With the latest Pokémon Sun & Moon information, we can now say that the rumors seem to be true. Not only the Poké Riding, but at least with the leaked Starter Evolutions we can clearly see one of the Trial Captains in the art, and the final evolution of Litten is probably holding two of its middle evolutions.

4chan Rumor

For now these are going to be de-confirmed since a number of Pokémon listed appear not to be getting an Alolan form

  • The anime’s Ash-Greninja will appear in the game
  • Alolan Rattata & Raticate are Dark-type
  • Alolan Butterfree is Bug/Psychic
  • Alolan Abra, Kadabra & Alakazam are Fighting-type
  • Alolan Nidoking & Nidoqueen are Poison/Fighting-type
  • Alolan Growlithe & Arcanine are Water-type
  • Alolan Doduo & Dodrio are Fighting/Flying-type
  • The previous versions of Pokémon which have taken on new forms will only be accessible by bringing in from older games
  • Furfrou gets new styles
  • New cat Pokémon varies in type and appearance based on breeding
  • There is a new snowman Pokémon line with two stages and it is Ice/Ghost
  • Not to get hopes up, but there may be two final evolutions for each starter

Chinese Rumor

  • There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokémon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island
  • The final starter evolutions will be an Archer, a Wrestler and a Siren
  • The diamond stones will be collectible throughout the region and act similarly to Mega Stones but not exactly
  • New Pokémon based on a dolphin, sea cucumber, snowman, mushroom and a rugby monkey are there
  • Rockruff’s evolution is a Werewolf
  • Mashadow, another copyrighted Pokémon name, has a very unique type combo

<3 PJ

FEATURED DISCUSSION: Request-a-Trade

  • LittenItUp

    I’m sad and confused right now..

    • Hasan Ilahi

      WHO CARES?!?! WE GET A FRICKIN DOLPHIN IVE WAITED MT WHOLE LIFE FOR THIS MOMENT

      • LittenItUp

        Haha, I hope for ur sake it’s worth the wait and not a let down 😉

  • I still am shocked they will go whole Siren at us with Poplio. Seems like this will be the first gen I won`t go with Water or maybe I will but give him an everstone after the first evolution.

    So birdy it is for me. I guess

    The weird thing is that they released Mallow with all this information floating around, guess they had no choice.

  • Lucario King

    This is so exciting.

  • Guess I gotta pick Popplio as my starter instead of Litten. 🙁

  • NOOOOO. If lween litten evoles into that low T cell best I will not be happy

  • SexyScizor89

    The fire guy Kiawe is supposed to have a marowak. Fire-type Marowak confirmed?!

  • libra

    Not going to lie, I’ve already grown with these starters! Their not too bad. I’m quite sure that Litten will be a Fire/Dark Type tho. Anyways, here’s some info from the Jap Trailer.

    – Hala gives you the Z-Ring to use Z-Moves.
    – This does debunk my theory, but the gems you get depend on type.
    – Hala uses three Pokemon, so I assume he’s the first Kahuna you fight.

    Also, it seems like you meet the Trial Captins outside of their “Gyms”. So, that means there will be some personality and potential story use to them similar to Gen 5. Lasty, S/M are the best looking games in the series by far! rf.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      I love how in the part of the trailer the second picture is of, there is just a random Tauros walking in the background.

  • Lollipopzombie666

    umm looks like it’s gonna be rowlet for me since littens evo sucks and popplios looks way too girly for my taste…

  • EarthenWarrior

    MY BRAIN CANNOT COMPUTE ERROR ERROR ARRRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH AAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHGGHGGGHHHGGH…….
    please reboot EarthenProgram27.exe……or return to manufacturer…..

  • still do not know what to feel <//////3 good thing Rowlet's final evo is good 🙁

  • NintendoPlayer

    Just what I was looking for! It’s insane that all these leaks are coming true!

  • Reece

    So much information that I had to watch both the Japanese and English version of the info!
    I’m actually growing more to like these starter evos, they’re gonna look even better in game I know it!

  • Chaos

    Totem Pokemon Predictions:

    Island 1 – Gumshoos
    Island 2 – Rockruff Final Evolution
    Island 3 – Lurantis
    Island 4 – Mudsdale

    • LittenItUp

      I guess so yes

  • Galemcaedus

    Ash-Greninja appears in the game, what how?

    • Natsu

      They just add ’em in there through coding and such. ;D

      • Galemcaedus

        But is it just AG or the transformation mechanic?

        • Natsu

          In the anime it seems to be a temporary transformation and if they in incorporate a stamina gauge, then it should be fine.

  • Wes

    “Minior’s core will change color depending on the particular color of the debris it has absorbed. Its pastel coloration has a cute look, so this Pokémon is often used as a design motif for clothing and accessories.”

    New clothing confirmed.

    • PercyEspeon

      Minior is just here trying to be fabulous 🙂

  • There’s one thing the leak got wrong though. “Ninetails (Fire/Fairy)”

    Well hold on to your butts, not everything there is 100% confirmed!

    • Wes

      Like 90%.

      • Probs, but I’m expecting the types of the alolan forms to be inaccurate but everything else to check out fine.

    • TheNintendoChip

      The Chinese rumor also stated that the island leaders would be fought after travelling to each island, which is false.

    • LittenItUp

      typo?

      • I doubt it, chinese for Ice isn’t very close to chinese for Fire.

    • Ithsme

      The mechanic was spot on though, and it wasn’t something obvious.

  • TheHipsterRowlet

    I think I might use the alolan Vulpix/Ninetales in these games. It’s SO gorgeous. I mean… look at this fanart 😛 *refresh*

    • RaichuKeaton

      I’m deff using it on my team :3

    • Natsu

      Gorgeous!!! <3

    • CoolGlaceon

      Already?! Wtf people work fast

      • TheHipsterRowlet

        I know right? It’s amazing how they can draw this fast!

      • Claus H. Luíz

        It’s gotten to a point where I’m not really even surprised anymore.

    • EarthenWarrior

      ARTGHHHHHHH
      EXCADRILL IRON HEAD NOW!!!!!!

  • Richard Haslam

    I knew it! My predictions are correct! The anime ‘IS’ going to be a reflection towards Diamond and Pearl, just like X and Y is for Advance. For it’ll be Mallow who will have Rowlet (female trainers get the bird starters), whilst Ash will get both Litten and Popplio. Which then later on, Litten would eventually evolve into Panthster, who would then act in a similar disobedient fashion to Charizard. I knew those final evolutions are real.

  • Chaos

    Everyone asking for Ice Pokemon
    …well you got four

    Still no Dark Types though…

    • EarthenWarrior

      Technically 2

      • LittenItUp

        nope. four.

  • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

    If this is true, it means I get to raise Nidoqueen again but under a different typing. She was my childhood favourite. I’m so happy I could cry xD

  • RaichuKeaton

    Omg! I feel like Ice Ninetails is a dragons worst nightmare! Lol! Also so these Pokemon have different types I assume they’ll have access to different moves

  • André

    ARCANINE WATER TYPE?? WTF

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Think of how MAJESTIC that BEAST will look~!!

  • Natsu

    S/M anime: Ash creates the Alola League and the anime ends and a new one begins, announcing the beginning of a new era of Pokemon.

  • EastGovnah

    well we are also might get a fire Cubone line/ or just marowak

    • RaichuKeaton

      Maybe it’ll have a flaming stick to twirl fitting with the Hawaiian theme

      • EastGovnah

        or its gonan be like primal

  • almightyumbreon

    I wonder why they didn’t show Exeggcute?

    • RaichuKeaton

      They did…?

    • TheNintendoChip

      They did in the Japanese trailer

    • EastGovnah

      because its 6 eggs on a stick

    • Wes

      It might have the same form as from other regions. Eggs don’t really evolve much aesthetically.

    • libra

      It stays the same. It’s in the JP trailer.

  • CoolGlaceon

    With Alolan variants, will Pikablu finally be a thing?

    • Natsu

      Surfing dat wave!

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Marill being an Alolan Pikachu confirmed.

  • Ultron

    Honestly it doesn’t make any sense that lurantis isn’t a bug type. It’s based on an orchid mantis which mimics the look of flowers to cloak itself…so it should basically be like sudowoodo, where it isn’t the type that it’s trying to be. Fail. Also, I’d expect a few variations of that pokemon.

    • RaichuKeaton

      Maybe it’s the opposite, a plant trying to look like a mantis lol

      • Ultron

        Ehhh I doubt it

      • PercyEspeon

        This actually might be what they were going for 🙂
        Or that it’s been acting as a plant for so long, it became one

    • Natsu

      I forgot when typings in Pokemon began to make sense majority of the time… ;P

      • Ultron

        It just bothers me..!

        • Natsu

          I know. But we kind of already have Leavanny so it would be redundant imo. And I don’t like that 4x fire weakness.

          • Ultron

            Well it could’ve just been pure bug. There aren’t too many of those. It’s a better type than pure grass anyway

          • Um, but there’s tons of bugs…

    • libra

      We just got a palm tree that is Grass/Dragon! What did you expect?

      • Ultron

        Actually I think the dragon type comes from the Madagascar dragon tree

      • Vlad

        Lmfao, yeah anything could happen at this point. Shits about to hit the fan y’all

    • Claus H. Luíz

      Think of if this way: Instead of the bug mimicking the plant, the plant is mimicking the bug. Therefore, Formantis and Lurantis are Grass-types mimicking Bug-types.

      • Ultron

        I still don’t think that was their intention

        • Claus H. Luíz

          I think so. Game Freak isn’t all too literal with their Pokémon designs. They’re been known to put little twists on things.

    • Vlad

      We’ve honestly gotten so many bugs already, that I don’t even care. Plus I know all never use anything so shrilly on my team so I can let this typing fail slide.

      Now that my initial shock of all this is over. Im really dissapointed in the final starter evolutions. I know some of you love them but I’m really like my pokes to be aesthetically pleasing before anything and these three don’t cut it for me. However I’m warming up to the idea of still using littens Evo but only if it’s not a fighting type. Dark I would love but if it’s fighting as its design I plus I’m gonna cry. Mermaid pop olio isn’t bad either tbh, but it’s just an extremely jarring transformation. I’ll use it in Sun when I play as a female character.

      But now I’m more so concerned with why ice/steal sandshrew is still called SANDshrew

  • libra

    Yet again, I’m not sure that HMs will be returning, which I’m ecstatic about. It’s about time majority of them were removed! The image shows a special Pokeball and device that allows you to use the rideable Pokemon. I’m assuming it acts as a PC and you call upon them at any time!

    • Daniel Rojas

      Where did you get this HQ picture?

  • Galemcaedus

    New S/M info due for August 12th, confirmed by Serebii on Twitter.

    • Natsu

      I think we’ll need a batch if revives to even make it that far.

    • PercyEspeon

      I can’t handle all this, GF keep doing it, but I might faint with all this madness xD

      • i literally had a headache right after watching the trailer :<

    • ShinyXatu

      Wow, I can’t believe they announced it already. More new Pokemon are coming soon, although I feel content already 😛

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      Already?! I’m not complaining though, but I don’t know if I’m going to able to handle all of this haha

    • libra

      Stop. My heart can’t take much more!

    • TheNintendoChip

      CoroCoro’s news, I guess

  • EastGovnah

    August always had reveled something big

    • CoolGlaceon

      True. I remember that day when Megas were leaked.

  • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

    So can we fiiiinally have that tropical Orange Islands Vileplume with the spots on its petals? Maybe make it grass/fairy?

    • EastGovnah

      Pink Pokemon

  • EarthenWarrior

    Ughhhhhhhhhhh at least I have Mudbray….

    • CoolGlaceon

      Unicorn Alolan Fairy type variant

      • EarthenWarrior

        Why would they’re be an Alolan variant when they already friggin live there

        • CoolGlaceon

          …… Shhhhh the Fairy types have come to take over

    • RaichuKeaton

      Don’t fret, I’m sure there will be more ground types

    • Galemcaedus

      Dude we can ride our Ground horses!

    • EastGovnah

      how mad would be u be if Alolan Ryhorn line became Fairy

      • EarthenWarrior

        It will never ever happen

        • EastGovnah

          well we never thought variants would be a thing

          • Vlad

            Never thought exeggcutor would be a dragon but here we are, tail head and all

        • Chaos

          Remember Pink Rhyhorn from Orange Islands

  • Moonlight Marble

    Is anyone Elle worried this gen may have less battles in the story line ( like with leaders or elite 4 or equivalents etc, )

    • libra

      Yet again:
      4 Trail Captians
      4 Kahunas
      Elite Four
      Champion

      • Moonlight Marble

        Will there be a champion and elite 4 though?

        • Ithsme

          I doubt it. There will be something equivalent but since there is no league, then no.

      • TheNintendoChip

        I think the problem comes from this quote about the Island Trials: “These trials are not limited to battling with Pokémon.”

      • RaichuKeaton

        I feel like a lot of people missed that their would still be 8 trainers that’ are basically gym leaders

    • Ithsme

      Not really. I welcome the change.
      The kahunas sound like tough battles, and I’d rather have tough battles than a lot of weak ones.

      • I bet Hala is only the first leader (possibly 2nd “gym” in case his fight comes after the first trial) which is why he only has 3 Pokemon… I’d hope the other leaders and trial guys have more than that.

        • Ithsme

          I hope so. Only 3 Pokemon is the most ridiculous rule.

    • Natsu

      No because from what I’ve seen, there seems ti be even more battles! We have the totem Pokemon of each island, the island captains if each island, and then the kahuna of each island. And that’s just the first part! Plus, Alola is known for its love of battles and fhe unique ways of incorporating them into their culture.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I don’t think there will eb less battle. I think they are just adding extra stuff to do. It’ll be way more interesting rather than just barreling through a gym one battle after the next. Hopefully more fun too! lol

    • Green

      Yeah…

  • Moonlight Marble

    I love Alolan Ninetales. Do you think it will be any good in battle ? Do you think Alolan firms will have different stats ?

    • libra

      Yes! It’s a Ice/Fairy! The stats will differ likely between the Pokemon.

  • Galemcaedus

    Alolan Ninetales might just be the best thing I have ever seen

  • LittenItUp

    so… if these leaks are true I have some hope left for Litten

    • Galemcaedus

      Cant have my Litten bae bipedal

      • LittenItUp

        and ruined, it needs to be saved with the day version of the final evo. The wrestler is so ugly it has to be the night (dark room) version

  • EastGovnah

    hm thinking about it since Alakazam could be getting a fighting type form. Would that megas are not gonna be in it or will his mega also get a retyping ?

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    YA BOOOOOOIIII!!!! I never doubted them lol I really hope Litten’s evo isn’t fighting type, but the designs themselves are totes amazing!!! lol I can’t wait to actually have a brand new adventure that we have never had before!! This gen is gonna be the best yet! lol

    • RaichuKeaton

      Ike I’m pumped

    • EastGovnah

      Littens final is rumored to be fire/dark and i think it makes sense because it holds alot of pride and pride is a sin

      • CoolGlaceon

        Litten’s final evolution design is a sin

        • EastGovnah

          its not that bad. It grew onto me alot.

        • Vlad

          Littens final evolution looks like it just escaped from Rikers

  • Moonlight Marble

    It’s funny I actually as a kid used to dream of a Ninetales that would go from ice type to fire type with overheat and reverse with another ice type move… Doesn’t make much sense but it’s amazing how that dream has come true! ( in a way…).

    • RaichuKeaton

      Honestly I used to think of an ice type Ninetails when I was a kid too (I saw it’s shiny form and was like, what if..)

  • TheNintendoChip
    • EastGovnah

      hm maybe the new badge case thingy lol

    • So Gym Badges, just with no gyms…

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        I think you need to open your mind friend. The gyms are still there. they’re just not quite the same. A gym challenge is where you go around challenging different skilled trainers at their respective home base. this is basically that, but now we get to do extra stuff instead of just battling.

        • TheNintendoChip

          Basically this. I welcome the change, given that I’m more of a puzzle oriented person myself 🙂

    • Natsu

      These remind me of King, Diane, and Meliodus from 7 Deadly Sins! Especially the 2nd, corpulent guy he reminds me a lot of King.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Don’t say that name in my presence………

        • Natsu

          Why?

          • EarthenWarrior

            It hurts too much……..

          • Natsu

            I’m sorry. :C

          • EarthenWarrior

            Diane……💔

    • libra

      I noticed that. I thought it might act as badges. We still have a Trainer Card. So, I assumed so.

    • David Nixon

      Numbuh 55’s Alola Form-Fire

  • PercyEspeon

    That Sword Dance animation tho (in Japanese trailer during the Oriocorio part) <3
    Not too much of a change, but I like it better than the 6th gen animation

    • libra

      It’s that good lighting engine! 😉

  • Green

    Why couldn’t they just leave Litten as a Quadruped? ;~;

    • ThatGuyWithThePokemon

      Rightt!? Gah! You got me started! xD T.T

    • CoolGlaceon

      The same company that made Samurott a quadruped, I stopped questioning them a long time ago

  • simkenno

    I’ve been a fan of the games since the originals came out all those many years ago when I was just a kid.

    Today was the first time I have been truly shocked by what Pokemon have done, and I absolutely love it. This is a fantastic breath of fresh air and something I thought would never ever happen.

    New Pokemon. Old Pokemon. New typing New designs. It just doesn’t get better.

    Alola here I come. 🙂

    • Strawberry_Pocky_Moose

      you could almost say this series is…evolving!

      (I’ll see myself out)

      • Get outta here! 🙂

        But seriously, a lot of cool stuff is happening.

    • EastGovnah

      gimme my Seel variant
      #GiveSeelSomeLove

      • PercyEspeon

        Seel is amazing <3 If that happened I might cry in happiness

        • EastGovnah

          Make it Rock/Fairy idc make it useful and adorable

      • Daniel Rojas

        HAHAHA, already seeing that little guy in avatars. Cool!

      • Rewby

        I appreciate how they are focusing on making every pokemon unique and have variety as well as their desire to make your trainer experience have more potential and variety as well.

    • Lucas Biermann

      i wish i could play pokemon moon when it is selling =/ they dont sell 3DS here on Brazil anymore and it will cost me too much to get one legally =/

      • Are you sure? My Brazilian friend just bought a new 3DS after her old one broke. She’s a huge Nintendo fan, though I do know she has a lot of trouble getting games and customer support.

      • XxpUssy_d3stTr0y3rxX

        Vê no mercado livre, você encontra 3ds por menos de 600.

    • InklingSethO

      OH…MY GOD. A PERSON WHO STARTED WITH THE ORIGINALS…WHO ISN’T AGAINST EVERYTHING AFTER TOGEPI. THIS COMMUNITY IS IMPROVING SOMEWHAT

    • They really are going all-out for the 20th anniversary. =]

      I was 9 when Pokemon came out, and I treat all generations equally…my (very long) list of favorites covers every single one. 😉

  • Super Mario RPG crossovers, anyone?

    Mallow? Let’s go?

  • Galemcaedus

    Like I predicted back in February, I expected Sun and Moon to be revolutionising the franchise, and I was spot on.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I’m so happy it’ll be different. The games have been good up until now, but the whole system has gotten stale. If they go back to them after this then fine, but this is definitely a breath of fresh air lol

    • Wes

      I’m glad they’re making old Pokemon relevant again without megas. However, I’m sure genwunners are hating today.

      • PercyEspeon

        Don’t expect anything less with ‘genwunners’. I’d think anything at this point would be fuel for their hate really.

        • Wes

          True, true. Why do they even hang around to pester the true fans anyway? Just go home and replay Red for the thirtieth time.

          • PercyEspeon

            People like that exist everywhere for everything. I’ve just learned to ignore them. Blindly hating things won’t get you far. 🙂

  • ThatGuyWithThePokemon

    “Sun & Moon news is due to come on Friday August 12th”
    And just like that I’m thirsty for more xDD

    • EarthenWarrior

      Or maybe earlier….

  • EarthenWarrior

    3 more months left

  • Natsu

    The trial captains ooze SOOO much character and demand of attention… I cannot with this game! The amount of pure perfection bundled into S/M is honestly…. unable to be expressed with human words.

  • André

    Where is the MEGA?

    • EastGovnah

      Most likely wont be in sun and moon by the looks of it

    • Wes

      Maybe post-game?

    • TheNintendoChip

      I doubt they’re going to be a thing now. Otherwise Mega Exeggcutor would exist!

    • Set to Jet!

      Probably post-game/next update.

  • Wes

    I could totally see Lurantis becoming a mascot here or on the forums. It just seems right up PJ’s alley.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Yup I’m sure he’ll love them lol

    • ShinyXatu

      How about “Lurantis Learning” to teach the more complicated aspects of Pokemon such as battling?

  • Galemcaedus

    Ugh every reveals screws up my intended team for the 1st playthrough. How the hell can I squeeze Alola Ninetales in there.

    • It’s not over yet. There will be more Pokemon to screw you over.

      Enough to make you want to do a second playthrough or a sub team. <3

  • EarthenWarrior

    I just need to know the Ground Fighting and Rock Z-Move

    • Chaos

      Mantle Overload
      Fist of Doom
      Boulder Bash

  • EastGovnah

    Gumshoos looks like hes about give us the weirdest speech

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    TOOOOOOIIIS lol

  • Natsu

    We stand here today, in honor of our fallen brethrens whose brain circuits could not comprehend nor contain the immense amount of information received on the first of August, 2016. We feel your pain, we suffer from your loss, and may you rest in pieces as we all await for Judgement Day: August 12th.

  • EarthenWarrior

    So if this is real….then I can’t use Popplio…….
    Litten
    Rockruff
    Mudsdale
    Maybe Bewear

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Were you even planning on using Popplio anyway? hahaha

      • Chance of it being water-fighting.

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Ah hahaha

        • EarthenWarrior

          My body wasn’t ready

      • EarthenWarrior

        I wanted to use Popplio…

    • I’m guessing Pops will be Water-Ice.

      The colors add up.

      • EarthenWarrior

        If it doesn’t become a Fairy I might stomach it

        • I have a motive for not wanting it to be Water-Fairy.

          HEH HEH HEH.

  • Galemcaedus

    Rumour has it that Gumshoos intends to build a wall around Alola

    • PercyEspeon

      Gumshoos please xD

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      OMG hahaha

    • EastGovnah

      its rumor Gumshoos hates Kalos natives

    • Natsu

      Shoo the Gumshoo away and let him be weary of Bewear.

    • TheNintendoChip

      Is that what the barricaded city is on the 3rd island?

      • ShinyXatu

        Yes, yes it is.

      • Galemcaedus

        Lel

      • PercyEspeon

        Oh no, it’s already happened.
        I wonder if he got a small loan of a million dollars to build that?

    • MAKE ALOLA GREAT AGAIN

  • Water Pupper

    When was the newer info part of the older leak? Was it a bunch of stuff that came from the same leaker at a later date?

    • ThatGuyWithThePokemon
      • Kung-fu Ostrich

        Ah, thanks! I wonder if other generations will get new types mons, not just the first gen. Or if their stats stay the same?

        Also, your link says that Ninetales becomes fire/fairy. I’m sure that doesn’t make it any more or less credible, but I suppose the fact that Ninetales was mentioned at all gives it some merit.

        • ThatGuyWithThePokemon

          Im hoping their stats get a bump because Ninetails and Sandslash in question have pretty mediocre stats.

          • PercyEspeon

            I just read the site info on Sandshrew and Sandslash, and it says they are slower than their Ground-type counterparts, so stat changes will happen 🙂

  • LittenItUp

    “SHINY VULPIX… oh wait.. darn u GF” changed the whole game again, now I need to pay even more attention to the differences

  • Richard Haslam

  • TheNintendoChip

    These Alolan variants actually make a lot of sense. If the originals can’t be found in-game, you can transfer them from the virtual RBY

  • Green

    Ahhhhhhhh! I’m so confused!!!

