoy seeing shirtless guys either I am looking for strong ,badass and majestic character.

  • nb97

    The evil team looks kinda underwhelming at first sight but we’ll see. I’m so happy for Bewear’s prevo. I won’t use it but it deserved not to be a standalon in my opinion. Kinda sad because of disproving the existence of my Dragon/Fighting I’ve been waiting for so long. The fish seems interesting. Alolan Marowak is awesome, I don’t like Meowth though.

  • Poketard101

    The sand castle is a little on the silly side, but I love the Alola forms for Meowth, and for Merowack. And that pre-evolution for Beware is just the cutest thing. <3 <3 <3 ANd the new team looks kinda cool, but to me they look like punks/gang members that go around spray painting walls and fences, and just generally causing trouble, for inocent bystanders, and law enforcement, ya know.

  • David Nixon

    well guys looks like we need to get the Majora’s Mask meme setup so we’ll get ready for the big announcement,more Pokemon news info on Sun and Moon! 😀

  • Luigi301

    the list is fake, this is amazing news. bewear actually has a pre evo. marowak looks amazing, and Meowth looks so cool

  • FlamingFairies

    i….well……it’s…….ummmm 😮

    • FlamingFairies

      are we sure the sandcastle page is real?

  • PumpkinBomb

    we are almost 2 months away and all the revealed pokemon looks bad…I’m quite worried about this gen, like a sandcastle is the lamest idea ever (yes grimer/muk is miles better than this crap) this feels so much like mega man….

    also why did sugimori draw meowth in this weird pose ?

    • Rockcrawdaunt

      Just wait til the official reveal, they’ll have a reason.

    • Daedardus

      We go through this every generation, and eventually people will find Pokémon they like anyway. People have this weird bias that it is hard to satisfy them immediately with new Pokémon because it isn’t always what they expected.

      Also, it’s still three months and a half away, so not nearly ‘almost 2 months’.

    • libra

      You don’t have to like every Pokemon under the sun, but I don’t think any of the new ones are generally bad. The sandcastle is quite a unique Pokemon with Alola being based on Hawaii, and Hawaii having a bunch of beaches. So, a haunted sandcastle is rather neat. Also, I assumed that Alolan Meowth is based on the Egyptian root of cats, which is why it has a weird pose.

    • I agree. I’ve only liked a handful of the new Pokemon revealed. Most of them are to goofy for my taste like dradaddy and the sandcastle one

    • Phatmon

      its ok not to like them, but I think your over exaggerating, GF may have other ideas but out of many ideas and sketches they have they liked the ones they have because they think people will like it. And to be honest while I’m not too found of the sandcastle or bear I do respect these pokemon and that these pokemon will be one people’s team because of the stats and looks. Plus they don’t have alot of time they have been doing this since probably ORAS so the whole staff is under alot of pressure to get and to put these pokemon out. Besides this gen is about simplicity and I like that.

  • Ahh poor people who went to sleep… XD

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    I want the castle evolution to be call “frightress” inspired by fortress.

  • Shady

    Alolan Meowth ??…we saw the normal Meowth in the mother house?? ….oh wait the player r not native to Alola.

  • libra

    Damn! I was just about to go to bed. Anyways, I’m liking Yowashi a lot! Alolan Marowak is seriously Fire/Ghost! That’s already sweet. I wonder if Cubone and Persian will get Alolan forms. Also, Team Skull is looking good. I seriously wonder what they’ll do in Alola. Lastly, the leaked PokeDex list isn’t holding up. I just checked it and it did not list a pre-evolution for Beware and any of the new Pokemon. I know Giro said it was close to being accurate, but it already seems like a fan-made list.

    • Luigi301

      thats exactly what i said too! no prevo for bewear. some of the ideas were ok but the list is fake

  • GoLurk

    Team Skull…So Skuntank, Koffing, and Zubat, eh?

    • roy_vos

      Cubone and marrowak

  • David Nixon

    English time:what will be the perfect English names for Sunabaa,Shirodesuna,Yowashi And Nuikoguma?

    • nb97

      Shirodesuna will be called Frightress for sure!

      • David Nixon

        Frightresss Cool Name. 🙂

    • Teddibewear… ok I’ll stop now

      • David Nixon

        Teddibewear that a Cute name. 🙂

    • Luigi301

      sandcursle… i know this is bad…

      • I kinda like it tbh

      • David Nixon

        Bad, sandcursle is a Good Name! 😀

    • Daedardus

      Booch

      • David Nixon

        who’s Booch?

        • Daedardus

          Sunabaa I guess?

          • David Nixon

            oh Cool name. 🙂

      • platygeist

        I LOVE THIS

  • Chicolombia

    I don’t give a fuck what anyone says, I’m using that damn sandcastle on my team. It’s lit.

    • Luigi301

      i think its a cool looking pokemon lol

    • BLACK IYCE

      That’s how I feel lol! Everybody is hating on it because it fits with the “inanimate object Pokemon” thing but in all honesty this is one of the more creative ones! A ghost possesses a sandcastle! I think that’s awesome! Kinda like Banette being a possessed doll

  • FlamingFairies

    i jusr can’t look at the sandcastle and see a pokemon

  • Fish is ok, Bewear’s pre-evolution is adorable, sandcastle is probably the dumbest design yet, the Alolan forms don’t make sense to me, and Team Skull looks to be less edgy than Team Flare. 5/10 It’s ok.

  • Poketard101

    I love the whole fire dancer idea for Merowhack. <3 Its awesome, and it fit's in with the one challenge leader, who likes dancing, and is supposed to have a Merowhack on his team, but specializes in fire type Pokemon. 😀

  • Stanley

    I love that alolan meowth.
    So sassy

  • Sandcastle Pokemon- Cute Designs. Love the concept and type. 7/10
    Fish Pokemon- Very weird design and concept but great design when big. 7/10
    Bewear’s pre-evolution- Ugly as hell. 3/10
    Alolan Meowth- Love the design and the type. Brings questions if Team Rocket’s Meowth will undergo that change when Team Rocket follows Ash to Alola. 8/10
    Alolan Marowak- Same as Meowth, love the type and design. 8/10
    Team Skull- Confirmation of Evil Team. I don’t care what anyone says. 9/10

    Overall, this was a very good issue of CoroCoro.

    • PumpkinBomb

      you really didnt get how alolan pokemon work…these pokemon are native to alola, they dont change their forms when they go there lmao…

      • Sorry. My mistake. I thought I read something on the official site saying the climate allows them to change into these forms.

        • libra

          We already saw a regular Meowth in the game. The player moves to Alola and brings it with him/her. The confusion is understandable!

    • Poketard101

      Sorry but the only thing that I see as unique about that silly little sand castle is it’s typing. LOL

      And I’m not sure if we are looking at the same Pokemon, because when I look at Bewears Pre-evolution, I see an adorable little teddy bear that is totally a 8/10

      And I agree with you on the Alola forms, and the evil team. (But I don’t believe that Team Rockets Meowth will change his form.)

      • Golett and Golurk already have the ghost ground thing, though, so not even the sand castle has that going for it…

  • Shady

    Next month’s they will revele Rockruff’s “Secret Evolution” and Alolan Meowth developed after being bred by the royal family of Alola and we all know how Marowak adapt.

  • libra

    Alolan Meowth was created after being bred by the Royal Family of Alola and Alolan Marowak adapted by defending itself from natural predators.

  • Luigi301

    there will be more info including the info today on friday i think

    • roy_vos

      Look at the bottom, left of the sandcastle pokemon page. I think that is the alolan sandslash. So there are more scans… i think

  • platygeist

    Does Team Skull give off a bland vibe to anyone else?

    • libra

      nah. They seem edgy. They have masks and gold chains.

    • They are not as over the top as Team Flare or Team Aqua, so they had a tough act to follow.

  • Iron Man Squad

    golurk and sandcastle monster awesome

  • I hope Alolan Persian would be something like a black panther. I am really loving the Alolan Marowak and that typing <3. My only disappointment is the sandcastle line. But I like them more than Bewear's pre-evo at least.

    • I like the sandcastle. I didn’t go “OMG! This thing is so ugly!” right away when I saw it. Which is very unusual for non-animal Pokemon and me. Lol.

  • FlamingFairies

    I do like the Alolan forms, it’s good they are giving some older pokemon a chance 🙂

    • Marowak has to be everyone’s favorite so far in terms of design and concept, next to of course Exeggutor, the funniest and memiest of them all.

      • Poketard101

        I love it, but I was hoping that its bone mask would take on a little bit more of a “Tikki Mask” look, ya know? 😀

        • Overall, a great concept. I can really get behind both it and Alolan Meowth. Especially picturing Alolan Persian. <3

          • Poketard101

            Totally agree. <3

          • FlamingFairies

            Can’t wait to see Alolan persian especially because the original is a bit bland imo

  • ShinyXatu

    I’m at a party right now, but I’ll give my full thoughts a little later! Lots of crazy stuff!

  • Ariel

    So far only Alolan forms have been for Kanto :/ hope they do other gens as well.

    • Me to.

    • FlamingFairies

      i think that will happen next gen for another region

    • Lea

      Don’t get your hopes up.

  • PsychoSylveon

    now we know the dex leak is fake. the sandcastle isn’t in there. it shows no ground/ ghost. bwahahaha

    • roy_vos

      And no pre evo bewear

  • CoolGlaceon

    That Alolan Meowth is.. weird.
    BUT THAT BEWEAR PRE-EVO THO IT’S SO CUTE

  • I hope Team Skull is just in it to make money I am so sick of “I want to be god!” Plots.

    • Poketard101

      They seem (to me) to be a bad ass group of gang punks, that would go around knocking off convenience store’s, and steeling Pokemon from people, and vandalizing public property, and just generally being the typical scum of the universe. LOL

    • Well Flare was money and resource gathering to fund research in the ultimate weapon. Close enough?

  • PsychoSylveon

    alolan cubone us gonna be adorable and depressing af

  • Iron Man Squad

    -Shirodesuna is panquake?????
    -pre evo bewear????

    rumor alola dex fake or real?????

    • Blaze

      fake. Bewear pre-evo wasn’t included in the dex. And Shirodesuna is a ground ghost while panquake was ground dark

    • PsychoSylveon

      fake there is no ghost ground in there and no bewar evolution

      • Iron Man Squad

        yeah

      • Iron Man Squad

        RUMOR: Pokémon Sun & Moon Include 103 New is fake

  • Ariel

    I actually really love the sandcastle one, even if it is a little weird. I’ll probably have it on my Moon team, since I already have Mimikyu as my Ghost Pokémon in Sun

    • PumpkinBomb

      its not jsut weird, its bad and ugly and unprofessionaly designed and have all the reasons not to be a pokemon

      • Poketard101

        Hey if he like it let him be. 🙂

      • NesMeister

        That’s a little rude don’t you think, then again it’s the freaking internet

      • DoctorB

        Jes

        • DoctorB

          *Jesus christ, since when you’re a master in Pokemon design. What you said was completely subjective.

  • Chicolombia

    *half the Pokémon community when they see the sandcastle Pokémon*

    • Shady

      ppl really need to wait …don’t to rush by judging pokemon they r a beautiful creatures.

      • Wait for what we already have the design

        • Daedardus

          I’d give a 50% chance of being an actual good competitive Pokémon and it will be loved by all.

          • Competitively viable Pokemon aren’t loved by all, they’re only popular because they’re good

          • Just the competitors. The non-competitors will still dislike it or worse. :p

            I mean Landorus.

          • TheRece25

            I hope not. .. I don’t want to see that thing everywhere! Same for the ice cream and other odd pokemon

          • You are spared by how at least Vanilluxe is not good in competitive…

          • FlyLikeAGShep

            Klefki says hi. THough I love the adorable little thing.

          • Pharap

            The sandcastle blows the ice cream out of the water.
            All we need now is a ferris wheel and we can arrange a trip to Brighton pier, having rides on Mudbrays 😛

            (Ftr, I like Mudbray and am indifferent to Vanillish)

        • Shady

          Waite them until they grow on u ….we didn’t see the game footage yet.

          • Pharap

            So, what are your thoughts on Trubbish and Garbador?

          • Shady

            They aren’t bad.

          • Pharap

            Ok, name a bad pokemon.

          • Shady

            Did u kind test me ?? …….if u think ur taste is the best …I am pretty sure about mine I always go deep on the concept and the design ….and I always find my way to like any of them …….I would choose Voltrob for u but I won’t.

          • Pharap

            Well, if you don’t think any pokemon are bad at all I can completely disregard your opinion because I know that whatever pokemon I dislike you are guaranteed to like it, thus rendering any discussion to be a waste of time.

          • Shady

            Ok then don’t waste my time.

    • It’s more like :I

    • Chaos

      Best Pokemon ever.

      • PumpkinBomb

        poor guy …he lost his mind 🙁

        • Chaos

          I never had my mind in the first place.

    • SnappyK

      More complex designs = more polarizing.

  • David Nixon

    I’ve got an idea we:should make a new dex and only put in Pokemon that we know so far.

    • Daedardus

      Oh, I’m too late with my idea 🙁

    • Poketard101

      There is someone that already is doing that on this websight. 😀
      Every time new Pokemon get reviled, they update their dex thing.:)

      • David Nixon

        Cool so far so Good 😀

  • Daedardus

    Quick, someone make a new fake dex with these Pokémon put into it. You’ll get internet fame for two days!

    • …and then get ripped to shreds after the two days?

      • Daedardus

        You’ll remain anonymous ofcourse. But everyone will still be talking about that ‘one dex they hope is fake/true’ and you’ll just grin when sitting next to your friends.

        • Chicolombia

          -that moment when you realize you don’t have friends-

          • Daedardus

            I don’t count? 🙁

        • David Nixon

          that’s right! 😀

        • Well that anonymous leaker nickname is losing all credibility at least. HAHA.

    • Shady

      I will not believe anything from this moment until it confirm.

  • NesMeister

    I like how Bewear starts as a plush toy and evolves into a mascot costume

  • Poketard101

    Well its 1:18 here and I’m dead tired, and my mouth is killing me, (had a bunch of teeth ripped out of my head a week ago, and some of them did nerve damage.) So as much as I’d love to stay on and chat with all you lovely people, I’m going to have to turn in for the night/morning, and then come on again latter.

    So good night everyone. 😀

    • Well at least you saw the leaks before you slept, so good night!

    • FlamingFairies

      goodnight 🙂

    • Chicolombia

      Try living East coast. 3:20 here. (:

      • Daedardus

        Europe best time. It’s already 9:25 and Corocoro has fully leaked for five hours already.

        Or is that not how timezones work?

        • Chicolombia

          Nope, I’m pretty sure that’s how timezones work!

  • I think Earthen will like the sand castle only because it’s shown swallowing up Pikachu.

  • Any idea what Yowashi is based on? I’m just curious.

    • libra

      A huge school of fish.

    • Ariel

      It looks like a guppy….but I can’t be too sure tbh

    • Daedardus

      A submarine?

    • Kingdom Hearts has a similar enemy that looks both like an organic whale (Trident Tail) and a submarine fish housing other fish as well, so I wonder where they get the concept of fish inside other fish…

    • CoolGlaceon

      All I could think of are the fish in Finding Nemo haha

    • platygeist

      I’m thinking schooling fish. Think Finding Nemo-style where they shape themselves into things. I don’t know if they’re meant to be a particular type of fish though.

  • FlamingFairies

    I think the only way a non gen 1 Pokemon is getting an Alolan form is if the gen 1 pokemon had an evolution added in a later gen

  • God. The more I stare at CoroCoro, the more I’m in love! <3

  • libra

    Yowashi is an interesting Pokemon. I think I figured out how it’s ability will work. Once it’s HP gets lower than 50%, it calls upon it’s ally fishes to become a daunting Pokemon; then it increases it’s attack and defense to swiftly defeats the enemy.

    Also, I seriously want to see Alolan Persian! I hope it gets a black colour scheme. It would look outstanding. Lastly, that Anon_ _151 leak is also fake too. Marowak is Fire/Ghost, not Ground/Fire. Lonk: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/187276-pokemon-sun/74111574?page=0

    • Ariel

      Fish friends as it’s abilities….or is that to Gomamon-ish lol

    • CoolGlaceon

      Boy, they do love the whole “get stronger when hit” type of thing this gen huh

  • Ariel

    Hello all, my name is Ariel! I felt the need to introduce myself, I’ve always been the person just lurking and reading y’alls theories, but I’ve decided to start posting on here! I mean it is the 20th anniversary of my favorite franchise! So excited for these games!

    • FlamingFairies

      hi Ariel, i still mostly lurk but do come out of hiding every now and then lol

      • Ariel

        I used to post before but I don’t remember under what name. That was when Black and White came out lol

    • TheRece25

      Hello Ariel

      • Ariel

        Hello 🙂

    • Welcome to PJN After Dark!

      We still have interesting colorful comments and dissenting opinions to enjoy!

      • Ariel

        I usually leave this site open! Love reading everyone’s comments haha

    • Hi Ariel! Pleasure to have you in the community!

      • Ariel

        Thank you!!

  • CoolGlaceon

    I’m guessing it’s confirmed that the Alola starters will be getting “Secret Evolutions” as well? They have stated that Rockruff and the Alola starters have something special and this “Secret Evolution” is most probably it

    • libra

      I’m assuming that it will be the two evolutions we all thought off.
      Rowlet: Grass/Flying and Grass/Ground
      Litten: Fire/Dark and Fire
      Popplio: Water/Fairy and Water/Fighting
      It’s just a thought for now.

    • TheRece25

      Yes thought the same. But could still mean synchro or happens with z power

  • TheRece25

    I feel like bellossom would fit so well into this game

  • That sandcastle Pokemon is TRAGIC. I literally can’t take it serisouly when it!s previous evo has a shovel in its head and the final evo lips literally a sandcastle with arms. The fish Pokemon has a really cool concept and I think it’s based on those little blue fish that swim in sequence to look bigger.

    • Chicolombia

    • TheRece25

      Lol. I understand. Oddly I don’t hate it though.. just not very interested. Did they Really think these pokemon would satisfy us.. closer to the rejects.. and they grouped all together

      • I hope Pokemon is saving the best for last cause if we have more new Pokemon like this chileeee

        • TheRece25

          😂😂😂

  • Shady

    Now I understand y they made Bewear Normal/Fighting not Fairy/Fighting…..it’s Psycho murder killer and his brain didn’t grow up since it was a kid …did u Imagine this power with this little brain.

  • TheRece25

    See… The thing that bothers me about Pokemon like this new fish…. Where are all the other pokemon of its species coming from in the anime!? So water types like this would only work in water and flop like magikarp on ground? Ugh

    • “Goldeen goldeen goldeen, goldeen goldeen…”

      Yeah.

    • Nintendalek42

      I guess the concept is supposed to reflect it calling others of its species, but if you imagine it as an extension of substitute as it appears in the anime and manga (creating an energy clone), I guess it could work?

  • Ariel

    A little glad that the Pokédex leak is fake, because
    1. I spoiled it for myself, and lowkey hated myself for it lol
    2. Thought the 4 versions of the final starter evolutions was a bit excessive, although I would welcome a Day/Night version.
    3. Now the rest of the Pokémon will be a surprise 😀

    • I’m SO glad it’s fake too. OMG. You had no idea how paranoid I was.

      • Ariel

        I’m all for change but four different forms sounds excessive! Plus if they were real the name Beltigre would mean that they would have to keep the base design the same for all forms otherwise the name wouldn’t work, so it just didn’t make too much sense you know?

        • Yeah, I can’t see the Starters getting different forms for different Islands. There’s so many “leaks” going around at the moment, that are so convincing to my paranoid mind. I try to stay away from them, but they suck me in like a black hole because I’m paranoid they may be real. This CoroCoro batch has got me really excited now! I was so nervous they were gonna remove the Evil Team. They didn’t. Gym Leaders and E4 was a stretch but I like the idea of Trial Captains and Kuhanas and am interested to learn more about them. I will pray tonight to our lord and savior that is Arceus above for giving us news of our new Evil Team for S/M, Team Skull.

          • Ariel

            Team Skull is an interesting name choice tho, I was expecting something like Team Eclipse and whatnot. But yeah the “leaks” were messing with my mind too, I was like please be wrong, although some concepts were pretty cool. Although the fact that there were only 4 rock pokemon was weird. But then again I think DP had 4 fire pokemon that were new.

          • I’m SO HAPPY right now! Bewear’s pre-evolution revealed tonight just tore that leak apart like a cheese grater.

    • TheRece25

      Exactly… I was like… This is Way too much… What’s the point anymore? I knew it was fake partly.. but the other leaks proved real. So I kept quiet

  • CoolGlaceon

    What I don’t get is why Alolan Meowth is a Dark type if it were bred by royalty? Could Team Skull be the descendants of the Alolan Royal Family? The plot thickens.

    • Leo

      Because royal families were definitely pure and didn’t want to maintain their power by any means necessary.

    • Pharap

      Because people like to associate royalty with bad things despite there having been many good monarchs over the years. The good monarchs generally get forgotten though because people like hearing stories of bloodshed and debauchery.

      Imagine if game of thrones (not that I watch it) were about how a king reduced taxes, negotiated trade deals and made his kingdom prosper by having a strong economy. Nobody would watch it because they would rather watch wars, beheadings and nudity.

  • Watch out clefairy! KING Alolan meowth is the new Pokemon LGBT icon. Ahh my fucking fave

    • TheRece25

      Clefairy was lgbt? ( 0, 0)

      • Ariel

        There was that one incident with Pokemon go and the Westboro baptist church no? Or was it Jigglypuff?

        • TheRece25

          I have no idea.. lol

  • “Is there a leak?”
    (checks PJN every hour from morning until night)
    “It’s 1am… there can’t be any more leaks.”
    (goes to sleep)

    HEH HEH HEH. If they only knew…

    • I should really be going to bed. I have to wake up at 9:30am. It’s past 3:30am where I am. But the excitement is keeping me up.

      • Well you can now go to sleep since you already know the leaks…

        6 hours is more than enough for most people who aren’t in their growing years.

  • TheRece25

    I’m personally not satisfied.. I hope there is more before the month is over.. the castle and bear will be no one’s favorite (very few).. the alolan pokemon are cool I guess(eye roll)

    #NeverSatisfied!

    • Ariel

      Where is the Southern Island Scoop!! lol

      • FlamingFairies

        oh yeah i forgot abou that 🙂

    • I think we set our standards too high for Pokemon designs, especially when we look at fakemon and how well their designs compared to the sandcastle and draPAPI

    • FlyLikeAGShep

      I like the sandcastle honestly. Japanese has been have poltergeist in its folklore for years, and Shirodesuna is a great concept. It even lures its victims in a sand trap but inhabiting sand an posing as a sandcastle. I like it. Beware could be better.

  • SexyScizor89

    I’m gone for a few hours and bam! Leaks!

    • Corocoro still haven’t fixed their plumbing…

      • SexyScizor89

        That made me giggle 😛

      • Pharap

        Probably because they’re reporting on pokemon and not Mario

  • I hooe they reveal more dragon type soon because I’m tried of draPAPI. Even though daddy is growing on me. I kinda wanna catch one.

    • TheRece25

      I’ve always kinda liked it

    • Chaos

      Don’t need any more Dragons. What we need is a cool Steel Type

  • SexyScizor89

    I like the sand castle Pokemon and the Alolan Meowth/Marowak but why do we need 900 fish every generation?

    • Chaos

      Cos fish live wherever there is water.

      And water is everywhere

      • SexyScizor89

        Different water animals would be better. More variety less of the same stuff. By that logic Bug-type Pokemon would be the most common type in the series

    • Ariel

      Mainly because water is the most abundant thing on earth. Although other type of aquatic animals exist so I’m not sure.