    Ok, for starters, I’m picking Rowlet (heh. For STARTERS)
    How could Growlithe and Arcanine become WATER TYPE?!
    What’s up with all these Alolan ‘Delta’ types?(I will call them that)
    AND I REALLY HOPE YOU ONLY HAVE ONLY ONE RIVAL WHO PICKS THE STARTER THATS WEAK AGAINST YOU CUZ I DON’T WANNA BE LOOKING AT THAT NON-BIPED…. THING EVERY TIME I BATTLE MY RIVAL.

    • So you’re on team Popplio, eh?

      • Green

        No. Team Rowlet. I want my Rival to pick Popplio. I have nothing against Popplio, I just prefer Rowlet.

        • Well it you pick Rowlet, Hau will be packing Popplio.

          I wonder if there’s even another rival picking up the other, “strong” starter.

  • libra

    Tomy International just reveal the Z-Ring toy. This you will interact with the games and react when you use Z-Moves! This is not required to use Z-Moves in the games! The images show how all the Z-Crystals will look in the games. Also, the Z-Ring could only hold six Z-Crystals.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Barf Ground is just 3 wavy lines

  • Galemcaedus

    By the way Oricorio’s Sensu forme is right up my alley

    • TheNintendoChip

      Baile and Sensu pls
      I really hope they evolve — I might just ditch Pikipek for one of them

      • Galemcaedus

        Pikipek is the best bird since Pidgey tbh.

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      I love all of them TBH. It’s so cute haha. I have a slight preference towards Pom Pom and Sensu though 😛

    • PercyEspeon

      Really feeling the Sensu, Baile, and Pa’u ones, although Pom Pom is great too

  • Natsu

    I’ve never done a rotation team where I rotate through several Pokemon in a single playthrough… but I feel like S/M might have just made that mandatory! How the hell am I supposed to choose 6 Pokemon when every single Pokemon revealed thus far I want in my team?! I really hope you get have to change Pokemon in your party at your leisure through Rotom’Dex.

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    Im confused since it says that you have to transfer old pokemon to get the new forms, yet the main site says they are native there. This may not all be true!

    • Rockcrawdaunt

      Oh nevermind, they meant the previous versions.

      • Yeah because if I guess, they’re bred here in Alola, they’ll be Alolan forme, but imported ones stay the same.

  • isatrap

    Other fyre-fight plese nitendo try other combinations!

  • Wicked Omega

    Water type Rapidash would be a fun idea. Think Hippocampus :3

    • Natsu

      Or the water horses Poseidon creates! O_O

      • Wicked Omega

        that’s the Hippocampus 😛

        • Natsu

          I have failed. I accept my sentence, whatever it may be.

    • PercyEspeon

      Yes please <3

    • EarthenWarrior

      A big fat water hippo

      • Wicked Omega

        Soo.. Water type Hippowdon?

        • Ultron

          That needs to be a thing.

          • towelgirl21

            It is in real life

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      O M G YES JUST YES
      I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT

  • Ultron

    Oricorio is basically Volcaronas mortal enemy…OMG does this mean we could maybe get an alolan Luna moth form of volcarona!? Please, please, pleeeease

    • Natsu

      YASSSSS! I would put a gif but I’m on my tablet and waiting in the dentist office so… :C

      • Ultron

        I would too but I’m at work on my phone :/

    • EarthenWarrior

      Hold up this is what I’m afraid of
      Some of these make sense, I don’t want this to breed free cards to change any Pokemon into a Alolan variant

      • Ultron

        Yeah, it could get out of hand. But I think this one would be justified 🙂

      • EastGovnah

        Seel is a must

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      I would die if that was an actual thing. *refresh*
      I need a Luna moth SO BAD <3

    • It’s probably Volc’s best ally too in doubles… 😀

      • Ultron

        Omg true. I must harness this power!!!

  • Galemcaedus
    • EastGovnah

      its duck face tail is the best thing since slice bread

      • TheNintendoChip

        I love it (refresh for pic)

    • Green

      I’d that really Executor?

      • Galemcaedus

        Yes

        • Green

          I kinda like that one.

          • Galemcaedus

            I dont get the Dragon typing though, but GF have done something similar with the Flabebe line and more recently Comfey.

    • Natsu

      Wait for Wailord………… #toobig

      • EastGovnah

        Exeggutor is the ridley of pokemon

  • Michael A. Lozoya

    This is gonna be awesome, especially in the cartoon. He’ll be traveling and interacting even more with characters who’ll eventually become gym leaders. This is awesome.

  • Galemcaedus

    With the addition of Oricorio, I hope we’ll get new dance moves too 🙂

    • Sunny Mahmud

      Tierno would be happy XD

    • Natsu

      Seeing as dance is a big thing in Alola, wouldn’t surprise me one bit.

    • In before Tierno moves in.

      Oh and the Z-Moves things, they’re already dancing.

      • Wicked Omega

        Tierno returns in Sun/Moon and becomes a gym leader? That’d be nice, since we’re making a league and all, for characters of previous generations to come over and take a Gym leader spot. After all If the Kahunas become the E4, and the Trial leaders become Gym leaders, that’ll leave 4 gym spots open 😛

        • What if he’s the champ. 😮

          Nah, too farfetch’d.

          • Wicked Omega

            All kidding aside, would be nice to have some characters from past gens return. Some were severely underutilized IMO :S

          • Well the leak says some… more utilized characters… are appearing…

            “Looker, Cynthia, Blue, Zinnia, AZ, and Lance all make appearances”

    • Ultron

      As long as the queen dancer can get them. Y’all know who I’m talking about 😉

  • Quimet

    There were yesterday new leaks which source seems the same as chinese source: http://i.imgur.com/20Srvjs.png

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I don’t believe anything from vp anymore. I’ve used up my one get tricked for free card and now I’m done lol

    • Kevin the sea cucumber

      A lot of those seem neat, but we’ll probably have to wait until that’s verified by official info.

  • Natsu

    Waiting at the dentist office has never been so easy LOL

  • Tev-Da-Trainer

    Alolan Arcanine is a water type?!? OMG 😱

    • Gikie

      I remember that! Holy smokes *heavy breathing*

  • RaichuKeaton

    I am physically crying right now, the past two days have just been so great, first I got to get my copy of the cursed child and read through that, then we get all this amazing info that I never knew I wanted but holy heck did I ever! (so pumped for S/M) and now I get to take my nephew fishing later! So much good in just two days XD

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      OOOOO how’s the cursed child?!?!? lol

      • RaichuKeaton

        Beyond amazing!

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Interesting. I feared that as it was a sequel of sorts it wouldn’t be as good. lol

          • RaichuKeaton

            me too, but boy was I wrong

    • Ultron

      As a huge HP fan, I haven’t picked it up. I’m afraid.

      • RaichuKeaton

        well my friend, all I can say is, don’t read any spoilers, there is too much crazy stuff in the book that you need to experience first hand, and its all so amazing

        • Ultron

          I guess I’m just worried the script format will affect my enjoyment of the story.

          • RaichuKeaton

            I was too, but after the first few pages I didn’t even notice, its very able to be read just like a novel 🙂

          • Ultron

            I’ll probably pick it up soon then. I don’t want to be left out of the loop for too long

  • jk

    It’s official, GF digimonized pokemon completely. lol!
    At least they’re trying really new stuff, which is already positive by itself, right?

  • simkenno

    Anyone else think Hydro Vortex is a seriously gorgeous looking move ??

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Gorgeous move with a lame name hahaha. Esspecially when compared to Gigavolt Havoc and Bloom Doom hahaha

      • simkenno

        Hahah truth

  • EastGovnah

    I recall the rumor list of these having a fire/fairy vulpix.

    • Gikie

      Yes, for Ninetales, among others.

      • EastGovnah

        so this list above could most likely be fake

        • TheNintendoChip

          Possibly. But, it could also be a red herring.

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          they got that one thing wrong…..every other detail basically matches up….for all we know it was a tiny mistake….

          • EastGovnah

            eh true. but remember some leakers like to throw in fake stuff to throw people off and stuff. Example the Smashboards leak

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            This is also true lol

          • EastGovnah

            its like put alot of real things but add some fake things. its because people will expect the other things and not get it. so this list could have some thrown ins

        • Ultron

          Perhaps they interpreted the info wrong. Or that was early concept and it changed.

  • Galemcaedus

    Jokes aside about Gumshoos, I actually like its design. Usually not too fond of Normal types (except for Lopunny and Teddiursa) but I might actually use Gumshoos in my playthrough.

    • EastGovnah

      it looks like its pissed at the world

      • RaichuKeaton

        *donald trump* 😛

      • Galemcaedus

        Yeah like me

    • Gikie

      Naming it Drumpf

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        That IS his real last name after all lol

  • Sunny Mahmud

    Anyone mind re-linking the leaked info please?

  • Gikie

    Orange islands had trials…..

    Orange….Arange….Alalange….Alolange….Alola

    Boom

    • Galemcaedus

      Orange Islands had five gym leaders, no trials.

      EDIT: 4 gym leaders, Drake functioned as the ”champion”

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        They were basically the same. Do some tasks and then have a battle lol

        • Ultron

          Actually there weren’t battles, just trials.

      • Gikie

        Shoot the bottles? Make an ice sled? Race said sled?

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      OMG it’s been there all along!!! lol

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    (Put this on the wrong article) A few things:

    Gumshoos might have a resemblence to DT, but I really don’t think that was intended. Nothing in his bio stands out as having relation to him.

    I LOVE THE BIRDS. I want them all.

    Minior- LOVE. I wonder if it changes color or if I have to catch each one. -_-

    Lurantis- surprised its not grass/ bug. Not like we needed another, plus it would also have a strong resemblence to leavanny.

    Mudbray: exactly as expected.

    New forms: I dig them so far. I dont want just gen 1 pokemon to get it however.

    Call me skeptical, but we still dont know if every single leaked pokemon is real. The starters sure are, but thats about all we know for sure. Leakers have only gotten portions right before.

    Also, I think its safe to say that HM’s are gone since you can call on the riding pokemon whenever you want to fly, break rocks, etc.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Gumshoos’s attacks
    Your Fired
    Build a Wall

    • ThatGuyWithThePokemon

      Gumshoo will have a female gender variation who can learn
      Snatch Speech

      • Ultron

        Got herrrrr

      • EastGovnah

        and Delete Emails

    • CoolGlaceon

      The Totem Gumshoo calls upon an ally!
      Gumshoo’s wife appeared
      Gumshoo’s wife used speech plagiarism! It’s not very effective!

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    It’s like Gen 1 and 2 combined it’s so weird. Gen 1 Pokemon being reimagined but everything looking so different feels like Gen 2. I’m disappointed about the gyms but here’s to post game content and a great story

  • Superpikachu14

    Water Growlithe and Arcanine… That sounds amazing!!!!!!

    • EarthenWarrior

      Not for me, they’re annoying without being a Water Type

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    also THE BIRDS I LOVE THE BIRDS

    • TheNintendoChip

      You’re a Hitchcock fan too?

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        That movie pissed me off because of the ending tbh. Also they only attacked people when they smoked so I think the birds were trying to save people from cancer.

        • Tell me what the title of this crazy movie is… this has to be watched, now.

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            You seriously haven’t heard of The Birds?

  • Reece

    This new leak about Rockruff and the starters having multiple final evolutions sounds quite fun tbh. I mean I’m gonna have all 3 starters on my team hopefully so I can’t wait for all the dual typing coverage I’ll have access to. Gonna need those extra 5 days to plan my ingame team carefully haha

    • Sunny Mahmud

      I wonder if the multiple evos for the starters means that we won’t be seeing a 3 stage starter set this time around?

    • RaichuKeaton

      I would love multiple evos that would be so cool

    • I predict that you will fail, give up, and decide you need 2 teams and 2 playthroughs.

      • Reece

        Well if I get both sun and moon, then Starter team a and starter team b possibly, so many combinations and variations if it’s true and I’m so excited. Don’t think I’ll use any Alolan variants however since they’re not new Pokemon

  • Galemcaedus

    Is it just me, or shouldn’t Lurantis be dual Grass/Bug? Might be biased cause I love Bug types XD

  • EarthenWarrior

    I’m going to take a walk…..I think I’m having a stroke……please remember to walk the refrigerator……….*thud*

    • Ultron

      Fairy/water rhyperior please.

      • I disapprove. 🙂

  • libra

    “Lurantis is the Totem Pokémon of Lush Jungle, the site of an Akala Island trial. It will overwhelm trial-goers with the powerful combos it unleashes with the Pokémon allies it calls.”
    I believe that Gumshoos is the Totem Pokemon of Melemele Island. Also, this reveals the name of the Lush Jungle and the potential second island of Akala!

    • PercyEspeon

      At least we know one in-game location name 😀

      • PercyEspeon

        Like, I don’t mind the island names, but an actual location name within the islands ^^

    • It’s not that each island has a totem pokemon, each *trial* does.

      • RaichuKeaton

        I thought it said each island had a totem, guess I misread

  • PitogoXD

    Someone can explain to me if this is true?

  • Green

    http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/

    I just saw this and now I understand the Variant types. It’d just like how a species exists in two different place, but are different in both places. I thought they would just change the type and not the design, but that’s cool that they changed the design too. Also the Pokémon in this region are so confusing…. So many different forms and Cores and whatnot.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Darwinism at it’s finest lol

      • Wicked Omega

        And they said Pokemon didn’t teach kids about evolution 😛

  • David Nixon

    I wonder what Lurantis reminds me of?

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      Mantis??

    • Leavanny?

      • David Nixon

        hmm good idea.

  • vinz

    Really new cool things, but the starters unfortunately still are a huge problem. I fell like GF has completely given up on starters since 3 gens ago. These ones look sloppy and too far from the “let’s simplify things” speech. Especially the water one, that is basically a bad joke.

    • RaichuKeaton

      So sorry you don’t care for them, hopefully there are some pokemon in the region that suit your fancy so you have something cool too.

      I love the starters, especially the water one (might be my fav ever) but I understand some people do not

      • vinz

        On the bright side I’m really enjoying the other pokemon they showed so far. So it won’t be a big loss after all.

        • RaichuKeaton

          thats awesome 🙂

    • Ultron

      They’ve been meh since after sinnoh

    • libra

      I expected conflicting opinions. People were arguing before about feminie and masucline looks in species. I honestly have already grown with these starters. Rowlet’s my favourite, but the others aren’t bad. It’s something new! Yet, opinions will vary, but they do have a bunch of personality!

    • Stanley

      Personally I like them.

    • zess

      Maybe poplios final Evo just has a major gender difference?

      • vinz

        It’s possible, they’re doing really different stuff this time.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    So is there actually any credence this two evolution thing? I don’t think it was in the original Chinese leaks nor in the extra leak that supplemented it. Where did it come from? An don’t tell me VP lol

  • At least I get my Snowman Pokemon. After 3,000 years.

  • PitogoXD

    the starters have two evolution thing?? OMG

    • libra

      Ugh. There are two evolutions for starters as always. These are the final evolutions!

      • PitogoXD

        ooh i thought there will be a female and male

  • Mono Water game!

    * Popplio
    * Bruxish
    * Wimpod
    * Arcanine

    Who’s next? (There’d better a Lotad, Shellos, Palpitoad or Barboach somewhere…)

  • zebstriker

    Noooo Littens evolution is real! Seriously?

    • PitogoXD

      well it looks like its real dude

  • RaichuKeaton

    WAIT!!!! WHAT COLOUR WILL THE SHINIES OF VULPIX AND SANDSHREW BE!!!! I hope vulpix is black and that sanshrew is not yellow (it would like like pee)

    • Nintendalek42

      An igloo made from frozen pee… Noice

      • RaichuKeaton

        Bergmite was yellow so I never went shiny hunting for it 😛

        • DefensiveBastiodon

          Lol I accidentally found like two or three shiny Bergmite so I used them as trade bait

          • RaichuKeaton

            should have named them Pissicle and then traded them 😛 (JK)

    • ShinyXatu

      Oh man, I want to hunt for a shiny Alolan Vulpix.

      • RaichuKeaton

        me toooo

  • N

    So I’m confused… It may be obvious, but can someone explain the difference between Hala and the new electric trial master? I thought there were only 4? An it doesn’t make sense to have two electric specialist

    • Stanley

      I don’t think you fight the trial maser, whereas you do fight hala

    • Reece

      The trial master sets the trial I think – Ie find these items/race this course etc
      Then the Kahuna is the one you have to battle to conquer the island
      So it might go trial master -> gives challenge -> you do it -> face the trial boss Pokemon -> Face the Kahuna

      • N

        Ah! I get it now! So we still haven’t seen all the Kahunas yet! Thank you!

    • Galemcaedus

      Hala is hot and the electric trial master ain’t

    • libra

      What? There are four Trial Captains and four Kahunas. Hala is not a Electric Specialist, nor he’s been confirmed to be one.

      • N

        Yes haha makes sense now. Thank you for clearing that up lol it’s just so different that I was confused

  • Pile o’ Trubbish

    I like the “Alolan Forms” but they will forever be Delta Species for me….

  • jk

    With less 8 gyms in the game, I hope it doesn’t become too short and easy to finish. That would be a huge letdown.

    • I think it’s still kinda 8 gyms = 4 trials and 4 island leaders…

    • RaichuKeaton

      but there are 8 trainers? 4 trial masters and 4 kahunas (unconfirmed whether you fight them all or not)

      • Reece

        Well you will have the trial boss Pokemon things as well, so thats another thing to throw in the mix. And they’ll get harder each island I’m assuming, especially cause it can be like a horde battle but with one overpowered

        • RaichuKeaton

          yes! of course

      • jk

        Yeah, i hope we do get to fight them all and the difficulty level escalates considerably as we progress.

    • richie_btvs

      Im thinking we will go to kalos after alola… Since we are getting the “Z” move haha! I dont know… Maybe like gold silver but more elaborate….

      • jk

        I’d love that. That was the best idea they had to make things less easy.

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        That’s what I’ve been thinking for a while.

  • Sunny Mahmud
    • Richard Haslam

    • Smart move.

  • simkenno

    I have a feeling that now without “gyms” the challenges we face will be more spread out.

    I actually think that the story in the Alola Region might be the longest one yet. Due to the more open world feel that the Alola region gives. Being able to see points of interest in the background of the game is something I love about these islands.

    But I do certainly see these being a longer addition to the current story seems how it seems to use a lot of aspects from past games including spin offs like Ranger and Mystery Dungeon. Such as the adding to riding and “Leader Pokemon” calling others for help.

  • PercyEspeon

    I dunno why, but from the way the site describes the trial captains, I think there’s more than the 4 we saw. It said each trial will be overseen by a captain, and to me it seems like there will be multiple trials on each island. So….there might be more of them?

    • libra

      I think there is only one per Island, hence why there is four of them. I doubt there is many! We know the trails will consist of things other than battling though!

      • PercyEspeon

        I know, but the language seems to suggest what I am saying. It feels like there are multiple trails. heck, one of the pages mentions the kahuna says that when you defeat them, it’s a sign you completed ALL the trials. Meaning, more than one trial.
        I dunno, I feel like there are more captains. Could be wrong for sure.

    • TheNintendoChip

      Multiple per island, but still 4 total. Remember, one of the islands is pretty much uninhabited.

  • simkenno

    Lurantis vs Leavanny ?

  • Richard Haslam

    Of course, the female companions are the ones that get the Bird Starters

    • Wicked Omega

      Mallow and Rowlett as Ash’s companions then?

      • Richard Haslam

        and Ash Litten and Popplio. Later leading to his Litten evolving into Panthster,, who would then become as disobedient as Ash’s Charizard and Dawn’s Mammoswine.

  • Galemcaedus

    Rowlet
    Alola Ninetales
    Rockruff
    Mudsdale
    Vikavolt
    Salandit

  • Stanley

    It seems you’ll fight a totem gumshoos and a totem lurantis at some point. Wonder what other ones there are.

  • David Nixon

    well guys looks like we’ve got 11 days until the next half of the Pokemon Sun and Moon Info. 😀

  • CoolGlaceon

    So much revealed about SM, I actually forgot Magearna was a thing

  • Ben

    Call me crazy, but like…what if there isn’t an evil organization in this game? Interesting that we’ve gone this long without hearing a thing. I mean, they’re changing up the gym format, why not change that up too? A lot of big changes, and I’m personally really excited about that. This is shaping up to be the most unique Pokémon game in years.

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      There would have to be one. I don’t think the legends would just go on a rampage

  • RaichuKeaton

    So much is going through my head right now, like will there be an Ice stone introduced? how will vulpix evolve? I doubt its with a fire stone! SO MANY QUESTIONS!!!

    • zebstriker

      Didn’t even think of that haha all these new forms of both old and new Pokemon, it’s kind of confusing to me

  • There’s a lot of big changes and I’m worried and Evil Team being removed might be the next big change.

    • libra

      I hope not! What would be the plot of the Alola Games? Just becoming the Champion with very little obsticals? They need to keep a proper antagonist!

    • CoolGlaceon

      Not having an Evil team is actually quite possible. Hawaii is normally seen as a holiday destination, I guess they translated this idea into Alola as moving away from the norms and having a more enjoyable laid back game and not having an evil organization goes in hand with that concept.

    • FrenzyBurn

      you don’t like change?

  • Zoth

    Omg, I love every single thing that has been revealed today! I literally screamed of excitement :p

    Quick question: any ideas on how we will evolve Alolan Vulpix? A fire stone seems unlikely now.. All I can think of is the same method used to obtain Glaceon. Which would be a good thing, since it would make Icy Rock more useful.

    • RaichuKeaton

      never thought of the ice rock, but seeing as how its habitat is the ice capped mountains and I assume thats where the ice rock will be, it would make sense

  • “Clear each island’s trials and battle the Kakunas.”

    Heh heh heh. HAHAHAHAHA. (I know the correct spelling, don’t worry.)

  • Galemcaedus

    😂😂

    • CoolGlaceon

      OHMYGOD

    • Ben

      Fake. There are footprints below the Pokémon.

      • Galemcaedus

        Never said it was real mate

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          *it was sarcasm*

          • Ben

            Thank you 😛

        • Ben

          Sarcasm doesn’t transfer well online -_-

          • You need Kappa or /s. <3

          • Austin Ward

            Ain’t that the truth

          • Vlad

            That was just a really bad use of sarcasm tbh. You can’t use sarcasm for something that was already a joke in the first place. Now maybe what you mean is that you were “just kidding” which is understandardable and fits the conversation

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Perfection. 10/10

    • Daniel Rojas

      Oh God.. people are so creative! Cheers to whoever thought of this.

  • Reece

    Well with the four islands, we’ve got so far 4 Trial Captains, 4 Kahunas & 4 Guardian Deities, and we haven’t even got anything plot related yet!
    Im expecting big things then in terms of the plot especially seeing as how this gen seems to really focus on the connection between human and Pokemon.
    The new Leak mentioned that Lillie had a Zygarde Cell (Or core, I can’t remember) in her bag and since she is a mysterious character, I wonder how Zygarde will play into the main plot as well as a legendary

  • Caleb

    The traditional gym rumor is false they just revealed how they will work there is a person then the kauna person and totem Pokemon so ya just burst that bubble but everything else 100 percent sure real

  • zebstriker

    I love the new Pokemon and the new forms but im a bit confused and I appreciate that they are trying to mix things up 🙂

  • jk

    What about eevee? Do you think it’s possible that this alola form thing affects it as well? It would be mind blowing to have new designs/typings to its evolutions.

    • FrenzyBurn

      that would make it too ez for us

    • RaichuKeaton

      I feel like eevee 100% won’t be, its already so fluent in its types

      • jk

        I’d love to have new stuff about eevee. It would be a pity in such a peculiar region like alola, not to explore it in any way.

  • What if… Alola Vulpix’s hidden ability is Snow Warning… =)

  • AceTrainer

    Has anyone else noticed the four pointed star thingies that each of the Captain’s has? Its on the waist of Lana and Mallow, on the belt of Sophocles and around Kiawe’s neck. I wonder what they could be?