  • CoolGlaceon

    I’m guessing Alolan Marowak is part Ghost type because of the flames on both ends of its bone are wisps? How twisted would it be if the wisp is its mother’s spirit? Damn Pokemon

    • AlolanSandschrew

      Yes fire ghost confirmed

  • TheRece25

    Can u guys imagine the Sand Castles breeding together? Poor little ditto will be left so confused. . . 😂😂😂 ok. Gn

    • Good night!

    • Ariel

      Goodnight 🙂

    • NesMeister

      There’s sand everywhere

    • Aurora Fae

      ditto is probably the only thing it will be breeding with, it seems like it will probs be genderless like carbink

  • My love for the CoroCoro leaks grows and grows. <3

  • SpectralSeraph

    OMG I LOVE THE FISH SO MUCH!!!!

    • Me too! I’m loving it more and more!

      • SpectralSeraph

        😀
        There was this book i read as a kid about a fish named Swimmy. It was about a fish who was unique and basically, with the help of the rest of his fish school, flocked to look like one huge fish to scare away predators. As a kid i LOVED this book, and to see this fish LITERALLY as that…

  • Ariel

    I love that they’re keeping the story under wraps! It makes me so happy! It’s gonna be such an amazing playthrough! Can’t wait for November, I’m asking off an entire week of work just so I can play these games lol!

  • I’m kinda worried that this. Game will be shorter than your traditional Pokemon game with this whole island challenge thing. Like damn if you can’t go to Pokemon gyms where the hell could you go? https://media.giphy.com/media/KpMH3uEmg4FWM/giphy.gif (Rf)

    • Chaos

      Gyms don’t make the game longer.
      You have four Islands to traverse. And complete challenges on

    • Who knows, the trials could be longer than the floor puzzles at Wallace’s gym…

    • Ariel

      I was thinking that as well, but we still know so little about the story! So we can’t jump to conclusions just yet!

    • edgardo amaya

      Seems like the Volcano Island gets the 4 trial captains revealed so far. If each island gets 4, then it could take time to complete. Guess we’ll find out soon enough.

  • Paulsey

    GUYS !!! this issue of corocoro basically confirms that the main character in game comes from Kanto , since his mother has a regular meowth that can only be obtained in the original Kanto region.

  • Chaos

    I actually really like the sandcastle Pokemon concept. It’s using the 2 towers as it’s hands, kind of reminds me of Hydreigon.

    The Bewear line on the other hand….let’s just say, not something I will be using.

    • They fucked a chance to amazing red panda pokemon. Bewear looks like a stuff teddy bear to me and the fact that bewear looks so unrealistic and cartoonish compared to pangroo and their both bears is tragic

      • FlyLikeAGShep

        Its because Beware is based on a plush bear. its pre evolution even has the kanji/katakana for plush in its name

  • ElectivireMan

    So with the reveal that bewear has a pre-evo can we put that other rumor of the whole pokedex being leaked to rest!?

    • Ariel

      Yes we can!

      • ElectivireMan

        Thank you I’m tired of looking at it

    • Chaos

      Nah. Don’t worry a new one will come out in the next couple of days.

  • I’m pretty sure this is what the fish pokemon is based on http://25.media.tumblr.com/dd2685de2bfbed2de8986edbf8015875/tumblr_mku6kfbnc71rpj04no1_500.gif (rf)

    • Sharknado?

      • nope. It’s a species of fish that travels in schools and the schools synchronize their swimming to give the illusion of being a bigger animal.

        • Daedardus

          Pretty smart, means more and easier food for the shark 😀

          • GOLD

            a shark that sees this is gonna just swim away.

  • Well, I’m finally going to bed now. Good night everybody! 😀

    • Ariel

      Goodnight!

  • Don’t @ me but I find alolan forms kinda lazy. I rather have new evolutions of old pokemon or mega evos.

    • Ariel

      I like them because it gives them a new spin on old favorites, plus they can only do so much before all the animals have been created into Pokémon. But to each their own 🙂

    • Pharap

      I’m half and half.
      I could live with the original 5, but the fans are really killing it by using it as an excuse to just come up with crack-typings and new type matchups that are really illogical, like Aegislash suddenly being made of wood and water.

      • Lea

        Yes, because Ninetales suddenly being an ice fairy and Sandshrew suddenly being a metal-coated snow pangolin are such logical choices with small changes when compared to the main variant.

        • Pharap

          Ninetails being Ice makes sense. The fairy bit doesn’t but the ice does. Same for sandshrew being Ice, but not the Steel bit.
          Arctic foxes and arctic shrews are real things.
          Also Exeggutor is based of the Dracaena, commonly called the ‘dragon palm’.

          It’s a stretch, but it’s more logical than some of the other excuses I’ve heard for fan made crack typings. Most don’t even come with any justification other than “it looks cool”.

          • Denis Moltine

            I’m the only one that thinks Fairy Ninetales makes sense…. At least according to what Ninetales is based of, which is a mythical fox….

          • Pharap

            Yes, Kyubi no Kitsune. But they’re supposed to be spirits, not fairies. As many have said, ghost would have made more sense.

            (That’s also the basis for Delphox.)

          • Denis Moltine

            But the Fairy typing is related to myths, not only fairies, see Tapu Koko as an example, which it is the Land Spirit Pokemon and is a Fairy type. And Fairy is the next big thing since we already have an Ice/Ghost (Froslass) and an Ice/Psychic (Nikki Minaj).

          • Pharap

            Personally I think it’s a bit of a stretch. Kitsune are supposed to be spirits in the Yokai sense, to say they’re nature spirits means categorising Bakeneko/Nekomata as fairies too.

          • Denis Moltine

            I know it’s a stretch, but it’s how they are handling the Fairy type probably. The nekomata is not a fairy, but it is a myth… And I think that GF will try and fit every myth with a Fairy typing from now on…. well, not EVERY myth, but some fairies will be based of things wenever expect of…

          • Pharap

            Some fairies I can understand and cope with like the Tapus, Granbull and Mawile, but Yokai are supposed to be ghosts and a Kyubi no Kitsune is typically classed as a yokai, not some individual entity. Another example: Froslass, based on the Yuki Onna (snow woman) yokai, ghost type.

            The only logic I can find for making yokai fairies is that Mawile could be a Futakuchi Onna (two-mouthed woman).

            It still seems odd to me though. I can understand making guardian spirits fairies, but not malevolent ones.

          • Garth St.Claire

            Yokai are actually a pretty good equivalent to the older understanding of Fairies/Elves/Nature Spirits, and there’s nothing wrong with comparing the Bakeneko/Nekomata to legends about fairies, look up the legend of the Fairy Dog.

          • Pharap

            If you mean the Cù Sìth, that’s more of a ghost like creature since it’s a psychopomp.
            Taking young to a daoine sìth (fairy mound) to feed the Aos Sí does not make it a fairy, that just means it’s willing to work with and help fairies, much in the same way me feeding fish does not make me a fish.

        • rhomba

          The snow pangolin is very confusing.

  • David Nixon

    well guys looks like we need to get the Majora’s Mask meme setup, Because there’s only 3 more days until some more info on Pokemon Sun and Moon

    • Daedardus

      You’ve met with a terrible fate, haven’t you?

      • David Nixon

        well our fate will shine bright once we get some more info on Pokemon Sun and Moon! 😀

    • ShinyXatu

      Thanks for reminding me, I still need to play more of that game. I can never get motivated to do that for some reason. Same goes for Twilight Princess.

      DAWN OF THE FIRST DAY
      72 HOURS REMAIN

  • ShinyXatu

    Alright, back again. I’ve been looking forward to this! I happened to walk past an intricate sand design today but hadn’t thought about a Pokemon based on that concept. The designs are pretty cool (giving me Yamask/Cofagrigus vibes), and Ghost/Ground is wonderfully unique. We also have the Fire/Ghost Marowak, which brings Chandelure’s typing back into the forefront. Ghost and Fairy are getting fantastic treatment this generation, and I couldn’t be happier about it. Alolan Meowth looks a bit weird but that Dark typing could be great for my team. Dark-type Persian! I’m really happy that Bewear has a cute pre-evo, because I think that line will be very popular. I’m curious about that fish Pokemon (the design is great, but I don’t understand how it’s actually a single Pokemon). Finally, glad we have an evil team. It sounds just as corny as Team Rocket, which is just what I had hoped for. WHEW. I’ll be sunbathing if you need me.

    • Ariel

      Hope Dark Meowth has better stats than Liepard though!

      • ShinyXatu

        I kind of doubt it, but we can hope. I feel like Alola forms will be very close to the stats of the originals, except with a different typing. I hope I’m wrong though.

        • Ariel

          True. Because I loved Liepard, but those defenses are horrendous!

          • ShinyXatu

            I’m with you, I think Liepard is too often forgotten. Between you and me, Unova is my favorite region next to Johto 🙂

          • Ariel

            Same here honestly 🙂 the story in the 5th Gen was the best by far!

    • Denis Moltine

      Ghost/Ground is not unique. Golurk is crying somewhere…

  • Hayley Waalen

    It looks like Team Rocket’s Meowth has a new friend

  • AquaticSynchronization

    Love it

  • ShinyXatu

    The origins of the Alola forms are really cool to me. Meowth was bred by a royal family to become evil (somehow) and Marowak was trying to resist natural predators. To be honest, I thought it would have something to do with the dead Marowak from RBY.

    • SpectralSeraph

      I REALLY hope somewhere there is a fanart of some sort of tyrannical ruler with an Alolan Meowth in their lap

      • ShinyXatu

        Seems like Giovanni would have a Dark Meowth…

        • SpectralSeraph

          Or a persian, whatever the new one looks like

      • mattgcn

        tbh i don’t like the idea of the royal family being evil because they seem super intent on being hawaii as it is then it’s the colonial powers that were evil

        • Pharap

          Spoiler: the champion is a caricature of Obama.

          On a serious note, I agree because I think royal families and wealthy people get too much schtick.

          • mattgcn

            well i wouldnt go THAT far

          • Pharap

            I like Britain’s Royal Family, they do a ton of charity work and bring in a load of tourism.

        • SpectralSeraph

          I know, I only want to see this because Alolan Meowth fits this so perfectly

  • David Nixon

    I’ve been thinking: maybe there still hope for the fossil Pokemon since that leak Pokedex is fake. 😀

    • AlolanSandschrew

      Well obviously the sandcastle is a fossil Right 😉

    • Though I’m a bit disappointed that the alternate Starter forms aren’t confirmed. It was such a cool idea.

  • Tev-Da-Trainer

    I really interested to see how Alolan forms will effect stats. Also that Sand castle Pokemon is cute in a weird way.

  • Shady

    -Yowashi is just an incredible concept could they give him Power Construct ability?

    -Sunabaa and Shirodesuna : I didn’t know y ppl hate these I predict they will terrify the alolan kids who r playing on the beach ……Shirodesuna is swallow up pickachu so this r not suitable for kids anymore and that nice.

    -Nuikoguma concept as I said before it proves that Bewear is a Psycho murder killer with baby brain.

    – I want more than changing color in Alolan forms but not bad.

  • Aurora Fae

    HOLY COW!!!! Bewears pre-evo is the cutest thing omg! little baby is waving at us all to say hello! tbh though my fav things about these leaks are the alolan meowth and Marowak, Meowth just looks amazing, and sassy

  • edgardo amaya

    I’m new here and I wanted to say hi. So hyped for these games. Preordered both games a while ago. Kinda glad the leaked dex is looking fake now. Some cool concepts but not a fan of the supposed final starter evos.

    • Aurora Fae

      welcome

      • edgardo amaya

        Thanks!

  • @movingg:disqus They did it ! 🐟🐟🐟🐟

  • It’s only me or Team Skull reminds me to Team Aqua and also to the punk trainers from XY?

  • Ghoster

    Seeing as I love Ghost-Types above all others I might have a slight bias. Nevertheless, I understand the potential criticism of the sand castle, as it is, literally, a sandcastle with eyes. Now, having said that, I understand why they did it, if you look at the picture of it that includes a Pikachu you can see that it seems as though they wait on a beach for a prey to get close, similar to lion ants, and when it gets close enough they attack. Meaning, it is likely that the design is like this for them to be inconspicuous rather than for it to appeal to children by virtue of over simplification.
    (On a side note, I can’t wait for the dex entry stating that it is born of the souls of children that were buried in the sand as a joke that didn’t end so well, because you know they get that dark…)

    In regards to the pre-evo… I’m still very on the fence about that red-panda design though I understand it. If the shiny follows the color scheme of a normal red-panda I can see many more people loving it…

    The sardine I can only commend on it’s brilliance, we have had some rather interesting abilities this gen, although many with the same trigger of going below 50% hp. The thought that it is based in the school of fish protection tactic is awesome, I can’t wait to see if it evolves and if it does, how.

    Very curious about rockruff and also the missing pages of the leak, though they might not contain anything much…

    The alolan forms are awesome!! Marowak’s is just amazing (again, love me some ghosts) for joining the fire dancer theme with the lore already inherent to the pokemon and Meowth changing like that because of a royal family, it’s brilliant. To think that, logically, such individuals must have worked through selective breeding for it to acquire the traits they deemed more beautiful and elegant (the different coloration and slightly different whiskers), but also that as a, perhaps, side-effect, from being bred in the environment of that social class with all the common ‘shady business’ that might have ensued, to have become a Dark-type is cool thinking. Like they say, a pet usually reflects the owner.

    • Aurora Fae

      the sandcastle is creative as heck tbh, anyone who thinks its not is crazy. But what missing pages are you talking about? isn’t this it?

      • Ghoster

        Yeah, I completely agree it’s well thought out. However, those who don’t really look much into it will think it’s lazy, kinda ironic.
        As for the pages, if you look at the photos you’ll notice that while the page with the sardine is the one left of the one with the alolan forms, we do not have either the one left of the bewear’s pre-evo page or the one left of the rockruff page. This could very well just be because they have nothing new. You can see the end of alolan sandslash’s claws to the left of bewear which makes it logical to assume that pages has only the alolan forms we already were shown, and yet I would rather discern for myself what’s on them, as sometimes, even just the way something is written might tells something new. (Though I doubt it.)

  • Shady

    Guzma ??……is this punk the Team Skull leader ?……I am disappointed then …I wish they have more majestic higher leader. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470727396757.jpg

  • Reece

    TL:DR – Me rambling and giving opinions

    Well the leaks are now confirmed fake I believe which is a good thing, I mean for a start there were too many dual typings which was a tad overboard.
    Some interesting designs here tho. and finally a few things on the evil team!

    Yowashi is an pretty cool concept, I mean it’s school form or whatever it is is pretty menacing and it’ll be interesting to see if it’s triggered by health, ability or attack. Another Pokemon that proves that the design team are really focusing on real life Pokemon and the whole predator/prey/adaptation thing.

    Sunabaa & Shirodesuna are pretty cute & quirky tbh, I mean the shovel in Sunabaa’s head makes it look like a chicken for some reason. I’m sure they’ll look hella cool ingame tho, especially if they have a shifting sand movement that continuously moves around. Also unusual typing for sandcastles so I’m looking forward to its text. Might even encounter a few on the beach by interacting with em.

    Nuikoguma Is damn cute but in that photo it looks really disproportionate, like it’s head is massive but then again, in the pic to the left it looks fine. Start them out young on the “crush a man like he’s like a stick with a hug” mentality is what I always say

    Alolan Meowth is a nice surprise (Dark’s to be expected *shakes fist at Mewoth giving other Meowth’s a bad name*) and it look so odd even tho the only thing that’s changed is it’s colour haha/ I expect Persian to be the target of many a Sableye when it evolves cause I’m expecting some serious royal family bling. Also confirmation of an Alolan royal family, so maybe they’ll show up in the story in some way – maybe the bad guys will hold em hostage.

    We all expected Alolan Marowak – Fire type was a given but Ghost not so much. I mean I’ve seen Megas where people have made it Ground/Ghost, but I like the competition with Chandelure. I wonder what predators Marowak has had to change to resist.
    I do like how both of the two Alolan forms revealed aren’t massively an aesthetic change. Simple is best after all.

    Finally the evil team, I see where they’re going with the leader guy looking so chill. I mean the professor is also shirtless and in a lab coat, so it’s a fun direction. Team Skull for me implies that they want the Tapu guardian Pokemon – as skull is head and what can the Tapus do (Well we’ve seen one of them do): turn into the head of an animal. How that’ll tie into the mascot legendaries, no idea how tbh but what if the final island trial totems are the mascots, and since you battle the Kahunas who have been chosen by the guardians, the evil team are tryna speed up that process by getting all 4 guardians and somehow cheating the system?
    Nice Sun & Moon shaped glasses on the boss guy’s head tho and the girl reminds me of Mira (DPPt in Wayward Cave), I think it’s the hair

    • Lea

      Dual typing are never too much, especially if they’re new combinations. Single types have a much harder time standing out, especially now we have more than 700 pokémon out there.

  • Leo

    Why don’t you guys like the Bewear line? I think it’s pretty cute and its cartoonish look makes it stand out from the rest. And just like I don’t care about that psychic fish we got before, I’ll also ignore the sand castle and this other fish pokemon. Are they horrible? Yes, but it won’t ruin the game for me.
    I have nothing else to say about this batch of information, it doesn’t really do anything to me.

    • AquaticSynchronization

      I like it. I probably won’t be using them, but I still like them.

      • Leo

        I’ll probably have it on my team but not the first time I play the game.

  • AquaticSynchronization

    TWO new Ground-types! Earthen all over the place atm!

    • Leo

      He doesn’t deserve to wake up to this x)

      • AquaticSynchronization

        But I do, and I love Ground types as well!

  • The first time I don’t check the site when I wake up we get this! Majors stuff!

    Not a fan of the Alolan forms.
    But adore the castle, bear and fishy stuff.
    Bear will certainly be part of my team.

  • Mega_Mewtwo_Y

    So we can assume that the list with the 103 Pokémon is now fake, right?

    • Leo

      Yes

    • Shady

      Don’t make me remember that ……I will go mad.

      I feel I was dump by believing this the leakers had many mistakes but I was blind.

      • Leo

        I just went through it once but didn’t think much of it. I’d be lying if I said I didn’t wish litten had a different evo but I’ve accepted popplio3 as the true savior, the siren who’ll guide my team even in the darkest nights (and kill every litten3 on the way)

        • Mega_Mewtwo_Y

          Don’t worry about it! They were also real for me!

        • Shady

          U should notice that litten3 is my dude I mentioned that several time before I think it will be my favorite in this gen.

          • Leo

            ..

          • Shady

            I am ready …..show me ur best.

          • Leo

            Hydro Cannon!

    • AquaticSynchronization

      Still hope we’ll get Poison/Fairy, Dragon/Fighting, Bug/Dark/, Dark/Electric, Dragon/Steel and Ice/Fighting though.

    • Denis Moltine

      I now want a Dragon/Fighting Gargoyle and a REAL Pokemon named Quasaur….

  • Denis Moltine

    It seems that the Bewear line is so dangerous that its pre-evolution killed 103 Pokémon in one strike!

    I must say, I prefer the “leaks” though…. none of these new ones really stood out for me. At least Alolan Meowth and Marowak are there and they seem very cool….

  • tortle3k

    This gang of pirates seems a lot different in tone than Team Aqua. I don’t think they’ll be using water types as their primary type.

    • tortle3k

      Also I can’t be the only one who loves the Bewear line.

      I don’t like Alola Meowth, though. Hopefully it looks better in game.

      • Pharap

        I think the Meowth looks weird because they curled its whiskers and its face is wonky.

      • Jamal

        Your not alone I love this guy he’s definitely going on the squad plus rockruff and litten. He reminds me the big plush dolls I couldn’t get at the carnival because of the games being rigged.

    • FlyLikeAGShep

      To be honest I see them primarily using either Dark Pokemon or Ghost Pokemon

  • Pharap

    I’m sorry guys, but:

    Don’t like the sandcastle, it looks like a 5 year old designed it.
    Don’t like fish made of fish, too weird.
    And WTF is up with the squashed Bewear? It’s like someone took a vacuum cleaner to it and sucked out 80% of its stuffing.

    I’m half and half about the Dark Meowth, it might just be because of the smug way they’ve drawn it and the way its whiskers curl upward.
    Marowak is a bit small to make out and I was hoping it would be Ground/Fire, but out of this batch I’d say it’s the best one.

    The skull team looks like a biker gang, which I can sorta live with. I like the white haired guy’s design, the others make me want to scream “stay in school, ya punks”.

    Still loving Rockruff, Oricorio, Bewear and Exeggutor though.

    • SexyScizor89

      I actually like the sandcastle Pokemon but I hate the fish and Bewear’s pre-evolution. I like the new forms of Meowth and Marowak and their new typings are interesting

      • Pharap

        The fish looks good at a distance, the closer you get to it, the more you realise it’s made up of hundreds of other tiny fish and the more I want to scream.

        • FlyLikeAGShep

          But it makes sense tho. Thats how schools of fish work in real life, I’m surprised that didn’t do that in the Hoenn region to be honest.

          • Pharap

            A giant tornado of fish would be reasonable, a fish shape made of hundreds of smaller fish is weird.

    • Jamal

      Well the evolution kind of gives me a Diglet,Dugtrio Vibe. Would be cool if they gave it the same stats and water absorb.

      • Pharap

        Last time I checked the tide coming in washed away sandcastles 😛 Water Absorb would be a bit of a stretch.
        Weak Armour would make sense.

        • Jamal

          Or arena trap because of that poor pikachu about be eaten

          • Pharap

            On the one hand it’s a bit samey, on the other hand I can’t fault the logic and if there’s two things I love it’s lore and logic.

  • VictorMCP

    I’m glad that list was fake, I really need Mimikyu to evolve 💙

    • Pharap

      Mimikyu evolving is doubtful, it practically screams singleton.

  • Mega_Mewtwo_Y

    So much hype about Rockruff and the “secret evolution”. I know that we have to pick one of the 3 starters, but I’m thinking about making Rockruff my main eheh

    • Pharap

      Could be interesting. Rockruff is a pretty decent pokemon (assuming they haven’t mutilated its evo).

      I sometimes think they should do a game where everyone gets the same starter, like in pokemon yellow and pokemon XD. Either that or give a wider choice.

      • Mega_Mewtwo_Y

        I will pick Litten, but I really like Rockruff! It really looks like a partner and you can see that by the new Manga they are going to publish!

      • Vlad

        I honestly feel like eevee should be the starter

  • FlyLikeAGShep

    I love the fact that people are raggin’ on Shirodesuna. You guys go gaga for a ghost pokemon with literally a cloth over it and a pikachu face drawn on it, but don’t like the designs of a ghost typing inhabitant the sand to encase its victims in a sand trap. Bruuuuuuuuh.

    • SexyScizor89

      Mimikyu is the dumbest thing since Stunfisk IMO

    • Pharap

      Mimikyu has a good story for one thing.
      Secondly it’s better drawn than that sandcastle.

      • FlyLikeAGShep

        It bugs me that everyone doesn’t like some ghost pokemon because the inhabitant objects. That what poltergeist do! Also I wouldnt judge it until I see the in game model. I didn’t like Mimikyuu until I got its background and saw the ingame model.

        • Leo

          I’d rather thing the objects are the pokemon or else it’s like we have no idea what the pokemon looks like

          • FlyLikeAGShep

            Eh, I understand the ghost pokemon haunting or possesion objects. That can be explained. However, some pokemon looking like inanimate objects with no good explanation, I’m like….eh…

          • Leo

            I understand it too, but if this pokemon is possessing a sand castle, how does it actually look like?