    • Gym Badges. 🙂

      Or what’s left of them. I bet the Kahunas will be giving them out too.

    • AceTrainer

      I also noticed Sophocles has a gameboy on his T-shirt

  • If the Evil Team is removed, I’m cancelling my pre-orders. Then there’s no point in the games at with the loss of an antagonist. So much changes. DrunkFreak, you better not fucking take that out, you pigs! Ohmori I think was smoking weed with Masuda when they were making this game.

    • FrenzyBurn

      Throwing a Tyrantrum i see.

    • RaichuKeaton

      a bit much don’t ya think?

    • You have until November 17 to cancel it! Give it some time.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Are you saying a Pokemon game that’s simply about exploration and adventure isn’t enough for you? lol

    • oh c’mon, you won’t buy the game because of the lack of a generic anime antagonist?

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        Yeah, the antagonists are usually very generic and are hardly the best part of the game. I liked gold and silver for having very little team rocket in it.

        • PercyEspeon

          Still love Team Galactic and Team Plasma tho 🙂 <3

          • FrenzyBurn

            team galactic was the best in my opinion

          • PercyEspeon

            I’ll agree with you there 🙂 They were goofy yet dangerous at the same time for me. Plus, I still shiver every time Cyrus talks about his plans. Just removing spirit to make his own world seems so inhuman to me.
            But I love Team Plasma for the same reasons. 🙂

          • FrenzyBurn

            Team Plasma was nice because of the fact they had N who spoke to me as a character

          • PercyEspeon

            N was amazing 🙂 same with me there, I really related to him as I feel I was sort of like him in the past. Only seeing one way for the good of others. But I’ve learned there are other ways and one way may not be good for everyone.
            Plus, his relationship was his father is what I have with my own self at times. :3

          • FrenzyBurn

            I loved it when he left Unova. I was all crying like pls don’t go. I literally walked all over Unova to find him post game.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Those two are really more of the exception than the rule 🙂

          • PercyEspeon

            True, but they do have generic elements to them 🙂

    • knightwolf09

      Remember there was also the rumor Lillie’s father is the main villain.

    • PercyEspeon

      Just breathe. Be calm. I don’t think they’ll get rid of an antagonist (there has to be some sort of conflict, conflict drives plot after all!) but even if they did, I don’t think it’s worth not giving SM a shot. They look to be amazing games. 🙂

    • Ultron

      -Gives TM for calm mind-

      This is not the end of the world, trust me

  • Shady

    Fomantis this name is so familiar for me ??….I believe I read it in some rumors help me ppl …..my brain didn’t work will.

  • Galemcaedus

    More

    • Galemcaedus

      Lol

  • Kneesus

    Looks like I’ll be using a starter from the previous generation, probably cyndaquill. This will be a first but oh well.

  • SesquipedalianPokedex

    Oh my goodness, I didn’t know what to expect for today’s news but this was amazing! I’ll give you my opinions because I didn’t comment on the last article:
    -Alola Forms, oh my gosh I have wanted something like this for SO LONG! I love the ice type ninetails and sandslash lines! They look really cool! *ice pun* Executor is hilarious as well!
    -Z attacks, no surprises at this point, pretty much what I thought they would be. The attack names are too cheesy imo
    -New Pokemon, I really like the little meteor, it has a cool typing and it’s REALLY CUTE. The others are fine…
    -Riding Pokemon! Looks really awesome, soaring on charizard confirmed?

    • PercyEspeon

      I really love Oriocorio for the different designs/forms it has, and Fomantis and Lurantis look amazing as well <3

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        I love oriocorio as well! I love things like vivion that have a lot of different forms.(I just forgot it existed, so many new things to think about, you know?)

        • PercyEspeon

          Yeah, totally, and it’s a lot of info for your brain to process, no worries

        • FrenzyBurn

          I would love i but there is no African tribe looking version

  • Galemcaedus

    Lmao

  • Eka Lee

    No to two final evolutions for each starter… Just no!!

    • Richard Haslam

      I agree, and I doubt that the company would do so to the starters.

    • FrenzyBurn

      That would be cool for all those who hate Fire/Fighting (99%) and all those who do (1% GF)

    • Kneesus

      Yes. Especially for those who don’t like the current forms.

  • jk

    If alola abra line is becoming fighting type, maybe they will reverse things and make machop line go psychic.Can you imagine that?! My head is spinning with theories.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    Ok so going off the leaks it says that the day and night system doesn’t work the way it has in the past. I knew I was right about it! Every time they show the battle with Hau on the platform it’s been sunset. I think they are going to a regulated day night system where certain events take over and make it be a a particular time of the day in game. I imagine there will be an in game clock that keeps track of things rather than using the clock from the 3DS. I wonder what it’ll be like. Every hour is a day? or maybe it changes more frequently and then stops based on an event you have to trigger? Could be very interesting. It will also allow people that can only play at certain times of the day to see very time of the day in game.

    • FrenzyBurn

      OMG Night is Day and Day is Night

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Up is down, black is white, dogs are in relationships with cats!!! We’re in the apocalypses!!!!!

    • It could work like Xenoblade where each minute is an in-game hour.

      • FrenzyBurn

        This ^

      • Galemcaedus

        That reminds I still have to finish Xenoblade lol

        • DefensiveBastiodon

          I got stuck about halfway through and gave up for now lol

        • FrenzyBurn

          I still have to buy it xD

          • Galemcaedus

            I’m like level 12 and just completely forgot I had it lol. So many other games I’m playing

          • You’ve got a long way to go, then.

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Yeah that’s what I was thinking. It would allow them to keep things organized, but also be able to stop at a specific time of the day for events and such.

  • Galemcaedus

    Oh btw, I think the electric Trial Captain might’ve invented the Rotom dex

    • libra

      Professor Kukui is the one who invented and created the Rotom Dex. This has already been confirmed.

      • PercyEspeon

        He could have collaborated with Sophocles though. Especially with the technology part of the Rotom Dex

        • Anon

          Sophocles is a clemont wannabe

          • Galemcaedus

            Clemont is a tool

          • Anon

            Clemont was boring imo

          • PercyEspeon

            Yes, while they seem to be similar, personality-wise, they are different. Clemont is more friendly, while Sophocles seems to be more grumpy and antisocial in a way.
            Point is, just because two characters have certain things in common doesn’t make them the same character.

          • FrenzyBurn

            Also he looks like a kid. That big one from Detective Conan to be precise

          • Anon

            What? Who said they were the same?

          • PercyEspeon

            Sorry if I interpret it that way, but when I hear the words ‘wannabe’ I just think you’re saying that the character is exactly the same as the character you compare it to. (In your case, that Sophocles is exactly like Clemont)
            Sorry if I misinterpreted, the Internet can be confusing at times. 🙂

  • Anon

    Alola is just trying to be an in-game orange islands, i mean variations of old pokemon, gym leaders work with trials instead of battling and there are 4 islands

  • libra

    Does anyone else think that Alola Form Ninetails should have been Ice/Ghost instead of Ice/Fairy due to its lore? It was the perfect opportunity! Also, why haven’t we talked about the amazing remix of the Wild Battle theme for the Totem Pokemon?

    • jk

      Alola ninetales looks the same as regular ninetales. It’d would have been amazing if it became ghost or dark type so it could be pitch black instead.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      TRUE! That would have been SO COOL! Plus the new music from this trailer was really good, as with the rest of the new songs for the game 😉

    • Flamestorm6

      Well technically they revere Alolan Ninetales as a sacred emissary of the gods and it is like mythic protector of the frozen peaks. Makes it seem much more like a nature spirit fairy type than a ghost or psychic.

    • Daniel Rojas

      True.. probably wanted to cover new dual types, which I appreciate.

    • Well, I’ll probably be just a quadruped Froslass in that case?

    • Taaseen Salam

      theyre releasing a snowman thats ghost and ice type

  • André

    Dodrio with Close Combat… goodbye Staraptor
    And gale wings pls!!

  • Shady

    Urrrrrrrrrgh y no dark type until now ??? I would be ok if Litten final evo is fire/dark though.

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    With Exeggutor getting frisk, that’s a sign its stats are getting bumped up

  • EpidemicPain

    Whats the type of littens evo(please not fighting….)

    • libra

      Likely Fire/Dark.

      • Galemcaedus

        Yes please, and please dont become bipedal.

      • EpidemicPain

        I would like to believe that but hes using wrestling moves

    • André

      Fire/ground

  • If it’s true that there are no gyms in Alola, then it has never made more sense to go back to an older region post-game.

    Think about it! After you’ve beat the game and created your own gym, you leave behind your legacy to visit another region, say Kalos, where gyms and the Pokémon League are well established, to challenge them and maybe do research to bring back knowledge to improve the League you created in Alola.

    Also, hi! ☺️ Long time lurker who created an account to comment for the first time.

    • Galemcaedus

      S/M are spiritual succesors to Gold and Silver, and we could visit Kanto in those games. If they want to honor gen 2, they will have us visit Kalos as part of the endgame content.

    • PercyEspeon

      Hai 🙂 Welcome to the Jungle! 😀
      And yeah, I’m really feeling the going back to Kalos thing, even before we knew of SM tbh

      • FrenzyBurn

        Nah going back to them Sinnoh days would be better, Would be cool if we could use Cynthia’s black ship for that

        • PercyEspeon

          I wanna save Sinnoh for a remake 🙂 Really deserves so, as it’s my fav region/game

          • FrenzyBurn

            Same. I hope when they do have the sinnoh remakes that they would expand a bit on both the story and the region

          • PercyEspeon

            Definitely 🙂 I jsut want it to be a game that won’t have the issues people have with the originals, the slowness and what not. I didn’t mind it back then, but I never knew it was such an issue. (then again, I had no Pokemon friends and wasn’t heavily on the Internet during this time)

          • FrenzyBurn

            I agree. I really hope the music comes back and that we dwell more into the Space+Time+Distortion World+ Arceus Story

    • libra

      S.S. Anne is returning. It might bring us to either Kanto or Kalos. Honetly, who knows at this point. It’s to early to say much other than speculating!

  • libra

    I hope that not only Kanto Pokemon will get the Alola form treatment, but it seems that way! Anyways, I know I commented about HMs already, but after reading the site it details a feature called Poke Ride. Your able to call upon rideable Pokemon at any time without needing to own them. I’m assuming that Sharpedo and Lapras will replace Surf, Charizard will do regular Flying and Soaring, and others would just be rideable for fun and to traverse new areas. I’m sure the HMs will now become TMs!

    • FrenzyBurn

      Atleast I might have a reason to use Ratata and Raticate

    • RaichuKeaton

      I would love to hear what Pokemon you’d like to see get Alolan forms, I would personally love to see Aipom or the Chansey line get one, but I don’t know what types they could be

      • Wicked Omega

        When I think animal diversity I think of the Galapagus tortoise, so either Torkoal or Torterra could have a new typing/appearence. That and the Hippocampus Rapidash are all I can think of right now :3

        • RaichuKeaton

          omg I can totally see Torkoal getting a new form!!! and would love that!!!

  • SnappyK

    I was hesitant when they showed off the Alolan pokemon differences. I still am (why not just change a few things and make it a new species?) but so far these changes are all very interesting and will make for a really different, fun Pokemon game.

    The most annoying thing about this game is that there will be another… ANOTHER f**king electric type gym leader. Well so far my predictions have been going well.

    • libra

      but their not gym leaders tho…

      • SnappyK

        Well we’ve yet to see if they will start gyms. Idk, I’ll edit it if things change.

  • Galemcaedus

    Awesome, participants of the Island Trials are given this charm. And Pokémon Centers in Japan will sell real ones.

    • Moonlight Marble

      Do we know the names of the ISLANDS? YELLOW, PINK PURPLE, RED?

      • PercyEspeon

        Could be 🙂 I really love the charm though, really hope they sell them on Pokemon Center :3

  • Reece

    Just another brain wave where two and two could be brought together, but all the Alolan Pokemon are Kanto Pokemon so far and the main player is not native – could be from Kanto, especially as mum has a Meowth (can’t remember if this was confirmed or just a theory), also RBY transferable capabilities with S&M and finally in the leak it mentioned the S.S.Anne, could this be the post game to rival Gen II?

  • brad

    Perhaps I’m late, but:
    “Kiawe is a captain whose expertise is in Fire-type Pokémon. Together
    with his Marowak, he studies the traditional dances that have been
    passed down in the Alola region.”
    Fire Marowak, maybe?

  • SesquipedalianPokedex

    Has everyone seen the Japanese trailer? Is has some new music and scenes in it:
    http://youtu.be/Iaav6J6XzFs

    • FrenzyBurn

      I wish i could speak japanese. I only know the important words atleast, Oppai, Onii-chan (-sama), otaku, Oppai, etc.

    • libra

      I’ve already seen it. I make it habit to watch both the Japanese and English trailers. The Japanese trailers usually have more content.

    • ShinyXatu

      I was really worried at first when I saw that thumbnail, but my opinion changed very quickly!

  • SnappyK

    Also, only thing I actually disliked in the trailer was Alolan Exeggutor.
    Really… why? Those proportions are horrible.

    • FrenzyBurn

      In basketball terms you would call that perfect

    • Anon

      It would have been better to create another palm tree pokemon imo

      • SnappyK

        It’s like Exeggutor is trying to one-up Tropius.
        OH so GameFreak thinks they can replace me with another palm tree pokemon? What this new guy is super tall!? I’ll beat him at his own game.

        • Anon

          Ikr i wonder if alolan tropius is extra tall lmao

      • ShinyXatu

        Basically, the “normal” Exeggutor has stunted growth. This is the form we were always meant to see. It makes more sense this way, I think.

        • Anon

          The sun thing makes no sense either way as hoenn is supposed to be as tropical as alola yet there are no “hoenian” tall exeggutors but whatever lel

          • ShinyXatu

            Humidity and other aspects unique to Alola probably play a role as well. You have a good point though, I’m just spitballing now.

      • Poketard101

        It still looks like a Palm tree to me, just one with the appropriate length-ed neck. LOL

    • libra

      It scares me. Just image being chased by that! You can’t avoid that long neck!

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Ax it

        • FrenzyBurn

          Ax it what?

        • FrenzyBurn

          I think you meant Axew it

        • Galemcaedus

          You went full Earthen there, very extreme.

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            You would be chased by a man eating coconut dragon. Wtf would you do?

          • FrenzyBurn

            Go to rehab for my drug abuse?

          • EarthenWarrior

            Chase IT DOWN
            Hack off the neck, prey the coconuts off and feast

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    Fire Marowak is coming

  • Alola Exeggcutor is actually an old design, here seen on the box of the Japanese Jungle Pokémon TCG from, what, 20 years ago?

    • Anon

      Yep they have been planning these from the start

    • RaichuKeaton

      holy shitttttttt (॓_॔)

    • ShinyXatu

      Can I see that picture?

      • Stanley

        here

        • ShinyXatu

          Well I’ll be…

    • Daniel Rojas

      That’s actually pretty interesting. Thanks for sharing.

  • Reece

    Did anyone else mention how we have another Island name: Akala? I looked it up and it translates to Pink. Seems we won’t have a RBYG island theme

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      Pink is simply neon red

      • Reece

        I did actually think that as well, haha
        Raves & Ibiza in Alola confirmed

    • PercyEspeon

      Welp, it was fun to theorize about, at the very least.
      But I’ll still hang on to it, pink is a lighter red after all. 🙂

    • libra

      I stated that. So far we have Mememele (Yellow) and Akala (Pink). I’m guessing the last three are Red (Ula Ula), Orange (Alani), and White (Ke oke oh).

    • Moonlight Marble

      Look below, the bag charm thing has a yellow triangle, a pink one and a red one

  • This whole Alaolan version is quite intriguing, especially seeing how it works in the long run with other gens. At this point it seems it is gen I reduced.

    Still I’m eager to see Water Growlithe. That should be a blast.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      I hope it looks kind of like a Portuguese Water Dog, I don’t know how they would incorporate that into growlith though….. Maybe it will just be blue but I hope they are more creative than that.

      • RaichuKeaton

        Im assuming it will have fluffy whit fur around its head and such (both growlith and arcanine) that kind of resembles a gentle seafoam

      • I assume all those white parts will have an aquatic feel . Design wise they don’t change much. But I assume it will be a more Dark Blue.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Ughhhhhhh just what I need another bulky Water Type…..

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        You’re ground types better watch out O^O

      • RaichuKeaton

        I hope for your sake we get an Alolan form pokemon that has adapted to become a ground type, don’t know which pokemon it would be though

        • EarthenWarrior

          I don’t either but all of these just are not doing it for me
          Once again everyone is getting new and exciting things they like and I’m completely shell shocked
          Now because of this Popplio is going to turn into…THAT THING

          • RaichuKeaton

            ugh, why are you like this

          • EarthenWarrior

            Because I hate Faries, I don’t like the Variants, Popplio is doomed and nothing feels right anymore

          • RaichuKeaton

            seems like you don’t like much and are afraid of change to me

          • EarthenWarrior

            Both of these are true, if I can’t get excited then watching others get excited is just misery

          • Kneesus

            i feel your pain! it drags, man, literally

        • FrenzyBurn

          I would hope that Magnazone turned into ground/electric with levitate

          • RaichuKeaton

            that could work if it was super freakin rusted

          • EarthenWarrior

            How could that Possibly work out

          • FrenzyBurn

            no idea.

          • FrenzyBurn

            How about Ground/water golduck

          • EarthenWarrior

            Stupid really really stupid

      • Galemcaedus

        No Water type is in the same category as the mighty Greninja!

        • EarthenWarrior

          Please because of Protean its barely a Water Type anymore

      • Since when are Growlithe and Arcanine bulky? O.o

        • EarthenWarrior

          For a while, people nowadays run bulky Arcanine which works….
          Intimidate into Will-o-wisp
          Spam Morning Sun it’s a freaking mess

    • Moonlight Marble

      We’ve already seen regular arcanine in Alola though, and I don’t think regular forms will be in Alola will they ?

      • Wes

        Trailers aren’t 100% accurate representations of what will be in the games.

  • libra

    Has anyone seen giraffes fight? The fight by slamming their necks on each other. Just image Exeggcutor’s Alola form fighting like that. That would be hilarious! 😂

  • SesquipedalianPokedex

    OMG I am SO hyped for these games! They look wonderful! These changes to the formula make the games look so fresh and new! I can’t wait to explore the Alola reagon! I think at this point I am a ton more hyped than I was for X and Y and Black and White!

  • Poketard101

    OMG I AM SOOOOO SURPRISED/HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I think Game Freak read my mind. A few years ago I came up with an alternate form for both Vulpix, and Pikachu and they were both Ice type, well Ice/fire, and Ice/Electric. OMG This is sooo awesome. And all these alternate forms. LOL I guess I’m going to be spending even more time on my Yellow/Red versions, catching duplicates of certain Pokemon. 😀 OMG All this info (Including the proof that the final evolutions ARE IN FACT REAL XD XD XD ) is making me so damn happy. <3 The only disappointment for me, is the no more gyms thing. But on the plus side of that, this new island challenge thing sounds awesome. 😀

    • FrenzyBurn

      I think a lot of people had the idea for an alternate vulpix form. love to see your entusiasm doe

      • Poketard101

        LOL Yeah they probably did. 😀
        Thanks, I don’t normally get that hyped over things, but this is literally some of the BEST news that I have gotten for Sun and Moon. 😀
        (And I’m sure that there is more awesome news yet to come. XD )

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Same, I have wanted Pokemon variations since I was a kid and saw the episode of the anime where they went to the island with the gs ball, and all the Pokemon looked different!

      • Poketard101

        LOL I think lots of people have been wanting this for a LOOOONNNNGGGG time. XD

  • Galemcaedus

    Bruvvvv that Poke Ride looks like so much fun! I am defo transferring one of my Charizards to S/M!

    • libra

      Here’s the fun part about Poke Ride… You don’t need to own the Pokemon to do it! 😉

      • Galemcaedus

        But I have a shiny 🙁

    • PercyEspeon

      The Pokemon you ride is not your own 🙂 but maybe you can at least pretend? :3

      • libra

        I think you were right about HMs being removed! I should have saw it sooner! Poke Ride is something fresh and inovative!

        • PercyEspeon

          Well, I mean, I’m not the only one who said that though xD It was just something I thought could happen cause of the riding thing.
          And I’m honestly glad, HMs were becoming a bit bothersome anyway.

  • PercyEspeon

    I really want to see some places and have actual names for them D: Like, I feel like we’ve seen so little of Alola and while it would be cool to have some surprises, I would love to see some of them and see the actual names for them ^^

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Yeah, I already love the reagon design from the map, I want to know MORE!

    • Wes

      Right? All we know are the Melemele and Akala islands. :/

      • PercyEspeon

        We don’t even know which island is Akala! We could guess, but we don’t know for sure

  • SnappyK

    Mfw that new orchid mantis ISN’T Bug/Grass type. (refresh)

    • Ultron

      That’s what I was saying.

    • FrenzyBurn

      your profile pic. Pls change. The nightmares are going to be real

      • SnappyK

        That means it’s working. I might edit it to be more pokemon-ish

      • SnappyK

        Changed. Better?

        • FrenzyBurn

          I respect the Kenan use

    • PercyEspeon

      It is shocking, yes, but I honestly don’t mind, I still like it 🙂

      • FrenzyBurn

        I think that it was better without bug/grass. Remeber leafenny and the fire type one bang?

        • PercyEspeon

          I still love Leavanny, regardless of its weaknesses. Besides, you probably had a water type to switch in for it 🙂

          • EarthenWarrior

            You can’t always rely on switch outs
            That’s why a single Pokemon must be able to cover its own hide

          • PercyEspeon

            I don’t do much competitive, so in-game, you can switch out easily.
            And from what I do see in comp (I watch some comp Poketubers), you can switch out to counter something, it’s just complicated cause you have to predict your opponent.

          • PercyEspeon

            Plus, every Pokemon has a weakness, so it’s something you expect with any Pokemon really.

    • libra

      Maybe the plant is imitating the mantis, which is why it’s not Grass/Bug.

      • SnappyK

        Whoa, that would be crazy awesome. Instead of the mantis imitating the plant, it’s he other way. You should work for GF.

    • Leavanny with less weaknesses. These guys in a nutshell.

  • Ithsme

    What is the significance of Z in Z moves?

    • FrenzyBurn

      Z as in german pronunciation of ‘the’ hence The Moves

      • Ithsme

        In that case every moves are Z moves.

    • libra

      The letter Z makes everything crazy and edgy.

      • PercyEspeon

        I can attest to this.

      • Ithsme

        Pretty much what I thouht. XD

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      *Pokemon Z* In all seriousness maybe it has something to do with it being a last resort because you can only use it once per battle.

    • Moonlight Marble

      Right…. I still feel like AZ, mega evolution etc. are unexplained.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    So according to the leaks we’ll egt to see a butt load of old people including Looker, Cynthia, Blue, Zinnia, AZ, and Lance. Should be interesting to see them in the style of SuMo as some of them haven’t even been seen in 3D yet lol

    • Ithsme

      BLUE!!

    • Richard Haslam

      especially Cynthia, seeing that it has been 10 years since Diamond and Pearl, and that we havn’t seen her since Gen 5.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Can’t wait to see Blue and Cynthia in sweet gen 7 3D!

      • Richard Haslam

        Can’t wait to see the remake of Diamond and Pearl in sweet gen 7 3D, on the Nintendo NX

    • libra

      I want to see them in the S/M style. I feel like their coming to Alola to take a break or there redoing the World Tournament. It’s likely the ladder tho.

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        If the part of the leaks about a formal league being built holds and water then I could see them coming to Alola as representatives of the other regions to help make the league lol

      • Galemcaedus

        Yes, World Tournament in which Ash participates after winning the Kalos League. CALLING IT NOW!

        • Gikie

          That is where we see AG!