          • FlyLikeAGShep

            What does a poltergeist actually look like if they were a real thing? Ghost don’t usually have a material form. THey’re just there invisible to the naked eye or they blend in with the shadows. Depending on the legends or folklores you read or hear about their appearance changes. There is no definite description of a ghost.

          • Leo

            The thing is that ghosts don’t exist and in Pokemon you would be able to capture it. It’s confusing to me sorry haha

        • Pharap

          My issue isn’t with object possession. I liked Chandelure, Rotom, Shuppet/Banette, Spiritomb and Cofagrigus. I don’t like Mr Sandcastle. It’s model would have to be a heck of a lot better for me to not dump it in my ‘dislike’ group. It should feel special though, that’s a very small group.

          • FlyLikeAGShep

            Again you need to judge the ingame model first. The way it moves and its texture may do it some justice

          • Pharap

            At best it’s going to end up on my ‘tolerable’ list, like Trubbish.

  • simkenno

    This is a great time for CoroCoro for me because my best friend of 10 years moved to Australia today.

    This news and all the upcoming stuff will help keep my mind off it. Once again Pokémon helping me, Thanks 🙂

  • Armaggedon16

    The new Pokemon are “Meh”

    Sandcastle is dumb,and are regional “Gamefreak is out of ideas Pokemon”

    Alolan Meowth is Ugly.
    Alolan Marowak is cool.

    I don’t care about Beware’s preevo. It’s alright

    The fish is average, but what’s interesting about it is that The bigger fish isn’t it’s evolution.

    All these Pokemon will look much better in game,though.

    What’s most interesting Is that they Finally showed us the evil team. But I find it odd that they showed off the Leader so soon. Also, we don’t know their goal or anything.

    This also deconfirms the Pokedex leak, so there’s that.

  • Mega_Mewtwo_Y

    Some things we need to consider. The Starters final evolutions could still be real. Rockruff may still get the four types of Rock/Dark, Rock/Steel, Rock/Fighting, Rock/Fairy, because both of these informations were given by another “leaker”. The one from the list just took it to make the list more real.
    I think that the Starters will have two evolutions and Rockruff two or four.

    • Denis Moltine

      I am rooting for those Final evos, especially Rowlet’s Archer!

      And I think the secret for Rockruff is, he evolves depending on which starter you choose…. Just a gut feeling…

      • Mega_Mewtwo_Y

        That would be interesting!

    • Pharap

      My money is on them being the only 4 evo lines capable of following the player like in HG/SS. Just to buck the trend a bit 😛

  • Generation 7 so far: (italicized are to be announced, bold are the new ones)

    1. Rowlet
    2. first evo
    3. second evo
    4. Litten
    5. first evo
    6. second evo
    7. Popplio
    8. first evo
    9. second evo
    10. Pikipek
    11. first evo
    12. second evo
    13. Rockruff
    14. first evo
    15. Komala
    16. Yungoos
    17. Gumshoos
    18. Grubbin
    19. Charjabug
    20. Vikabolt
    21. Bruxish
    22. Drampa
    23. Cutiefly
    24. Togedemaru
    25. Salandit
    26. Mimikyu
    27. Nuikoguma
    28. Bewear
    29. Wimpod
    30. Mudbray
    31. Mudsdale
    32. Bounsweet
    33. Comfey
    34. Fomantis
    35. Lurantis
    36. Orikorio
    37. Minior
    38. Sunabaa
    39. Shirodesuna
    40. Yokushi
    41. Odoridori
    42. Kiteruguma
    43. Tapu Koko
    44. guardian 2
    45. guardian 3
    46. guardian 4
    47. Solgaleo
    48. Lunala
    49. Magearna

    1. Alolan Exeggutor
    2. Alolan Vulpix
    3. Alolan Ninetales
    4. Alolan Sandshrew
    5. Slolan Sandslash
    6. Alolan Marowak
    7. Alolan Meowth

    • Denis Moltine

      Ororidori is Oricorio and Kiteruguma is Bewear. Your list is kinda off…

      Still, that many Pokemon in the game revealed (well, except for the evos and Guardians, that are guaranteed) 3 months before launch seems like this gen will have a bunch of them!

      • alright edited it!

      • Pharap

        Rule 23: don’t put people who can’t read Japanese in charge of making lists of pokemon 😛

        • Denis Moltine

          Oh, c’mon, it’s not that bad…. lol

          • Pharap

            Sore wa totemo warui

  • Ultron

    These honestly look very fake. Also disappointed that the list isn’t real..

    • Pharap

      I’m in the same boat. I really liked the sounds of some of the stuff on that list.

      Also the dark meowth’s face looks skewed and the sandcastle looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old.

      • Ultron

        Yeah, not sure how I like these ones. The fish is interesting but I’ll wait to see in game models

  • Armaggedon16

    I am Honestly very dissapointed with the evil team. They look like typical thugs not an organized team bent on world domination. The leader looks very generic,and they seem like an Ordinary biker gang than an evil team.
    I was hoping we would get something different,considering how we don’t have gyms either. Really hope this doesn’t mean a shit story again

    • Denis Moltine

      Looks like Mira got pissed for being trapped for so long in that Wayward Cave that she became evil….. That Skull team girl looks just like an adult version of her….

    • knightwolf09

      So…Team Rocket basically?

  • Pharap

    Huh, aparently if you choose a reaction more than once it registers more than once. Weird.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Well official confirmation that that list is a bunch of bunk
    Cut the limbs off now before they grow nerve endings

    • Pharap

      Malco has already bet money that you’ll like the sandcastle purely because it swallows Pikachu.

      (I lied about the money, but it made the story better :P)

      • EarthenWarrior

        I do enjoy the sand blob but my only peeve is the actual shovel sticking out
        Also the Fire/Ghost Marowak does not feel like anything special

        • Just imagine it’s a zombie and it can’t think properly because someone jammed the shovel in its head… XD

          • Pharap

            Ironically that proposition would actually makes it go up in my estimation.

    • nb97

      Earthen! Tell me your opinion about the sandcastle NOW!

      • EarthenWarrior

        Yeesh what am I show or something
        Look I like it just fine, fine enough for my Ground Mono Journey but maybe not so much official play through

        • nb97

          This thing was designed for you though. You like threatening people with sharp objects so the shovel also makes some sense.

          • Pharap

            Sharp? A plastic kiddie’s trowel?

          • nb97

            When I was in kindergarten I had a shovel almost identical to this and it was made of metal. I can’t really tell what this one is made of.

          • Pharap

            Yikes. I’m fairly certain no adult would have given me a real metal trowel when I was 4/5.

          • nb97

            Considering how violent I was at the age of 4, I don’t know what they were thinking lol. I beat up all the kids and even the adults on my very first day.

          • Pharap
          • Claus H. Luíz

            ( ಠ_ಠ)–†

          • EarthenWarrior

            Hmmmm maybe this Sandoom can morph its body like sand sculptures and really roust opponents

          • nb97

            Having various forms of Shirodesuna would be epic. The base form is just a pile of sand so it could become anything I guess. Won’t happen because of the name, but it would be epic nonetheless.

          • EarthenWarrior
          • nb97

            A bit too much… 😀

          • EarthenWarrior

            It probably could do that

          • Pharap

            Oddly, I approve.
            Oh wow, I’m actually wishing gamefreak would make something bipedal. Today is a weird day.

          • Pharap

            If it managed to pull off a professional sand fortress form it would be redeemed.

  • Denis Moltine

    I’m now hoping for the Alolan forms to have different stats than the original ones. I would like a faster Marowak, Speed+Thick Club = Profit!

    • Claus H. Luíz

      I kinda hope for that, too, but based on the official description for Alolan Sandslash, it kinda seems like the only differences will be their Abilities, movepool and, of course, appearance.

      The weight of the ice that covers its body makes these Alolan Sandslash
      heavier than normal Sandslash, and this causes them to be slower. Yet in
      snow fields and on ice, they move by creating a path with their claws,
      and so they’re able to move with swiftness.

      • Richard Haslam

        I just realized that, although this is basing on Charles Darwin’s evolution theory of islands. It is also yet ANOTHER RIPOFF OF DIGIMON because there are also some Pokemon that look similar but are different, such as Fridgimon and Mudmon.

        • Pharap

          Frigimon and Chuchidarumon.

          But it’s not really a rip off, natural selection and mutations are real things. Plus other RPGs have done it with their monsters for years. It’s even a TV trope.

          • Richard Haslam

            true

        • Claus H. Luíz

          The hell? It’s not a ripoff of Digimon. That’s like saying they both ripped off Charles Darwin’s evolution theory. Digimon didn’t even claim they’re monsters have regional or environmental differences. You might as well be saying Digimon was a ripoff of Tamagatchi.

  • Pharap

    Wait a minute, there’s a page missing.
    Look on the left, there’s a page with more names and a blue foot that looks like it belongs to metang. Left of Bewear.

    http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/corocorosep162.jpg

    • nb97

      That’s Sandslash.

      • Pharap

        Would have still been nice to see it.

    • Shady

      Alolan Sandslash.

      • Pharap

        They still should have added it so we could see it, it might have had new information for those who can read Japanese.

        • Denis Moltine

          I believe that if it had some relevant info, they would’ve show it…. But I agree it would be nice to see it…

  • Shady

    The biggest problem for me we didn’t have any Dark type yet If Litten 3 didn’t have dark Dark type I will be pissed off.

    • nb97

      Well, I’m also hoping for a Dark type in the new trailer on the 12th. Also a new Dragon would be nice.

      • Shady

        I like dragon too but until now we don’t have any of my favorite type.

    • Pharap

      Dark Meowth doesn’t count?

      • Shady

        nope.

        • Pharap

          Poor Meowth :C
          All that breeding by wealthy tyrants gone to waste.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Also got to get this out there
    That Bewear cub is totally stupid,
    It looks like the unholy love child of a Muppet Baby and like the most genetically unstable red panda

    • Denis Moltine

      But it is so dangerous that can kill 100 Pokemon in one blow!!!!

      I’ll see myself out….

    • Shady

      I wrote a theory about that below…..I feel u would like it.

    • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

      I like it more than what it evolves into, but design-wise I find them both a little…awkward? I won’t be using that line in a playthrough.

    • Pharap

      My first reaction was that it looked like someone had stuck a vacuum cleaner up it and sucked out 80% of the stuffing.

    • Richard Haslam

      Actually it’s suppose to be based on those plush teddy bears you get at toy shops or gift shops at tourist attractions, such as zoos, theme parks and funfairs

  • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

    I love the new Evil Team. In a single piece of official art they have more personality than an entire generation of Team Flare, lol.

    That poor sandcastle is gonna get so much hate. BUT IT’S CREEPY AND EATING A PIKACHU HOW CAN YOU HATE IT ;__;

    • Pharap

      “HOW CAN YOU HATE IT”
      Because it looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old.
      “BUT IT’S CREEPY”
      Not creepy enough.

      “I love the new Evil Team. In a single piece of official art they have
      more personality than an entire generation of Team Flare, lol.”
      That I can kind of agree on. The white haired dude looks more interesting than any of the team flare executives at least.

      • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

        I’m with you on the design, I generally tend to prefer the ghost types that look playfully malevolent. Like Gengar.

        But its concept is great and very fitting with how creepy previous ghost Pokemon have been. I just love the idea of a sandcastle Pokemon hiding in pain sight, lying in wait for an unsuspecting child to stumble into its hungry mouth…xD

  • Richard Haslam

    Even so, it does seem interesting to think the chinese leaker has so far gotten most of these in the list right. And if she had also mentioned Sandcastle and Teddy Bear, it woud’ve been more believable. Still! if the different evolution for some pokemon are proven to be real, then we would’ve probably have gotten these results.

    Please note that the names and the porpouse are not official, it’s just a way of describing Rowlet, Litten, Popplio and Rokruff’s evolution paths.
    http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4066/5295/original.jpg

  • Richard Haslam

    After 20 years, Pokemon is certainly starting to show it’s age and losing it’s shine. It’s now scrapping the bottom of the barrel with uncreative and unoriginal ideas. How very disappointing.

    But hey, like The Simpsons and Family Guy, business is business! At least it brings in the new younger kids to feed on their slob and poo out the gold bricks to these now cheap and wits end companies need to survive.

    Okay it maybe not gold, s$%t is s$%t afterall, but you get what I’m going here.

    I woudn’t be surprised to think that their only goal for the entire series before finally calling it a day, is if they finally reached to 1000 Pokemon. They’re already reaching to their 800s, why stop now when you’re near to the finishing line.

    • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

      “Pokemon is certainly starting to show it’s age and losing it’s shine. It’s now scrapping the bottom of the barrel with uncreative and unoriginal ideas. How very disappointing.”

      People have been saying this literally every generation for 20 years :/

      I think Alola is showing great promise with beautifully original and creative Pokemon so far. Sure it’s not perfect but no gen has been perfect. I don’t require a perfect game, just an enjoyable, fun one.

      Sorry you’re disappointed, but Pokemon isn’t calling it a day anytime soon.

      • Richard Haslam

        You’re right, they’re not. I’m still hoping of how this game will turn out.

        At least it makes the younger kids happy (*cough* Japanese kids *cough*). It’s their main focus after all.

    • Pharap

      Funny, a genwunner I used to know said the same thing when gen 5 came out.

      Not even rubbish bags and ice creams can ruin pokemon for good.

      I will happily accept the sandcastles, crushed plushes and fish swarms if it means I get dancing birds, rock dogs, long necked palm trees and mantis orchids.

      • Richard Haslam

        Look! I’ve stopped with Pokemon the anime and stuck with the game almost 10 years ago. I don’t mind about the sandcastle or the plush. I’m just disappointed that that list was proven false despite a few things in it that proves of it maybe becoming true. If you’ve seen my evolution branch graph for Rokruff and the starters below, you get the idea of what I’m getting at. It even shows that the type hacking for the starters from the japanese pokemon website is narrowed to one island.

        • Pharap

          I’ve never watched the anime fully regularly, just the odd episode.
          I’m also upset that the list was disproved because I only found out about it a few hours ago and really liked some of the pokemon listed on it.
          I doubt that the starters will have more than 1 alternate form though, and I doubt that’s what Rockruff’s evo would share in common with them.
          So far my theory is that Rockruff and the starters are the only ones that can follow you around or go in a special area with you.

          • Richard Haslam

            hmmm, this may sound interesting afterall!

            Actually, I was hoping for Rowlet’s final evolution name to be based on Robin Hood because of how it’s description fits the character. Plus, how many pokemon do you know that are based on British things?

          • Pharap

            I suppose technically Snubull/Granbull are based on a bull dog, but those are only really considered British because they look like queen Victoria. Houndour/Houndoom are comparable to the black dog [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_dog_(ghost)] since they are dark type. Technically some of the dragons could be attributed to British myth, like Druddigon resembling the Welsh dragon. There’s the Wyvern, which Noivern is based on. And there’s the move Will-o-Wisp which is based on Will-o-the-wisp, another British (arguably English) myth. Then there’s the standing stones that featured in Kalos, the town where the main event of the main story took place, similar to various standing stones through the country.

            Most of these things are things that people forget are considered British because Britain has had such an impact on the world that a fair number of our traditions spread across the globe and became common place. Admittedly, I doubt these were intended to be British themed, but they can be attributed as such.

          • Richard Haslam

            You must remember that some of these things, such as Noivern, and the stone circles are not british, but mostly european. Stone circles, though not circular, are found in France. Many a Pokemon found are French based, even the name Pokemon itself.

            Also that’s british are the dog line in Unova, which is based on the terriers

          • Pharap

            France may have many Menhir, but Britain has the highest concentration of proper Henges. Stonehenge, Mayburgh Henge, the Knowlton Circles, the Maumbury Rings, the Thorntonbourough Henges, Woodhenge, Avebury Henge etc

            As for a Wyvern, one of the most famous Wyverns is the symbol of the Kingdom of Wessex, which existed from 519 AD to the 10th century. Also “Since the sixteenth century, in English, Scottish, and Irish heraldry,
            the key distinction has been that a wyvern has two legs, whereas a
            dragon has four; however, this distinction is not generally observed in
            the heraldry of other European countries, where two-legged dragons are
            entirely acceptable”. It’s also very prominent in English family crests, so I’d argue it might exist in europe but is probably more prominent in England and Wales than other countries. Especially in the West Country, since that’s where the Kingdom of Wessex was originally.

          • Richard Haslam

            so would you think Rowlet’s final evolution maybe based and world be named after Robin Hood?

          • Pharap

            Yeah, it’s plausible. The leaked Rowlet evolution was my favourite out of the 3, but I’m hoping they were fake because if that’s Litten’s final form, I will cry into my pillow for weeks.

          • Richard Haslam

            why, because of it being on two legs rather than two? When Typhlosion and Imfernape run on all fours. Also I don’t think the final form of Litten is Fire/Fighting, it’ll probably be Fire/Dark

          • Pharap

            Not just being bipedal. I also don’t like its hands or the fire belt, and I’m not too keen on the shirt or its face. I’ve seen a fair number of fan designs that I like though.

            I have no issue against fire/fighting, it has served me well for years.

          • Richard Haslam

            It’s also said to be inspired from Tiger Mask, one of Ken Sugimori’s favorite shows.

            Also came up with some ideas for the Pokemon’s names…

            Robinhoot (Play on Robin Hood), Tygressor (Tiger, Opressor), Sirelio (Siren, Lio)

          • Pharap

            I still feel they could have pulled it off better if they absolutely had to make a wrestling tiger.

            I prefer Robinhoot to Robinroot, the current most likely name.
            The other two are also reasonably good too, I can’t remember what the leaks are saying they’re supposed to be.

          • Richard Haslam

            Archer, Wrestler, Siren.

            Also, another good name for Rowlet’s Final Evolution, Sherhoot (Sherwood-Hoot)

          • Pharap

            I meant what their names were supposed to be 😛

            I would have been tempted to do an archery-based name instead of an obvious robin hood reference.

            Like Archileaf, Foliarrow or Bowing (if they didn’t get sued :P)

          • Richard Haslam

            maybe for it’s Japanese naming, but if it’s based on iconic characters, such as Empoleon, surly they would called Rowlet after Robin Hood or similar.

            Maybe Archood?

          • Pharap

            I thought Empoleon was just a generic emperor penguin. Weird.

            Archood sounds reasonable too. Archery + Hood.

    • AquaticSynchronization

      State of this troll

      • Richard Haslam

        Look, I’m fine now, no need to rub it in.

    • IhateGenwunners

      So Muk, Seel and Ekans we’re creative and original?
      Wow pokemon seems to have lost it’s shine pretty quickly am I right?
      Man Voltorb and Magneton are super creative, a pokeball with a face and three Magnemites put together. Damn was Dugtrio original, three fucking Digletts, surely Gamefreak could ever go more original than that. A Sandcastle pokemon, damn thats unoriginal, back in my day there were just godlike designs that will never be topped. All these new pokemon look like fucking digimon good that I just played gen1, it was the best! These new types suck, back in my day pokemon had one type or rarely two and you’d just spam flamethrower and surf. You didn’t need to play… tactical ewww, sadly they have messed up since gen2. IV’s and EV’s whats that garbage? So unoriginal. What a pokemon with an interesting and creative origin that is not just sludge with a face or three pokemon stuck together? They really have ran out of ideas. Alolan forms? Why are they ruining our original 151 pokemanzzzz oh yeah I know, money and running out of ideas. Hawaii region? They must really run out of region ideas. What, sun and moon? OUT OF FUCKING COLOURS. 3D graphics? OUT OF IDEAS. OUT OF FUCKING IDEAS EVERYWHERE. #Gen1FTW #Gen1onlyrealpokemonamirightXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

      • Pharap

        Wow, your name isn’t a joke.
        Seriously, that’s a lot of text. TL;DR

        • IhateGenwunners

          No that name is totally serious.
          TL;DR: Genwunners should just shut up about newer pokemon designs. Their nostalgia blinds them. lol

          • Pharap

            Eh, I can’t disagree. I used to know a genwunner. He claimed Blitzle being a Zebra was a sign they’d run out of ideas.

    • Ultron

      Lol. You don’t know a thing about business if you think they’ll stop when they reach 1000 pokemon. You should really check out the top grossing video game franchises.

    • Armaggedon16

      I agree!
      We need A crab named krabby, seal named seal,a bunch of eggs and broken gameplay. Those really were the golden days

      • Pharap

        Fun fact: Klang’s Japanese name was Giaru. A gear named Gear. gg gamefreak 😀

  • OG Bulba

    Wait didn’t Corocoro say it was gonna cover something about the southern island this month???

    • There could be more pages, after all.

      There’s one page where there’s clearly an Alolan Sandslash on the left.

      • OG Bulba

        Yeah that’s true I’m just waiting see if they do bring more or maybe this are just Pokemon from that island but who knows I’m just happy we’re getting more news!!!

    • Pharap

      More justification for my complain about them leaving pages out 😀

      • OG Bulba

        I know I saw that there’s another page not shown with the rockruff and evil page and the alolan form sandslash claw also

        • Pharap

          The person doing the scanning/uploading might have skipped the other pages because they couldn’t read Japanese and couldn’t see any obviously useful stuff on them, but there could easily be useful exclusive information on them.

          Heck, even new information about already revealed pokemon would be handy.

    • OG Bulba

      Never mind just got.😩

  • Chaos

    Sandcastle Mon is bae

  • gengarjack

    this proves the leaked pokedex to be WRONG, as it stated that bewear didnt have an pre evolution, also there was no ghost ground type .

    • Richard Haslam

      Yes alright, we already got that. No need to rub it in.

    • Pharap

      ; n ;

  • simkenno

    If Rockruff does involve into a werewolf I definitely see it involving a full moon. Some sort of event in the game or area where a full moon appears.

    • Pharap

      Full moon isla… oh wait, never mind, that was gen 4.

  • EarthenWarrior

    My only hope for the Sandcastle is that it just doesn’t get stuck with Arena Trap unless it has the necessary power to back it up

    • Well, Dugtrio doesn’t, but it is still useful in OU for revenge KO. (As long as they don’t have any priority of course.)

      • EarthenWarrior

        Wait are you saying Dugtrio DOESNT have Arena Trap or that it has more then just Arena Trap?

        • Doesn’t have the necessary power to back it up. 🙂

          • EarthenWarrior

            Yeah…. The only a Stealth Rocker and maybe some fast paced Earthquakes and Sucker Punches

    • Shady

      Don’t worry this pokemon looks so defensive.

  • Shady

    Is it possible to give Yowashi Power Construct ability wat u think?

    • Chaos

      No

      • Shady

        Shddup.

  • The Last Kurusu

    With this yesterday’s list is False cause Beware had no pre Evo.!!!!

    • Ultron

      Yeah, which sucks. I knew it was too fanlisty. I can’t believe there are scumbags out there who take the time to make up a bunch of fake names just for shits and giggles. So stupid.

    • The Last Kurusu

      And thier was no Ghost/Ground!

  • Ben

    Not a fan of the sandcastle…maybe it’ll grow on me? What I hate most about it, though, is that genwunners will be stapling these guys all over the Internet, “Look at how BAD Pokémon is now!”

    In my opinion though, these two are the only truly bad Pokémon that have been revealed so far 🙂 A few bad Pokémon does not define a gen.

    • Ben

      Although that Beware prevo is kind of awkward looking..

      • Ultron

        Honestly how do you fuck up a red panda. How.

        • Pharap

          Simple: make it a plush toy.

          • Ultron

            I don’t understand why the hell they made it 7 feet tall and pink

          • Pharap

            Because girls like pink and boys like fighting types. All the stereotypes covered at once.

            Personally my only issue with the form 2 is the weird headband, I can live with the pink because I like the irony.
            I don’t like its squashed first form though.

          • Ultron

            I just think they missed the target on this one. :/

    • Pharap

      I may dislike more of them than you but I completely agree with “A few bad Pokémon does not define a gen.”.

      I’m more expecting the genwunners to plaster the alolan Meowth around and say “look they’ve bastardised our wonderful children, gamefreak have run out of so many ideas they’ve realised the old ones are better and are now redoing them”.

    • Chaos

      Sandcastle is brilliant. One my new faves from this gen

  • Claus H. Luíz

    “Alolan Meowth developed after being bred by the royal family of Alola.
    Alolan Marowak developed in response to its natural predators in order to
    resist them.” -Serebii

    • Pharap

      Someone else already said that. Somewhere… in amongst the walls of text.

      • Claus H. Luíz

        And now the new readers get to know as well.

    • Ultron

      The marowak one sounds like a bullshit justification just to give it a fire stick.

      • Pharap

        I can live with the firestick, it was begging for a firestick. My only issue with it is that the ghost typing came from nowhere. I could understand it learning to breath fire to tackle grass types in the jungle or because it moved nearer a volcano, but the ghost thing implies it died.

        • Ultron

          Yeah I don’t understand that, same with ninetails fairy typing.

          • Pharap

            Aparently they class some Yokai as fairies rather than ghosts, which I don’t get frankly.

            The Ice makes sense. The Fairy doesn’t. Problem is, by not classing Yokai as fairies, Mawile should have been Steel/Ghost instead of Steel/Fairy.

            So in gamefreak’s mind, Bellossom isn’t a fairy, but Yokai are. Buncha weirdos.

          • Ultron

            Fairy type is sort of all over the place..

          • EarthenWarrior

            So let’s just bury them all

          • Pharap

            In my mind it makes sense for nature spirits like elves, and maybe gnomes, goblins or (at a push, if they don’t look spooky) treants to be fairies, but Yokai should be ghosts.

          • Wes

            It was revered by humans and that mystical quality gave it the Fairy type.

          • Ultron

            That’s weird.

          • EarthenWarrior

            A reason why Alola Forms are becoming bad

          • Ultron

            You and I are on the same page earthen. They only need them if they make logical sense.

          • EarthenWarrior

            I can partly understand how selective breeding could result in pampered and devious Meowths whom never deal with tough urban lifestyles (and not for nothing they already could learn many Dark Type moves to begin with)
            But something like a Fire/Ghost Marowak just will not cut it, they better explain the hell out of it when the official release releases

          • Ultron

            Agreed. Dark meowth I can see, marowak not so much

          • Pharap

            There’s 3 of us, we should start a club.

          • Pharap

            “I’m kind of leaning with you now because I can only explain Alolan Sandshrew/slash and Vulpix ”

            Looks like Gikie is just about ready to join the club. That makes 4 people in the “Justify the Alolans” club 😀

          • Gikie

            My shoes are already off lol I need more biological/physiological/biochemical logic to the “adaptation” that GF is using…

          • Gikie

            I’m kind of leaning with you now because I can only explain Alolan Sandshrew/slash and Vulpix

          • Gikie

            My only guess is the lore of the nine tailed fox – a fairy tale. The problem with that logic is that, if lore/fairy tales make a fairy typing, then we’d have a crap ton more fairies.

            Conclusion: I’m as stumped as you and @EarthenWarrior are

      • Psy

        Seems to have developed to defend against Bewear. Ghost immune to both STABs and Fire because of Bewear’s Fluffy ability. Also, you know, like when you’re camping you use a fire to scare animals, namely bears. Maybe that’s why he has a torch?

        • Ultron

          That’s sort of interesting

      • Aurora Fae

        honestly who cares its a fictional fantasy game it doesn’t really need to make sense, its not like half the stuff in zelda or mario makes sense but people still love it and don’t question it, why should pokemon be different, I feel like people are just looking for things to hate on tbh :/

        • EarthenWarrior

          That’s a load of crock, Gamefreak puts a hell of a lot of work in their Pokemon and they don’t just make things for the sake of making things

          • Aurora Fae

            No they don’t but they have already given you plenty of reasons as to why the variants are the way they are, its not my fault you cant accept it, pokemon isn’t real life dude, things don’t have to match up perfectly just accept it and move on

          • EarthenWarrior

            Your ignorance is unbecoming of you

          • Aurora Fae

            its not ignorance, I just know how to think outside the box unlike you

          • EarthenWarrior

            So following logic and biology is a crime?

          • Aurora Fae

            no but when you put up such a fuss about it for a fictional game that has already had things break all laws of science and logic both in the anime and the games, its pretty ridiculous, come on earthen, get a grip and move on with your life, if pokemon was just like real life it would be pretty freaking boring.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Alright clearly your chewing me out on account of your own insecurities
            I am a die hard Pokemon fanatic, a hardcore battler, a varying intelligent person for Pokemon and extremely creative designer

            Gamefreak and Pokemon have logic, end of story
            bug off,

          • Aurora Fae

            lol ok earthen you continue to think that.

        • Pharap

          Ok, if it doesn’t have to make sense, let’s just give the humans evolve too, and give them wings and swords. And they all wear goofy hats. Or better yet, the entire world is populated by clones of the same human.

          • Aurora Fae

            omfg even you should know whats wrong with that comment, just because one thing doesn’t have to make sense doesn’t automatically plunge the world into chaos jesus. Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

          • Pharap

            There has to be logic, if something as fundamental as biology doesn’t make sense, there’s no barrier to stop other things no longer making sense. It’s a slippery slope.

          • Aurora Fae

            …. did you just… slippy slope is something only crazy republican bigots ever say, now I’m inclined to think you’re just trolling.

            Its a pokemon game, LOL at you saying biology has to make sense in a game with flying magnets and living piles of goo. They adapted to their surroundings over time and so far every single one of the alolan adaptations make sense, sorry you people have a hard time with that.

          • Pharap

            I’m not even American.

            Living piles of goo exist, they’re called amoebas.

          • Aurora Fae

            I was referring to grime and mum not the duosion line, and I’m not american either, but you know what I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree, I just wish people would stop hating on things just because they don’t understand them, it gives me anxiety. well actually everything gives me anxiety

          • Pharap

            If you’re not American, why on earth do you care about the Republicans?

            It’s not a matter of not understanding, it’s a lack of information and justification. The typings can be justified, but they haven’t been completely justified yet. In comparison, they perfectly explained why Mimikyu is a walking sheet that looks like Pikachu.

          • Aurora Fae

            because they are my neighbours and they fear monger and try to destroy the lives of my american brothers and sisters, and really anyone who is not exactly like them, but I digress this conversation is going no where good so thats the last I have to say on the matter

          • Pharap

            I’m a whole ocean away so it won’t affect me 😀

      • Claus H. Luíz

        Either way, what’s wrong with that? It, in my opinion, looks way more badass than the regular Marowak. Imagine what its movepool would consist of? Especially since Marowak is physical Pokémon.

        • Ultron

          I’m a science major, when they announced they’re making pokemon go through adaptation I was excited, but I feel they’re going to abuse it. Adaptation is supposed to be to things like environmental change, and sometimes to predators, but ghost type doesn’t make sense when you put it in logical terms

  • PercyEspeon

    Real quick –
    Bewear preevo- cute
    Sand castle line – okay, prefer the evo, has some charm
    Sardine – my fav of the bunch, but it’s alright love the concept
    Alolan Meowth – Yes please yes really wanted this to happen and es perfect
    Alolan Marowak – super awesome as well wonder if Cubone changes too we’ll see
    And last Team Skull – nice finally have an evil team, so far looks nice. Like that they are hoodlums
    K bai until later 😀

  • Jamal

    Awww why not show alolan persian. Please be dark/fairy and gamefreak give me a alolan psyduck/golduck that’s water psychic(Finally!)

    • EarthenWarrior

      Ok seriously why the effing hell would a Alolan Persian be a Fairy Type
      This is why I hate Fairies so god damn much is the people constantly making everything out to be a fairy

      • Jamal

        For one the fairy type has very few pokemon represent it and they broke down the very powerful Dragon type plus with their weakness being poison that brought up their usefulness in the game. So fairy types were very much needed to help get more types shine. As for persian being part fairy just my personal opinion.

        • EarthenWarrior

          Well your opinion is wrong and I hate you

          • Jamal

            I Don’t think we would get along fairy well

        • Pharap

          Not counting the gen 7 pokemon already revealed there are 37 fairy types that make up 5.1% of all pokemon. Ghost and Ice pokemon are actually rarer than fairies. Both Ghost and ice have 35 pokemon, tying at 4.9%.

          • Jamal

            insert mimmichu and alolan ninetails

          • Pharap

            You forgot Magearna, Comfey, Cutiefly and Tapu Koko.

          • Oxenfree

            Yea, and considering my favorite typing is ghost, and we’ve already gotten 4 ghosties this gen alone, 5 if you include Marowak. I’m a happy camper.

  • Wes

    Team Skull? There better be someone with a Skuntank, Koffing, and Zubat.

    • PercyEspeon

      I would scream in happiness if it happened

  • Pharap

    Welp, conversation’s slowing down, time to troll.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpYddUYWgAAR9FT.jpg

    • Nick

      Where did this come from?

      • Pharap

        Shigeru Miyamoto on Twitter, @RealShigeruM
        https://twitter.com/RealShigeruM/status/762829579765551104
        (Psst, it’s not real)

        • Iron Man Squad

          marshadow?

        • Richard Haslam

          Though maybe fake, there maybe Alola Lugia and Alola Ho-oh on the horizen.

          • AquaticSynchronization

            ALOLA LUGIA

          • Cody

            that’s a funny lookin’ Ho-Oh.

    • Cody

      Why not MEGA Lugia? Screw Alolan forms. More Megas!!!

      • Pharap

        Eh, I got bored of megas pretty quickly.

        • Cody

          What’s wrong with you people?! You’re seriously satisfied with ONE generation of Megas???? There’s so many we still need! Mega Skarmory, Mega Winged Rapidash…. They can still change up the types of Megas too ya know!

          • Cody

            Well, if that Lugia IS real, it has to be a Mega, b/c it looks like the same type, just a little beefed-up like many of the other Megas

          • Cody

            Also… Lunatone and Solrock HAD BETTER be in these games!

          • Cody

            And lastly, I think Alolan Exeggutor would work just fine AS a Mega instead. Nothing against the Alolan forms, just don’t want them to completely REPLACE Mega evolution. How about some more regular good old evolutions/pre-evolutions too? Like not just for the first few gens (*ahem, super-strong evolved from of Dunsparce with a Mega to boot) but like Gen 5 and 6 pokemon too.

  • Pharap

    And some more Alolan Exeggutor meme, because we really haven’t had enough yet.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpRE-24W8AAMh1r.jpg

    • Wildwolf

      That was fun 😆😆

    • I am CONVINCED either Exeggcute or Exeggutor would have been “Eggshellent” if it weren’t for the Gen 1 10 character naming limit. XD

  • Pharap

    For anyone who’s interested, this disproves some of the Anon__151 reddit posts since he/she said Marowak would be Fire/Ground.

  • Armaggedon16

    Can we please get a good ice type this gen?
    I know we have Alola Forms but they don’t count. I want a proper, 3-Staged Ice type Pokemon.
    Also, I’m Tired of all these Fairies in Alola. We need more diversity,such as more Fire and Dark types as well

    • Pharap

      What’s wrong with Swinub and Spheal?

      • AlolanSandschrew

        And catalugg (?!! Spelling idk) of generation 6 i liked aswell

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        If he’s like me, those two lines are fine, but we’ve yet to get an original ice type this gen.

        • Pharap

          Ice and Dark are the only two so far if you don’t count alolan forms.

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Tell me about it.

          • Pharap

            I think gamefreak are counting the alolan forms. If you count them, all the types have been covered.

    • Aurora Fae

      none of these pokemon are fairy types though? I agree we need some more pokemon of different types and we will get them, but tbh I still want one or two more fairy lines myself 😛

      • Pharap

        Mimikyu, Comfey, Cutiefly, Tapu Koko, Magearna, Alolan Ninetales.
        Yeah, fairies are really sparse lol

        • Aurora Fae

          I never said they weren’t, just that none of the pokemon revealed today were fairies so why bring it up, fairies are bound to get tons of new pokemon with the type this gen because they are new. And tbh only 3 of those are non-legendary, I will need at least 5 lines of non-legendary fairies to be happy, so I can have an almost mono fairy team, and I think its perfectly reasonable

          • Pharap

            Armageddon’s fairy remark wasn’t about these pokemon, it was about the generation in general.

            I assume you’re not counting Alolan Nintails then, because that should be 4 non-legendary.

            New non fairy legendaries or old ones too?
            Because there’s enough lines of old ones.
            Ice is much more lacking than fairy at the minute.

          • Aurora Fae

            I know there is 4 I edited my comment to be such after I realized, also no old fairies, I don’t use old pokemon in new gens in my first play through, and yeah I’m not saying there shouldn’t be more ice or ghost types because their should but having more fairies and more ice types and such are not mutually exclusive

  • AquaticSynchronization

    Imagine Team Rocket’s Meowth going Alola forme. Scenes when this happens.

    • Pharap

      Erm… Kanto pokemon don’t ‘become’ alolan form. They are either Alolan or they are Kanto, they can’t change between the two, that’s not how natural selection works.

    • AlolanSandschrew

      The confrontation between the two meowths has Some big anime potential!

      Dont think it changes its form

      • Spetsnaz

        Yeah, the description for alolan meoth is that it was bred by royal family t land that’s how it got its typing and form changed, so it’s not something that would just happen

    • Richard Haslam

      Imagine Team Rocket’s Meowth against Ash’s Litten.

  • knightwolf09

    So is it just tradition now to have a negative reaction to new pokemon at first glance? I mean people are a bit harsh at sand castle, and Bewear’s pre-evo is a little plushie.

    • Pharap

      I dunno about other people, but sandcastle and multifish are the first pokemon of gen 7 I’ve genuinely disliked.

      • Claus H. Luíz

        I disliked Bewear and Mimikyu when they were first revealed, but have since warmed up to them. I can’t stand Gumshoos. Just… nooo. Everything else has been fine with me.

        • Pharap

          Eh, it’s better than Watchog. They always do a Furret/Linoone/Watchog/Gumshoos though.

    • Richard Haslam

      we still havn’t got the Snowman, the Sea Cucumber or the Dolphin yet, as mentioned in the chinese leak.

    • Chaos

      Sandcastle Mon is cool.

      I was never fond of Bewear in the first place and its pre evo does nothing to remedy that for me. Unfortunately

  • Team Skull eh?… Chaw-haw-haw!

    https://youtu.be/6Ho11u2fS04

    • Ithsme

      Aw, beat me to it!

    • Tev-Da-Trainer

      This game was my shit back in the day. Made me tear up a lot.

      • zess

        Glad I wasn’t the only one lol.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      First thing I thought of.

  • Iron Man Squad
    • Rockcrawdaunt

      Love. You win today.

  • Ben

    Anyone else realize that the mom in this game has a regular ol’ Meowth? Since they just moved to Alola, this basically confirms that any Pokémon that has an Alola form will stay in its original form if transferred from a previous game. It just makes sense.

    • EarthenWarrior

      No shit, it’s not that hard
      They have to be born in the Alola region to have an Alolan Form, they just don’t magically become one because entering the region

  • Spetsnaz

    Disproves the supposed full dex leak

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Huzzah, I really didn’t care :p
      I guess we don’t have a dolphin named literally dolphin in Spanish so it’s all good.

      • Pharap

        We have a Seal named Seel and an electric bird named Zap2 in spanish you’re still upset about a spanish dolphin?

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          First of all gen one was a different time second of all I’m not upset about it, It’s not even real. I’m just glad there won’t be any more complaining about it.

          • Pharap

            Klink (Clink). Klang (Clang). Espurr (Esper). Foongus (Fungus). Tirtouga (Tortuga – Spanish for turtle). Boldore (Boulder). Purrloin (Purloin).

            Rotom is Motor backwards just as Ekans was Snake backwards.

            Times don’t change all that much.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Well Clink is more of an onemonopea than a word and the rest are at least pronounced differently unlike Muk, Persian, Ghastly, Haunter, Seel, Dewgong, Electrode, Drowzee, and probably more that I can’t remember. The ones mentioned above are puns not just straight misspelled words.

          • Pharap

            An onomatopoeia is a real word.
            Espurr is pronounced the same as Esper but with a longer R, which is effectively the same rule as Drowzee.
            Haunter isn’t a real word, nor a mispelt real word.
            Dewgong is a pun on dew because it’s part water.
            Tirtouga is a misspelt spanish word.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Whatever dude, I’m not going to argue with you because we could go on all day. I believe that poor names are a lot less common nowadays and you think there still are bad names. There’s not much more to say.

          • Pharap

            No, I’m pointing out the fact that Delfin wasn’t that bad compared to some of the names already in existance in multiple generations. They could have changed the f to a ph to make Delphin, it wouldn’t make much difference, either way it still fits in.

    • AquaticSynchronization

      Still want my Bug/Dark mosquito though

  • Pho3bus

    Looking forward to seeing bigger picture of that new Marowak

    But is anyone wondering will Butterfree get new Alolan form, maybe somethings familiar that we had already seen?
    http://66.media.tumblr.com/926e88fa94dba5803ac1dd3362fe1919/tumblr_nkkuromnsx1unlgoso1_500.png

    • Richard Haslam

      Yeah, maybe we’ll see Butterfree in the anime again, with the pink Butterfree that is actually revealed of being an Alola Butterfree.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    I love the fish, I love the sand castle, I LOVE Bewear’s pre evo!!! It’s so freaking adorable!! The mouth is a little freaky tho…..I imagine it opening it is and having a set of razor sharp teeth hahaha I also love Alolan Meowth and Marowak. I’m digging Team Skull. I a get the crazy tribal thing from them. I can’t wait to see what Rockrufff’s evolution is! Then we can really get our leaks and rumors organized and decide which ones are real and which ones aren’t. I imagine the reason they announced something for the 12th officially is the fact that we got info on Team skull. The past few times CoroCoro has come out there has only been 2 Pokemon shown in it and the official Pokemon accounts didn’t announce the trailers we ended up getting. This time around we got info on actual characters. lol

  • ThatGuyWithThePokemon

    For me personally, I am a lot more forgiving of Bewear since it’s an evolution. Also, the concept of Yowashi is awesome ^-^

  • SesquipedalianPokedex

    My opinions:
    Sand castle: Cool
    Sardine: Interesting
    Little Bewear: I don’t like its mouth
    Alolan Meowth: Interesting
    Alolan Marowack: We predicted it, it’s pretty cool
    Team Skull: Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    • knightwolf09

      I think you mean Chaw-haw-haw-haw!

  • Richard Haslam

    somehow the sandcastle pokemon reminds me of this from Undertale

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbUyfbjUsAE8WVQ.jpg

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      In what way?

      • Richard Haslam

        Oh I dunno, maybe it’s the holes and the drawbridge mouth.

  • AquaticSynchronization

    My final judgment:

    Sand castle: has to grow on me
    Sardine: cute af
    Little Bewear: adorbz
    Alola Meowth: Me is cat lover, so I love all of them
    Alola Marowak: Bloody amazing
    Team Skull: Meh

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    Since you’re all dying to know another’s opinion, here I go. XD

    Bewear prevo: weird mouth that doesn’t fit it’s muzzle although I’m pretty sure bewear’s didn’t either. Glad it’s a full line (like sunny said below). Still won’t use it.

    Sandcastle: love. I’m probably in the minority but item Pokemon and cool concepts like these show the most creativity. Plus, it eats pikachu.

    Fish: reminds me of the book about Swimmy from my childhood (I said this earlier last night) and I love that. Look it up if you don’t know and buy it for your kids. :)))

    Team skull: lame name. Insterested in their motive nonetheless. Also, that Doctor brown comment made my week.

    Alolan meowth: looks odd for some reason. Can’t put my finger on it. Please make Persian a panther.

    Alolan marowak: would have liked to see more tribal markings and such. The ghost type makes sense since it’s the dead mother of cubone. But all in all its a little underwhelming for a fire type. Would have loved to see a charred mask with tribal markings or something. And brighter colors overall.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      The fish reminds me of swimmy aswell.

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        I loved that book!

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          I was fascinated by it as a kid, it’s cool to see them make the concept into a Pokemon.

    • Chaos

      I love you because you love sandcastle.

      Finally somebody with sense

    • Spetsnaz

      It would be cool if in game, marowaks markings kinda lit up a little like embers smoldering

  • charzking

    As a fire/dragon type trainer Mar-O-Wisp for the win lml

  • Vlad

    My mind is BLOWN once again. I want to play this game SO badly

  • Ithsme

    My thoughts on this info:
    Yowashi: it could be cool, but it doesn’t appeal to me personally.
    Sunabaa + Evo: The ghost type really makes this one for me. It has a cool design though I may not put it on my team.
    Bewear prevo: I don’t like it much but I don’t like Bewear either, so maybe that’s it.
    Alolan Forms: Marowak was expected, I’m interested to see the explanation for meowth.
    Team Skull: I keep thinking about the team from PMD2, I kinda wish they chose a better name. Though I wish we knew what they wanted to do.
    Rockruff: what can they mean by secret? As in a split evo, or is it just a bad wording for a regular evo?

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      They’ve been building up Rockruff for a while now. I can’t imagine it’ll have just a regular evo after all this lol

      • Ithsme

        But what would they mean by “secret” evo?

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          No idea, but I can’t see it being just it evolves at a certain level lol Maybe that one other rumor is real and it evolves by leaving it on a peak at night lol

        • knightwolf09

          Rumor flying around that Rockruff has a split evo, or at least evo that can be various types. And yes this was around before that “leaked pokdex”

  • SnappyK

    I like Sandcastle. Nothing wrong with the design at all. Same with mini-Bewear, I like it better than the evolution. Dark Meowth is cool, Alolan Marowak looks alright. Sardine looks good, but the “form change” seems too much like an evolution.

    Best thing about the CoroCoro info is that none of these new guys were in the “dex leak” from a few days ago, so it’s confirmed fake.

  • Ithsme

    Wait I just realized we have achieved team GRAMPS . . . F. Team flare ruined everything.

    • Chaos

      GRAMPFS

    • Pharap

      The sudden realisation I’ve accidentally retconned the name of the Gen 5 evil team. Dammit P.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      F GRAMPS!

    • Golden_Lucario

      Damn you Team Flare!

    • Pharap

      MG FRAPS

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    I really hope that the fish’s form isn’t dependent on HP. they seem to be doing a lot of that and I want it to be different. Idk what I’d do to make it have the form, but make it interesting at least lol. I also guess that means maybe it’ll be a one stage. I though the bigger fish was it’s evolution when I first saw it. I can’t imagine them giving it an evo if it can just turn into a big fish on it’s own lol

    • Jamal

      Maybe the form is an attack from like aegislash

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Could be. I’d like that more than after its HP drops. I wan’t to see it throughout the whole battle and don’t want to have my Pokemon’s health drop just to see it lol

        • Jamal

          Or it will only do it if you battle on or in water

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Hmmmm well either way that’s a more interesting way of doing it hahaha. All I want is to be able to see the form more than just when I’m losing lol

    • Pharap

      I’m fairly certain it is the HP thing.

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        I swear to god….lol

    • Ultron

      I bet there’s a move it uses to summon fish to it

      • Chaos

        I hope it’s like Aegislash. Single Forme for attacking and School Forme for defence

  • jk

    I like the pink haired girl design, hope she’s important to the plot. And i think the dog’s evolution, having a humanoid form (if it’s really a werewolf), it’s’ gonna be rock/fighting.