          • Ithsme

            My initials! 😀

    • PercyEspeon

      Ahhh Cynthia <3 AND ZINNIA YES PLEASE I WANT HER BACK YESSSS

    • FrenzyBurn

      Cynthia ftw

  • boxmeister

    I get the feeling that another region will appear in these games

    • Galemcaedus

      Kalos

      • boxmeister

        Probably, especially with the new Zygarde form and such I think it would provide a good match. Although I could also see them visit a different region such as Kanto.

        • Galemcaedus

          Kanto and Johto are my two favorite regions (although Alola is closing in on them) so I wouldn’t mind that either.

    • SnappyK

      Isn’t that going to be a ton of data to store on one cartridge?

      • FrenzyBurn

        if the ds can do it then the 3ds can too

        • SnappyK

          I just meant with all those 3D models and whatnot.

      • Ithsme

        XY was only 1.7 GB out of 8.

        • SnappyK

          I stand corrected.

  • Wes

    I know I’m in the minority here, but I love Alolan Exeggutor. It’s just so tall and ridiculous, and I love it so much. I’m definitely having it on my team in Sun!

    • ShinyXatu

      I do too! I love every single thing revealed today. In fact, there isn’t a single thing revealed so far that I really hate!

      • Wes

        I won’t say I love everything because the birds still need to grow on me, but I certainly adore most of it.

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        Same! It’s a great feeling! This has probobly been my favorite set of news!

      • Ithsme

        This seemingly controversial reveal has me way more pumped than any other reveal yet!

      • EarthenWarrior

        I’m the complete opposite
        They just had to make Ninetales part Fairy it could’ve easily been Psychic or Ghost but just to stick a thorn in my side
        Sandshrew is tainted…..Snowshrew and Snowslash…..
        Now because of this everyone is going to bark out demands for Alolan Variants of ridicules types
        The meteor isn’t good
        Trumpgoos
        Gey burds
        Why the hell is Exeggutor a Dragon
        And this means the Starter Evos are in fact true, which means all the time I wanted to use Popplio is now crumbling because of that horrid evolution
        This was not a good day

        • Ithsme

          The one thing I agree with you on is that Ice/Psychic would’ve been better for Ninetales.

          • EarthenWarrior

            But nope, another freaking Fairy

          • Ithsme

            I’m no fairy hater, but we have way too many fairies this early on in the news release cycle. If they keep coming at this rate, there will be way too many.

          • FrenzyBurn

            Dragons Bewear 😉

          • GlaceEx

            There’s only 6 so far out of 31. Not including Ninetails. And fairy kinda fits a lot of things from Hawaii.

          • LordTerminal

            Fuck you Fairy hater.

          • Roberto Matos

            ice/ghost since it learns so many typically ghost type moves

        • PercyEspeon

          What about the grass mantis Pokemon? 😀 You didn’t mention them

          • EarthenWarrior

            Oh it’s going to be so freaking annoying
            Solar Blade is just going to be a Physical Solarbeam which already hurts like a bitch to most of my Pokemon

          • FrenzyBurn

            Good

          • PercyEspeon

            Yeah, but it’s a 2-turn move, so you might have time to take it down :3

          • EarthenWarrior

            Who would possibly run that without sun
            That is effing mental

          • PercyEspeon

            True, or they would use a Power Herb, if they didn’t have a sun team.
            But, because it’s in the sun, the fire-type moves that hit it are going to hurt. It’s a trade-off

          • EarthenWarrior

            That’s why they have the stupid back up
            The damn thing also has Leaf Guard so finding Lurantis outside a sun team is going to be rare
            …….I swear if they give it HA Chlorophyll…….

          • PercyEspeon

            I’d probably be the person to use it outside a sun team xD I’m not fond of the idea of weather teams, so if I was super into competitive, I’d probably not use them often.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Leave it to earthen to take a day of amazing news and hate it :T

          • RaichuKeaton

            yep

        • Wes

          Mudbray? I thought for sure you’d at least appreciate it, if not love it.

          • EarthenWarrior

            I like it, just the eyes are terrible

          • Shady

            wat I love about him is just the terrible eyes.

          • FrenzyBurn

            that fresh cut doe

          • PumpkinBomb

            looking and this and ponyta…I cant belive they belong to the same game…ponyta has some more natural look while this basically looks like a plush toy

          • Meow

            donkey from shrek awesome

        • richie_btvs

          I feel the same for litten…. Im choosing rowlet…. Hated litten3

        • D

          Gumshoos and its prevo look nothing like Trump. Gumshoos is actually based on a private eye detective. If you look closely, it looks like it has a detective’s coat and cap. Its name comes from “Gumshoes”, which is a nickname for a private eye detective.

        • silverwolf64

          Funny, that evo makes me want Popplio but want to ditch Litten.

          • Roberto Matos

            me too. I’m not using litten anymore. It’s good though cause now I can have salandit without being with 2 fire types. Hope salandit’s evolution doesn’t suck!!

          • PokeMasterRina

            I’m definitely ditching Litten. I love Rowlet’s evo. Considering switching to him.

          • Litten’s still my favorite of the starters, but ‘Entermaid’ (confirmed?) is my favorite of those third-stage evolution ones (followed by ‘Robingroot.’) :/ Dangit.

          • silverwolf64

            First forms Litten is also still my favorite. But the Robingroot is actually my favorite now followed by Entermaid. And then.. Litten’s…

          • Heh…yeah…I feel you.

        • Isis Nether

          You mad about fairy, bro?

          Popplio was horrid to begin with.

        • GlaceEx

          1. I think Fairy is more fitting for the ice version, the fire one I could see add psychic.
          2. Well it still came from the normal Sandshrews.
          3. So? Doesn’t affect the game.
          4. I think it’s hilarious, definitely naming one after Trump once I get it.
          5. I like the meteor personally.
          6. The birds represent the different forms of the hula dance.
          7. Exeggutor is a dragon type because it’s design is based off a tree that’s name means dragon.
          8. We don’t know for sure about that, we will see.

        • PitogoXD

          wow, you are so negative…

        • Not for Drinking

          genwunner

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      OMG he’s amazing!!! I love all the goofy picture people are making with him lol

    • Ithsme

      I will in Moon, my secondary game. I love the idea of adaptions. Much more thought out than Mega evolution.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      I personally like it more than regular exeggutor! It’s a lot less creepy and a lot more funny 🙂

    • Galemcaedus

      Like it too, but the Dragon typing confuses me. Wonder what GF’s motivation was to give it Dragon.

      • Gikie

        Dragon Palm

      • Ithsme

        Because slapping a dragon type on it makes it cooler!

    • PercyEspeon

      ‘having it on my team in Sun’
      Well, of course, it became that way with the huge amount of sunlight after all 🙂

    • FrenzyBurn

      I love that thing.

    • richie_btvs

      E feel the same… It seems organic dor me…. Not strange…. I liked 🙂

    • simkenno

      Ilove it aswell I always pictured a mega exeggutor like this. So I’m all G 🙂

    • Ajason Ray

      You’re not alone

  • kev

    I wish we’d gotten a black ninetales (dark, ghost or psychic) instead of one that look exactly like the regular form.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Maybe that will be the shiny /:)

      • kev

        Gonna pray for that.

    • Poketard101

      LOL you clearly must have forgotten what Ninetails original form looks like. Because this new form look NOTHING like the original. 🙂

  • Ithsme

    Here’s my new theory (I don’t know if someone else has said this yet):
    Guardians will be fire, electric, ghost, and psychic, like he birds from the island. The names of the islands will be:
    MeleMele – Yellow – Electric
    Akala – Pink – Psychic
    Ula Ula – Red – Fire
    Poni – Purple – Ghost

  • kev

    Just noticed that the orchid legs look like stripes of fried bacon. lol

  • SesquipedalianPokedex

    I am really interested in the fighting type abra line! I have no idea how that would look. I wonder if they would change the mega as well…

  • FrenzyBurn

    I hope Ground types get another weakness or become obsolete

    • Kneesus

      as a ground type lover, that’s just cruel

      • FrenzyBurn

        As a electricc type lover its not

        • Ithsme

          You have one weakness. One.

          • FrenzyBurn

            And?

          • Ithsme

            Ground has 3.

        • Kneesus

          Electric rarely has any weakness though, ground only if i’m not mistaken

    • Ithsme

      Honestly ground is weak enough. Don’t touch ground or poison.

      • FrenzyBurn

        Electric needs more presence

        • Ithsme

          Electric is by no means a weak type. It is one of the last types that need a buff.

          • FrenzyBurn

            in terms of damage its a meh type. Its mostly used as a status dealing type and thats it.

          • Poketard101

            LOL sorry but I have to disagree with you on that one. Electric types have way to many weakness’ for my tastes. I love using Pikachu, but it seems like almost EVERYTHING can knock it out. 🙁

          • But as a type, Electrics only have Ground as a weakness.

      • EarthenWarrior

        We constantly have to deal with Scald, Ice Beam, Giga Drain, AND THEY HURT ALOT

    • EarthenWarrior

      You prick

      • FrenzyBurn

        you brick

        • EarthenWarrior

          You dick

          • FrenzyBurn

            you mick… E mouse

          • EarthenWarrior

            Fail

          • FrenzyBurn

            you Mick..EY Mouse

  • Tev-Da-Trainer

    I hope GameFreak does this Alolan Forme thing in future Pokemon games. This a great way to reinvent old Pokemon.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Exactly!! It also allows them to slow down on the number brand new Pokemon and give the lime light to the already existing ones more lol

      • Tev-Da-Trainer

        Also this allows to beef up weaker Pokemon. The possibilities with this is endless!

    • Daniel Rojas

      Yes, and without us having to learn more names!

      • Pharap

        You mean you don’t have all 721 (discounting the un-numbered alolans) memorised?

        • Daniel Rojas

          Haha, most of them.. at least final evolutions more than anything. Maybe I can learn a few more, but man.. it’s getting hard with age!

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    Was just reading Lurantis’s page and it’s apparently the totum Pokemon of Akala Island. I wonder which one that is. Prolly the island to the east of MeleMele

    • PercyEspeon

      That’s what I think too, but we won’t know until official word gets out

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        It’s the only island I can think it’d fit other than MeleMele, but it’s weird….I would have thought a fire type would be the totum for that island lol

        • PercyEspeon

          I think there’s multiple trials, so there might be mutliple totems per island.
          Plus it says directly ‘It is the Totem Pokemon of Lush Forest, the site of an Akala Island trial’ It’s just the Totem Pokemon of that trial/place, not of the island itself.

    • Ithsme

      I say south. The east island will likely be named after red.

  • Dicie

    Amazing! I can’t wait for these games to come out!

  • Ithsme

    Do you think maybe the reason you are traveling is to get the totem Pokemon and the guardians to stop the evil team?

    • Probs. We open the gates to the legendary’s lair with the approval of the four island leaders, and fight off the evil team trying to capture it.

      • Ithsme

        do you think that the totem Pokemon will form an actual totem? Because I thought that would be what the guardians did.

        • FrenzyBurn

          The megazord of totems

          • I approve.

            Maybe the trial captains give you the (stone or wood) totems.

            Then we need some blessing of the kahunas to activate them.

  • kev

    Curious about the archer stats. Hope it has a massive attack. so it’ll make up for its typing. Grass/flying is basically a death sentence.

    • Ithsme

      Physical sweeper by the looks of it. Frail sadly.

      • kev

        They tend to give one of the starters a massive speed, but we all know that during battles speed is not exactly the holy grail if your attack is too lame.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Ice Shatd both It and A. Exeggutor

      • Not so fast. 4x doesn’t mean dead. Especially with a 40 power move.

        Remember the last time someone tried to Aqua Jet your Rhyperior…

        • EarthenWarrior

          I’m saying my Mamoswine runs Expert Belt which increases Super Effective moves by 20% so add that with a 4x Weakness add in Mamoswine’s 130 Base attack and Ice Shard gets a Stab (Mine’s Adamant) so it will most likely kill anyone sporting an ice Weakness

  • Leo

    I’ve loved Litten since the first time I saw it, but because of this final evo I’ll swear I’ll roam Alola in search of every Litten3 I can find and get rid of them.

  • SesquipedalianPokedex

    Can’t wait to see the inevitable Kiawe fan art lol

    • Wes

      Already seen it thanks to tumblr. o_o

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        Already?! People are fast! But that’s nothing new I guess.

      • Leo

        Kiawe is hot just like daddy Kukui

    • PercyEspeon

      And I thought Kukui’s might be bad >.< Hopefully Arceus will have mercy on us

  • Diego Nadales Gavira

    Alola forms confirmed in gen 1

    • Tev-Da-Trainer

      Woooow. Seems like GameFreak have wanting to do this for a while. I just hope it becomes a norm in Pokemon games from now on.

    • Ithsme

      What?

      • Shady

        rf*

        • Ithsme

          Oh thank you!

    • Galemcaedus

      So the Exeggute line aren’t Kanto native then?

      • John Vincent Wedig

        Nope. They could only be found in the Safari Zone, which features all imported Pokemon. That said, by the time the events of Gen 2 took place, it did settle in the region, as well as Johto, likely being set free after the Safari Zone closed.

    • Ben Rhodes

      Dude that’s Gen 3, that’s Ruby/Sapphire

    • simkenno

      Ah now. Jesus I love how much went on in Gen 1 that we get nowadays. Like Munna ! Love this

    • Daniel Rojas

      Oh, GF is reading old Dex entries! QUICK, someone make a summary

    • Pharap

      Erm… how do I put this…
      That pokedex entry is from gen 3.

  • Shady

    The new pokeball is specified to rideable pkemon ..I think.
    http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470064280629.png

    • SnappyK

      That’s badass. So we get an extra pokeball for rideable pokemon? Maybe we get lent these balls. Or maybe, we get gifted these rideable pokemon and they completely replace HMs.

      • Shady

        I really hope that …..HMs could ruin ur team.

        • Poketard101

          I don’t see the hate associated with HM. I personally LOVE them, and I use them on my team. The annoying ones I don’t use. Like flash. LOL You people are weird. 🙂

          • Gikie

            I think some of us don’t like having an HM slave as a 6th slot on our team. It limits what favorites we want to use in game

  • FrenzyBurn

    Ground Types have way too many problems. They re the magikarps of typing rn

    • Ithsme

      Rock types are weaker tbh.

  • Pokemania88

    Hi guys, I just woke up and I’m not sure how to process all of this… Can you guys lend me your thoughts cuz I’m kind of confused about the new forms for older pokemon and the new gym leader thingy. THIS IS SO WIERD

    • PercyEspeon

      It’s weird, but I like it. Very interesting and it adds some good change to the core formulas of Pokemon, at least to me 🙂

      • Pokemania88

        I know but what about gym battles?

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Well they are replaced with something that is them in all but name.

        • PercyEspeon

          Instead of gyms, it’s the trials, the totem Pokemon, and the kahunas.
          It’s not equal, but it’s close enough to that concept.
          I doubt it’ll be permanent, it seems more of an Alola thing.
          But who knows? I keep getting surprised with Pokemon even now 🙂

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I love this unpredictability, it’s very exciting!

          • PercyEspeon

            Yeah, definitely appreciated, keeps me on my toes. No matter how much i predict and theorize, GF likes to topple everything I do to the ground.

    • Ithsme

      The new Alola form Pokemon are adaptions to the climate. They are the best.

      • Pokemania88

        But what about this trial thing. It’s not even a battle anymore. We aren’t getting 8 battles anymore??

        • Tev-Da-Trainer

          There might be eight trails.

          • Pokemania88

            But they aren’t battles?

          • Ithsme

            Aren’t exclusively battles. I feel like they will be battles, but after the other part of the trial.

          • RaichuKeaton

            they are still battles (maybe not all but you do battle at least some of them, possibly all of them)

          • Tev-Da-Trainer

            I dunno I’m just as confused as you lol

        • Ithsme

          4 trial masters + 4 kahunas = 8 pseudo leaders

          • Pokemania88

            But battles?

    • Tev-Da-Trainer

      Alolan Formes are kinda like a Pokemon having Formes in different environments. Really fucking cool if you ask me.

      • EarthenWarrior

        But let’s not go overboard
        Not everything will change based on environmental influences

        • But that’s Darwin’s evolution right?

          Survival of the fittest, adapt or die.

          • RaichuKeaton

            Yeah! Adapt or die Earthen! (lol jk)

          • EarthenWarrior

            Adapt to the shift in the shape of your skull
            *Wallop*

          • EarthenWarrior

            Darwin would be rolling over in his grave if he saw this

          • Ithsme

            “What have I done?!?”

          • The ones that haven’t adapted just aren’t on these islands.

          • Gikie

            Yes indeed! And epigenetics confirms it as your environment can determine the expression of once repressed genes

        • Tev-Da-Trainer

          Of course not all Pokemon are going to get formes.

          • Wes

            It’s already confirmed that Exeggcute doesn’t get a form, so it’s not even whole lines that would get them. They seem to know how to incorporate real world logic into these variants.

  • Wes

    Thanks to this news I’m starting to get a solid idea for my teams. In Moon, I’ll be using Alola-native Pokemon: Popplio, Mimikyu, Lurantis, and Minior. In Sun, I’ll use Alola variant Pokemon, with Exeggutor being the only one I’m sure on.

    • RaichuKeaton

      i hope we get a variant thats a ghost type

      • Wes

        Banette variant:

        • RaichuKeaton

          lol, or mimikyu

  • Michael A. Lozoya

    Personally I don’t want to believe that the starters’ final stages are split unto two. I guess it could cool but it sucks that the other gen starters don’t get the same.

    Also I hope that while this gen won’t have Megas that it doesn’t mean later gens wont have megas. Dang it I would at least want them to give megas to all the starters’ final stages if they were gonna discontinue that concept.

    • Ithsme

      I have no doubt in my mind that Megas are back, but as a postgame feature.

      • Michael A. Lozoya

        Let’s hope, that’d be cool for postgame fun.

  • darkomaraven

    can someone tell me where they got the “wo final evolutions for each starter” thing???? actually, where did they get MOST of the brand new info???

    • RaichuKeaton

      4chan I’m pretty sure

      • darkomaraven

        ah thank you i’ll go look there

        • RaichuKeaton

          see my comment above

          • darkomaraven

            i went through and found some screenshots of it

      • SnappyK

        I’m looking for the source too. I’m surfing 4chan but I can’t find it.

        • RaichuKeaton

          its old stuff that ended up coming true, not recent

  • Ithsme

    Woah woah woah. Will Vulpix still use a fire stone to evolve?

    • Probably have to go to that ice rock like Glaceon does?

      Or new Ice Stone, so Glaceon doesn’t have to.

    • Gikie

      That’s what I’m trying to figure out myself. Somewhere/someone [it was] said that transferring from gen 6 to gen 7 keeps the original typing and moves

    • SnappyK

      Maybe the Pokemon you transfer from RBY will be Alolan. Have only seen Gen 1 changed typing right?

      • Ithsme

        That true, yet odd.

    • Poketard101

      They might have new stones, or a different method of evolution, like trading it while it’s holding a certain item. 😀

    • Michael A. Lozoya

      Since the Vulpix is Ice type itself there’s no reason why it couldn’t just evovle normally by leveling up.

  • kev

    I’m almost sure that ash is gonna get the cat in the anime. The bird final form would be too similar to greninja (mysterious and cool) and the water one… well, it’s quite obvious that that’s not gonna happen at all. lol

  • Armaggedon16

    I’ve seen a lot of people complain about the Alola Forms,Island Trails, and Z-Moves. But I love them. Pokemon has been the same game for 19 years, we need change.

    Gyms were always boring. Having different trials and Totem Pokemon is a breath of fresh air.

    Alola Forms are a very cool idea. Ice/Fairy Ninetales is awesome. It also makes sense since the pokemon living in alola could have adapted and thus evolved differently

    I don’t care about Z-Moves really. They could be related to Zygarde, and that’s what interests me.

    New pokemon are awesome. I love the bird and how it varies from island to island. Not mention that awesome ability. Minior sucks. The two grass types are awesome. Yungoose evo is what I expected. I’m happy
    That Mudsdale has a pre evo.

    Riding is being improved and I’m very excited for it.

    All in all, I love Everything revealed. The only thing bad about this leak is that it means the starter evos are legit. And I hate all of them.

    • FrenzyBurn

      Too long did not read sadly

      • You only say this to troll and say “I don’t care”, I am I reading that right? <3

    • Gikie

      Agreed, except for the starters. I actually like them. Idk why, but something had me hooked

      • PercyEspeon

        Same, although I didn’t like Litten’s evo at first, it’s grown on me. I wouldn’t mind it if it was Fire/Dark and was more inspired by a heel wrestler like people are saying

        • Gikie

          Fire/Dark would make me happy. Though, I’m not opposed to Fire/Fighting, there’s already a good small amount of them.

          • PercyEspeon

            True, there isn’t enough Fire/Fighting, but we had 3 starters go down the Fire/Fighting path, it just is old now, really.
            I’ll still use it, but I’ll just be a bit disappointed if Litten turned out that way

    • Moonlight Marble

      Minior is so amazing! One of the only Rock types I like

  • Michael A. Lozoya

    Different base stats for the pokemon are cool like the Spec. Attack and Attack being flipped as well as Spec. Defence and Defence. That way pokemon teams can be more varried.

    RIP Smogon’s sanity lol.

    • PercyEspeon

      Poor Smogon.
      And with the different forms/abilities, I feel sorry for all the people who need to handle all of that.

  • Variant typings existed in the TCG already before. Remember that Water-type Dragonite? And other things? Yeah!

    • Ithsme

      The delta forms!

      • And Pokemon-EX as well.

  • Moonlight Marble

    We’ve already seen regular arcanine… Didn’t someone say only Alola forms would be in Alola and other forms needed to be transferred/ traded?

    • Ithsme

      Yeah, that is odd.

    • PercyEspeon

      That is true! :O
      Maybe we were facing a Trainer’s mon? Sure, there was no person behind it, but maybe they took this out to make it easier for the trailers.

    • ShinyXatu

      Notice how all of these Pokemon are from Kanto. They can all be transferred from R/B/Y! It’s easier to get normal Kanto Pokemon than we probably think.

      • Ithsme

        But that would mean locking Alola forms behind a paywall.

        • ShinyXatu

          No no, that would mean locking normal forms behind a paywall. But they can also be transferred from any other Pokemon game ever.

          • Ithsme

            Oh. I misunderstood. I’d be fine with that.

          • “Only” an $5 Bank subscription and a copy of XYORAS or VC-RBY… heh heh heh.

  • Green

    I wonder if there’ll be Alolan Exeggcute which are 6 coconuts

    • Wes

      It’s just the same sad pile of eggs we know and (don’t) love. See the Japanese trailer.

      • Green

        ;~; Aww man…. I really wanted 6 Grass/Water Coconuts

    • RaichuKeaton

      naw its already confirmed that its the same

  • Ithsme

    I hope the Alola forms aren’t exclusively for gen 1 Pokemon, that would be weird. Why would only gen 1 Pokemon be able to adapt?

    • Exeledus

      yeah this is something I’m kinda worried about myself.

    • Moonlight Marble

      a lot of Megas were gen 1 too… It’s because for some reason it’s the most popular gen

    • If gen 1 ‘moms are the only ones with new forms It’s probably just because S/M is the 20th anniversary game.

      • RaichuKeaton

        sad because genwunners will probably still hate them (as they do with all change and new things because they are not really fans, just nostalgia blind)

      • Ithsme

        Celebrate 20 whole years, not just one year!

  • Exeledus

    this is very overwhelming, but also pretty awesome. I like the alolan forms, it only makes sense that pokemon would adapt to their habitats. also Gumshoos…. when I look at it, it makes me think of a detective in a trench coat, (stakeout, something detectives do) and also detective gumshoe from ace attourney lol

    • I hope the next time Looker appears he has a Gumshoos It’d fit him a lot more than Croagunk.

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        Well rumor has it that he will be in this game so…..