    • Pharap

      Rumour says she’s the villain’s daughter. It’s plausible she’s the champion.

      Personally I think she’s got something to do with Magearna.

      • Aurora Fae

        pourquoi??

        • Pharap

          Because one of her comments was something that sounded all pure-hearted/princessy, she’s clearly important somehow because she hasn’t been identified with a role, and there were other rumours about her using fairy types.

          Unless I’m thinking of a different character to this person.

          • Aurora Fae

            but she was just revealed and we know nothing about her yet? Are these rumours? but I mean sure if those are the rumours thats entirely possible

          • Pharap

            Oh wait, I am thinking of someone else, not noticed the ‘pink’ bit. I was thinking of Lillie.

            In exchange, I’ll translate the trainers names for you and then post them again as a standalone comment.

            The white haired guy is Boss Guzuma (Bosu no guzuma). The pink haired biker chick is Purumeri. The sign on the two grunts is something like ‘Shitappa’ or ‘Shitabba’ and then ‘dan’ which means team (i.e. Roketto dan = Team Rocket).

      • Richard Haslam

        But that’s from a leak that was proven to be fake.

        Although the concept does seem plausible.

      • nb97

        I don’t get why everyone says that Magearna will have a role in the games. It’s an event Pokémon like Shaymin, Victini and Diancie. Mythicals never had a role in the games and never will. It’s just there to be there.

        • Pharap

          In DPPl: Arcues, Darkrai, Shaymin
          In HG/SS: Arceus, Celebi.
          In RSE, Deoxys and Mew on their respective islands.

          I know pokemon keep trying to make everything download only, but we can hope they’ll add in a bit of location navigating to get an event pokemon once more.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    I guess this girl got sick of just being a punk lol

  • Richard Haslam

    Archood, Tigler, Siremaid

    These are the likely names I could guess the starters would be, based on their theme described by the chinese leaker… Archer, Wrestler and Siren.

    (Archer + Robin Hood) (Tiger + Wrestler) (Siren + Mermaid)

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      I would hope for names that were a lot less on the nose personally.

      • Richard Haslam

        me too, but that’s Game Freak for you.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          What do you mean? It’s not like the kalos starters were Wox, Froginja and Chesarrior

          • Richard Haslam

            True…

            And we did get Empoleon for one. Makes me think all along that Rowlet’s would be named after Robin Hood because of it’s design.

      • Pharap

        They’re already less on the nose than a Psychic Cat called Espurr or an electric mouse effectively called FlashSqueak.

        • Ultron

          Idk, I think espurr is kinda cool

          • Pharap

            Don’t get me wrong, Espurr and Pikachu are cool.
            I’m just saying that when it comes down to it all the pokemon’s are just wordplay and some of them are more thinly veiled than others. I’m not saying that’s a problem, I’m highlighting the fact that a lot of old names are pretty obvious/simple for all the people who have issues with some of the new names.

    • Chaos

      Arrowl
      Testler
      Siraid

  • simkenno

    Anyone watching the anime ?

    I’m loving how they are using Lysandre. He’s actually a perfect villian towards ash and co. So friendly and warming to them but so much evil behind closed doors.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      YES! It’s been great!

      • simkenno

        I’m dying for next week when we finally get Ash vs Alain. I’m just hoping Ash wins. I hope he does 🙂

        • Aurora Fae

          I hope he wins and then leaves never to be seen or heard from again

          • simkenno

            Haha I’m actually a big fan of Ash. I think it’s mainly because when I was a kid the anime just started so I’m USD to having him haha 🙂

          • Aurora Fae

            Yeah same, I still hate him though, and wish they had someone who was consistent in their battling and mind frame, its like sometimes he forgets everything he knows about battling and pokemon and is just a big derp and then wonders why he loses, but now he shouldn’t have those problems

          • nb97

            Never really hated Ash except for BW. Best Wishes was a piece of crap (sry). During the Sinnoh arc Ash was so awesome. I recently rewatched the Sinnoh league and god, he was good. I like him in Kalos too, he’s quite good. Don’t like his team too much though.

          • Aurora Fae

            lol thats funny, I actually really liked the BW anime, sinnoh was fine, I just never liked dawns design and didn’t think brock making a return added anything to it so I was kinda meh about it all, but yeah XY was good, XYZ so far looks to be like the best they have had in a long time though

          • nb97

            XYZ is certainly the most plot-heavy part of the anime so far and I like it. Episode N was something similar to this but it just didn’t feel right to me for some reason. Ash-Greninja is a very good addition in my opinion, the battles look so much more intense since it first appeared. It makes things epic.

          • Chaos

            Ash is awesome.

          • nb97

            Ash will win. The descriptions of the episodes confirm it. They probably did it because Alola doesn’t have any Gyms and they don’t know what’ll happen after that.

          • Richard Haslam

            And lose against the Elite Four I bet. Because if you let Ash become a Pokemon Master, then the show itself is out of their cash-cow mascot.

          • nb97

            Well, the known plot after the League is about Team Flare and then something more about Ash-Greninja if I remember correctly. After that, it’s a mystery. Btw, Ash could totally beat Diantha, she’s weak. Ash-Greninja is OP.

          • Richard Haslam

            Even so, he woudn’t be able to beat Cynthia.

            Well then he never had the chance after Tobias.

          • nb97

            Seriously, no one can beat Cynthia. She’s the most awesome character ever.

          • Richard Haslam

            You’re too right she is. She’s even the inspiration for Selena and her son Karius in my comic series, ‘Elzeron Chronicles’. The inspiration of it is actually what if Cynthia had children?

          • nb97

            I want Cynthia to be my mom ._.

          • Richard Haslam

            me too. X(

          • Ultron

            Well to be fair he kinda already did in a way…he was offered the opportunity to be a frontier brain, wasn’t he?

        • Chaos

          This week.
          Literally in 2 days times

          • simkenno

            Ooh nice thought it was longer !

          • Chaos

            The battle starts this week and concludes next week.

          • simkenno

            Yeah I knew it was a 2 parter. It will be amazing !

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Yeah! I really hope that too! Leave it to Pokemon to make you excited about the possibility of the protagonist winning in the end lol

    • nb97

      Lysandre is the best villain in the anime. Why the heck is Flare much more awesome in the anime btw?

      • simkenno

        Its Gas isn’t it ! They are brilliant in it haha.

        • nb97

          Anime Flare is probably tied with Galactic being my favourite evil team. Game Flare is just bland. I don’t even know the admin names except for Xerosic.

  • Ultron

    This leak is rather underwhelming, imo. The only actually cool one is the sardine and even then I think it should just be an evolution rather than a form. Good thing there’s more news coming…

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Maybe…. They might just repeat the news being this issue is supposed to come out the same day as the website update.

      • Ultron

        Well there should be more pages, right?

    • Chaos

      This is standard for CoroCoro. You think it’s underwhelming because this time around they’ve been doing official announcement with 7+ mons and info

      • Ultron

        That’s true…or maybe I’m just sad that the list turned out fake. Maybe it’ll be for the best, although I really want a dark/electric type D;

        • Gikie

          With you there; wished Quasuar was real d;_;b

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I imagine the news on Friday will likely be them talking about the Team. We got so little about them in this issue so it’d make sense for them to add a little extra info

      • Ultron

        They might. I just want to know what this southern alola info is all about

  • Green

    Oh my gosh! I love that the Sardine can call on its friends to change forms! That’s awesome!

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    So I was on Bulbagarden forums looking at the Rumor thread and apparently there’s a person on the same Chinese forum that leaked the trusted Chinese leak. It supposedly from a different person, but he’s been predicting new stuff left and right even before April. He’s been doing it through releasing hints and riddles rather than just coming right out and saying the stuff. Like one time he released a picture of a Pikachu in a tablecloth. another hint was a picture of Litleo and Zubat. Presumably hinting at Solgaleo and Lunala. It’s an interesting read if anyone wants to read what they have so far. lol

    http://forums.bulbagarden.net/index.php?threads/rumours-fakes-leaks-discussion-thread.214874/page-90#post-5938892

    • Ithsme

      Bloody organs Pokemon lol.

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        Bloody organs with scissors sticking out of them. E for everyone.

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        I know right? Lol obviously it’s part of the riddle and won’t literally be bloody organs, but it could be more of a hint in them rather than an actual physical look lol

  • Chaos

    Possible abilities for Sandcastle

    Arena Trap – boring option

    Cursed Body

    Mold Breaker

    Inflitrator

    • EarthenWarrior

      And possible moves
      Sand Tomb
      Sand Attack
      Sandstorm
      Shadow Sneak
      Recover
      Earth Power
      Maybe Shadow Punch

      • Chaos

        I see it getting the Elemental Punches. Maybe Shadow Ball if they go the special route.

        • EarthenWarrior

          Lord knows we need better Special Ground Types
          Seriously all we have is Camerupt and Nidoking and Landorus to an extent

          • Chaos

            I really hope this one is special. Mainly to differentiate it from Golurk, and also as you said we need more special Ground Types. Maybe it will force them to add some more special Ground Moves as well.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Earth Power is very limited

          • Golden_Lucario

            Just asking Earthen, but how do you like the new Sand Castle mon?

          • EarthenWarrior

            It’s alright
            I’m required by law to use it during my Ground Moon Mono, probably not going to add it to my main team

            My hope it’s a special attacker with some decent bulk

          • Golden_Lucario

            Ah ok. I kinda like how it morphs into quicksand and traps the foe, it’s a creative feature they implemented on it.

          • EarthenWarrior

            And I being the mighty Earthen, master of creativity can utilize its potential to ensure my opponents fall victim to a sandy tomb

      • Pharap

        Fun fact, Diglett can use Shadow Punch.
        gg Gamefreak.

        • EarthenWarrior

          Uhhhh no? Maybe you’re thinking of Shadow Claw

    • nb97

      Yeah, I don’t expect anything new. Bewear and Mimikyu had their abilities introduced in Corocoro (I mean their names at least) because they were new. Since there’s nothing about their abilities, I guess they’ll get old ones. Which is fine. There are already a lot of new abilities in Gen 7.

    • Poketard101

      It probably has a new ability, like “Quick Sand” or something of the like.

  • AquaticSynchronization

    In other news: Rockruff is still the best Rock type in the history of Rock types

  • jk

    The sandcastle should have one more evo (like one of those ridiculously detailed european sandcastles that some artists can do). It doesn’t look at its highest potential yet.

  • AquaticSynchronization

    The hell is this? Alola Lugia?

    • Spetsnaz

      Also the other “new pokemon and forms” I feel like I’ve seen half those on 4chan, so I’m saying photoshop

    • nb97

      That image is fake. Someone on Deviantart made that of a possible Mega Lugia. Idk why they used it.

    • Pharap

      Were you looking at that fake sign from the ‘RealShigeruM’? 😛

    • EarthenWarrior

      Fake

    • Aurora Fae

      oh my gosh, now I know for a fact a lot of the pokemon seen on this big thing are fake but omg who in their right mind would go through the trouble of making something so large when its fake, just to troll the internet, but if they really wanted to troll they wouldn’t have used pokemon designs we have seen like 1000 times before on DA and other places

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Bootleg lolol

      • Poketard101

        A store that’s trying to sell bootleg merchandise. 🙁

        • Aurora Fae

          ew

          • Poketard101

            I know.
            If you look at the bottom, it looks like they are selling actual games. (most definitely fakes. >:( ) Probably contain games that have nothing to do with Sun and Moon.

          • Aurora Fae

            or pre orders, although why they would use that cut out is beyond me

      • Pharap

        A bored Japanese guy who works for a supermarket and got put in charge of making a display for the new pokemon game.

  • Golden_Lucario

    I just saw these and I’m surprised about it, the leak wasn’t true I suppose (Aw… I wanted that Dragon/Fighting.. D:).
    Anyway, what I think about this leak. To be honest, I love that Bear pre evolution, it’s extremely cute. The Sand Castle Idea is something I’m digging (didn’t mean it as a pun) because it’s another Ground/Ghost and also as seen in the leak it can turn into quicksand and trap the foe, which is very creative. And the Alola Marowak was something to expect because of the Captain owning one, but I think it’s cool how it has a black tone with a charred mask, as well as the stick is now similar to the batons they use in Hawaiian Fire Performances.
    Really the only thing I’m disappointed about would have to be Alola Meowth, Basically it looks exactly like a regular Meowth with a different pose and a gray recoloring. Hopefully Persian looks a lot better (perhaps a panther?). And the evil team name was something I expected to sound cool, but Team Skull is something I’ve already heard in Mystery Dungeon. However, I like their motives, as they seem like regular criminals like Team Rocket.

    • Spetsnaz

      I really hope Persian is a panther, that would be amazong. And as for the team, the name could chsnge, as skull is the Japanese translation

      • Spetsnaz

        And hopefully the name does chsnge because skull is…bland?

        • nb97

          Every team had the same name in both Japanese and English. I also think that it’s lame but oh well…

          • Spetsnaz

            Darn:/ well that’s a big bummer, hopefully they’re a good team atleast. A lot of interaction in story, not some lame group that wants a Lil thing

          • Golden_Lucario

            I’m pretty sure there will be a lot of story, they are making the Island Guardians prominent to the story as well as Solgaleo/Lunala, so don’t worry

        • Golden_Lucario

          I was genuinely surprised that with all these hints towards alchemy surely the team would be like that, but as it turns out, they’re just criminals, something I like. Perhaps there’s another team, not part of Team Skull, who has an involvement with the legendaries?

  • Spetsnaz

    Somebody on facebook joked about marowak being fire ghost, the cuboness mother must have gone to hell…

  • AquaticSynchronization

    Tears

    • Golden_Lucario

      Lysandre Alola Form confirmed

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      The meaning of life revealed.

    • Pharap

      ; n ;
      Furadari (Aroora no sugata)

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    The castle is really cool. Same with Meowth. I like the sardine :3 more water types for me

    • AquaticSynchronization

      OMG ANOTHER WATER TYPE LOVER <3 <3

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Yes. Water and steel are my favorites

    • almightyumbreon

      I love the fish too! I mean just look at it!

  • Aurora Fae

    Im saying it now! Team skull are probably pirates! look at how much water we have around the region, their outfits seem very pirate-esqu and skull is just something you would equate to pirates, perhaps their goal is to basically cause havoc on all the islands and rob people and such

    • Chaos

      Yep. Definitely Pirates

    • EarthenWarrior

      Some rowdy douches who pretty much cause havoc

    • Golden_Lucario

      Yeah Team Skull are looking like that. For some reason I still believe that there’s another evil team focused on the legendaries due to all these hints towards Alchemy.

      • Aurora Fae

        they could be involved in that too, you never know, after all skull can also equate to necromancy and that kinda goes along the same lines as alchemy sometimes, also his black coat could be a lab coat I suppose, (idk)

        • EarthenWarrior

          They don’t strike me as the intelligent type, I think they’re just some group of violent crazies who pretty much want to rough up the islands to their liking

          • Golden_Lucario

            Yeah same here. Maybe the 2 teams work together and Team Skull acts like the grunts of the two while the other team has the scientists, higher ranks, and the leader of the group.

          • Aurora Fae

            have you seen the forehead on Plumerl? she’s gotta have some intelligence, her brain is clearly stretching her skull, lol jk

            But in all honesty the two main people (not the grunts) do look like they would be intelligent

    • Ultron

      Well there is a pirate lookin ship on the map

    • belmad

      I hope their motive is just to live mindless, loot things, break young girls’ hearts…etc. If that picture is the boss, gosh, I want him to be my boss too. He can break my heart and I know he won’t care. His careless thing will make me fall in love with him for more. Bad boys…always fascinated me.

      • Aurora Fae

        lol cute, I always went for the extremely good sweet and sensitive type myself.

      • Pharap

        Stockholm syndrome

  • Pharap

    Just noticed the arrows pointing the people with katakana/hiragana next to them.

    The white haired guy is Boss Guzuma (Bosu no guzuma). The pink haired
    biker chick is Purumeri. The sign on the two grunts is something like
    ‘Shitappa’ or ‘Shitabba’ and then ‘dan’ which means team (i.e. Roketto
    dan = Team Rocket).

    • EarthenWarrior

      Team Skull

      • Pharap

        I checked the translation and figured it out.
        It couldn’t have been skull, skull is Dokuro.
        As in bokusatsu tenshi dokuro-chan (Blugeon-to-death angel skull-chan).

        • EarthenWarrior

          You lost me at “I”
          But brought me back with “Bludgeon to death”

          • Pharap

            “Bokusatsu” Remember it. Love it. Claim it as your title when your opponents lay bleeding on the floor.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Mmmmmmmmmmmm

  • jk

    What if the leader of the new evil team has a meowth too and it speaks as well? So there could be a rivalry between the two of them with really funny moments. I’d really love that.

    • Pharap

      And the leader is Giovanni’s brother.
      Dum dum duuuum.

      • jk

        lol! That would be smt.

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    Don’t forget we’ll also probably get even more info in the video Friday, including these. We only have TWO Corocoro left until we get some S&M action!

    • Pharap

      “S&M action”
      With whips and bondage and… no wait, wrong S&M.

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Settle down Franziska

    • reading that “TWO Corocoro left” gave me goosebumps wow

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    This Pikachu

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      YES! EAT THE PIKACHU!!!

    • EarthenWarrior

      They probably use spectral forces to morph mounds of sand to ensnare prey so they can consume them

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Or just hide in sand and wait to come up when prey walk by?

        • EarthenWarrior

          That works too

    • Golden_Lucario

      RIP Pikachu 1996-2016

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        To be inconspicuously replaced with Mimikyu.

        • Golden_Lucario

          Meh.. I’m fine with Pikachu getting replaced. Time for Mikikyu to get the love it needs.

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    The team leader looks like professor Willow

  • charzking

    I know some people don’t see the point in renaming the alolan forms but i rather not have two pokemon with the same name in my team, So im thinking Mar-o-Wick, what you guys think?

    • Golden_Lucario

      That’s a pretty creative nickname, nice job

      • charzking

        Thanks !! 🙂

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      Creative but I would rather stick with regular names.

      • charzking

        They’re technically the same pokemon so i can see why, But in the case of having a team with two ninetales i rather have one nicknamed.

        • Pharap

          Frostales
          Bonefire (like bonfire)
          Or Marrowarmth

          • charzking

            Frostales is good and i like Bonefire lol its almost like talonflame

          • charzking

            Anything for meowth?

          • Pharap

            Erm, Meowicked?

            Or maybe Meanowth

          • charzking

            Better than anything i could think of so yea why not lol

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Kind of weak compared to your others lol

          • charzking

            Meowth is a hard one, i cant think of anything either

          • Pharap

            Meowth is a hard one because it’s not as flexible. It’s meow with a th on the end 😛

          • charzking

            Ok now Meanowth Seems more worthy, ill write this down lol

          • charzking

            Perrcursion (Persian cat+ Purr + Incursion) for the inevitable dark persian

          • Pharap

            You didn’t ask for a Persian, I could have provided one 😛

            Persombre
            Persinister
            Pershadow
            Perlevolent (Malevolant)

            Percursion works too though.

          • charzking

            I love Perlevolent, man you’re good

          • Pharap

            I’ve had a lot of practice 😛

          • charzking

            Ill keep you in mind when more are released lol 🙂

          • Pharap

            Sure.
            Snowshrew and Snowslash wrote themselves ftr.

            As for Alolan Exeggutor:
            Eleggvator 😀

          • charzking

            yea snowshrew line was easy, i have drakeggor for Exeggutor Lmaoo

  • Wes

    So we have confirmation of there being a royal family (that bred the Alolan Meowth) and something about princesses (I forget where that came from), and we have Lillie. The last queen of Hawaii was Lili’uokalani. Notice the LILI part? I believe that Lillie is part of the royal family.

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      I don’t know. Where did this come from.

      • Wes

        Corocoro stayed that a royal family bred the Alolan Meowth, and I don’t recall where I saw the information about princesses, but it’s definitely out there.

        • DefensiveBastiodon

          Oook

        • BLACK IYCE

          The princesses thing was a rumor I believe. But this is a very interesting idea! What if Lillie is one of the princesses!

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Maybe Team Skull kidnaps Lillie because she holds the key to the legendaries and you have to save her?

      • Wes

        I like that idea. I could see it happening.

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          That would make her important to the story like the site says, but also keep her form battling as she doesn’t seem to enjoy it as much lol

      • Ultron

        Too zelda-ish

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Psssh it’s such a generic save the princess trope that you can say it’s too anything-ish lol

    • Pharap

      Would somewhat fit with my (incredibly insane) idea that she’s somehow linked to Magearna.

    • Golden_Lucario

      I could see that happening so Lillie is involved with the story. `She kinda seems like the N of this Gen.

    • TheNintendoChip

      Wasn’t she forcibly overthrown by the U.S.? She might have a thing against Unova then 😛

  • Shiny EastGovnah

    im happy that the leaks are fakes

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Well the dex list and that guy from Reddit are fake anyway lol We still have some outstanding rumors that need confirmation one way or the other. Should be an interesting couple of months lol

      • Richard Haslam

        even the german distribution team email is fake also

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Well yeah, but from what I understand that was confirmed fake early in its life as someone tried to email them and got denied as it was fake lol

      • Shiny EastGovnah

        also the rumor with lille’s father

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          What was that one again? there are so many out there now hahaha

          • Shiny EastGovnah

            idk but i know that one was popular

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Oh wait the one where her dad is the evil leader? Well after seeing the evil leader I think it could still go either way, but yeah I’d lean more towards it not being true lol

    • Golden_Lucario

      I had a feeling they were fake, but even so I’m sad that a Dragon/Fighting probably won’t happen.

  • belmad

    In my opinion, two Sandcastle Pokemon are very bad. Sardine is good, the idea of gathering together is good. I don’t care for Bewear prevolution, meh. Fire Marowak is insane, wowz, that’s the best Alolan form design so far.

    I hope Team Skull has some bad boys to fall in love with, and they’re not like let’s take over the world types, but something like badass, cool, carefree, daredevil studs.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      what about the sandcastles don’t you like?

      • Ultron

        Personally I like the concept but think the design just looks bad.

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Idk I like the designs. They’re goofy with the whole gaping mouth thing lol I like the evolution more than the pre evo tho lol

          • Ultron

            They just sort of look like bad fakemon to me. They don’t look official

      • belmad

        They are badly designed in my opinion, looks like fakemon as Ultron said.

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Idk I personally like them. sure they look different, but you can say that about a lot of the Pokemon from this gen lol

      • Pharap

        Good idea drawn by 5 year olds.

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      I like the Sandcastles. They’re dangerous but derpy

      • Shiny EastGovnah

        the Sandcastles will be like voltrobs of this gen, walk over one you can encounter one lol

        • DefensiveBastiodon

          *slurp* eats you up

          • Shiny EastGovnah

            why 🙁

          • Pharap

            Because that’s what the sandcastles do. They eat pikachus.

          • Shiny EastGovnah

            oh, yea, Pikachus are gonna become ground types

          • Pharap

            ; n ;

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          I can definitely see them being on the beach and sort of like the badlands from XY….hopefully less annoying tho lol

    • Chaos

      That seems to be general consensus.

      Although my personal views are the opposite for Sandcastle and Sardine.

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    They really did get the bad designs out of the way early on *cough Drampa cough* I love these and the Sandcastle better be defensive like Cofagrigus. Or at least a strong attacker

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    So on thing I hadn’t realy thought off up until now is how the movesets of the alolan formed Pokemon will be. You think they get separate movestes or will the species as a whole get new sets and some moves will just now work better for them? lol

    • Nintendalek42

      Well it’s difficult to imagine both vulpix variants sharing the same moveset…

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        True. It definitely a weird situation they now have. From now on they’ll have to balance two sets of moves each gen when new moves come out lol

    • Chaos

      I see them as separate species, so I believe they will get brand new move sets.