      • Well RIP Croagunk… but he really needs a new partner and Gumshoos seems to be the one for the job.

  • Ithsme

    Metamorphis = called evolution
    Real evolution = called “form”

    Pokemon logic

    • Green

      That’s what I was thinking.

  • Richard Haslam

    question: if the leak is true, will Cynthia be wearing the blue top as seen in the Black and White anime, considering that it’s going to be tropical? Or her usual black glory.

  • FlamingFairies

    I LOVE THE NEWS!!!! i am honestly still processing all this information but it’s a good day to love pokemon 🙂 😀

    • Poketard101

      I’m with you. I am loving all this!!!!! XD

  • VictorMCP

    I. Want. A. Fire/Flying. Pegasus Rapidash. NOW.

  • Ithsme

    If only Gen 1 Pokemon can have Alola forms, I’m going to start getting ticked off with all the gen 1 favoritism. I know it’s the 20th anniversary and all, but still. Let’s celebrate 20 years of Pokemon, and not celebrate just one game.

    • FlamingFairies

      yeah that’s true :/

      • Ithsme

        This whole year has been gen 1 homage after homage, it’s getting tiring. Gen 1 isn’t the only game, we are supposed to be celebrating all 20 years!

        • Exeledus

          yeah, my TCG collection would have loved a “Fire starter collection” (water/grass) with all the starters as alternate art EX pokemon, but nooooooooo, gotta shove more gen 1 down my throat.

          • Ithsme

            Gen 1 is also far from the best game, but now we are getting into controversial territory, so I’ll cut myself off.

        • Poketard101

          Well not to me its not!

          Holly shit people, get of you complaining box, and look at all the awesome stuff they just reviled. Like really, instead of complaining and ruining everyone else happy hours, (non alcoholic) talk about the stuff that you DO like.

          • Ithsme

            I’m sorry if I offended you, I’m just making a fair point. Gen 1 isn’t what we should be celebrating here, it should be Pokemon as a whole.

          • FlamingFairies

            well that’s also true i guess they can add regional forms in future gens now it’s a thing 🙂

    • Exeledus

      finally someone says it. this is what ticks me off the most about pokemon GO.

      • Ithsme

        To be fair, it was a smart decision, as it (unfortunately) brought in old fans.

        • Exeledus

          which really bugs me. they aren’t even hiding the fact that it is an obvious cash grab.

          • Ithsme

            Plus my experience with Genwunners is that they are mean (no offense if anyone here is a genwunner, but I doubt you are because we are taking about gen 7).

          • RaichuKeaton

            *I don’t like the use of the word retarted but i found this funny*

          • Ithsme

            XD

          • Gikie

            Some people I went to grad school with are genwunners and, yes, they’re mean. They feel superior, at least the ones I’ve encountered. I was like that once, then I played B2. Now I love all generations

          • Ithsme

            Genwunners I’ve passed playing Pokemon GO acted like they knew more than me because “it was their generation”.

          • RaichuKeaton

            I hate when they do that, and tbh, most of them only really care about one pokemon… Charizard, which is why I had/sometimes still have such a hate for Charizard over the years, because its the catalyst for ignorance

          • Ithsme

            Wow. What a great way to explain that. Always liked Bulbasaur (the forgotten one :'( ) more

          • Gikie

            My favorite Mega!

          • Gikie

            On GO I chose Charmander because I had a feeling it’s not as abundant where I live. Bulbasaur and Squirtle pip up more often. Charizard is so overrated

          • Kurogawa Ryuji

            i prefer ninetails than charizard

          • Gikie

            It’s dumb because it’s everyone’s generation. My niece wanted to start playing the originals, but liked the new graphics so I got her Fire Red. Gen 1-ish was her gen too

          • Pharap

            Ask them which pokemon was designed first and if they don’t say “Rhydon”, punch them for me.

          • Pharap

            I avoided it precisely because it was a cash grab among many other reasons. Plus the number of people who only play Pokemon GO and won’t attempt to pick up the main series game when it arrives is annoying.

            As a side note, Shuffle and Rumble are keeping me content. (As well as IV training).

    • SnappyK

      Seriously. Why is Charizard the one we’re flying on? Other bird Pokemon would look more natural. Gimme Honchkrow.

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        Most bird Pokemon are really small.

      • Gikie

        Wished it was Dragonite or anything else

    • Wes

      Everyone needs to chill. We literally only got three lines. It’s too soon to make assumptions that will only cause anger.

      • Ithsme

        Yeah I know. :/ But it worries me how the ones mentioned in the leak are all gen 1.

      • Pharap

        Also the number of fan made gen 1 Kanto pokemon are disproportionate. I’m beginning to believe a lot of people cap out at remembering 151 pokemon.

    • Armaggedon16

      I agree. Gen 1 wasn’t even good. I seriously hope we get Alola forms for other pokemon and That Other gens are added in GO

    • Poketard101

      They NEVER said that it was JUST for gen 1 Pokemon, why is it that you all assume that just because they showed only gen 1 Pokemon in the commercial, that they aren’t making alternate forms for other Gens as well. Holly crap people.

      • Ithsme

        Calm down. I’m just making a point. The ones in the leaks, which are likely true, are all gen 1 as well.

      • Pharap

        Actually we’re assuming it because people keep making fan art of gen 1 alola forms and ignoring the other ~570 pokemon available.

    • rhomba

      What worries me more is the possibility of only getting 60-70 new Pokemon and rest being new forms of gen one Pokemon.

    • Daniel Rojas

      I wonder what this means to the amount of NEW Pokemon we will get.. This might make design easier for GF and all, but I don’t think it looks good for the numbers being higher than XY

  • Tarik

    alakasam is fighting? I don’t get it someone explain. They’re changing old poke typings?

    • Have you seen the English trailer that just came out? Watch it first, then you will understand. (See what they did to Vulpix, for example.)

      • Tarik

        oooh…just saw the trailer. Holy crap.

    • Gikie

      It’s not permanent, only for the Alola region

    • libra

      These are not permanent. This is why it’s an Alola form. This also happens in nature as Pokemon are based on actual animals.

  • Moonlight Marble

    Guys I have more proof for my idea that the island names are Yellow, Red, Purple and Pink! Not only the tag on the bags for those competing in the island challenge are these colours but so are that new bird dancer Pokemon! Different colours for each island…

    • Ithsme

      Islands will be MeleMele, Poni, Ula Ula, and Akala.

  • Gikie

    The biodiversity withing pokemon species is Oh Em Gee! I feel like I’m 11 again

  • EarthenWarrior

    Alright let’s get something clear
    Alolan Variants seem to be based solely on Environmental Adaptations
    So I don’t believe that everything will get abrupt forms
    I can believe such a hyper tropic ecosystem would cause such an accelerated growth

    • RaichuKeaton

      I don’t think it was really accelerated, the pokemon probably came over to the region like an extremely long time ago and then adapted slowly over time to their habitat, you know, like real life..

  • Pokemania88

    Wow this was a lot of info and plus it confirmed this leak

    But I’m still iffy on the trials. Because I want them to be battles..

  • Mr. M

    Is this news real?

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Yes

  • I wonder if that certain guy that I blocked and whose comments I can’t read is raging already. Heh heh heh. (Not Earthen, he’s too cool to block.)

    • Ithsme

      Not on here, at least I can’t see him.

    • RaichuKeaton

      I haven’t seen him in a long while but I’m sure when he does come on he’ll be raging (not sure if I blocked him or not actually so maybe he is here)

    • PercyEspeon

      If we are talking about the same person, I haven’t seem this person in awhile…

      • Wes

        Neither have I. And I’ve never blocked anyone.

        • PercyEspeon

          Same 🙂
          I see the value in all opinions and viewpoints, even if it might get a bit too much. Plus, with most people, you can communicate with them and have a good time. :3

          • Ithsme

            I’m not about to block anyone, but I don’t want to see him here again.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            They could be really nice though :/ They just really didn’t like the news. If they came back I just hope they would be in a better mood :3

          • Ithsme

            Clearly you weren’t here when things got heated. xD

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I was, we fought intensely and it was horrible. There were times they were nice though and if they were willing to act like they did then I would welcome them back.

          • Ithsme

            I regret participating in the fight, but it’s too late. But it wasn’t that he just disliked he news, it was more than that.

          • RaichuKeaton

            He literally said at one point though that he thinks we all deserve to die and pretty much wishes he could be the one to do it, so I wouldn’t give him that benefit of the doubt…

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I am not giving them the benifit of the doubt, I have actually had pleasant conversations with them. They were horrible to all of us, but if they could be more respectful I wouldn’t exclude them.

          • RaichuKeaton

            fair enough, you are a better person than I thats for sure, 😛

          • PercyEspeon

            I can understand why 🙂 he did say some very negative things towards me and other people.
            But I did have a few good convos with him, so I can forgive him slightly 🙂

          • Ithsme

            I’m not trying to be mean, but he clearly has issues that needed to be worked out. If he is all over that (I know it’s not easy to get past but it’s not impossible) then he’s welcome back (at least in my eyes).

          • Wes

            Anyone should always be welcome here. He had different opinions and a different temperament, but this is a community where everyone is welcome. And I think it may be a bit rude to be discussing him in such a way; you never know if he’s reading these comments anonymously. 🙂

          • Ithsme

            True, but as you said, anyone should be welcome, and the way he acted was not welcoming to anyone. I’ll leave it at that, you’re right, we shouldn’t be discussing this.

          • Well at some point sometimes a person is just too negative and all they do is spout expletives and threats without even trying to convince people of anything. 🙂

            I am an optimist but I decided that his posts are excessively unhealthy. Kekeke.

          • PercyEspeon

            That’s true, and whenever it did, I just didn’t read them/ignored them. I still had some nice convos so it wasn’t worth blocking anyone, in my eyes.

      • Pokemania88

        Is it, the guy? Like the one who dislikes gaming?

        • RaichuKeaton

          idk, he seems to like persona quite a bit

        • Ithsme

          He who must not be named.

          • RaichuKeaton

            naw, voldmort is more another member of the community, says some crazy things sometimes but tolerable.

            This guy was more like Umbridge….

    • Gikie

      Haven’t seen him/her, but let’s keep this out of here. Respect others as you would want to even if others don’t show it to you. Not trying to start anything, but I also don’t want him/her to come in and be triggered with the talking behind his/her back

      • Wes

        I completely agree. As I said below, you never know if he’s reading or not.

      • Well I’m sorry that I don’t have a limitless tolerance for all kinds of people and negativity.

        Maybe you’re a better person than I am, and you’re good at psychotherapy, so more power to you.

        • PercyEspeon

          Regardless, I think respect should still be there, even if you don’t care for the person.

        • Gikie

          I’m not mad at you and I get where you’re coming from. I’ve butted heads with him/her before. Just try not to let the negativity get the better of you. You’re a nice person and I respect your feelings and opinion, otherwise I wouldn’t have responded if I didn’t care

      • RaichuKeaton

        if you had seen some of the things that he said to members of the community, some of which were being quite kind to him I doubt you would think that way, I’m all for respecting others, but this guy literally, and I mean literally wishes physical harm upon others, among other things that are bad even in internet terms

        • Gikie

          If there was a way to private message you, I would be more than happy to explain

          • RaichuKeaton

            no I get it, I really do, two wrongs do not make a right, I guess I just had a limit and the person totally destroyed it and disrespected some amazing people on this site. I will try not to talk about them when they are not present though, it is something I am working on, trying to work to better myself and rise above hate, but its difficult sometimes

          • Gikie

            I am proud of you. If you need any advice I am here. I understand that what was being said was totally wrong, but let’s learn and move on. Your on the right path

        • PercyEspeon

          I did see it, and I even was there confronting him about it. The things he said may be wrong, but it’s wrong to talk when he’s not there and disrespect him.
          There is some good there, it’s just hard to see at times. 🙂

  • Mr. M

    When comes this news on serebii.net?

    • Ithsme

      Now.

    • libra

      It’s there now…

    • Serebii Joe only can’t post the starter pics at the risk of getting Cease and Desist.

    • Wes

      Serebii only updates with officially revealed information. As these are only leaks, they’re likely to not be included in Joe’s feed.

  • CoolGlaceon

    I’m really excited for the Regional Forms now. Can Sun and Moon come sooner please?

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Lol, let them take their time, so it can be as good as possible 😉

      • Ithsme

        I hope they used their off year to learn from XY mistakes!

      • CoolGlaceon

        GOTTA HAVE THAT LONG NECKED EXEGGUTOR IN AMIE LIKE RIGHT NOW

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Oh I forgot about Amie! That will be THE BEST!!!

        • That brings a question of if there’s a SCROLL BAR in Amie just for Exeggutor…

          • CoolGlaceon

            Or we’re stuck to grooming its tail head

          • Well to access that head, Amie has to have a rotate feature as well… Unless the “back” is shown by default…

  • TheRece25

    ..

    • Ithsme

      Refreshed expecting a picture. Dissapointed lol

      • TheRece25

        Now u feel as me..

    • Kneesus

      Same

  • libra

    Island Challenge Trails based on info:
    Lana – Finding a rare or special Water-Type.
    Mallow – Finding four ingredients.
    Sophocles – Solving a puzzle.
    Kiawe – Finding the difference in dances.
    Still, that incoming Fire or Fire/Ground Marowak.

    • Gikie

      Fire/Ground Typhlosion is still a possibility! Sorry, just a bit excited rn haha.

      Also, what is rf? I’m an old

      • Galemcaedus

        Fire/Ground Typhlosion!

      • “rf” is extreme shorthand for “refresh”.

        Which is because in new posts sometimes we don’t see the pics so pic posters often ask to reload the page. But I guess you already knew this with the exception of the shorthand.

        • Gikie

          Thank you lol

  • Victor Troche

    Really dissapointed with the Alolan forms. Never had an issue with any Gen except this one. And of the starters the only cool one is Rowlets evo.

    • Kneesus

      Just use a starter from another gen if you can’t get around it. I know I can’t so I’m using cyndaquill.

      • TheRece25

        It wouldn’t be the same..

    • TheRece25

      I’m Definitely changing to team Rowlett as well!

      • Wes

        It looks like many people are changing teams! :p

        I’ve actually changed from Team Litten to Team Popplio.

  • Mr. M

    When comes the Pokedex page on serebii.net?

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      When the game comes out.

  • Dicie

    If there’s anything I wonder, it would have to be where the name Z Moves comes from. Could it have ties to Zygarde and a potential Kalos postgame?

  • TheRece25

    So what are their typings?

    • CoolGlaceon

      Apparently
      Grass/Flying
      Fire/Dark
      Water/Fairy

      • EarthenWarrior

        I refuse to believe those types

        • CoolGlaceon

          Prepare for it. Fairies will be taking up 50% of the Alolan Pokedex

          • TheRece25

            And flying.. then but myb

      • libra

        I think Water3 might have a chance to be Water/Ice. Still, I love the idea of Water/Fairy.

        • Dicie

          As do I! Still not sure about my starter, though…

      • Ithsme

        Where did you get fire dark?

        • Dicie

          Completely speculative at this point, though it’s a solid guess looking at its design.

          • Ithsme

            Saying its fire dark seems like denial. Embrace the fire fighting future!

          • TheRece25

            Lol. .. 😅

        • CoolGlaceon

          It’s been tossed around a couple of times a while ago

        • Wes

          It’s obviously a fighter, but with the fire belt and the wicked claws on his massive hands, it looks like it would utilize shady tactics in a fight, ergo Dark-type.

    • Unfortunately, the starter typings weren’t directly part of the leak, or at least the reddit thread we’ve seen. But we can guess.

      Though my guess for Pops is Water/Ice contrary to the popular view.

  • CoolGlaceon

    Cynthia in Sun and Moon will be glooooooriousssssss

  • TheRece25

    My life is upside down now .-. .. Pokemon..
    Y u Do dis?

    • Kneesus

      Which one you hate the most, the water right?

      • TheRece25

        It just doesn’t even look like a Pokemon to me…. Like… Wut

        • libra

          They look like Pokemon to me… because their Pokemon. They don’t look to bad to me! We have feminine looking male Pokemon.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Yeah they also are very much Sugimori’s style.

          • TheRece25

            Yeah.. I get some of u like it…

        • Kneesus

          It doesn’t either to me. Try a different starter or use one from previous generation. All hope is lost for me. It’s not that it’s feminine because I love gardevoir, it’s just ugh.

          • TheRece25

            Exactly. Really wondering how they will make this bottom heavy thing battle on land

          • Kneesus

            It’s great for like a pokemon contest but to each it’s own. If the extra evolution is true for starters, I might give it another try.

          • TheRece25

            Exactly! That’s the Only place I see it… A stage

        • Wes

          You could always choose another starter. Or just stop evolving at whatever stage you’re satisfied with.

          • TheRece25

            I may. I have no problem with eviolite

          • Kneesus

            But what if they’re all bad. It kind of ruins the fun of playing the game with a starter. At least for me.

          • Wes

            Well you’re allowed to have your opinions, but I have no problem with ditching a starter if I’d rather use something else. However, there’s always been at least one starter that I liked, and with the last three generations I’ve loved the underdogs (Popplio3, Delphox, and Samurott).

          • brad

            Delphox was no underdog (at least, in the beginning, before final evolutions were revealed). I was team Chespin from the beginning until the end <3
            I liked Popplio, but dislike it's final evo :/

          • Wes

            I was speaking of the final evolutions, not the basic stages. It’s a pretty common consensus that Delphox and Samurott were the most hated of their trios.

          • brad

            … I love Samurott <3 (though I'm aware I'm an outlier hahaha)

          • Kneesus

            I used Delphox and samurott and enjoyed as well. It most likely will come down to using a previous starter or maybe the grass one will grown on me, who knows.

  • CoolGlaceon

    Sun and Moon not only touching upon Mythology and Alchemy but Biology now too? Damn

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Lots of research went into this game, that’s for sure 🙂

  • AlolanSandschrew

    team:
    Rowlet
    Alolan Sandshrew (uh duh)
    Rockruff (depends on final)

    and pending, I think other alolan versions of gen 1.

    • Ithsme

      What was your old name? (Are you the last kurusu?)

      • AlolanSandschrew

        “littenitup” yeah I know… Ditched Litten of course

  • Alolan Ninetales

    I’m so excited for the Alolan Ninetales c:

    • AlolanSandschrew

      nais name 😉

  • Those starter evos are horrible.

    • Kneesus

      Almost gen 5 horrible ….almost

      • AlolanSandschrew

        I love Serperior! It wasn’t that strong though

        • TheRece25

          It is with hidden ability. Me too

          • AlolanSandschrew

            did not have that one then I guess

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Gen 5 is probably my favorite, but it does have the worst starters.

        • AlolanSandschrew

          it has some of my faves yes! Volcarona whoopwhoop

        • i have to agree, gen 5 has one of the best designs even though they did kinda overdo alot of things

        • Victor Troche

          Lol I dunno based on final evos this gen is taking that title

      • I’d dare say… worse.. (Emboar’s design isn’t bad)

  • Nintendalek42

    Thanks for clarifying this! I was wondering what rumours were confirmed exactly.

    My main thought on all this:

    -Still divided between my love for the rowlet evo, my dissapointment in the popplio one, and my hatred for cancerous luchador tony the tiger. Eh, I’ll warm up to them.

    -The other bits of the rumour look tantalising though, as do the extra rumours posted by people below Though multiple starter evos is kind of a red flag for this new 4chan thing. For a second I thought this rumour had been well constructed in a short time, but turns out it’s from April. This makes me highly suspicious of it as it actually doesn’t have any overlap with the new info (or the chinese rumours for that matter) other than the base concept. It seems more like the op came up with his own concept for regional variation and got lucky. Read their post, no mention of type changing (unlike everything that’s legit, plus the chinese rumour), and no actual pokemon overlapping apart from a vague mention of dodrio. You know what, I’m calling fake on it IMO.

    -Z moves I’m completely indifferent to, not excited or annoyed but happy you need to carry the item so it’s not broken AF, makes standard pokemon and prevos somewhat able to compete with megas, I like that. They also seem to kill the idea of synchro, and thank Arceus. Could still be wrong on that, but I really hope not. Alola forms are so much of a better idea.

    -Dafuq we’re getting our next news as soon as the 12th? Smells like corocoro preemption to me..

    A few other thoughts:

    – Lurantis not bug type, thanks trollfreak…though the suggestions it’s supposed to be a reversed mantis orchid do save this for me, if true.

    -OK why the hell are they “Z” moves and why “Z” power? Something to do with Zygarde or pokemon Z? According to Masuda interviews from the Japan Expo (from Pokebip, probs the biggest french site I believe), they didn’t really even consider making a Z, they just wanted to go straight to the next step… Which goes against this being named in reference to a scrapped Z version. But then again it’s too soon for Gamefreak to look good (in their eyes judging by their secretive nature) revealing the scrapped a game, and trollfreak be trollfreak and also wetellyouonlywhatwewanttotellyouFreak, so you never know, he may very well have been obfuscating to hide things, he’s not averse to it… Or it could just be stuff to do with Zygarde, as others have suggested. Wow this gen is getting complicated.

    -What with the Alola variant pokemon, and gamefreak reducing the number of new pokemon in XY because megas took up new design slots, I fear we’ll barely get more pokemon than XY. Well, maybe if they go with the “odd gens=130-160 new pokemon” ethic, we’ll get a hundred or so (eh, that’s actually pretty good compared to XY). And alarmingly they’re still being overzealous with the reveals… Don’t you dare reveal over 50% of the pokedex or all the new forms again Gamefreak! That’s just an absolutely sh*t marketing strategy and disappointing for most fans.

    -Also I’m calling it now, thanks to variants, no new megas. Hope it ain’t true, but I’d rather not get my hopes up. And that’s if we even get megas. I’m not expecting them to be dumb (or ballsy, or both) enough to remove them, but some people suggesting it is enough to scare me. I’m backing those who think megas will be postgame, there’s way too much mechanics to deal with in the main story as is.

    – The suggestion from the Alola form descriptions that we get stat changes does give fighting alakazam a bit more potential sense stats wise, assuming they don’t go the troll route and leave it with unusable attack. But wait what happens to mega alakazam?? does it become fighting too? Another mega instead? So many weird implications from this!

    -And a final treat theory for those who read this far: What if yungoos were hunting alolan dark-type ratatas all along?

    • Well regarding Corocoro, I’m guessing they have been de-emphasized as a source of info since they have to print the thing by the 12th (?) to get it on the streets by the 15th, so the possibility for leaks of people getting the magazine early is just too high.

      Well the reason for calling them Z-moves is still a mystery, but I’m guessing it does have something to do with Zygarde. Maaaaaybe Zygarde is part of a postgame mission that unlocks these powers?

  • TheRece25

    So does this mean… Those are all of ash’s pokemon likely? Looks Like he’s going for cutesy again.. 😒

  • libra

    Instead of bashing the starters; what Alola form are you all looking forward to the most? For now, it looks exclusive to the Kanto region, but I hope other regions are involved. I really want to see the Water Growlithe Line! Yet, we’re getting a bunch of Fighting Types. I kinda want to see a Ghost Type Abra Line.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Didn’t the rumor say the abra line would be fighting? It sounds very interesting none the less.

      • libra

        It did! I just wanted to see a Ghost line instead!

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Yeah, hopefully it’s one of the mistakes the leaker made 😉

        • Well since they messed up Ninetales’ type, I’m positive that perhaps more of the Alola formes are gonna be different from the leak as well.

          • AlolanSandschrew

            well now you can have 2 ninetales in ur team without conflicting types 😉

          • Well the leak got Alola Ninetales’ type wrong (they said Fire/Fairy), so that’s the most likely part the leak was wrong and the other mentioned stuff could have different types.

          • AlolanSandschrew

            I mean like:

            Alolan Ninetales ice fairy
            Regular Ninetales fire

            two Ninetales in one team without the same type

        • RaichuKeaton

          ghost type abra line would be dope! and i would add it to my team in a second

        • AlolanSandschrew

          alolan ninetales couldve been easily been a ghost type..