  • Nintendalek42

    Wow, that list got disproved fast… I’m happy it did, It had loads of really cool stuff in it (that was an obvious flag too), but the lack of fossils was bad and I didn’t want to have been spoiled. I’m just surprised at how many people automatically took it as legit for some reason, the number of pokétubers who were saying they thought it was the legit thing especially was a bit sad IMO.

    Anyway onto those designs:

    -As much as I’ve grown to like Bewear, it’s prevo looks horrendous. It’s disproportionate head and strange face weird me out. I do appreciate that it looks more like a red panda and that it’s going for the teddy bear look, but they could have combined those ideas to produce a much better design IMO. Overall, I’m happy we got a Red Panda line, but kinda disappointed by the execution of it, it doesn’t really convey the cute awesomeness these things have in real life (though the cute but deadly idea they are going for is a nice one).

    -I really like the idea behind the sandcastles, especially their hunting strategy, but I’ve seen a bunch of better sandcastle fakemons so these leave me a little underwhelmed. I do feel the in-game models will look better though. At least they have a cool typing that the base stage’s design reflects neatly. And for those complaining about item pokémon, a possessed sandcastle that’s essentially a predatory sand blob makes more sense than a keyring fairy any day.

    -The schooling fish is a cool idea, it’s design works fine, nothing much else to say about it. Wonder if it’ll have an evo… I doubt it because of it’s form, but seeing such a small fish not evolve is weird to me.

    -Alolan meowth doesn’t do it for me atm, like other people have said it just looks like a recolour with a weird pose, though I think that’s just the way it’s art is done, so I’ll wait until I see the model to pass judgment. The backstory is cool.

    -Alolan Marowak has a nice design and a cool typing. It’s not like it was a surprise though haha. I kinda think they could have gone further with the design though, it’s a tad underwhelming to me. Hope we get dual mega-marowaks someday, with one being ground-ghost with a floating skeletal armour and parental bond, and the other with a flaming skul…

    -Nice to have a confirmation to the evil team. I like the leaders design, but I’m not a of the punk aesthetic in general at all, so that girl doesn’t appeal to me whatsoever. The grunts are ok. In any case we have so little information on their goals and motivations that it’s just impossible to judge the team’s quality at this point.

    Overall a nice leak as usual, though it’s probably the one that leaves me the most underwhelmed by the new pokémon.. But that’s not to say they’re bad at all, this gen has set the bar ridiculously high!

  • Pokemania88

    Wow good morning fellow junglers. So this is interesting… I’m not sure how I feel about team skull yet but how many leaks does this disapprove?

    • Chaos

      All of them

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Not all of them lol

        • Chaos

          But they also don’t corroborate any leaks, so if the leaks were never proven real, they are not real now. Therefore all the leaks currently stand as dispoven

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            ……semantics my friend lol

      • Pokemania88

        The Chinese leaks?

        • belmad

          No, someone posted a link down there. Chinese leak (IDK which one) hinted sandcastles before.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Just a few if I remember correctly. The list and that Reddit guy from what I see

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    someone guess the english names for this pokemon cause i need to snatch their urls on tumblr

    • Shiny EastGovnah

      I hope the pre is Cubtion, Like caution

    • Rockcrawdaunt

      I want the big castle to be called “frightress”

    • Wes

      Castlecomb (castle+ catacomb) is all I can think of.

  • Shiny EastGovnah

    so bascially we are gonna get a episode of the anime, where meowth gets painted purple to be the Royal Family meowth, that somehow ran way, Ash and CO finds hers and royal family finds out meowth is fake, ash battles team rockets, the blast off, the end

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      yup lol

  • Pokemania88

    what do you guys think of the new Pokemon shown?

    Mine goes

    – yowashi
    – sandcastle Pokemon
    – bewear’ pre evolution (I hate it)

    And what do you guys think of the new evil team?

    • Shiny EastGovnah

      I love the bear

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Double love lol

        • Shiny EastGovnah

          Im calling it Cubtion for now

      • Pokemania88

        I’m glad you like it… For some reason I’m not feeling it, but what do you think of the evil team?

        • Shiny EastGovnah

          its good, but we know their pokemon are gonna be overused

      • The Last Kurusu

        It looks cute yet Marowak has become most epic Alolan yet Meowth looks high

    • Chaos

      Sandcastle is Love
      Sardine is … meh
      Mini Bewear is …. No

      Alolan Meowth is … meh
      Alolan Marrowack is Good

      Team Skull sounds cool. Probably pirate themed

      • Pokemania88

        Yeah I love marowaks design!!! Meowth is meh. What about the evil team?

    • Wes

      I absolutely adore the sardine and will definitely have one on my team. The sand castles are alright; if I like their in-game models I’ll probably use one. Bewear’s pre-evo is creepy because of its mouth, but again, I need to see it in-game.

      • The Last Kurusu

        I like tiny form the other is weird for me

        • Wes

          I thought so too until I realized it’s just a school of smaller fish. I love the idea!

          • The Last Kurusu

            I noticed one of his fins looks like a dolphin so if no Dolphins this time we got something

    • Pharap

      Dislike sandcastle, sardine and squashed plush toy.
      Undecided about Meowth
      Marowak is good but would prefer fire/ground.

      New evil team’s boss is good, rest are meh

    • Fish is ok, I guess.
      Bewear’s prevo is adorable.
      Sandcastle is not even something to get angry at. It’s just a sandcastle.

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    i love the new pokemon!!

    *baby bewear appears*:
    http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j270/J36/fol2.gif

    • Exeledus

      bewear is the best pokemon revealed this gen though…

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      It’s cute

  • Oxenfree

    Well, next month we will have full hard proof the recent leaks are 100% real. . . That should be interesting.

    • The Last Kurusu

      Which leaks these or the full Pokedex leaks?

      • Richard Haslam

        not the dex, as that is proven to be fake.

        • The Last Kurusu

          Oh I knew that but I didn’t know if he did but these are official this was Corocoro and is on serebii already

      • Oxenfree

        The ones everyone was talking about prior to the dex. If they in fact show Rockruff has multiple “forms” or even if they show just one and hint at the rest, if the types match, it’d be pretty safe to assume everything tied to that leak is real. Granted, we may even find that out Friday if they reveal something other than these mons from CoroCoro.

        • The Last Kurusu

          Rockruff with different forms I’d like slot!

  • AlolanSandschrew

    Pokemon company: “we were joking, this is littens final evo, surprise.”

    • Chaos

      The Pokmon company haven’t revealed Littens final evo yet.

      • AlolanSandschrew

        Not officialy, but pretty much certain Whos fukking up my dream

    • Nintendalek42

      ADHHAFHAHF This is absolutely perfect. And we’re getting cancer bipedal WWE Tony the Tiger instead… Why GF, WHY? You had one job!

    • belmad

      I’m not narrow minded, I’m not a person that is close to new things but but but this is better in my opinion. I love when Pokemon are more animal, less human, especially when it’s based on animal.

      • AlolanSandschrew

        Yes I agree with u on that one. Thats why Gen1 is my favorite gen still

      • GOLD

        especially when it comes to the starters…Not everything needs to be humanoid gf……….

    • The Last Kurusu

      Love it!

    • Pharap

      If this were the real deal I’d be a happy person.

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    i love baby sand castle but fully evolved sand castle could have been polished

    • Chaos

      I just think the spade in big sandcastle looks weird.

      I mainly like that fact that the towers resemble hands.

      • Shiny EastGovnah

        i think thats the point

        • Chaos

          I know, that’s one of the reasons I like it so much.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        what i dont like its his shell mustache and how they made three doors on top instead of two

        • Chaos

          That actually doesn’t bother me at all. The moustache is not glaring, and it’s easy to see the two top doors that resemble eys, so the third one doesn’t make it look that strange. Just my opinion based on what I see in the scans.

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            i feel that the 3D model will make it look so much better. but i lowkey love them

          • Chaos

            I actually really like them. Probably my second or third favourite Gen 7 mon after Rockruff and possibly Mudsdale (not a fan of Mudbray though)

            My team may look like this

            Rowlet
            Rockruff
            Sandcastle

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            i like having fire/grass/water/ground pokemon that are dual type so my team rn is probably going to be rowlett, salandrit, wimpod, and sandcastle. i probably pick a random fairy ice dragon or dark pokemon to fill the last two spots

          • Chaos

            I don’t really have a system. I pick the Pokemon I really like, but I try to avoid overlapping weaknesses, but seriously the Rock and ground types have been pretty cool this gen in my opinion. Can’t avoid all the water weaknesses.

      • BLACK IYCE

        Spade…? It’s a shovel bruh…

  • AquaticSynchronization

    Twitter ffs

  • Pokejungleguest

    Notice on the Sandcastle page to the very left – there’s two more Pokemon that could be revealed it seems.. One with a blue claw on the very bottom and one that’s white. And there’s two brown name tags for them

    • Shiny EastGovnah

      those are the Alolan forms

    • Wes

      The claw is Alolan Sandslash.

      • AlolanSandschrew

        Oh 🙁

      • Pokejungleguest

        You’re right! And the top one looks like ninetails white tail. Thank you for clearing that up 🙂

    • AlolanSandschrew

      I think ur one to something,

      Alolan golduck?

  • Shiny EastGovnah

    gg. we are now able to catch cubone’s dead mothers

  • thegreatcarbinkle
  • Kyla Lanell Scott

    i love everything we got from pokemon, but the royal family that breed the alolan meowth i want to know more about them. Like are they the royals of the alola region or does lilie for some reason i dont know why has something to do with this royal family?

    • Spetsnaz

      Probably the actual royal family, based off the actual hawaiian royals, which were still around for a long time after it actually became a state in the US, and with lillie being such light skinned, I don’t think she’s going to have much or any connection to them

  • BLACK IYCE

    For everyone that hates the Sand castle Pokemon and sees it as GF running out of ideas I suggest you look up the Japanese concept of a Tsukumogami 🙂

    • Kyla Lanell Scott

      i for one dont hate it, i’m grateful because its a sand castle… in my country especially summer time thats what we build, and then we have contest.

      • BLACK IYCE

        And sandcastles are awesome!!! I personally think it was a really cool and unique way to make a ghost/ground type!

    • Shiny EastGovnah

      Best Designs and Unique Creative designs will always be “running out of ideas” to people

      • BLACK IYCE

        No kidding, the amount of disdain and hate towards it just runs me the wrong way. Some of those same people will make excuses for magneton and dugtrio tho
        -___-

        • Shiny EastGovnah

          yea Bewear line is simple and odd, but its simple so it fits, the sand castles are cool.

          • Pharap

            Bewear is a good design, the sandcastle is not.

          • Colton Brown

            Bewear’s design is absolutely horrendous and looks like it shouldn’t exist in the pokemon universe.

          • rhomba

            I’m still trying to get used to Bewear. It just doesn’t feel like a pokemon

          • Pharap

            Welp, I have a different opinion.

      • Pharap

        There’s ideas and there’s designs.

        Sandcastle pokemon – good idea.
        The designs presented here – bad implementation of a good concept.
        Same for the fish.

    • saw this on DeviantArt. just look at that beast <3

      • Pharap

        Looks better than the official drawing at least. Still feels a tiny bit off.

      • CelestialSpiritBoy

        So this is probably the new muk…

  • Spetsnaz

    CallING it now bewear pretty evo is gonna be named belittle

    • Shiny EastGovnah

      I like belittle but i also like Cubtion since Cub+Caution

      • Spetsnaz

        Oooh I like that one! 🙂

  • Richard Haslam

    One friend on Deviantart told me this about the Dex. I just want to see of what you think of it

    The weird thing is the dex leak has names that fit the new reveals softle, panquake, pesp and Peskool(which can be it’s forms name) still I’m gonna see if their English names are the same they probably either guess the typings or took out Beware’s pre evo to not get in trouble by Gamefreak who knows what they were thinking.

    • Rockcrawdaunt

      Peskool maybe but panquake has nothing to do with a castle.

      • Richard Haslam

        maybe, but if you look at the name closely, you might see a clue somewhere, like… (Pandora + earthquake)

        • Rockcrawdaunt

          Pandora? Like the box? What does that have to do with a castle. And why make a name that sounds so much like pancake and not have it be one.

          • Richard Haslam

            yeah that’s what I thought as well

    • Shiny EastGovnah

      nah the leak has to be fake

      • Richard Haslam

        then perhaps look at the names more closely. We havn’t gotten the picture of them yet, so there could be a chance.

        • Shiny EastGovnah

          they wouldn’t leave out one pokemon just to get in trouble by gamefreak. he would get more in trouble over the fact he could of leaked the various typing

          • Richard Haslam

            true

          • Shiny EastGovnah

            i rather have whole dex leak then a feature that pokemon can be a different type depending on the island lol.

          • BLACK IYCE

            The different type depending on the island might still be true tho… The wording surrounding Rockruff’s supposed “secret evolution” very deliberately states it as “a* secret evolution”. Possibly implying more than one

    • BLACK IYCE

      As much as I liked the leaked dex and wanted it to be real, this is pretty conclusive evidence to the contrary. Softle and Panquakes names don’t really fit and neither do their typings.

      • Richard Haslam

        yeah, I know of what you mean. Sounds to me like a pancake turtle

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Pesp evolved into Peskool, but Yowashi doesn’t evolve into its School Form.
      It’s an ability, so that kinda cancels that out.

  • AquaticSynchronization

    Alola Diglett

    • Shiny EastGovnah

      XD

    • Pharap

      The sad thing is I think Diglakitu is believeable

    • guitarcos

      The reason for its adaptation could be that the underground of the Alolan islands was too hot for the little guys, so it decided to cool off and enjoy the breeze in the clouds lol.

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    I just wanted one non-kanto Pokemon to get a new form to show that anything is possible. Just giving them to first gen Pokemon is lame.

    • Rockcrawdaunt

      Also, Megas. I need Megas!

      • Shiny EastGovnah

        Megas might be in it, just not new ones

  • Shiny EastGovnah

    i swear if Cubiton(Bewear pre) does flair its little arms trying to attack in the games i will be very upset

    • Shiny EastGovnah

      *doesn’t

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    after 15 min of staring it is official. Im a Sandcastle stan. The best pokemon. A legend in the making, Golurk is shook. Smogon is shaking on their booties.

    • BLACK IYCE

      Stan? I see this all the time but have yet to figure out what it means?

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        It means they’re turning into trash for using an uneccesary made up word

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        is based on the eminen song (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSLZFdqwh7E) is basically being a hardcore fan

    • Chaos

      Welcome to the dark side

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    The Sandcastle reminds me of Monster House for some reason?

    • EarthenWarrior

      I oddly get that

    • oh yeah me too!

  • Supposedly, what you do know, we already got another rumor. It’s about Sand Castle Pokemon losing it’s Ground type when hit by a Water-type attack. Refresh if you can’t see the picture.

    • Aurora Fae

      interesting

    • Ithsme

      That comment at the top is gold! xD

    • Pharap

      If this is true I’m more willing to accept it.

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      I will love it even more for this

    • Aurora Fae

      that would kinda be like mimikyu having its true form covered

    • Claus H. Luíz

      They say it’s not a sandcastle Pokémon, but that’s exactly what its classification really is: Shirodesuna, The Sand Castle Pokémon.
      Sunabaa is the Sand Pile Pokémon.

      • Pharap

        I think that makes it seem more legit though. Shirodesuna roughly means “that’s a castle” or “it’s a castle, isn’t it” which implies that it’s forcing people to believe it’s a sand castle, which would imply it’s actually not a sandcastle, which would imply it’s a ghost. Yay pun names

        Like how Sudowoodo is like Pseudo Wood, which means like wood, which implies it’s not quite wood, which it isn’t because it’s a rock pretending to be a tree.

        • DefensiveBastiodon

          OH MY GOD SUDOWOODO I SUDDENLY LOVE IT BECAUSE THAT NAME FINALLY MAKES SENSE OMG

          • Claus H. Luíz

            …You really didn’t know? lol

          • i also did not know about the name basis until today hahaha

          • Claus H. Luíz

            o.o
            You guys really need to check up your Poké info on Bulbapedia. That’s where I’ve learned of Pokémon name origins from different languages. I like that there’s usually a connection between names from other languages to the Japanese names.

          • Pharap

            Really? I’ve known since I was at least gen 4 if not earlier. (Bearing in mind I was roughly 7 when gen 3 was around, Probably ~12 at gen 4).

          • yeah i was also 6 or 7 when emerald was released and i was still new to pokemon back then and i only knew about bulbapedia when i was around 12 or something hahaha

          • Pharap

            You’re probably very slightly younger than me then, so fair enough.

          • yeah probably. i just turned 18 a few weeks ago lol

          • Pharap

            I started my 3rd decade of life about a year ago 😛

          • Pharap

            Dude, it’s been 4 generations and you only just got it. Delayed reaction is best reaction XD

          • Sunny

            Not when the thing one is reacting to is a knife flying in their direction.

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            YEAH LOLOL

        • Claus H. Luíz

          That’s all nice and everything, but I’m merely talking about how that person said it’s not a sandcastle when it is. Unless it has another form that reveals its “true form” when it gets hit by a Water-type attack and looses its Ground-typing, it is still a sand castle, haunted or not.

          Plus, it’s classified as the Sand Castle Pokémon. Now if it were classified as the Imitation Sand Castle Pokémon, I’d agree with it not really being a sandcastle. How would that person even know that “fact” about Shirodesuna, anyhow? Serebii nor Bulbapedia has mentioned that, so I’m guessing that wasn’t revealed in this CoroCoro leak.

          • Pharap

            All I’m saying is it’s highly plausible that it looses the ground typing.

          • Claus H. Luíz

            Fair enough, but sand is still sand when wet and the ground is still the ground when soaked.
            I’d prefer for Shirodesuna to obtain different appearances, somewhat like Furfrou. That sandcastle is looking kinda busted. We need better options.

  • Exeledus

    I’m not going to support the pokedex leak, but something doesn’t seem right. sure, they didn’t get something as obvious as a bewear pre-evo, but correctly stating something as specific as a school of fish? I guess the details of it are a bit different than the leak led us to believe though…

    • EarthenWarrior

      Are people still trying to believe in that crap?

      • Exeledus

        did you read the first sentence?

        • EarthenWarrior

          Usually never

    • The Last Kurusu

      Several have said that but good riddance to its falseness!

      • Exeledus

        yeah I wasn’t a fan either.

        • The Last Kurusu

          I kinda liked it but they could have done better than Drakid I mean come on!

    • Pokemania88

      Which leaker said a school of fish?

      • BLACK IYCE

        The name Peskool kinda implied it seeing as it was listed as water type

        • Pokemania88

          Oh got it!

    • Richard Haslam

      maybe it’s fake, maybe it’s real, we won’t know the full story until we have more info about it apart from just Japanese names.

      • Exeledus

        but at the same time they got some facts wrong. now, I know leakers do this to avoid attention, but if you are leaking the entire dex, that’s gunna get some attention regardless. they said the school was an evolution (I think) and that it was water/psychic type.

    • Ultron

      I suppose they could’ve mixed fake ones in there…but I doubt it.

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    also belmad literally predicted the tuna pokemon yesterday

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      It’s a sardine?

      • Richard Haslam

        like a game of sardines

        • Pharap

          A baby sardine

          Saw her first submarine:

          She was scared and watched through the peephole.

          “Oh, come, come, come,”

          Said the sardine’s mum

          “It’s only a tin full of people.”

      • EarthenWarrior

        I keep thinking it’s an anchovy
        Which makes me want Seafood, then seafood makes me want pizza, then the thought trails on and on until I either get a hungry or a headache

        • DefensiveBastiodon

          I had a shrimp poboy for lunch but I was ripped off and they charged me almost $20 for a shrimp sandwich

    • BLACK IYCE

      Yeah tuna and sardine are two completely different animals

      • The Last Kurusu

        The first ones a tuna chicken of the sea and the second is a sardine they are different but no harm no foul.

        • Richard Haslam

          but aren’t tuna larger than sardines?

          • Spetsnaz

            Usually, much larger yes

          • Exeledus

            WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY bigger. tuna are gigantic fish.

          • The Last Kurusu

            Yes much larger

          • Pharap

            Only if left whole, if you chop them up they fit in a can just like sardines.

          • The Last Kurusu

            Sorry stupid thing put them in wrong reverse what I said

    • Chaos

      Can I predict a Trout Pokemon and then call myself a psychic when the next fish Pokemon is revealed.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        yes

    • belmad

      When I was checking for the leaks, I saw the headline of a single fish becoming school of fish, and then I thought wow, so the leak was real. But then I saw the Bewear pre-evo and had a little moment of confusion. I guess the leaker had a lucky guess.

  • The Last Kurusu

    Does anyone else love this like me?!

    • EarthenWarrior

      Not one bit

      • Chaos

        There’s a shocker

      • Pharap

        If they’d kept it fire/ground, kept the fire red and kept the brownish colouring would you like it?

        • EarthenWarrior

          Ehhhhhh then I would just have anyone heavy water weakness and newfound Ground Weakness

          • Pharap

            Resists fire, poison, bug, steel, fairy.
            Immune to electric.
            Weak to water and ground.

            Seems reasonable to me.

    • Chaos

      Love is a strong word and should only be reserved for Sandcastle

      This is merely good.

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      I like it. Just not as much as the Sandcastle

    • Pharap

      I don’t get why they decided to do ghost/fire instead of ground/fire, but one of the best new additions without a doubt. Better than sand lumps and the fish equivalent of boolosus.

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Probably to play on the death of Marowak…

        • Pharap

          So, to play on the death of one Marowak that happened once in Kanto and never again? *genwunner conspiricy*

          Seriously though, it was just one Marowak that died. It’s not the only pokemon to ever die.

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            It’s a major event that happened in gen one and one of the most memorable. Gen 1 pandering

          • Pharap

            Frankly I’d forgotten about it.
            It was one tiny incident.

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            “incident”

          • Pharap

            “incident – An event or occurrence. A (relatively minor) event that is incidental to, or related to others. An event that may cause or causes an interruption or a crisis”

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            “small”

          • Pharap

            In the grand scheme of things, yes. The ghost could have been removed and it wouldn’t have impacted the storyline that much. All it did was force the player to get the silph scope (a.k.a. a mcguffin).

          • Daniel Cioffi

            it’s part of the pokemon, the cubone line is designed arround that story. cubones wear the skull of their dead mothers, marowak. it makes no sense in game with the breeding mechanic, but it’s still in the pokedex.

          • Pharap

            One of the cases where I think they went wrong with the lore, but I’ll forgive them because it was gen 1 and they didn’t know any better.

      • Smurphy

        The traditional fire dance it performs is used to summon spirits and channel their energy.

        • Pharap

          Dunno why that would be an evolutionary advantage, but that’s genuinely the best explanation I’ve heard so far.

          • Smurphy

            The evolutionary advantage is becoming Fire type to resist the Ice and Grass type it was previously weak to

          • Pharap

            I mean from becoming part ghost and not staying ground to be ground/fire.

      • Cody

        IDK why, but his smaller body makes it look so awkward to me, like it’d be better if they kept his old proportions.

    • Exeledus

      I like it. I’m just curious as to why Pawtion has a line under its mouth. take that away and it looks completely fine, but…. why? what is the line supposed to be?

      • The Last Kurusu

        I think it is a smile

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      is good (is not sandcastle but is good)

    • Ultron

      No. It doesn’t even look all that cool

      • Wes

        Because it’s on fire. B)

    • Ithsme

      It’s ok, I feel like the skull could’ve been better.

    • It’d be great if it didn’t look like a starving African kid.

    • Aurora Fae

      I think its pretty awesome, I think Meowth is becoming my fav so far though, its expression and design is just so great

  • Exeledus

    I wonder if alolan pokemon forms (which will hopefully not be all gen 1… hate this pandering the the pokemon company has been doing) will make passing egg moves easier?

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      I’m sick of the sucking up to Gen 1. I wish they would expand to other gens….

      • Pharap

        Alolan Bellossom. Flowers become hibiscus. Grass/Fairy. Nuff said.

        • DefensiveBastiodon

          Seriously. I would love another shark pokemon too this Gen…

          • Pharap

            A brand new shark or an alolan of our good old shark Sharpedo? Just clarifying because the root of this is about alolans 😛

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            Another shark as in a brand new one because there can’t possibly only be one shark in the vast oceans that separate the regions. Plus I need more sharks to love on :3

          • Pharap
          • Green

            I would want a saw shark or a Zebra bullhead.

          • Pharap

            Main reasons I want a basking shark is because they live on the coasts of Britain and despite looking scary, are actually harmless and eats plankton. As a Bristolian sailor once said: “Arr, don’t worry lad, ’tis only a basking shark.”

          • still waiting for a proper giraffe pokemon tbh

          • Pharap

            You mean one that isn’t a palindrome in both name and form? 😀

            I’m half and half about girafarig. I don’t dislike it, but I’d be unlikely to use it. And the tail is kind of creepy. I’m told it’s sentient.

          • yeah, like something that has a really long neck too :))) girafarig had so much wasted potential in my opinion

          • Vlad

            We got one. Alolan exeggcutor

          • Green

            Yeah. I love basking sharks

          • Shady

            When I saw Yowashi for first time I mean its transformation I thought it’s basking shark…..I am not gonna lie I like the idea.

          • Vlad

            Or have you guys ever heard of the ghost shark?? I don’t have a picture but please google this thing! It’s incredible

          • Pharap

            The film or the fish?

        • Ultron

          Okay but bellossom is basically a gen 1 pokemon..since it evolves from gloom.

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            No because sun stones weren’t “discovered” until Gen 2

          • Pharap

            It’s gen 2, there was no sun stone in gen 1.

            Fine, I’ll default to my crack ideas:

            Furret gains electric type because it moves so fast it generates static.

            Gogoat gains a new preditor so it develops a secondary poison typing to poison its prey.

            Jumpluff finally learns how to fly and becomes part flying.

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            Jumpluff is flying?

          • Pharap

            I’m going senile. And I’m only on my 3rd decade of life :C
            Oh, and I’ve been up 24 hours… woops

            I’ve ammended it.

          • Ultron

            That’s why I said basically. Of course I know it’s gen 2. And you do realize jumpluff is a flying type?

          • Pharap

            I ammended it. For some reason only 1 of the 3 people telling me that came through. pokejungle needs to fix its message update system 😛

          • Green

            But Jumpluff IS part flying.

          • Vlad

            Nobody wants new forms of jumpluff, gogoat, or furret. Ones a gimmick, one is a regional rodent, and one is a forgettable grass type. Alolan forms should be giving to popular Pokemon and fan favorites

          • Pharap

            Yeah, because Marrowak and Sandslash were totally fan favourites.

            Those were joke examples ftr, because Ultron disputed my Bellossom idea, so I made bad examples to prove it was a good example.

            Seriously though, I like Gogoat and Furret.

      • Ithsme

        I agree. We are celebrating 20 YEARS or Pokemon, not one year.

    • Pharap

      I think their egg groups would stay the same because they look the same mostly.

      • Exeledus

        but they should be able to learn different moves with their new types so passing moves may be easier in some circumstances, at least I would imagine.

        • Pharap

          From that respect, it’s plausible, but I think they’d only be introducing another possible parent, not creating entirely new chains that weren’t available before.

          Depends what GF have in mind for a move pool.

  • Claus H. Luíz

    Wild Alolan Marowak be like…

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/16ReaCKy6SE/maxresdefault.jpg

    Hawaiian fire dance.

  • Exeledus

    what is that line under Pawtion’s mouth/face? I don’t understand what that is supposed to be and why that’s there.

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      idk what it is is really bugging me

    • The Last Kurusu

      I think it’s smiling

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    i wonder if the sardine pokemon will evolve

    • Ithsme

      I doubt it considering what its second form is.

    • Green

      Well, its ability (The calling on its friends) will probably activate in a pinch. And I don’t know how they could pull off an evolution…. Actually. It could evolve into a Barracuda that calls upon it’s friends when threatened?

      • Pharap

        Not barracuda. Piranha 😀

        • Green

          But piranhas don’t school.

          • Pharap

            “Piranhas have a reputation as ferocious predators that hunt their prey in schools.” – Wikipedia

            Piranhas school alright. They swarm their prey and strip it bare.

    • ShinyXatu

      It’ll probably be a more interesting Basculin, meaning no evolution.

  • Chicolombia

    The awesome thing about the Alolan forms of Pokémon is that they make people like me reconsider using “older” Pokémon during the initial playthrough because they’re kinda brand new with new typings, abilities and moves. I would never have used a Marowak in 7th gen, but now I’m strongly considering it.

    • Ithsme

      I just wish it wasn’t reserved to Gen 1. I’m so sick of special treatment they give to gen 1.

    • Ultron

      I’m going to scour the region and kill all of the new marowaks because they’re dumb.

      • EarthenWarrior

        And I could help

        • Ultron

          Please do.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Mudsdale would be perfect

          • Chicolombia

            Mudsdale sucks

          • EarthenWarrior
          • Chicolombia

            Brony bait

          • EarthenWarrior

            So is virtually anything

          • Pharap

            So is Ponyta.

          • Best Ground type this generation

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            ALMOST as good as Sandcastle

          • Shady

            I am not sure which should I choose him or Shirodesuna.

          • Vlad

            Mudsdale design is not very aesthetically pleasing. It’s so bulky and those orange appendages are just weird. Definitely one poke I will never use

          • EarthenWarrior

            Dead to me

          • Pharap

            Apendages? Do you mean the dreadlocks or the ruffles around the feet? Both are features of real breeds of equine animals. There’s a sort of pony/donkey with dreadlocks and the ruffles are from work horses like shire horses.

          • Pharap

            I like mudsdale :C.
            Better horse than Rapidash.
            It’s a proper workhorse.

          • Ultron

            Sounds like a good plan.

      • AquaticSynchronization

        Kill all Bruxish too while you’re at it. Snap them in half and throw them in a vat of acid.

        • EarthenWarrior

          I wonder if they’re edible
          Flay the meat,
          Throw some bread crumbs, a little butter and garlic and serve with lemon juice and a hearty veggie dish and some mashed potatoes

          • Pharap

            Psychic sushi!

          • EarthenWarrior

            God I just want to go to an all you can eat sushi buffet and just eat enough to starve a whale

        • Golden_Lucario

          I’ll consider doing that, should be good for the EXP

    • charzking

      I Agree with this 100%, im just waition on my Aquanine to add to my team

      • Vlad

        People really want arcanum with to be a water type for some reason and I really don’t understand why or even how the logic behind this works. A fire type adapting to its environment makes sense to me. But a large fire dog turning into some weird amphibious creature. Would that just be samurott all over again?? There’s 10 other types I could see arcanine becoming before water

        • charzking

          I see your logic but going based off the leaks that’s what we should be expecting. I Don’t Know how they are going to say he adapted to water but apparently that’s whats going to happen.

          • Vlad

            So the leaks are proven real?? Because I don’t render seeing any of these new pokes on that list

          • charzking

            unless I’m mistaken, I thought the Chinese leak spoke about abra line being fighting and arcanine being water.

          • Yuno

            Yes that’s what the Chinese leak said.

          • Cemitério de Mamutes

            That dex list had nothing to do with the previous leaks and people shouldn’t group them as one, the one who talked about Arcanine was the one that had Oricorio leaked.

        • charzking

          Whatever he turns into I’m using regardless lol

    • Pharap

      Ironically gen 1 is the only gen I don’t tend to dip into much, everything else is fair game.

      I tend to mostly use only new pokemon for my story playthrough because they’re usually most abundant and I want to try out the new stuff, but I’ll use anything I like for competative. Appropriately IV & EV trained, with their moves and abilities already picked.

    • PumpkinBomb

      it really doesnt matter because there are more than 700 pokemon if you didnt use marwak others will…but still I like the concept

  • Golden_Lucario

    I always thought that XY was super easy. Right now I’m doing a no exp share X run, my god the level jumps are insane. After exiting Connecting cave this girl whooped my ass with a level 19 Axew spamming Dragon Rage on my Pokemon (they are in the range of level 19-15).

    • Pharap

      This is what I’ve been telling people for ages. X&Y wasn’t easy, the Exp Share mechanic made things level up 3x faster 😛

      • Chaos

        Here’s the thing. The old style EXP is share is needed to in order to avoid having to switch train….and allowing you to train up one Pokemon at a time.
        The new style EXP share is unneeded since it makes the game too easy, however it helps with EV training multiple Pokemon at once

        My solution. Have the only style EXP share until post-game, where you can upgrade it to the newer style.

        • Pharap

          I’m fine with Lucky Egg replacing the hold version of Exp share.
          Reserving it until the after game is reasonable enough though.

      • Golden_Lucario

        I know, but I thought turning off EXP Share would make it a tad bit harder and not an absolute pain to level up.

  • Shady
    • Pharap

      They’ll probably change the eye style of Dark Persian, but otherwise the colours are likely.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Ooooo oooo make the sclera lime green and the eye deep yellow

        • Pharap

          I was just thinking like lazy expression or mean expression, but yeah, eye colour mixup, sure.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Gotta say it looks slick

      • Shady

        Not bad point I think.

    • ShinyXatu

      Maybe Alolan Persian has a more special typing so they didn’t reveal it this time. Dark/Steel would be neat.

      • David Nixon

        Dark/Steel Alolan Persian Cool,If that cat goes on a one way trip to a 4x Fighting City

      • Pharap

        Dark/Normal would have been interesting. Makes it weaker to fighting but immune to ghosts.

    • charzking

      Works for me

    • AlolanSandschrew

      Might be, I do think in stead of ‘buffing’ up, it will even be more slimmed down.. More like Liepard, more gracious!

      • Shady

        We should analyze Meawoth concept and wat its based on …. being bred by the royal family , I am sure that based on something in real life cuz sound very familiar.

        • Wes

          “Queen Kapi’olani had a habit of picking up stray cats and dogs and bringing them to one of her homes or to Hale ʻĀkala (“the Pink Bungalow” behind ‘Iolani Palace which served as the private residence of the King and Queen)… Some of the cats at ‘Iolani Palace by the Banyan Tree may be descendants of cats from the reign of King Kalākaua.”

          Possibly this?

  • AquaticSynchronization

    When you press B in the middle of an evolution

    • Richard Haslam

      they don’t evolve

    • Golden_Lucario

      Even more of a nightmare than Gyarados

  • Viridi Nachure

    Welp, there goes the Pokedex leak.

    RIP Electric owl.

    • EarthenWarrior

      How would that possibly happen

      • Richard Haslam

        by evolving on Mele Mele, the electric island of course.

        • EarthenWarrior

          It is so not an electric island, it’s just an island named after a colorful

          • Richard Haslam

            but the guardian of the island and one form of the bird pokemon are electric types.

            Each Island has a type based on their color. Mele Mele, or yellow is Electric. Red is Fire, Pink is Psychic and Purple is Ghost.

          • EarthenWarrior

            And?

          • Richard Haslam

            And the Pokemon living there, or where the Captains live focus on those types. Although fake, I discovered that the different typing for Rokruff and the starters evolution are due to which island they evolve on.

          • EarthenWarrior

            That really just don’t do it for me

          • AquaticSynchronization

            Bruv you’re like David Nixon level

          • Pharap

            That’s just a rumour, not canon.

          • Richard Haslam

            yeah I suppose so

      • tortle3k

        cuz it’d be cool

        • EarthenWarrior

          That just pisses me off

        • Pharap

          Let’s kill all humans.
          Why?
          cuz it’d be cool

          • tortle3k

            These are entirely different questions and circumstances.

          • Pharap

            Let’s make all pokemon part dragon type.
            Why?
            cuz it’d be cool

          • tortle3k

            These are, again, entirely different questions.

          • EarthenWarrior

            See what happens
            Your “cuz it’d be cool” is a stupid breeding ground

          • tortle3k

            But why do you have to take pokemon so bloody seriously? Why does every design or type have to make sense with it’s lore?
            Is it not possible to have a pokemon be one type because it’d be pretty cool to some people, especially when it’s an alternate form or evolution?

          • EarthenWarrior

            Because that’s how things work

          • tortle3k

            Wow quality answer 10/10 rebutted everything I said there

          • EarthenWarrior

            Nothing happens without reason

          • tortle3k

            That’s also a terrible philosophy.

            I don’t understand how pokemon went from a game where you collect some badass creatures and make them fight other badass creatures to a game where everything has to make sense.

            Does Dragon Exeggutor make sense? Hell no. But it’s funny and cool so they put it in.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Madagascar dragon Palm

          • Pharap

            Yes it does actually. Aside from being based upon the Dracaena plant (known as the dragon palm), gaining dragon powers makes it stronger against fire, water, grass and electricity, all of which are common types, especially in Alola, a place with a volcano, lush forests and deep oceans. Exeggutor became part dragon in order to survive. Survival of the fittest.

          • Pharap

            Because if things aren’t backed by logic, the lack of logic can be used to explain more and more crazy ideas and encourages lazy writing. The more bad logic creeps in, the more they can do crazy deus ex machina stuff like “the villain was actually a robot” or “it was all a dream” or “pikachu can be any type it wants to”. It’s writing/worldbuilding 101.

          • Pharap

            Pokedex: “… The electric owl pokemon. It’s an electric owl cuz electric owls are cool and it desparately wants to be cool.”

          • tortle3k

            And who is to say Nintendo couldn’t make this work?

          • Pharap

            That’s like saying “sharks evolved into sharks because they thought being sharks would be cool”. Apart from making zero sense, it’s a paradox – a shark cannot become a shark because it thinks sharks are cool if sharks don’t already exist. Plus a species doesn’t just become what it wants, it becomes what it needs to be. Pikachu became electric because its electricity is a good weapon against other pokemon it encounters and because it can zap berries to make them more paletable, and all those other reason that fill the pokedex. Exeggutor has a long neck because of photosynthesis. These things make sense, they are building blocks, they are good writing. “Because it’s cool” is really awful 10 year old-level writing.

  • Richard Haslam

    question: Could it bethat the dex leak might possibly be an early draft?

    • EarthenWarrior

      Omfg it was just a stupid 4chan pokedex, we see hundreds of these every
      year
      Get over it

      • Chaos

        I find it funny how it happens every time. And people fall for it every time.

        Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

        • EarthenWarrior

          And I never believe them once

      • AquaticSynchronization

        I still want my Ground/Fighting gorilla and Bug/Dark mosquito

        • EarthenWarrior

          Both type combos I’ve pitched

          • AquaticSynchronization

            Yeah cause they’re incredible

    • Ithsme

      Doubt it. 😛 Leave it, it’s over at this point.

    • Shady

      Nope the leaker actually admit about his biggest lie. http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/27649536/pokedex-list

  • Sunny

    For those who watched the demo at E3. Was the gameplay footage used final? If so, and I know I am late for just realizing this now, then we can say that Pikachu does not have an Alola form because your rival is using a perfectly ordinary Pikachu. This also extends to any ordinary Pokemon we found in the wild such as Ledyba.

    • nb97

      Alolan Exeggutor is the evo of a perfectly normal Exeggcute so it’s not out of the question yet. But I don’t think that any of these would have Alolan Forms because they’re very early.

    • Ariel

      Always thought Ledian should have been Bug/Fighting so I hope so, but doubt it.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Understandable but in all seriousness Ledian really just doesn’t attribute a fighter
        Sure the Mach Punch and comet punch mittens but that’s where the comparison ends

        • Pharap

          I dunno, I think the punches are convincing. I’d prefer a third evolution to an alolan form though, so it would actually look legitimately robust instead of a small insect with gloves.

      • Vlad

        I always thought median should evolve into scizzor instead of scyther

        • Pharap

          Nah, that wouldn’t make sense. Ladybug vs mantis, different species.

          • Vlad

            Yeah but scythed is clearly based more on the praying mantis than scizzor is. I actually don’t even know what scizzors based off of

          • Pharap

            Scizor is a praying mantis with claws instead of scythes.

          • Wes

            Yeah, sounds almost as strange as a remora becoming an octopus.

          • Pharap

            I was anticipating someone pulling that one.
            If Octillery didn’t evolve from Remoraid, what other existing pokemon would it potentially evolve from?

          • Wes

            Nothing, really, but who says it had to evolve from something? It would’ve been just fine as a standalone.

          • Pharap

            Fair enough.
            Gamefreak were probably trolling on that one.
            Point still stands, out of Scyther and Ledian, Scizor is more likely to evolve from Scyther in terms of appearance. If they’d had alt forms back then, it probably would have just been an alt form because of the stats.

    • Wes

      I doubt it was final; they never show final footage until release. And Hau uses Pichu, so Alolan Pikachu/Raichu is still a possibility.

  • At least the leaks are fake, so no spoilers!
    (hopefully)

    • Sunny

      And all it took was a smaller set of spoilers to disprove it! : )

    • AlolanSandschrew

      Oh deff we Will have a lot of (fake) lists untill the release.

      Braise yourselfs! Cause the fakers gonna fake fake fake.

      • Wes

        I hope you mean “brace” instead of “braise” because I’m not fond of the idea of cooking myself. :p

        • AlolanSandschrew

          Im sorry, that is what i meant yes.

          My grammar of the english language isnt the best 😉

          • Wes

            It’s okay, I wasn’t trying to be mean. I just couldn’t resist the joke. 🙂

          • AlolanSandschrew

            Always in for a joke! And i learned something again Today on my age of 25

  • AquaticSynchronization

    After looking over at the designs a few more times, I’m actually liking the Sandcastle now.

  • Wes

    I’m hoping the sardine evolves. The article says it’s name means “weak sardine,” and from what I can remember off the top of my head, if a Pokemon name implies that it’s weak it usually evolves into something that’s not weak. The only problem is that ability. I wouldn’t be mad if it lost the ability upon evolution; it it could just a survival tactic for a weaker evolution.

  • Vlad

    I think the sand castle is probably the worst inanimate object poke of all time. Like what THE FUCK IS that?? And no I’m not just hating. The design looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old and could’ve been executed better. Just not feeling it at all.

    • Pharap

      “The design looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old” I’ve made that comment twice today already 😛

      • Vlad

        Great minds think alike

    • Wes

      I like it. I wasn’t fond of it at first because I thought it was a sandcastle, but the typing (Ghost/Ground) implies that it’s actually a ghost inhabiting a sandcastle, not a sentient sandcastle

    • Trav11111

      I would have agreed a couple hours ago, but after looking at how it’s attacking pikachu I’m okay with it (still not great). It’s not much different than grimer and muk

      • Vlad

        Muk and Grimer are sludge monsters and deserve way more credit than the living SAND CASTLE. Even if it’s just about design, Grimer and muks are executed way better

        • Chaos

          Lol nope. They literally have one colour scheme, and nothing about them is creative. One of the GF employees was walking past a toxic treatment facility and saw a pile of gunk.
          The only thing remotely interesting about them is the idea of radioactive mutation to make it a living pile of sludge. Even that’s a stretch.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Who says it’s an inanimate object?
      It’s just a Ghost that resides in coastal areas and can minipulate sand to capture prey

      • Vlad

        Its inanimate because sand castles – the thing the Pokemon is based on- aren’t living things.

        Every generation has at least one poke based on an inanimate object. Inanimate means “not biological”

        • Wes

          But it’s not a sandcastle; it’s a ghost inhabiting a sandcastle. It’s perfectly biological (assuming ghosts are considered living in the Pokemon world).

          • Vlad

            Dude chill with the technacalitys. I just said every gen has at least one Pokemon based on an INANIMATE OBJECT. Something in the REAL WORLD that’s not alive. Last gen we had a ghost sword as well as a fairy type car keys. These objects IN THE REAL WORLD, are inanimate. They aren’t alive and never will be. I know what is SUPPOSED to be but that doesn’t stop the real world inspiration which is a sand castle.

          • Vlad

            Something like rotom on the other hand IS a ghost that literally goes around possessing objects. But rotom isn’t based on a fridgerator or lawn mower the same way ghostcastle is based on a SAND CASTLE

          • Wes

            Alright, I know when I’ve been proven wrong, but it looks like I’m not the one who needs to chill. We’re both correct, but we were viewing the concept from different perspectives, and I see that now.

        • EarthenWarrior

          Blah blah blah i bet if you saw it in action you’d warm up to it

          • Vlad

            Possibly! I can’t wait for the video footage to drop

        • AquaticSynchronization

          Sand contains minerals, so it most certainly is ”alive”

          • Pharap

            Minerals aren’t alive. Minerals are things like crystals – they’re just simple inanimate chemical constructs.

          • AquaticSynchronization

            Not al minerals are chemical constructs lol

          • Pharap

            Humans are a mass of various chemical constructs.
            Your brain is a big mass of cells transmitting electricity.

            “Minerals can be described by various physical properties which relate to
            their chemical structure and composition. Common distinguishing
            characteristics include crystal structure and habit, hardness, lustre, diaphaneity, colour, streak, tenacity, cleavage, fracture, parting, and specific gravity. More specific tests for minerals include magnetism, taste or smell, radioactivity and reaction to acid.”

            The point is, minerals are not alive. Sand is not alive.

          • Gikie

            You’re making me happy with the science lol

          • Pharap

            Science + Pokemon = Happiness.

            I would like a pokemon that is capable of performing electrolysis 😀

          • Gikie

            I’m still waiting on a bacteria or legit virus pokemon. Something for my own because I’m a Microbiologist

          • Pharap

            Maybe a mutation of Pokerus or something?
            A bacteria like pokemon would definately be interesting. At the moment the closest we’ve got to that is Solosis.
            Or some new mechanic, like a new temporary status condition similar to curse?

          • Gikie

            I would love a pokerus mutation becoming a pokemon as virus have high error proved replication

          • TheNintendoChip

            Agreed. Part of the (biological?) definition of “living” is that it must metabolize. Certainly, sand does not have a metabolism 😛

          • Gikie

            But everything is made up of atoms and their subatomic particles…

            Explain? I’m curious

          • Ultron

            Then technically everything is alive because atoms make up everything.

          • Pharap

            “A chemical substance is a form of matter that has constant chemical
            composition and characteristic properties.” “Chemical substances can be
            chemical elements, chemical compounds, ions or alloys.”

            SCIENCE!

          • Gikie

            They can be pure compounds (solid or liquid) and/or ions also. Nonetheless, you’re correct 🙂

          • Pharap

            “A chemical substance is a form of matter that has constant chemical composition and characteristic properties.” “Chemical substances can be chemical elements, chemical compounds, ions or alloys.”

            ‘Pure compound’ and ‘chemical construct’ are not mutually exclusive terms. Helium and hydrogen are chemicals technically, as are (presumably) isotopes of all chemical elements/compounds.

          • Gikie

            Oh I was just using pure as isolating a chemical compound from contaminates. It does, however, still have a chemical composition because, well, everything is chemistry haha. Hope I didn’t confuse you.

          • Pharap

            That’s fine, I just usually assume purity to be implicit.