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      Alola Pikachu

      • AlolanSandschrew

        don’t think they r gonna change pikapika

      • It’s gonna be Water so it’ll justify surfing Pika…

        • TheRece25

          What about flying pika!?

    • EarthenWarrior

      I really hope they keep it simply Kanto now

      • Gikie

        Fairy Rhyperior

        • EarthenWarrior

          Why must you torment me

          • Gikie

            I’m sorry I just couldn’t help it. What would you want?

          • EarthenWarrior

            Still Ground, they way it should be

          • Gikie

            Ground/Fighting? When you mentioned that combo way back when, I was hooked

          • EarthenWarrior

            I only mentioned Ground/Fighting for a totally unique Pokemon

          • The rugby-playing gorilla that looks more and more likely since it’s part of this leak?

          • EarthenWarrior

            Look I don’t trust any of the leaks regardless of what’s happening
            Some could be real while others are just leeching off them

          • Gikie

            The gorilla, right? I want it to happen

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          ROTHL

        • TheNintendoChip

          Rhyhorn & Rhydon are from Kanto, after all

      • libra

        Water/Fairy Rhyhorn line. 😉

        • EarthenWarrior

          That’s beyond stupid

          • TheRece25

            😂😂😂

          • André Luis

            But he learns surf…

        • AlolanSandschrew

          no man, bug 😉

        • Unlikely. 🙂

          • libra

            I kid obviously. 😉

        • Galemcaedus

          I would massacre it

    • Gikie

      Water Growlithe hype….boat?

      • AlolanSandschrew

        Yasssss

      • TheRece25

        I’ve always wanted one.. but Charizard… Maybe it’s water type will fit my team now

    • Pheobos

      I’m personally hoping for a roserade line variant
      Grass Fairy or Grass water i think would be cool to see

    • CoolGlaceon

      Alolan Lumineon. That thing is soooo forgotten.

      • Natsu

        Finneon and Lumineon are so underrated and understandably so, but come on, Lumineon’s coloration and design is superb.

        • AlolanSandschrew

          meh i dont like it

        • TheNintendoChip

          I wholeheartedly agree. Lumineon is easily my favorite water-type pokemon!

      • Tev-Da-Trainer

        Lumineon has such a beautiful cry.

    • Dicie

      I’d love to see something crazy happen to Dodrio along the same lines of Exeggutor. Maybe Hypno can gain another type that adds to its lore?

      • André Luis

        Yeah, like dark, ghost… or fairy.

    • Maybe an Alolan Ludicolo, different belly pattern to feel the Hawaiian vibe~

    • AlolanSandschrew

      I would love to see a new version of Electabuzz, lapras or maybe even a grass rapidash?

  • Dicie

    Hmm. I’ve given it a lot of thought, but here’s my current team for S/M.
    Popplio
    Fomantis
    Rockruff
    Salandit
    Some form of Oricorio
    Alolan Sandshrew

    But as more Pokemon get revealed, we’ll have to see where this list goes!

    • AlolanSandschrew

      Alolan Sandshrew says hi

  • CoolGlaceon

    What I like about these new Pokemon is how lively and full of character they are. From the small descriptions given on the site to the idle animations of the Pokemon in-game, GameFreak is going out of their way to ensure that each and every one of them have their own little unique detail. I highly appreciate the effort that they have put in this game.

  • TheRece25

    Does anyone else Still not know what they want on their team? Maybe I’m waiting for stats..

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Yeah, although I usually don’t plan a team and just catch what I find.

      • AlolanSandschrew

        well mine is far from complete, maybe I will box all the new ones and go with an all gen 1 alolan team

    • Gikie

      I had an idea, then the Alola variants came out lol

    • All I know is that Mimikyu will definitely be on it. I’m not using any of the starters.

    • TheNintendoChip

      I generally don’t plan a team until I see the final evolutions (I like to have dual-type pokemon). Currently thinking of having Rowlet/Popplio, Pikipek/Oricorio, Mimikyu, and Komala.

    • Exeledus

      so far, popplio, Bewear, Lurantis, and Ninetails

      • TheRece25

        That’s a cute contest team

        • Exeledus

          I like my pokemon beautiful. that alolan ninetails is making me break my rule of only that gen’s pokemon for my first playthrough.

          • TheRece25

            Omg… Ikr.. I wanted to stick to one gen at a time as I always do.. but technically isn’t it a gen 7 pokemon now? That’s what I’m telling myself anyways hehe. I may want the water arcanine
            You should add the new electric flying cheerleader bird hehe

          • Exeledus

            I kinda like the ghost one and the psychic personally. but, id like to weigh my options and find some more pokemon before I fill up those last 2 spots.

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      No. What’s the point of planning a team before the game comes out? I prefer going through “Oh look at that it looks awesome!

      • I do that too, but it’s fun to speculate.

        Then once the game is acquired, all hell breaks loose and I just pick up what comes by… like that Panpour from my first ever run of XY…

    • CoolGlaceon

      Popplio, for now. I’m liking all of the Fairy types they’ve introduced so far, the probability of me going Mono-Fairy would actually be very likely

      • RaichuKeaton

        Join me on the darkside! ლ(́◉◞౪◟◉‵ლ)

    • I’m probably going Water-Mono this gen.

      I’d not worry about stats. For in-game, stats are easily overcome with EV’s (even randomly gained ones) and more levels.

  • Natsu

    Definitely getting Rowlet as my starter. However, I do love the designs of the other two starters. Popplio reminds me of Ariel and Litten reminds me of the beast from The Boy and the Beast. Honestly, I don’t understand the hate the starters are getting; these are very well designed Pokemon and unless you somehow got the games early, how can you judge something based solely on appearance? Just as the old saying goes: don’t judge a book by its cover. GameFreak is truly changing and spicing things up after 20 years of the same formula and I could not be happier. Instead of focusing on the negative aspects, try to see the positive side so that your level of excitement does not slump. 😀

  • libra

    Seriously. I know opinions clash and I’m not trying to start a heated debate, but why do people dislike the final evolutions? At the start, I hated them and regared them as fake. Now, I’ve warmed up to their designs as they gleam with personality! I’m a little mad that Litten isn’t on all fours, but that’s it.

    • Wes

      I honestly love them all!

    • EarthenWarrior

      I’m just upset because for once I was excited for Popplio
      But now it’s disgusting
      Sure Litten’s badass but that means choosing Litten….ill probably do everything to make it evolve fast

      • Naomi Kitty

        Litten is indeed a badass, should it be #teamfirecrotch or #teamwrestlercat ?

    • I actually don’t. 🙂

      I still picked Fennekin after everyone jumped ship to Greninja. (And I got Zapdos out of it, so…)

      • Wes

        #Instinct

        • The best bird competitively as the mascot for the worst GO team. 😀

          • RaichuKeaton

            Im a team instinct :c not that I really care about the teams though

          • Wes

            You misspelled “most amazing” GO team.

      • Pharap

        I regretted choosing Greninja. I was thinking “finally, I can live with a water starter” and then the final evo came and I was like “What have I done”. Never picking a water starter ever again.

    • RaichuKeaton

      when they were first introduced I disliked both litten and Popplio and was in love with Rowlet, now with the finals I hated both rowlet final and litten final, but instantly loved popplio final, now I have warmed up to the litten final and slowly warming up to rowlet final.

      I think people just need to give things a chance

      • Naomi Kitty

        indeed, I like Littens and Popplio’s when I first saw them but Rowlet eventually warmed up on me.

    • Natsu

      Beauty is based on the eye of the beholder. I think it’s due to how feminine Popplio is and how cliche Litten is. One broke a trope, the other one is too commonplace. I don’t understand the feminine argument for Popplio as males in the wild tend to have more colors and are more vivid compared to females and thought that was an old century thinking style, but color me surprised. As for Litten, people are tired of having muscular and masculine fire-starters as opposed to more creative and non-bipedal ones.

      • RaichuKeaton

        ^ this

      • Hen Tai

        This yo. A lot of starters in the past few gens have been highly detailed bipeds and it’s just not my gig, especially when–sigh–this one looks like yet another typical fire/fighting mashup. Even if it isn’t actually that type that’s how it looks. And the seel is just overdone on the feminine nature. Dewgong always struck me as a pretty and feminine Pokemon but not in the overblown creepy way this one comes off… only redeeming factor about it is that it seems a counterpart for masculine looking samurott. But yah, haven’t been this disappointed with starters in a while, and as I haven’t liked a full set since sapphire that’s even more sad.

    • Litten is extremely disappointing and I absolutely hate the fire crotch, Rowlett is pretty ok but that type will screw it over so bad, and I hate how Poppolio looks.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Well I don’t hate them anymore. I was only really dissapointed by Rowlet3’s strange design anyway but I’ve learned to love it 🙂

    • Gikie

      Exactly, I almost want Litten now haha. It’s hard because I love Rowlet so much.

    • Leo

      I never cared about the owl (even forgot its name) so it doesn’t really matter how its final evo is. I really disliked Popplio but if I get a female one I’m ok with the Siren. But what killed me was Litten: I loved it since the starters where announced. I love the alchemy symbol, the fact that it’s a cat and that it looks like my own cat. Its final evo should’ve been slim and on all fours, and definitely not fire/fighting (they’re so original). Even though I still love Litten I refuse to use that final evo, just like I do with Emboar.

    • Daniel Rojas

      I don’t mind the design (if they are true), I dislike the idea of another Fire/Fight starter..

    • For me, I don’t like Litten’s final form because it looks like another Fire/Fighting type, which at this point is boring AF and they should just not make any more pokemon (at least starters) with that typing. Plus, I liked LItten because it was cute, and it’s the only starter of the 3 whose final form isn’t cute in some way.

      For Popplio, I actually really like the final form, I just think it kind of comes out of nowhere because it’s so distinctly feminine while the starter form doesn’t look specifically feminine at all. I’d like it better if Popplio looked a little more like something that would evolve into that.

    • towelgirl21

      I love that Litten one. I wouldn’t completely rule him out as being Fire/Dark yet: he could be the “bad guy” wrestler that you can’t help but love.

      If it’s the final evolution, I may not pick Popplio after all.

    • Pharap

      I have nothing against Popplio’s evo.
      The wrestling tiger is awful.
      I don’t have an issue with fire-fighting starters, I just have an issue with this one.

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    What if they pull another Gen 6 and focus on reinventing old Pokémon instead of making new ones. That’s the only thing I’m worried about.

    • Wes

      I wouldn’t mind with Alolan Pokemon. At least these are permanent unlike megas.

    • Dicie

      With the amount of new Pokemon they’re revealing at a time, I’m hopeful we’re in for a 100+ final count. At least on the official website, these new formes are classified as “Alolan” rather than “New,” but you have a valid concern.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      I honestly doubt there will be enough Alolan forms to be a problem. With the number of new Pokemon they’re showing there should probobly be a good amount.

    • Tev-Da-Trainer

      Good point. Prior to X/Y being released they pretty much revealed all Kalos Pokemon.

    • I wouldn’t be surprised if they pull of a 151 to honor the first games!

      • Natsu

        That would be neat.

  • Exeledus

    ok I will be choosing popplio. I really wish I could go with litten, but not with that final evolution.

  • Green

    So, I realized a flaw in my OR party, none of my Pokémon can learn fly. Anyone know a Pokémon that can learn fly that is ‘smart’. I need to replace Metagross.

    • Exeledus

      just use latios

      • Green

        Nah. I don’t wanna use a legendary.

        • Exeledus

          you can use the eon flute to glide wherever you want, no need to have a pokemon with fly

          • Green

            I just don’t want to have to keep a Legendary in my Party, I’m still training it.

          • Exeledus

            it doesn’t need to be in the party

          • Green

            Yeah. I realized.

    • Xatu. Sigilyph. [email protected]

      ???

      • Green

        Thanks. I think I’ll use Xatu. (Man I can’t believe I didn’t think of that.

        • ShinyXatu

          I can’t believe it either…

  • Hayley Waalen

    Okay, Final decision, I’m choosing Litten for Sun and Popplio for Moon.

    Also, Lurantis looks cute.

    • ShinyXatu

      I’m doing Litten for Sun and Rowlet for Moon 🙂

    • Wes

      Hey, we’ve got the same starter choices! 🙂

    • I’m also choosing Popplio for Moon. Looks like I will only be buying one, like in ORAS.

  • TheNintendoChip

    Also, the total amount of revealed Pokemon is now 31! Including evolutions*, that’s bumped up to 41!
    *2 for each starter, Komala evolution, Rockruff evolution, 2 Pikipek evolutions.

    • Wes

      Don’t forget that 3 more island guardians are likely. And where did you get the Komala evolution from?

      • ShinyXatu

        It apparently has “parents”.

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      At least one possible Rockruff Evo. I hope they slow down to one or two pokemon reveals a months…

  • dananon90

    AIN’T NO STOPPING THIS HYPE TRAIN!

  • AlolanSandschrew

    Wait maybe this means we will get ‘new’ eevee evolutions after all:

    Jolteon becomes ground/rock
    Flareon becomes flying
    Vaporeon becomes dragon

    • Wes

      That doesn’t make sense though. What makes Jolteon, well, Jolteon, is the fact that it absorbed the power of lightning. If it’s ground or rock it’s not a Jolteon at all. It would make more sense to just make a new eeveelution.

      • Hiro

        SANDshrew.

        • Wes

          That’s different. It was a Sandshrew back when it was first brought to Alola and over time adapted to the ice. Eevee into Jolteon is an abrupt change brought on by a thunderstone.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Snowshrew

      • AlolanSandschrew

        well… it just a quick thought. And it’s about adopting to the envirement, so it can change u know, just like sandshrew just like vulpix.

        • EarthenWarrior

          Because Vulpix and Sandshrew fled to the snowy mountains because of volcanic eruptions and Exeggutor because of the intense tropical climate

      • Unfortunately, Alolan Sandshrew exists, even the Japanese name refers to sand… 🙁

    • EarthenWarrior

      This, this what I was afraid of and was right
      Stupid people saying stupider Alolan variants that have no reasons

      • AlolanSandschrew

        sorry, and u r? #byefelicia

        • EarthenWarrior

          I don’t go saying crap without backing it up with logic

          • AlolanSandschrew

            I thought this was a place of safety to say whatever you want wihout judgements. Too bad there are some people who r well… not so free of mind

          • EarthenWarrior

            Uhhhhh have you met me?

          • AlolanSandschrew

            no thank god.

          • Gikie

            The logic for the revealed variants was a climate adaptation.

            Flareon are found in the highlands of Alola where it’s windy. It is flying type.

            Basically what they did to Ninetales lol

      • Natsu

        Don’t call other people stupid for simply sharing ideas and opinions, that is very childish and a form of bullying period.

        • EarthenWarrior

          I apologize for nothing

  • Natsu

    I want Alolan Sylveon to be Dragon-type or Flying-type. 😛

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Hmm… I doubt eeveelutions will get Alolan forms…

      • Natsu

        According to the Alola descriptions we’ve been receiving, the climate and overall environment can change Pokemon forms and enable new typings so I wouldn’t be surprised.

        • RaichuKeaton

          yeah but if they gave new eevees they would basically just be new eeveelutions, so I’m like 99% sure eevee won’t get alolan variants, maybe just some evolutions but not variants

          • Natsu

            True. Just getting my hopes up considering the Alola climate + Eevee’s abnormal genetics/DNA… xD

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          I wouldn’t be surprised if they gave them a different look or something but if they changed their typing… I don’t know… It doesn’t make that much sense to me… We’ll see I guess.

          • RaichuKeaton

            ^this, if their looks were changed it would be fine, but typings would be confusing

    • Well it probably wouldn’t be called Sylveon anymore, for one…

      • Natsu

        Sylveon would still work for a Flying-type. I mean Vulpix and Sandshrew still kept their names.

        • Well Vulpix just implies it’s a fox, not that it’s fire-type… 🙂

          Though we’ll have to see, but I’d rather there be a new eeveelution with a unique name rather than an alola form.

          Drakeon?

          • Gikie

            Sandshrew still has sand but is Ice/Steel. Maybethe steel is a play on the composition of sand…nvm, carry on lol

  • Natsu

    My team thus far:
    – Rowlet/Popplio
    – Pikipek/different flying-type
    – Lurantis
    – Pseudo-legend

  • TheRece25

    So I am absolutely the Only one interested in the thought that we could be looking dead at ash’s Alolan team? I’m surprised he went for the big strong one and not the speedy looking one. And made his team weak and unevolved again

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      What are you saying would be his team?

      • TheRece25

        In the litten final evo pic

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Oh… I hope he doesn’t get all the starters again this time… I like it when each companion gets a starter :/ Dang…

  • TheRece25

    Also, I’m confused… I hope you can still use the non alolan forms on island

    • Wes

      It seems you can only obtain non-Alolan Pokemon through Bank.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      You probobly can, you might have to transfer them from an older game with poke bank though, which might be annoying.

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      Lol yeah you’ll be able to. They wouldnt have RBY or the other games transfer to S&M if you couldn’t.

  • SnappyK

    Noticed this in the jap trailer

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      Lol yeah it controls the tail to protect from behind.

    • It looks like… something else, but at least game freak can say “it’s at the back”!

      • RaichuKeaton

        looks like the plant dudes from super mario sunshine

        • Oh, those guys! I forgot what they were called too.

          I just remember Delfino Plaza thanks to Brawl.

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    Lol I still can’t get past this face though

    • TheRece25

      Y it became Dragon .. . I will never know

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Because some palm trees can grow in such weird patterns that they look like dragons.

      • Wes

        Look up a Dragon Palm.

    • another Pokemon with a face on its tail, speaking of Girafarig, we need a new giraffe Pokemon

      • TheRece25

        That pokemon would Totally fit in this gen. .

    • libra

      GameFreak had a drunk field day when they designed this. I absolutely love it!

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Yeah like twenty years ago lol

    • Daniel Rojas

      I’ve seen this somewhere before and it’s driving me crazy.

    • Roberto Matos

      terrible. looks like a deformed petilil stuck there

  • EarthenWarrior

    JESUS H CHRIST
    ALOLAN EXEGGUTOR ARE 35FT TALL

    • Wes

      All the better to see you with, my dear.

      • TheRece25

        😂 I don’t want this thing looking at me… Creepy

      • EarthenWarrior

        I will kill that Coconut

        • Gikie

          *Giga Drain* gg Rhyperior

          • EarthenWarrior

            That’s why I have Mamoswine
            And don’t forget I have Megahorn

          • Gikie

            True true, one little ice ball and poof

  • TheRece25

    So y is everyone regarding every other rumor as fact now except 2 final forms of each starter? Did the same person not say it??

  • Galemcaedus

    Rumours going around that Mallow might be Ash’s female companion lol

    • TheRece25

      I thought this too

    • Richard Haslam

      she is

    • Not Lillie? But I guess they have plans for Lillie like making her an evil team spy or government agent investing Zygarde..?

      • RaichuKeaton

        Lillie is so cute looking though, I had wished she would travel with ash (and maybe hau as well)

      • Galemcaedus

        Maybe Lillie and Mallow? He has 2 female companions in Kalos too so. I dont mind Brock returning, still my favorite Anime character aside from Ash.

    • yeah she’s the girl together with ash on the litten evo draft photo

    • Natsu

      Would love that. She seems very bright, adventurous, and all around just a great person to be with. She reminds me of a more up-beat Misty and along with her interest in nature (and cooking?) and battling, hopefully she equates to much more than just being a cheerleader.

      • libra

        A cooking girl. 😉

        • Natsu

          Finally… LOL

      • RaichuKeaton

        I wish they would have a female travel companion that would actually battle the gyms with as and wanted to be a champion just as much as ash, having them finally face off against each other in the league in the final, and then having her win because ash suxs

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      I wouldn’t mind that.

    • i have to start preparing myself for serena’s departure

      • Galemcaedus

        Good, I hate Serena, wish she’d just bore off. I want to strangle her.

        • TheRece25

          Lol… Y… What did she do wrong??

          • Galemcaedus

            She’s lame and she uses a Pancham, which is adorable and she isn’t worthy of it.

          • TheRece25

            😂😂😂 ok

          • Galemcaedus

            Plus I don’t like the concept of Amourshipping in a series like Pokémon, but thats just me.

          • TheRece25

            I get that

          • RaichuKeaton

            I mean, they are 10 years old so they may not even have hit puberty yet so they really wouldn’t have any attraction, just enjoy being in the company of others, they are children for goodness sake

          • Richard Haslam

            actually in the Japanese dub, they are 13, which in many parts of Japan if my memory serves me, is the age of consent!

          • RaichuKeaton

            never heard that, but cool I guess, still find it a little weird lol

          • Richard Haslam

            Well duh! It’s Kalos! France! The land of love and beauty! Of course that’s why the shipping.

        • aw really? i like serena! and this whole amourshipping is driving me nuts

          • Richard Haslam

            Well what do you expect! Kalos is France, it’s the land of love after all!

        • Richard Haslam

          like you would for Iris, Dawn and May before. Seriously, you just can’t take seeing those female trainers since Misty left.

          It’s become the norm theme for Pokemon now, either we like it or not.

          • Galemcaedus

            No I actually liked Dawn and May.

          • Richard Haslam

            me to, but that doesn’t stop those nostalgic fans here who are begging for the old series and formula to come back, which it did with eshop’s release of Pokemon Red, Blue and Yellow.

  • Bryan9554 sonic

    yes Gyms and yes Pokémon League

    • libra

      no gyms. no league.
      It’s being replaced by Island Trials and Kahuna battles.

  • libra

    Here’s a screenshot of the Lana’s trail and riding a Mudsdale on Route 2. rf.

  • Cosimo

    There needs to be gyms and a Pokemon league… It’s not Pokemon without them…

    • Natsu

      4 trial captains + 4 leaders = 8 leaders, there’s your gym leaders.

      • EarthenWarrior

        And 4 totem Pokemon

        • Natsu

          Super Bosses! Whoop whoop!

    • Wes

      Are you not tired of essentially playing the same game every few years? With this, it’s similar enough to a league, but it’s also a breath of fresh air.

    • libra

      So, GameFreak can’t innovate or try new things. k…

      • Cosimo

        I just like the gyms. It’s a staple of Pokemon… Change other things instead

        • Galemcaedus

          The formula had become dull and stale. Refreshment and innovation was needed to keep the franchise alive.

          • Cosimo

            There are other ways. Gyms are so fun and exciting. We’ll have to see how/if they stack up

          • Gikie

            I was actually never excited about gyms. They feel almost a different variation of the same thing (do some puzzle-ish thing and battle). I like the trial idea and wonder if it’s going to make it feel like LoZ and fight the boss at the end.

    • Galemcaedus

      You basically have to build your own league, like the leaks hinted at.

    • what if there is no villainous team as well

      • Cosimo

        That I’m okay with

    • Ithsme

      Embrace the future. Move on from what makes it a Pokemon game and enjoy the breath of fresh air they are providing.

    • Leo

      But gyms suck, it’s just an excuse to make you visit the region.

  • TheRece25

    Omg… It looks more like Trump than before you guys. Maybe they’re telling us something. 😵

  • Natsu

    With the sales surge of recent Pokemon titles, XY might just pass the 15 million marker and become the 1st Nintendo 3DS game to do so in history. 😀

  • zebstriker

    I literally can’t wait for these games to come out so I get to explore all of Alola because it looks so beautiful and big ^^

  • Bryan9554 sonic

    yes mega

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      What?

    • I’m guessing we can only pick a “Z-Move OR a Mega” once per fight.

      • libra

        That’s my assumption as well. I don’t think Megas could use Z-Moves as they cannot hold a Mega Stone and a Z-Crystal.

        • Gikie

          Did you bring up the limited turn-based mega?

          • libra

            Yes I did. It’s a hope, but I doubt it will be implement as of now.