    • Chaos

      No 5 year old I know would have come up with that design. 5 year olds can barely hold a pen or colour within the lines.

      The sandcastle is brilliant cos it shows creativity. How can we make something normal and fun into something scary and dangerous.

      Read the description in Serebii. The little one is literally the manefestation a Pokemon’s grudge, whereas the larger one traps and steels the life force of Pokemon, in the process forming more of the little one. Well done Gamefreak, well done.

      • TheRece25

        Wait what. ..? 5 year olds are much more able than u assume. It doesn’t have to be a perfect drawing to resemble something.

        • Chaos

          A 5 year old may be able to draw a sandcastle, but a 5 year old would not make the towers look like arms, nor would they come up with the concept behind the Pokemon (which is all part of its overall design)

      • Pharap

        “No 5 year old I know would have come up with that design. 5 year olds can barely hold a pen or colour within the lines.”

        So it’s just like the person who drew that sandcastle pokemon?

        • Chaos

          Except the person who came up with the idea, actually came up with the idea (that’s why we are able to see it), and the colouring is within the confines of the Pokemon.

          • Pharap

            “The design looks like it was drawn by a 5 year old” Nobody but you said anything about coming up with the design.

            If we’re going to discuss the level of creativity, I’d rank it at the level of a fakemon designed by a 12 year old, drawn with the skills of a 5 year old.

          • Chaos

            So it was designed by a 12 year old, and drawn by a 5 year old. Sorry, my bad, I didn’t understand. Not sure how meaningful these arbitrary numbers are, but cool.

            Personally the drawing was able to fully convey the design and concept to me, therefore I have the impression that this is a good Pokemon.

          • Pharap

            Vanillish’s drawing was able to fully convey the design and concept of an ice cream to me, therefore …
            Garbador’s drawing was able to fully convey the design and concept of an ice cream to me, therefore …

          • Chaos

            Yes. It’s called opinion. Everyone has one. Everyone sees things differently. If the concept and design appeal to you as an individual you will like it, and you will defend your opinion when challenged.
            I find this Sandcastle more interesting than Garbodour and I always thought Garboduor was great. Vanilluxe is something I was never find of, but I know some people are.

            Also careful when copy and pasting 😉

          • Pharap

            My point was that your reasoning that a pokemon gives you a good impression just because the drawing conveying a design/concept is illogical. A drawing can convey a design/concept perfectly, it does not change the subject matter. That’s like daying “draw a lump of cow poo well enough and it will make people like cow poo”.

            You say everyone has an opinion – Vlad had an opinion, you’re the one who started disputing it, I and others came along afterwords.

          • Chaos

            Fair enough. I will accept my mistake. I was more taken aback by the manor in which he made his opinion known. And as I said its natural to defend something you like.

            And I can reverse your argument by simply saying a design done by a 12 year old or a drawing done by a 5 year old doesn’t make it a bad design nor drawing, so why use that argument in the first place…

            Personally I’m not a fan of the Bewear line, and I have made my opinion on that known, however I have refrained from arguing against people who like it.

            Sorry if I came across as defensive, but personally I liked the drawing and the design, and it has stood out to me amongst almost everything else revealed this gen.

          • Pharap

            Well, all I’m going to say is there are many of us who ~really~ don’t like the sandcastle. If any of us are going to be convinced, it’s going to be by game footage, not people.

          • Chaos

            From my experience. Once you form an opinion on something, it’s very difficult to have that opinion changed.

            Personally for me I have to see a Pokemon is two different way. Design/Concept and Competitive Viability. I can like somethings design but know it’s bad competitively, or I can dislike a design, but have no qualms about using it competitively if it’s good. A good example would be TalonFlame (poor designwise, good competitively).

  • Trav11111

    I’m now split on the new alolan forms. On one hand they’re pretty cool, but on the other they may as well be new Pokemon. Atleast they finally put real evolution in the game.

    • Wes

      I’m convinced they’ll get new Pokedex numbers and movesets and generally be considered new Pokemon because it would be easier than treating that many Pokemon as forms. I could be wrong though.

      • Pharap

        I think you’re wrong. Look at Wormadam and Gastrodon.

        Besides, there’s always a regional dex.

        • Wes

          All Wormadam and Gastrodon have the same abilites among their different forms, and Gastrodon have the same types and movesets. However, Alolan variants are confirmed to have different abilities and types (and likely different moves). It could realistically go either way.

          • belmad

            Well then it’s more like Meowstic case.

          • Pharap

            What belmad said.
            Meowstic is proof positive.
            Besides I don’t think they’d waste new numbers on them if they’ve got the same name, it’s just be more for fans to remember.
            Most fans would instinctively think “Ninetales, gen 1, first 151” not “Oh but it’s alolan Ninetales so I’ve got to go all the way to the end”.

          • Wes

            I guess that’s a pretty solid point, but I’m hoping it turns out the way I mentioned. I’ve got my PC sorted by Pokedex number, so I’d hate two have to Exeggutor with the same spot in the box. :p

          • Pharap

            How do you handle Wormadam, Meowstic, Gastrodon etc? Just catch one?

          • Wes

            I’ve got a box for forms that won’t fit in their respective boxes, but I hate how inconvenient it is. I suppose I can keep doing that with Alolan forms, but I’ll still hate the inconvenience.

          • Pharap

            Moar boxes.

            Seriously, more boxes is on my wishlist.
            I don’t trust pokemon box because it’s on an external server and it’s subscription based. I’d rather buy a device that works as a pokemon storage device that the 3DS can interface with, so I know if my pokemon go missing it’ll be my fault and I can accept it. If Nintendo Bank’s servers died and lost loads of pokemon, I’d never trust Nintendo servers again.

          • Wes

            That’s why I keep a living ‘Dex on whatever the newest game is, and another living ‘Dex in Bank. That way if one’s lost, I’ll still have the other.

          • Pharap

            I used to keep living dexes, but since I took up IV training it’s been becoming harder. I think now I’d settle for “the tools to rebuild my dex should it be required”.

            Seriously though, a little external brick that can infra-red connect to the 3DS and store pokemon. Like pokemon box, but a one off pocket sized device instead of a rare gamecube disk. Would solve so much because Nintendo wouldn’t have to keep their servers running so it would be cheaper and players would have it as a one off purchase instead of subscription. It would be cheap to make: some SD-grade flash memory and a really basic ARM/AVR CPU with an infrared thing and maybe a monochrome display for feedback, or just some lights and a simple dot matrix.

            Sorry, got carried away. I’m a programmer, these sorts of things interest me 😛

      • AlolanSandschrew

        I think they Will recieve their old number. Its still from gen1 you know. Else they must adjust everything..

        • TheRece25

          Wouldn’t that have to mean they are only available after receiving the national dex though?

          • AlolanSandschrew

            I did never pay Any attention to the national dex, only on the regional dex, so thats what i meant

          • Pharap

            Nope, regional dex will have custom numbering as ordinary.
            The point is the alola and kanto forms share the same numbers in both.

  • TheRece25

    “I still can’t believe so many people just instantly believed this shit without the slightest hint of proof or evidence. There was absolutely no reason to believe this. Sometimes people on /vp/ amaze me with how fucking dumb they are.”
    Rude. .. but he has a point. Why did we believe this? I “knew” it was fake… But the other leaks was real so gave in.
    But there were no important names attached to it.. no nothing. Just things we already knew. So why? Hmm

    • Pharap

      Leaks aren’t confirmed until they’re made canon.
      That’s why people like them, if they’re wrong it provides a sense of victory or surprise.

      Personally I marked them as unlikely but plausible because I liked the sound of some of them and some of the other leaks would have been more disappointing (here’s looking at you Tony Tiger).

      • TheRece25

        No… I don’t like them! It makes me feel like a fool! I will be more cynical next time!

        • Pharap

          The answer is to accept things as plausible when leaked, but never accept them as canon until they are proved to be canon beyond reasonable doubt (i.e. videos and corocoro).

          • TheRece25

            That’s not me though. I’m very black and white. I like to commit fully to one side. I’m bound to lose round half the time 😅

          • Pharap

            You might as well flip a coin or roll a dice 😛

    • AlolanSandschrew

      We Can always hope rece

      • TheRece25

        Awee.. that was cute. Lol. K

        • AlolanSandschrew

          Alolan sandshrew is cute yes

          • TheRece25

            😂😂😂

    • belmad

      I somehow choose to believe it for two reasons:
      1.I liked some of the ideas, genuinely wanted them to be true and didn’t want them to be lost on internet forever.
      2.What I dumped in the fake bin before always turned out to be true for all these times so I didn’t want to be the fool this time and I wanted to be proud of myself by believing it if they are going to be true. However you know…

      • Richard Haslam

        I was just hoping for Rowlet’s final form’s name to be a play on Robin Hood

        • TheRece25

          At least it’s design is. .. it’s so cool! 😄

      • TheRece25

        Lol.. at 2. True

    • Wes

      I’m just glad that Tapu Pipi isn’t real. ;p

      • TheRece25

        😂😂😂

  • Shady

    I was told u it was a red Zygarde …but no one believe me. http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470768784885.jpg

    • AlolanSandschrew

      Is it just me or is there just a little light and a lot of darkness not a new colourded zygarde

      • Shady

        really ???…..the light only Affects on one Zygarde r sure wat r u talking about.

        • AlolanSandschrew

          Not really i guess?

        • AlolanSandschrew

          Haha sorry, clicked on it on my phone.

          When i made it bigger i saw what u meant

    • Pharap

      That’s a screen filter. For dramatic scenes.

      • Ultron

        No, look at the upper picture more carefully. There’s a second Zygarde

        • Pharap

          I see that. I’m saying it looks red because they’re using a red filter to make the scene more dramatic. Like how this film uses a yellow filter to add suspense:
          http://www.robertmills.me/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/traffic-benicio-del-toro-7046010-1400-968.jpg
          Not denying the red core idea, just offering an alternative.

          • Ultron

            But it has red markings while the one opposite of it has green.

          • Pharap

            That could still be the lighting. The red light overpowering the green. The zygarde in the foreground is far enough away that the red light is not affecting it.

    • Richard Haslam

      So Team Flare have created their own evil Zygarde and have managed to take over Lumoise City, and only the real Zygarde in it’s Complete Form could stop it.

      • EarthenWarrior

        It’s not a new Zygarde it’s Z2 the second Zygarde Core

        • Richard Haslam

          created by Team Flare

          • Pharap

            If you’re thinking “Team Flare because it’s red”, please clean your brain and think again.

          • Richard Haslam

            duh! I stopped watching the anime since almost 10 years ago (rewatch from quitting during Johto), so I don’t care very much for it.

          • TheRece25

            I’m trying to keep up from the league. This season is actually good. The English voices kind of ruin it for me though. I watch subbed

          • Richard Haslam

            The company have a habit of recycling old plits for the newer audiences, so that’s why I’ve stopped watching.Once you’ve seen the original, you’ve pretty much seen them all.

            Perhaps if Ash does win Kalos and become the new Champion, and after dealing with this new problem, he’d pretty much deserves a holiday (Vacation), and what better than Alola.

          • TheRece25

            No. Not this season at least. I wish they would tbh, cuz nothing beats the naivety and brattiness of the original seasons to me. But they want Ash and Pikachu and friends to be Very Mature 10yr olds 😐

          • Richard Haslam

            13 actually in the original Japanese dub. That’s the age anyone becomes a Pokemon Trainer. Which of course is apparently the age of consent.

          • TheRece25

            Wait wut..
            No. 10. I don’t see anyone mentioning he is 13. You watched a bad dub

          • Richard Haslam

            don’t believe me? look it up!

            I think you’ll find perfectly well of why the female Playable Characters for each game has clothes that look too much to what mature people would wear, know what I’m saying?

          • TheRece25

            Lol 13 ain’t mature. I’d prefer 13 tbh

          • Richard Haslam

            well try telling that to Japan, they often do strange things over there.

            In fact there were bits in the actual anime that were cut out because of it being inappropriate, such as James having boobs, the use of guns. And don’t forget with the Cheryl and Combees episode where this notorious Meowth daydream was cut out showing the boss, covering his entire body with honey and letting wild pokemon lick him.

            Yeah, pretty much Japan if you know what I as a western person is saying?

          • TheRece25

            Actually I see… But it’s almost as if they decided to make him 10 even in Japan soon after that. No where mentions him being 13 again aside from the original jap dub. I think they decided to make him 10 even there. But no one seems to know. Everyone says 10

          • Richard Haslam

            yeah! they made 10 for the purpose of marketing it for little kids.

            Seems strange when Takato from Digimon Tamers is actually 13?

          • TheRece25

            Wait so.. even in Japan.. he is 10 as of now right?

          • Richard Haslam

            nope, he’s 13, like Misty, May, Dawn, Iris, Serena and Mallow are.

          • TheRece25

            No see… That I disagree with. Because everywhere considers him 10 only. I think they changed it. Less u can find proof for us. My Google results only mention dub

          • Pharap

            Do you have any evidence for this. I had a look around and couldn’t find any.

          • Richard Haslam

            As I said, look it up. You can’t miss it.

          • Pharap

            I checked wikipedia and bulbapedia. No mention.

          • Richard Haslam

            well from what I’ve heard he was suppose to be 13. Not only that, Ash was suppose to win the Kanto league, marry Misty, have kids, and then the next anime will focus on Ash’s kids adventure through Johto.

            Though it never went that way, it would make ‘generation’ perfect sense.

          • Pharap

            “What I’ve heard”. From who exactly? First time I’ve heard of that.

            Ash marrying Misty sounds like pure fanfiction.
            Also Johto was only set a few years after Kanto, the returning gym leaders, elite 4 and champion haven’t aged much.

          • Pharap

            I watched a subbed one whilst pottering around youtube and I was surprised how much more mature it seemed. Even if Ash used a horrible tactic that wouldn’t work in the game (it was his battle with the fairy gym leader, he used X-Scissor on a Wonder Room or something crazy).

          • TheRece25

            Lol I remember that. I don’t know if I would call it horrible.. seeing as it’s the “real world” to them.
            I wish he behaved his age more.. tbh

          • Pharap

            I just wish they’d stick to the rules of the game, or let us do what they do in the anime.

            I still think ash is older but they just don’t mention it.
            Either that or I’ll go with a crack theory: the real ash is in a coma and the entire thing is one long dream. In reality years have passed, but in his mind, ash is forever 10.

          • TheRece25

            I feel the same at times. .. 😂

          • Pharap

            Sticking to the rules of the game, letting us do anime stuff or being stuck in a coma in a dream where you’re 10?

          • TheRece25

            The first hehe.. but maybe both

          • EarthenWarrior

            Dummy, Zygarde have multiple cores (but I hypoithize only 2)

        • Pharap

          Also a reasonable explanation.

    • Red Zygarde?

      • Ultron

        In the upper picture you can see a second Zygarde with red markings

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I believed lol

    • Ultron

      Well done, Shady. This will probably be like Red Genesect and never been seen outside of Japan because Gamefreak hates the rest of the world.

  • AquaticSynchronization

    Anybody else here watching Dragon Ball Super too?

    • TheRece25

      Never heard of it. . . New Dragon ball?

      • AquaticSynchronization

        Yes its a new anime series. Its set after the events of the Majin Buu saga but before GT.

        • TheRece25

          I could never keep up with their timeline.. I just know a few faces and that I like any Dragon Ball whenever I watch it 😅

        • Gikie

          http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-book-gt-toriyama-intro/

          On the last paragraph, Akira Toriyama mentioned that GT is a side story. This indicates that GT is not canon.

          • AquaticSynchronization

            Nevertheless, its set after the Majin Buu saga but before GT because Pan is still an infant in Super.

          • Gikie

            Is she? I’ve never seen it. I only brought up the comment because it sparked a memory of GT not being canon.

          • AquaticSynchronization

            Yes she appears in a few episodes. She’s still a baby

    • EarthenWarrior

      Nope

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Waiting for the dub….I’m watching the uncut Kai on Toonami and sort of making my way up to it. I assume as soon as the English dub reaches that point Super will have been dubbed lol

      • AquaticSynchronization

        Tend to avoid Kai because it doesn’t have the original soundtrack, so it doesn’t feel the same to me.

        But at least it looks pretty!

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          That’s the only thing that’s bumming me out……The android and Cell themes were great back in the day and now the scenes with them feel a little empty. Other than that I can’t complain too much lol

  • AlolanSandschrew

    Okey.. With still a couple months to go: who has Tips of great games to play while waiting on SuMo?

    • SexyScizor89

      What systems do you have?

      • AlolanSandschrew

        Wii u, 2ds xD

        • Pharap

          Pokemon Shuffle, Pokemon Rumble (booth free with pay to do stuff quicker elements. If you don’t pay though and just take it slowly, it’s repetative and more like a habit, but it’s more rewarding when you achieve things).

        • SexyScizor89

          You could try Terraria. It’s pretty fun!

    • Ithsme

      You should try the Fire a Emblem franchise, or, if you want to efficiently waste your life away, new leaf.

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Xenoblade Chronicles X.

  • TheRece25

    Ok.. seeing as the leak was fake . . Thank Goodness!
    (Practically no fire types)
    Team:
    Togetic
    Rowlett (final evo)
    Arcanine (Alolan)

    • Pharap

      What if you can’t get Togetic?

      • TheRece25

        I always transfer it through bank lol

        • Pharap

          Wait, so if this isn’t your ‘playthrough’ team, what’s it supposed to be?

          • TheRece25

            My main and only team. I use it competitively and everything.

          • Pharap

            So in your mind you’ve already beaten the champion and made it through the story?

            Welp, in that case I’d be free to just ignore Gen 7 and stick with what I’ve already got prepared.

          • TheRece25

            Huh? I don’t understand what u r talking about

          • Pharap

            I mean usually people pick the pokemon they’re going to try to build up to beat the champion first, then worry about competative play afterwards.

            And if we’re talking competative there’s no guarantee my competative team would even use Gen 7 pokemon unless there were some strong ones I really liked. I might just stick with what I’ve got.

          • TheRece25

            The only pokemon I keep consistently is Togetic

    • Ultron

      But Dark/Electric and Dark/Bug types….. Dx

    • SexyScizor89

      But we could’ve had Bug/Dark, Bug/Ice, Dragon/Fighting and Dark/Electric if it was real 🙁

      • Ultron

        My brain told me it was too good to be true T-T but I had high hopes

        • SexyScizor89

          I was so excited for these new type combos but I let the hype get to me

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        We still could!

    • Chaos

      Who said Arcanine is gonna get an Alolan form

      • TheRece25

        The original leaker.. water type

        • Chaos

          Oh…leakers are still relevant?
          I thought we were passed that.

          • TheRece25

            Real leakers are Very relevant.. 1 fake doesn’t discredit the truths of past leakers

      • EarthenWarrior

        Some dumbass leaker, and like the gullible chumps people tend to be, they believe it

        • TheRece25

          ….. It was the actually proven correct leaker.. . .

          • EarthenWarrior

            He said Exeggutor would mega evolve
            I still don’t believe anything leaks say

          • TheRece25

            That’s not on the same list of proven correct things I read… Unless he said that directly to someone

          • SexyScizor89

            Until I see official images, I won’t believe any leaker

    • Ithsme

      What if Togepi isn’t in the region? Will you bank one up?

      • TheRece25

        I will bring my Togetic through bank I always use 😄. Hopefully the new moveset I chose for it will be good

        • Ithsme

          Don’t you like Togekiss or no? Also what if we have a period of time where sun and moon can’t use bank like XY? xD

          • TheRece25

            Nope! Lol. I don’t… I mean it’s ok… Not for me though. hehe. Plus my Togetic hasn’t lost to a single Togekiss if memory serves me correct

          • Ithsme

            Haha that’s fine. I prefer Togekiss but that’s just me. Plus Togetic has eviolite to work with, so he is pretty viable. 🙂

  • Blaze

    Rockruff has a “secret evolution.” The Starters share a secret with Rockruff. By transitive property, the starters have a “secret evolution.” 🎊 boom. What could it be? Island based? Version based? Time based?

  • TheRece25

    What are you all’s teams so far..
    (so I can plot to beat u) jk 😅
    😐

    • Chaos

      Rowlet
      Rockruff
      Salandit
      Sandcastle

      *subject to change based on availability

    • Ultron

      -Rowlet
      -Vikavolt

      Maybes:
      -Mudsdale
      -Sardine fishy

    • EarthenWarrior

      Still
      Popplio/Litten
      Rockruff
      Mudsdale

      • Ithsme

        What do you think about the sand castle?

      • TheRece25

        More ground I c

    • SexyScizor89

      Litten
      Vikavolt
      Mudsdale

      That’s it so far. Maybe the sandcastle

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      This is my current thought on a possible team, but may change depending on other Pokemon that are in the game

      Litten
      Grubbin
      Nuikogum
      Fomantis
      Yowashi
      Sunaba

      • TheRece25

        Wow 6 already? U must really like this gen

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Well again it might change, but yeah I’m really digging most of the Pokemon we got for this gen. There are only a few that I don’t particularly care for, but the build is going to keep changing all the way up to the release of the games. I still need to see what kind of other new Pokemon we get as well as Alolan forms lol

    • Ithsme

      Sun:
      Rowlet
      Salandit
      Mimikyu
      Oricorio

      Moon:
      Popplio
      Sandcastle
      Exeggutor (maybe)

      Of course this’ll change, but as of now, this is it.

      • TheRece25

        U like the pokemon that are unique most it would seem

        • Ithsme

          Yeah I guess so. xD As stupid as this sounds I dislike many fan favorite Pokemon.

    • Popplio3
      Pikipek
      Ninetales
      Mimikyu
      Lurantis

      • TheRece25

        Pretty

        • I like the elegance this region has

    • Pharap

      Groudon, Kyogre, Rayquaza, Giratina, Mewtwo, Arceus

      • TheRece25

        😂😂😂
        Make room for this gens legends too!

        • Pharap

          I’m glad to see people realised it was a joke, I was worried I’d get people spamming me with “wtf kind of team is that,so many legendaries gaaaaah” type comments.

          Seriously though, if I’m only allowed Gen 7 pokemon:

          Oricorio (fire or ghost)
          Bewear
          Lurantis (Probably my most favourite so far)
          Salandit
          Rockruff
          Komala (Seriously guys, Komala needs more love)

          I’m not picking a starter until the rest of the evos are 100% confirmed.

      • Ithsme

        Six shiny perfect IV arceus. No hacks I just got really lucky.

        • Pharap

          I’ve actually obtained 6 IV pokemon legitimately.
          Sadly it’s just 1 regular Sneasel and 2 regular Slowpoke.
          At most they might have their hidden abilities.
          Got a crap ton of 5 IV pokemon though.

    • Gikie

      Rowlet

      • TheRece25

        Lol.. yes… It’s hard to decide this gen for some of us

    • Exeledus

      Popplio evo, bewear, lurantis, ninetails

      • TheRece25

        More cute teams

      • Pharap

        +1 For Lurantis

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    So do we think we get Alolan Cubone and Persian on Friday? So far all the Alolan families have been shown off together as a whole (excluding Exeggcute as it’s a normal Exeggcute) It would be weird for them to hold off on just those two when the Vulpix and Sandshrew lines were shown in full.

    • Ithsme

      I say we’ll get something new. GF’s not stupid, they knew corocoro would leak, if they wanted to reveal the same stuff as CoroCoro in the trailer they would be released the trailer earlier.

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Well yeah I’m sure we’ll get something else too. It seems odd tho. this is the first time since SuMo was announced that CoroCoro has revealed more than two Pokemon, PLUS human beings. It makes me wonder what they’d hold onto for their trailer. lol