          • Gikie

            True, just wanted to let you know that I like that idea very much. It feels more balanced

  • Bryan9554 sonic

    fake STARTER EVOLUTIONS

    • libra

      Uh. Mallow from the trailers is there cooking with Fire3 (Litten’s final evo). Also, the Chinese leaker, which is 95% right confirmed them.

  • Natsu

    Favorite travelling companions BASED on character, involvement, impact, and potential:
    1. May: had the best character arcs of any travelling girls and went from a shy, uncertain new trainer to a competant and competitive young lady who, by the end of the series was one of the mkst fully fleshed characters of the group
    2. Misty: personality, drive, and was simply badass with a great character arc and developed a true friendship with Ash and is now more successful than he is
    3. Dawn: a watered down version of May who somehow managed to carve out her own niche and sas the most Ash-like girl companion to date and I somehow see her as a battler more than a coordinator and her rivalry with Zoey and depression arc was lit AF and ACTUALLY talked with Ash’s other friends and communicated with them…
    4. Serena: pleasant albeit a little too much so and her character arc, although rushed showed her potential and her hair cutting scene was pure perfection
    5. Iris: bratty, no real character development (in the games she was superb), and all around a bland shtick version of the amazing character in the games that many people loved

  • Galemcaedus

    Lurantis nears perfection, but those cringeworthy clown pants makes it a 8/10 instead of a 10/10.

    • Natsu

      I actually like the pants… O///O

    • bacon pants 12/10

    • Leo

      But it’s Prada!

  • Wes if you’re still on, you may want an Ocean Vivillon?

  • Blaze

    Hey. I’m new to this, but I’ve been following discussions and articles on pokejungle since black and white were announced. What made me want to create an account was because of the reveal of Alolan forms. This reveal brought to my attention a rumor from 2008 prior to the announcement of generation V. Please check out the link if you’d like. I also attached pictures since they’re not available in the link.

    http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/generation-v-sneak-peek.159503790/

    • PercyEspeon

      Hai 😀 Welcome to the Jungle! :3
      Always exciting to get new faces 🙂
      And that indeed does look interesting

    • Electric Meganium? Neato!

    • Natsu

      Welcome!!!!!! <3

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Welcome! Thanks for deciding to join the discussion!

  • Galemcaedus

    Also hope the leaks of difficulty settings are true. X/Y were incredibly easy, which in turn made them rather boring.

    • libra

      When was this? I do seriously want the feature!

      • Galemcaedus

        Ehm I read it on 4chan, it was listed among the June leaks I think.

      • Galemcaedus

        You’d get a case of sunglasses from your mother, and each pair would represent a difficulty level.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Hmmm…. I think that rumor talked about gym leaders so that ones probobly fake.

      • Ithsme

        Yes! Give us the difficulty! We need gen 4 difficulty!

        • libra

          I remember almost losing to Cynthia. D/P/Pt had the right difficulty mix. Including the older games!

          • Ithsme

            Almost losing? I lose almost every time!

          • libra

            Garchomp slammed my Empoleon with Earthquake. My Ice Beams pulled through tho! 😉

    • That wasn’t in either of these leaks, it sadly is false and likely a fan dream. Though some of the stuff that is not the Chinese leak, sounds like a fan dream. Blue returning? And they also got Ninetales’s Alolan form type wrong. Fire/Fairy instead of Ice/Fairy. So I think most of that leak will be true and some of it will be false.

  • Sorry about earlier. I go through three stages of when we get an announcement:

    1. Shock
    2. Denial
    3. Acceptance.

    Currently in Denial. So much information that I can’t process and bring it to Acceptance yet.

    • Natsu

      The circle of life my friends, and it moves us all, through despair and hope, through faith and love, till we find our place. Hopefully you find your place. 😀

    • PercyEspeon

      Es fine, you just gotta move past the first impressions and realize first impressions sometimes change.
      Hopefully, after some time, you’ll process it and reach acceptance 🙂

    • libra

      Your good! You don’t have to like everything! Impressions always change overtime!

  • Bryan9554 sonic

    There was a leak that said it was fire/dark

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      One that was proven false unfortunately.

    • Richard Haslam

      as well as it’s name. Although he may have mistranslated Robinroot’s name of being Robingroot. Though these names are said to have been leaked as far back as 2015

  • Richard Haslam

    So what we have as female trainers.

    Original series (Gen 1 & 2): Misty (Water Type Gym Leader)
    Advance (Gen 3): May (Fire Type Starter) Torchic
    Diamond & Pearl (Gen 4): Dawn (Water Type Starter) Piplup
    Black & White (Gen 5): Iris (Dragon Type Gym Leader)
    X & Y (Gen 6): Serena (Fire Type Starter) Fennekin
    Sun & Moon (Gen 7): Mallow (Grass Type Captain) Rowlet

    Bout time we’d have a Grass Type Companion, don’t you agree?

    • Natsu

      If Mallow does join Ash this is the first time in a long time I’ll be pissed if the anime does not do her justice. She’s slowly becoming my bias.

      • Galemcaedus

        I’m more concerned with the fact that they might turn Ash into a novice trainer again, like they have been doing since the series’s introduction.

        • Natsu

          After placing 2nd/winning the league at Kalos?! O_O If they do, we’re rioting because last time Ash won anything, he just became more competitive; Frontier –> Epic Sinnoh Form.

          • Galemcaedus

            They did it when he won the Battle Frontier whilst beating legendaries like the Regis and Articuno. Did it when he got top 4 in the Sinnoh League and did it for Kalos as well.

        • Richard Haslam

          I’m afraid they will do so. A new series means new kiddies to join in with the new gaming experience. And if you know Pokemon as well as I do, the series tend to recycle the plot, as well as Ash’s destiny in order to make more money for the Pokemon Company.

          • Galemcaedus

            If he wins the Kalos league, would make zero sense if they reset Ash again though.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Hopefully it’s not the good games bad anime situation like black and white.

          • Natsu

            With the political strife of the new decade, I’m not too surprised companies are opting for happy, go-lucky entertainment. Sadly, they seem to be affecting everything.

    • i hope the Rowlet in Ash’s group will evolve. Greninja’s with Ash and has this big Ash-Greninja thing while Delphox was the lead Pokemon of Aria. How ’bout Chesnaught? :/

    • Shady

      Agree I think Ash will choose Litten though.

      • Richard Haslam

        and evolve into Panthster, and into yet another disobeying Charizard.

        • Galemcaedus

          Yeah and then Synchro’s with it to get Ash-Panthster and win the Alola League.

          • Richard Haslam

            or how the money-making company handles the anime, most definitely not. You saw how Ash’s Charizard through his disobedient cost Ash the Kanto League.

      • Galemcaedus

        NO HE WILL PICK ROWLET BECAUSE ITS THE CUTEST THING EVER

        • Richard Haslam

          oh! So we’re having THIS craze again are we?

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      I feel like Ash will pick Rowlet :/

      • Richard Haslam

        or maybe all three

    • Ithsme

      Ash never gets the birds. Lol

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        Ash gets a bird almost every generation, to look for team rocket and lost Pokemon mostly.

        • Ithsme

          I mean starter birds. Torchic and piplip

          • Richard Haslam

            and now Rowlet. But still, at least Ash now has a Cat Pokemon of his very own to rub in the face of Meowth, and Popplio too.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Ah, well anything can change.

  • Dicie

    So with this new Poke Ride feature, is it safe to assume that HMs are gone?

    • Natsu

      Thank Arceus: it was about time.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Certainly seems like it.

    • libra

      I and some others talked about this. I think so! Charizard can do Soaring and Fly, while Sharpedo and Lapras could do Surfing and potential Diving. I’m glad; its about damn time their gone. It’s tedious to use them!

    • rip generic surfing sprite (1996-2016)

      • Ithsme

        It may be gone, but not forgotten.

  • Natsu

    I hope somebody does a character analysis or paper on Ash soon because the series as a whole, when looked from a broad spectrum actually shows how well he is written.

  • Ithsme

    It’s that time once again Junglers! Time to update our teams! Reply with yours!
    Sun (primary game):
    – Rowlet
    – Salandit
    – Mimikyu
    – Sandslash
    Moon (secondary game):
    – Popplio
    – Exeggutor

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      No

      • Ithsme

        Yes

    • EarthenWarrior

      Ughhhhh
      Litten
      Rockruff
      Mudsdale

    • Natsu

      – Rowlet/Popplio
      – Pikipek
      – Lurantis
      – Pseudo-legend
      – Wild Card
      – Wild Card

    • libra

      I’ll make a team when I see the full dex. I’m going to start with Litten tho.

      • Ithsme

        This is by far not my final team, but it’s fun to build with what we’re given. Plus, I’m trying not to know the whole dex beforehand.

    • RaichuKeaton

      Popplio
      Mimmikyu
      Ninetails (ice)
      Oricorio (Sensu Style)
      Lurantis
      Comfey or Cutiefly

      (will probably change once the game comes out)

      • Tylotic

        We must have similar tastes, so far I am thinking:

        Poppmaid
        Lurantis
        Cutiefly
        Ninetails (Alola)

        I won’t be going Oricorio, but the Sensu is by far the best design.

        • RaichuKeaton

          I usually go for pokemon with beauty, grace, or just general cuteness

          • Tylotic

            Same. Though one regal/cool is also good for balance (Arcanine and Pyroar are the best examples). But I also think those two are cute as well. What was your first team in xy?

          • RaichuKeaton

            it was (not 100% sure)
            Froakie
            Spritzee
            Bulbasaur (i think)
            Flabebe (yellow)
            Heliolisk

            and then later on Trevenant

    • Cosimo

      Sun:
      Litten
      Rockruff
      Drampa
      Oricorio

      Sun (other game):
      Rowlett
      Komala
      Salandit
      Mudsdale

      Moon:
      Popplio
      Ninetales
      Bewear
      Oricorio

      • AlolanSandschrew

        You have a lot of free time in the future i guess? Haha

        • Cosimo

          Lol… Not really. I use to rotate each game after one beat the gym but now
          I have to figure out a new method of rotating…

          • AlolanSandschrew

            Haha, I thought having both games and two teams was a job already xD

  • zebstriker

    Only thing about these games I’m not into is Littens evolution

    • Natsu

      Throwback to when everyone hated Popplio and now Litten’s the one receiving all the hate. Oh how the tables have turned.

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        More like when all of them were getting a ton of hate and now only litten3.

        • Natsu

          An owl archer is pretty damn badass.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I’m just saying most people didn’t feel the same way, at least at first.

          • Natsu

            I understand. 😀

          • Ithsme

            I’m in life with the thing.

          • Ithsme

            I mean love.

      • zebstriker

        I personally liked Popplio and I like it’s evolution because it’s different and I hate Littens evolution because it’s yet another bipedal fire starter and it’s likely the 4th fire/fighting too

      • Ithsme

        They always do. “froakie is soooo ugly!”

      • Tylotic

        I loved all of them, but Popplio the most. The hate was just unbearable.

        I don’t actually dislike Panster — it’s more just alright in my eyes. I would rank it higher than Emboar and Typhlosion among the fire-starters.

    • #TeamRowlet since May 10

      • Ithsme

        Day one fan here as well.

      • zebstriker

        Right there with you but now I’m wondering if I’m going to get Popplio instead

      • Galemcaedus

        #TeamRowletSinceTheFirstTimeISawIt

      • Tylotic

        Team Popplio, but I do LOVE robbinhoot.

    • libra

      I’ll give everyone sometime. I remember when everyone and I hated Greninja! Now, everyone loves it and its ability. It’s popularity rivals Charizard. Things will change when they are official revealed and time passes.

      • zebstriker

        No they won’t because I still hate the kalos final evolutions

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      Fire types have been through a lot since Blaziken. I like the Fennekin like though.

    • Tylotic

      There will be more kitten/cat pokemon as a concession. The 2-stage cat that evolves depending upon the father’s typing.

  • Minior should evolve into an asteroid belt or something. too much potential for that cute rock!

    • Natsu

      Fuse it with Lunatone and Solrock and you’ve got a planetary system. 😀

      • Galemcaedus

        OMG MAKE IT HAPPEN GF!

      • they should have this group with pokemon based on comets and maybe even black holes~

    • RaichuKeaton

      I hope it evolves into something cool

    • Tylotic

      I love it too. I am expecting a colorful, glowing, and powerful pokemon.

  • Galemcaedus

    Totem Gumshoos is encountered next to a TM

    • Spetsnaz

      Good catch

    • libra

      I think you get the TM, you beat it.

    • Ithsme

      It’s guarding HM Cut!

      • Natsu

        The only thing I want to cut is the HM itself.

      • libra

        • Ithsme

          It’s a joke lol.

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    Gen 6 I don’t care for Greninja
    Gen 7 I don’t care for Litten

    Can’t decide between Popplio and Rowlet :/ and it’s important because that’s what you remember most when you reflect on the games in the future years.

    • Galemcaedus

      You’re simply not worthy enough for the mighty Greninja!

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        It’s overhyped like Charizard

        • TheHipsterRowlet

          And it’s kinda ugly IMO.

          • Tylotic

            I think he is cute. 🙂

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            I think it’s because of its tongue. It looks odd to me. Oh well, at least it’s not as bad as Emboar haha. Anyway, I’m excited to use Poppmaid too 🙂 I don’t think it deserves the hate it gets.

          • Tylotic

            It definitely does not! I mean, it’s a siren pokemon with a bladed waist – she’s beautiful and deadly.

            That’s funny, I actually think the tongue-scarf makes it cute. And agreed on EmBORE.

    • Tylotic

      Poppmaid is my favorite pokemon of all time now. Though, Robbinhoot is still top 5 final evolution; its design is seemless. I can understand the hard choice. Maybe it depends on the rest of your ream. I’m a huge Lurantis fan, so I will definitely be going Poppmaid and Lurantis.

  • Green

    Trump is gonna sue GF for resemblance to him.

    • Natsu

      Let him sue. Pokemon has enough money to buy his whole family of jokes.

    • Spetsnaz

      I mean its a funny joke, but I highly doubt he actually would.

      • Green

        He won’t notice until Sun and Moon comes to GO. He probably plays GO.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          He actually has said he doesn’t have time for such things.

          • Natsu

            But he has time to belittle and create nonsensical drama. OKAYYY *sips tea* *rolls eyes* moving on to more relevant topics…

    • it would be a total shocker if the Yungoos prey resembles Clinton for some reason (idek how it would look like but that would be cool)

      • RaichuKeaton

        that could be its prey, too bad that it would strike back and take yungoos the heck out lol

    • Ithsme

      You gotta wonder if it’s intentional or not.

      • Green

        I feel like it’s intentional. But we’ll know if it was when we see its move set. It’ll have Trump card.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          I wonder if ken Sugimori even knows who Trump is.

          • Green

            Please. Even mongooses know who Trump is

          • Leo

            Anyone who reads the news knows who that idiot is, but actually making a Pokemon based on him? Hmmm, it’s a kid’s game + it was probably designed ages ago

  • Richard Haslam

    pretty much sums up Game Freak to those who have leaked the final evolutions.

    • libra

      You posted this a lot.

      • Richard Haslam

        I thought many have not seen it.

    • Natsu

      GameFreak tryna make last minute modifications to prove the leaks wrong. “SEE?! Instead of Panthstar having its tail pixel to the left, we moved it to the inner-right-corner-left.”

  • Shady

    I am wondering wat Alakazam would look like when he become Fighting type ……I mean he could hold something rather than spoons like Nunchaku or any krate weapons with some muscles.

    • simkenno

      Make MACHAMP Psychic I say then.

      In fact change every gen1 type to a polar opposite …

      Dragon Caterpie
      Fire Seel
      Etc

      This is sarcasm 😛

      • Ithsme

        Rock Gengar and Ghost Golem!

        • PercyEspeon

          Even better, ghost Clefable, fairy Gengar

          • RaichuKeaton

            take my money

          • simkenno

            Gimme DAT. Nice nod to the shadow tale 🙂

        • simkenno

          Ground Electric Gyarados :O yuck haha

      • Shady

        I want to know wat kind of animal Alakazam’s line based on ??

        • simkenno

          I think I remember somewhere said it was based off a fox.

          But mainly humanoid based off magicians.

          So it’s a FoxHuman 😛

  • Tylotic

    For upset litten fans, you can always go for the 2-stage cat pokemon contained with the confirmed leak. (Assuming they did not leak some red herrings) It evolves based on the typing of the parent. Voila, you have yourself a Fire-type cat. (Though, not confirmed if bipedal :p)

  • PercyEspeon

    Okay, okay, so this might be a text wall…
    So, official site, Lurantis is the Totem Pokemon of Lush Forest, in Akala Island.
    English trailer, Mallow is in the Lush Forest, saying it’s ‘the trial grounds for me’ so obviously at the end of Mallow’s trail in Lush Forest, Lurantis will be the boss Pokemon and Mallow is the Trial Captain of Akala Island. Obvious is obvious.
    I can pinpoint though which island she’s at, though, because of the Japanese trailer.
    In the Japanese trailer, she’s first at location 1, then near a farm in location 2. Both of those (specifically location 2, location 1 is a guess for me) are in the island to the right of Melemele. Both are circled with a number next to them. So I’d guess Lush Forest is below the farm or above it, although I can’t say for certain.
    There’s a chance I could be wrong, but most likely this is Akala Island.

    • PercyEspeon

      rf if you can’t see it

    • Natsu

      Thanks Percy! This makes much more sense now; Pokemon is actually playing out more like an RPG now! 😀

    • i just searched what Akala may mean and here’s what I found: “a shrub or climber (Rubus macraei) of Hawaii with very large RED or PURPLISH raspberrylike edible fruit”

      • PercyEspeon

        People also said it meant pink, and there’s a pink mark in the charm you get (there’s a picture somewhere, someone posted it earlier)

        • Spetsnaz

          Fits with bird keeper tobys theory

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Cool!

    • TheNintendoChip

      Ok, but here’s the problem. Kiawe is also clearly on that island, because of the volcano. Lana, from the looks of it, also seems to be on the same island. Here’s why: The Lapras scene is located in an area with multiple waterfalls. The only place this seems to fit is on the 2nd island, near the top-left with all the waterfalls.
      It doesn’t make sense to have 3 trial captains on one island. Sophocles is clearly on the 3rd, because he’ll probably be in the observatory. My guess is that Kiawe & Lana are on the 2nd island, with Mallow & Sophocles on the 3rd. Then, there must be additional trial captains, because there would be none for the 1st and 4th islands.

      • PercyEspeon

        THe thing is, though, there’s no farm or pen in the 3rd island. I looked, I don’t see any there. The only thing with both of those scenes’ locations is in the 2nd island.
        Yes, it is troublesome.
        Or maybe Kiawe is in the first island, there is a volcano there (Sure it’s not fiery, but whatever)
        Plus for Lana, in her scene, there’s a wooden bridge that leads to a island with a sign, I can’t see that anywhere so it could be on the last island for all we know.
        I definitely think this is Akala Island. I may have a chance it’s wrong, but I put my bet on it.

        • TheNintendoChip

          I know there’s no farm. I believe that Mallow will appear on the 2nd island, but her trial will be on the 3rd.
          Can you show me this scene with the wooden bridge? I looked in both trailers and both sites and can’t seem to find it.
          Who knows, really? I guess we’ll have to wait until CoroCoro, which will probably reveal another island’s name!

          • PercyEspeon

            It’s in the Japanese trailer, when she shows up. It’s not so much a bridge, more so a wooden plank. 1:17 until it moves on to Sophocles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaav6J6XzFs
            And yeah, hopefully, I just have a gut feeling that’s where she’ll be. I dunno why she’d appear early only for her trial to be later on a different island, unless the others do so too.

          • TheNintendoChip

            That could be this:

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Isn’t that where the water type captain is though?

          • TheNintendoChip

            That’s what I’m saying 😛

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Oh ok

          • PercyEspeon

            I guess, but it looks like it reaches to the other side in the clip, that it is connected, like a bridge.
            It’s not the best clip. We’ll just have to wait until we get info

  • Spetsnaz

    The fire dude has a marowak..hinting at another alola form?

    • Tylotic

      Almost certainly the case imo.

  • Richard Haslam
  • Moonlight Marble

    Personally I’m glad these are real. I really didn’t like any of the unova and Kalos evolutions apart from serperior. We’ve had lots of masculine starter Pokemon so I don’t see why a feminine one is such a shock, I love popplio 3. Also really like rowletts final, favourite grass final so far.

  • Galemcaedus

    Poké Rides are the HM replacements, calling it now.

    • Natsu

      With that Sharpedo smashing that hard rock like nothing, I’m hoping we travel to a not so distant region that everyones been dying for it to be incorporated and tie some loose ends of its rushed story… like…*cough*Kalos*cough*

      EDIT: as in surf there by breaking pbjects we would normally otherwise be unable to break

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        Isn’t it cute smashing rocks?

        • Natsu

          Yes. Hard rocks. You always need an adjective. 😛

          • simkenno

            He loves a good hard rock 😉

          • Galemcaedus

            For a minute I thought the R in rock was a C

          • simkenno

            That’s the point ahah :p

          • Galemcaedus

            Thats basically what happens to me when I look at Hala

          • i read that wrong omg

          • simkenno

            Haha that’s the point :p

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            *facepalm* you people

          • Natsu

            Not my fault I’m thirsty.

          • simkenno

            :O 😉

        • Shady

          Soooo cute.

  • Shady

    Is that mean fire type Marowak confirmed??? http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470061692097.png

    • Galemcaedus

      Basically

    • Spetsnaz

      Fire/ground would be cool

      • EarthenWarrior

        Ground/Fire

        • simkenno

          Water fairy ! 😉

          • EarthenWarrior

            No

          • simkenno

            Ah hun I’m only joking with you :*

          • EarthenWarrior

            Well I don’t like it

          • simkenno

            Soz hunni !

          • EarthenWarrior

            The damage is already done

          • simkenno

            Bby you need me. We are 2 of a kind.

            Your the Ashley to my Mary Kate 😉

          • EarthenWarrior

            Gross and you’re just as bad as Chico

          • simkenno

            Chico and me are also like this.

            He is the Kenan to my Kel

            The wind beneath my barley 😉

    • i imagined Alolan Marowak to have a more tribal-ish skull head

      • EarthenWarrior

        With horns and face paint that is made from a special tar it finds
        It wips up a spark from its bone and ignites its club and helmet

        • Galemcaedus

          Love you x

          • EarthenWarrior

            I am best designer

        • exactly!

      • Shady

        I imagine him by this way actually.

    • Wicked Omega

      Seeing as they also mention traditional dances, I’m guessing It’s a fire dancer inspired variation of Marowak :S

  • Galemcaedus

    Kingdom Key Exeggutor edition

  • Richard Haslam

    Captain Mallow is an expert with Grass-type Pokémon. She loves cooking, but it seems that sometimes her taste is a bit particular…

    That’s Mallow’s description from the website by the way

    • Natsu

      … Particular taste? She likes Pokemon meat?!

      • Pokemania88

        Or she’s vegan and eats her own Pokemon’s flowers

  • Pokemania88

    This is so much info help I love it but don’t at the same time… I don’t know how to digest this. I mean, I find the no gym leaders thing a little puzzling but we’ll see

  • Natsu

    11 more days until our next information overload!!!!

    • Pokemania88

      WAIT WHAT

      • Pokemania88

        I DID NOT KNOW OF THIS

        • Shady

          Corocoro

        • Galemcaedus

          Serebii confirmed new info coming in 11 days

          • Pokemania88

            FROM THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Yeah, I’m glad it’s not a long wait!

    • btw, when’s corocoro? i heard its earlier this month?

      • Natsu

        Officially comes out the 15th of each month, but leaks a few days earlier. The news we will be receiving on the 12th might cover what’s to be in CoroCoro for both Japanese and international fans.

    • EarthenWarrior

      …of two Pokemon

  • Trusk

    I sure hope Serena appears in the Gen 7 anime

    • thank god im not the only one but this is too farfetched to happen

    • Galemcaedus

      No

    • simkenno

      Same if Misty truly never does return Serena is next in line.

    • EarthenWarrior

      I just want to see what they do with Iris, because the rule is there’s always the previous traveling companion minisode or something

      • simkenno

        Iris can go die in a hole. Was never a fan of her and her bullshit

        • EarthenWarrior

          At least she wasn’t some girly girl, she had spunk and didn’t take crap from nobody

  • EarthenWarrior

    Why do I always get the wackados on showdown http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/monotype-409194495

    • Galemcaedus

      Dat shiny Breloom though <3

      • EarthenWarrior

        It died like a bitch
        Honestly more and more keep running when I win didn’t matter, would’ve won no matter what that Lucario could do

    • simkenno

      Everything was weak to ground bar heracross. That guy was an idiot. And he had an awful team.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Well to be fair Cobalion and Terrakion are evil since of Close Combat Spam since usually scarfed
        But all that mattered is I shut them up

    • Gikie

      Dat Aerial Ace! Didn’t see that one coming! Nice coverage

  • RaichuKeaton

    I would actually love to see Farfetched get a Alolan variant! It is so often overlooked and a variant with another typing could really give it the boost it needs

    • Natsu

      Farfetch is not overloooked imo. He’s like a star in his own right along with Dunsparce. I think of it like this; he’s like a B-list star tryna become A-list like Demi Lovato. Has some hits, but mostly misses.

      • RaichuKeaton

        I. love. demi.

        But yeah tbh I hope dunsparce gets one too, that would be sick

        • Natsu

          Me too. But we failed her Confident era as fans. Cool for the Summer and Confident should have smashed the charts, but they only did moderately. Her management team needs to be fired. I want HWGA with some Unbroken Demi back! Although Body Say is a bop.

      • Moonlight Marble

        She has near 40 million Twitter followers…

        • Natsu

          Selena has over 80 million Instagram followers, her album has yet to sell over 800k. Numbers aren’t everything.

          • Natsu

            But I am a numbers/data guy so… I’m kind if contradicting myself here. Oh well O///O

          • RaichuKeaton

            My ex loves selena, they have the same bday, but nowadays I think she’s a bit off. Cant totally dislike her though, as my he always had good taste

          • Natsu

            Selena is doing much better than Demi sales wise as her management and marketing team know what they’re doing; all of her singles off Revival have 100+ million streams, produced 3 top 10 songs, all are certified Gold – 2x Platinum, and her album is certified Gold. Additionally, she’s on a sold-out tour.

            Demi’s album is certified Gold, Confident peaked at #21 and is now certified Platinum, Cool for the Summer peaked at #11 and is now certified Platinum, and Stone Cold did not chart at all and is almost certified Gold. She has 2 songs with 100+ million streams, and is on a semi-soldout tour. The interest is there, the backup is not. Her management team needs to do better promotions and marketing.

          • Ultron

            Guys, guys…I think we can all agree Kelly Clarkson is the greatest pop star of all time

  • I am looking forward to facing Hala. Hala is my spirit animal. Lol. He finally has made me accept that after all these Island Trials you go to the Grand Trial. Perhaps the Grand Trial will sorta be a regular Gym puzzle then you face Hala and the other Kakunas (image present, refresh if can’t see).

    • Galemcaedus

      Hala I want to do things to. Naughty things.

      • simkenno

        Sure listen your on the wrong site for that 😉

  • Trusk

    Those who want to se Serena join Ash on his Gen 7 adventure keep your fingers crossed.

  • C_Mythic

    I will always hate the Litten final evo I hope that the leak saying there may be a different evo is true and it is actually good instead of trash. Either way while I am ok with most of this stuff I will say that it doesn’t feel like a real Pokemon game. I hope when they do gen 8 if they do gen 8 that it is a return to the norm.

    • Richard Haslam

      the company are already beginning work on Gen 8, even as we speak.

      The company always produce a 3 year long plan to create the next gen, even when the newest gen is about to be launched

      • C_Mythic

        That isn’t confirmed and isn’t something we know or can count on. Nothing is set in stone. The only reason I am worried about the future of the series is because Nintendo’s future is uncertain. And Pokemon only does main games on handhelds and there is still nothing saying the NX is officially a handheld and the only statement we have from them is saying it is a home console so yah… No way they make another on 3DS especially since it will be old and outdated by then. And even if the NX isn’t a handheld Nintendo and everybody else will have moved on so yah.

        • Richard Haslam

          well have you seen how Pokemon Go is doing? Even if Nintendo dies out, they can still survive on mobile devices on the go.

          As for what I have said about Gen 8, how can you say they are not at work, if they haven’t put in the tiki statue item as a easter egg in X and Y, or why the creators went to France for not just for inspiration for the first Pokemon Black and White movie. Or why a few next gen pokemon in the anime, like Gen 2 in Gen 1, Gen 3 in Gen 2, and Gen 4 in Gen 3 have made themselves known to us.

          • C_Mythic

            I don’t think a main Pokemon game could really do well on mobile… but who knows… maybe something could work out. I probably wouldn’t play it though.

            All I meant was it isn’t confirmed that they are and therefore we can’t say with certainty that they are indeed working on gen 8 yet even if it is very likely they have at least started thinking about it. Nothing is set in stone.

          • Richard Haslam

            well for a business making company, you have to know and understand of how it works. They don’t create Pokemon just by snapping your fingers, these things take time. A LONG time.

          • C_Mythic

            Sure. I never disputed that. I am just saying we as outsiders can’t say for 100% sure.

          • Richard Haslam

            well it’s just like downloading at the moment. Right now, like our understanding, Gen 6 in the main office might be 5-10% done.

          • C_Mythic

            Hmm? I am not sure I understand what you mean. Also do you mean gen 8 not 6. 6 way X/Y/OR/AS and Sun/Moon is gen 7.

          • Richard Haslam

            nope

            what I meant is like our knowing/ Game Freak’s work on Gen 8, is so far 5-10% done.

            Just think of this process like updating your computer. It takes a longtime, and that may include the remake of Black and White.

          • C_Mythic

            …I still don’t really understand haha.

  • anyway its time to go. gahd i hate time zones. cant keep up with the comments. today was a blast :))))) night night~

    • simkenno

      Night hunzo !

  • Tylotic

    I am a bit confused as to how dance ability works. Can you switch into a dance, and then get to immediately use that move in that same turn? Basically you can move twice if stats and timing are right?

    • Natsu

      Yes. It says any Pokemon on the field… double battles about to get hectic with all these new abilities and Pokemon!

      • Tylotic

        Thanks. Seem like it would be crazy with two of those birds out there on the switch. I wonder if people will use dance moves less? (Some sets it’s sort of a saving grace.)

        • Natsu

          No problem! 😀

      • EarthenWarrior

        Ughhhhhhhh spamming Quiver Dance……or Swords Dance…….
        Ughhhhhhhhhh all the stupid Fiery Dances

        • Ultron

          Fiery dance ftw! >:)

  • Trusk

    I wish to see her in a pink or red sundress and with new Pokemon on her team.

  • charzking

    it’s been a while since I’ve been this excited for a pokemon game >< !!

  • Bryan9554 sonic

    pokemon tiger litten evolution

  • AlolanSandschrew

    Can i ask why the Machoke has a red circle around it on the pic above?

  • tortle3k

    Alolan Ninetails is beautiful
    And Exeggutor is hilarious. Freaking Dragon type.

    • tortle3k

      Team so far:
      Rowlet
      Bewear
      Vikavolt
      Mimikyu
      Alola Ninetails

      • charzking

        (rotating) Team so far:
        Litten
        grubbin – vikavolt
        Fomantis – Lurantis
        Pikipek
        drampa/ rockruff
        water growlithe/ Wimpod

      • PercyEspeon

        I know there was a huge post down there, but I missed it so here’s my potential teams! (mostly just maybes since not sure who I want where plus other future Pokemon etc.)
        Sun –
        Rowlet
        Rockruff
        Wimpod

        Moon –
        Litten
        Grubbin
        Fomantis

        Some maybes (either due to waiting for other Pokemon and/or evos and/or other reasons) –
        Pikipek
        Nekkoala
        Cutiefly
        Drampa
        Yungoos
        Salandit
        Komala
        Mimikyu
        Mudbray
        Alolan Vulpix

  • Shady

    She is an expert with Grass-type Pokémon but she is hot …is that due to sitting down close to Panthster ( Litten final evo). http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1470064514404.png

    • EarthenWarrior

      i just don’t believe that name
      Panther and Gangster just not what this Pokemon is

      • Richard Haslam

        it’s Fire and Dark, plus it’s inspired by ‘Tiger Mask’

      • Shady

        U said that more than 100 time ……Panthster actually is (Panther+ miss spelling of Prankster)……u know how real tiger is strong and trick so that fit the concept perfectly.

        • Richard Haslam

          like Robinroot is a miss spelling for Robin Hood

  • AquaticSynchronization

    <<Galemcaedus, new name. Idk why, it just popped up my head.

  • AquaticSynchronization

    Got a new name, idk why it just popped up my head.

  • Richard Haslam

    because this is Pokemon’s 20th Anniversary, it is also Diamond and Pearl’s 10th Anniversary, meaning that Game Freak could be doing a remake of Diamond and Pearl, seeing that they’re going to throw hints of Sinnoh into Alola like Cynthia and Rotom. But I’m just hoping that they’re going to release it onto the Nintendo NX, rather than on the 3DS considering that you can play DS Pokemon games like Diamond and Pearl on it.Let’s just hope and prey that they don’t do another Twilight Princess HD, because although it is for the Wii U, you can actually get and play the Wii version on it.

    • AquaticSynchronization

      No, Pokemon games shouldn’t be on console, end of

      • Ithsme

        NX may be a hybrid.

  • tortle3k

    As much as I dislike Litten’s and Popplio’s final evolutions, I love Rowlet’s.

    And the idea of forming the league was jarring at first, but now I’m hoping this is the case. Especially if we return to Kalos and collect the badges there.

    Sun and Moon are the most innovative games in the series yet. I hope Gen VIII follows in it’s footsteps.

    • Richard Haslam

      with the company already discussing and are hard at work thinking about it, the possibility is there.

  • libra

    Coincidence… I think not. Refresh.

  • Rion

    About the Pokemon League, Kahunas and Trial Masters are different right? If so I can see them being the “leaders” or Alola since their should be 4 Trials and 4 Kahunas.

    But I’m loving all this new stuff! The Totem Pokemon seem really cool and look like Boss battles with the calling of allies. I hope more Pokemon get Alola forms. This is so exciting!!

  • Martin

    My question is where is this other inof coming from? About all the other Alolan forms, furfou styles, and the snowman line?

  • Karl Heinz
    • Richard Haslam

      and a snowman Munchlax to boot!

    • AlolanSandschrew

      they cant make every gen 1 pokemon ice 😉

      • André Luis

        No, but they can make every gen 1 pokemon part fairy and dragon 😀

        • Snowshrew already ruined that dream :,(

          • Pharap

            In more ways than one. Snowslash is actually the perfect anti-fairy and anti-dragon. Ice to crush dragon, steel to crush fairy.

  • AceTrainer

    Maybe we’ll get crystal Onix?

  • Bryan9554 sonic

    Alolan Onix

  • POOR FLOPpilo fans. Now they’re stuck with a feminine looking pokemon that has a 87.5% male ratio I knew that thing was going to be a fail

    • Karl Heinz

      i will reset until i have a female popplio lol, did the same with delphox back then

      • Leo

        That’s what I’ll do.

    • Ithsme

      Careful there. There was a ton of heat a few days ago about this, watch what you say.

    • PercyEspeon

      All I gotta say is, it’s not too big of a deal to SR for a female or just ignore it and move on with a male one.

    • TheNintendoChip

      I don’t see why this is a problem, considering we can get female Mr. Mimes, male Gardevoirs, Lopunnies, and Gothitelles.

      • Up till now the starter pokemon have been gender neutral. cute enough to appeal to the female base. While cool enough to appeal to the male base. they even stated that. this is going to turn a lot of people off

        • PercyEspeon

          I mean, I don’t necessarily think this way, but a lot of people thought Delphox was really feminine and that having a male Delphox was weird.
          Sure, it’s designed more gender neutral, but it still looks more feminine/more gendered than the other two starters.

        • RaichuKeaton

          so much wrong in just one comment… as a female yourself (as i assume from your avi) I expected more from you, but sadly it looks like you need to grow up a lot

          • Kneesus

            there’s nothing too wrong with what she wrote. some people don’t like feminine looking pokemon, some don’t like masculine looking pokemon. some like neutral, everyone has a taste. I prefer masculine looking pokes, no biggy, if i get the water, it has to be female like my gardevoir, simple.

          • RaichuKeaton

            look I’m not getting into this with you, but yeah there is something wrong with her comment. But if you cant see that, I really don’t care, now bye

          • Kneesus

            cool, you wanted to get offended by her comment and you did, congrats

          • RaichuKeaton

            oh. my. god.

          • Leo

            Why do people make an issue out of this? Females are naturally more feminine looking and males masculine (talking about their looks). Female machokes are weird, male lopunnies are weird. Putting this gender issue apart it just doesn’t fit! Political correctness has a limit. Either the pokemon should look more neutral or if they look more like a female/male then they should be 100% female/male (like chansey).

    • Ultron

      This is not intended to be aggressive, I just like numbering
      1) They’re massively overhauling features within the games this gen. I think reseting the gender ratio is likely.
      2) They each may have male/female forms as a leak has suggested
      3) Not really a big deal. It maybe be feminine but it’s not a bad design.

    • Dicie

      I personally don’t mind, since I love the Fairy type. I see absolutely no problem with that,.

    • Kneesus

      get a female and call it a day

    • Tylotic

      Gender and Sexual Attributes are very different. You’re conflating the two.

  • Ultron

    Looks like Alolan Exeggutor is the Mega Slowbro of this gen..

    • Ithsme

      It’s hilarious but I love it. XD

      • Ultron

        It’s a bit much for me haha. This will go in the ridiculous design pile along with mega manectric and slowbro lol

  • Pokemania88

    THIS IS THE CRAZIEST STUFF EVER

    I still cannot believe this (sorry I was gone for awhile this morning)

  • I know this is old news probably but Mallow and Kaiwe appear on the same Island, indicating there may be more than one Trial Captain for one Island. :O

    Kudos to PLDH.net for pointing this out!

    *HYPE INTENSIFIES*

    • PercyEspeon

      I knew that island to the right of Melemele was most likely Akala 😀

      • I love how in the Japanese trailer, they show you much more. Miltank appears in the farm area on that Island along with Tauros. And I know this off subject, but this whole Starter debate thing I try not to put my nose into. I personally think Rowlet’s and Popplio’s, minus Litten’s which had so much potential. I’m picking Popplio personally and I don’t care how many manly points I lose. But if we get this weird “middle evolution branch” as indicated by the sheets, then maybe that will make some more people happy. I don’t have much stock in the second leak as I do in the Chinese leak at the moment, the latter Chinese leak of which has been 100% confirmed.

    • Pokemania88

      WAIT SERIOUSLY HYYYYYYYYYPE

      • Yeah. The Japanese trailer showed her and the shirtless guy on the same island. I was pretty pumped when I saw that! It’s possible there could be more than just 4 Trial Captains.

    • libra

      You might actually be right. The volcano, farm, and forest are on one island. rf.

  • AceTrainer

    Could this make AZ’s Floette, an Alolan Floette

    • Spetsnaz

      Possibly, but unlikely, as the flower is also seen in hoenn

  • Ithsme

    Updating the Alola Dex, brb with that.

  • Ultron

    I’m praying to Arceus that these Starters have gender differences. I can’t handle the Litten evo. I will complain about it for the rest of my life and you guys will have to suffer through it

    • If Kween litten evolves into that low T cell count roid head I will NOT be happy. Looks like i’m going with FOULet or just poketransfer a snivy over kii

      • Ultron

        Aw c’mon, Rowlet isn’t so bad. Owls are pretty cool

        • I guess. But I really wanted a badass BIPEDIAL tiger pokemon.

          • Ultron

            Do you mean quadruped

          • EarthenWarrior

            What about Triped

          • Ultron

            Well that would be disturbing

          • NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN yes. oh well. Anyways which pokemon are you feeling
            1) LITteen
            2)PikiGOD
            3) zikavolt
            and I Kinda like the praying mantis pokemon but the mantis it’s based on is a bug that evolved to resemble a orchard. so I don’t understand why it’s not bug

          • Ultron

            If these evolutions are the only choices, I’ll be going with Rowlet and having Vikavolt for sure. I also really like that Mantis and am bothered by its grass typing. Makes little sense.

          • PercyEspeon

            I still think it’s a plant imitating the bug, it’s a really cool backwards concept that I feel is GF’s style.

          • libra

            I said that as well. The plant is mimicing the mantis to avoid and scare predators.

          • PercyEspeon

            Exactly, especially cause it looks more plant than bug to me. Plus, Fomantis’ info states all that matters is photosynthesis. Sure, if it was Bug/Grass, it could still work, but there’s very little bugs that can photosynthesize.

          • Ultron

            That’s just such a strange concept to me though. I wouldn’t mind if it was a creature they created but since they’re flipping what an actual insect does, I don’t like the idea as much. At least the design is good.

    • Oh hey Ultron, fancy seeing you somewhere that’s not Hypable! haha. I agree though. I just don’t like that Litten evolution. And the Popplio evolution is kind of feminine, which I can see a lot of people not being into. I’m fine with that, I just hate the clown aspect.

      • Ultron

        Oh hey! I frequent here a lot! The Litten one is my least favorite for sure. The design seems uninspired and too similar to past fire starters in terms of concept. The Popplio one isn’t bad, it’s just kind of strange to me. The Rowlet one is pretty great though. I might have to get a female one and name it Rowling or Jo 🙂

        • I’m definitely hoping these are fake. The Litten one is an atrocity. And it’s probably fire/fighting, which is way over done. I do like the Rowlet one, so I wish it would be real. I just really wanted a good Popplio evolution because when I saw the starters, Popplio stood out to me the most. But if this one is real, I’m going with Rowlet. That’s a cute idea for a nickname.

          • Ultron

            They’re pretty much confirmed given the new female character in the art :/ I’m holding out for gender differences.

    • Dicie

      I’m sure that there is another set of evolutions that has to do with the starters’ secret. There’s a rumor that there may be Grass/Ground, Fire, and Water/Fighting final evolutions alongside the leaked ones. Perhaps this will utilize the day/night cycle in a way.

      • libra

        Legit. That’s an interesting way to think of it. Maybe, all of these evos occur at night; while the Grass/Ground, Fire, and Water/Fighting occur during the day.

        • Dicie

          That would be amazing. We’ve never had split evolution starters before, so it would be a first!

      • Ultron

        I think this would be cool. These games are really switching things up. Hopefully for the best, although I don’t really care for the Z moves.

  • libra

    I believe I’ve might have figured out how Poke Ride will ultimately work. Your trainer will recieve a device, which will allow you to summon rideable Pokemon. This device essentially acts as a PC; it stores and holds rideable Pokemon. These Pokemon are then transferred to the Ride Ball (not the official name), then your able to use them on the overworld. These rideable Pokemon will also be used in trials as Stoutland assists you in finding the ingredients for Mallow and Lapras helps you find the raging Pokemon for Lana. I hope my description is rather accurate. As we said numerous times, this might completely replace HMs.

    • Wicked Omega

      I think it’s more of a loaner situation. Like the ball doesn’t function like a normal Poke Ball in that there is no ownership of the Pokemon. You Probably meet the “Trainer” of these rideable Pokemon and he loans them to you for your journey. Think Battle Factory Pokemon style, just a temporary arrangement :S

    • Daniel Rojas

      Agreed and the same thought I had as soon as I saw that weird white Pokeball and Green Device. No more HMs!

    • Ultron

      I do hope that eventually in the game we’ll be able to ride our own though. It’d make it more special to me 🙂

    • Pharap

      But I like HMs.
      I don’t like them being unforgettable and taking up move slots, but I like the abilities.

      Maybe if they tweaked HMs so they’re more like Z-moves. The pokemon doesn’t “know” the move, it can use the moves if it’s compatible and in proximity to a special stone (possibly embedded in gym badges). So as long as you have at least one water type, surf, dive, waterfall and whirlpool are go at all times.

      • Aperost

        But Magikarp.

        • Pharap

          ‘water type’ is a generalisation. Obviously that’s discounting Magikarp and including Lugia, Azurill etc.
          The point is you can still use HMs if you have compatible pokemon without the pokemon having to actually know them, hence you don’t need to designate HM slaves, but you would need compatible pokemon in your party. In a way that would make it tie up with the anime better as well since it would explain how people are able to just ride their water pokemon without the pokemon needing to know surf.

  • #popplioisoverparty

    • Dicie

      Bashing it won’t do you or anybody any good. It is what it is.

    • libra

      Have we really gotten to this level? If you don’t like the Pokemon, just don’t use it.

    • Tev-Da-Trainer

      Poppilo is the best starter tho

    • Ithsme

      I happen to like Popplio, so I respectfully decline your invitation to this party.

    • Ultron

      Omg this is perfect.

  • SesquipedalianPokedex

    I found a funny picture:

  • EarthenWarrior

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ANY POKEMON CAN USE Z MOVES AS LONG AS IT KNOWS THE TYPE OF MOVE

    • Dicie

      That’s amazing! I’m personally in love with this 5th move concept. But I won’t enjoy it as much if the game doesn’t have a steep level curve. Otherwise it will make sweeping trainers even easier :/

      • EarthenWarrior

        It’s not a fifth move, it’s once per battle and only if you have that type
        It would just be a stronger version

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Well that can be helpful for Pokemon who can’t mega evolve. I don’t think that’s a bad thing :p

      • Dicie

        If anything, trainers may be prompted to choose Z-Moves or Mega Evolution. Both would be a little overkill.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Yeah.

        • libra

          A Mega Evolution could be rekted by a Z-Move. Also, Mega Pokemon cannot use Z-Moves and I’m quite sure you have to pick either using a Z-Move or Mega Evolving your Pokemon. This would balance the concepts.

          • Dicie

            Assuming both concepts are in the game, I wonder how it will be handled from an aesthetic standpoint. Will the bracelet serve both purposes or will we need to use an alternative to a Mega Ring (pendant, for example) to achieve Mega Evolution?

          • libra

            Actually, there is a circular hole on the bottom of the Z-Ring. I’m assuming the Key Stone will reside there. Someone pointed this out a while back.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Maybe you can choose to equip a key stone instead of a Z Chrystal or whatever.

    • libra

      You didn’t know that? It says it on the official site. This will mix up competitive play and the uses of Z-Moves.

      • EarthenWarrior

        That means people will just sacrifice a move slot just to take advantage of a Z-Move

        • Poketard101

          Actually I think that, that may be what the possible “fifth” move slot is for. 🙂

          • SnappyK

            Z move is fifth move confirmed in the video…

          • EarthenWarrior

            Once just freaking once

          • Poketard101

            yeah I know that. That’s what I just said. 🙂

          • EarthenWarrior

            There is no stupid fifth move
            Only if you got the Z-Crystal and you have a move of the same type, it’s just a dang supercharged version
            Only once per battle

          • libra

            The “fifth slot” will likely tell you what Z-Move you could use.

          • EarthenWarrior

            There is no fifth slot, that’s where the held item would be

          • Poketard101

            Yes, I saw that myself, thank you very much! I have watched the commercials about 10 times now.
            But obviously it IS a fifth move slot, its just one that you have access to AFTER you get the silly crystal thing.
            And I don’t believe that it would go over another move, it is a move in itself.

  • Ithsme

    I hope the plot doesn’t revolve around Z moves. Just wanted to get that out there.

    • Dicie

      I agree. I really hope it ties into Zygarde and Kalos somehow. It’s been far too long since we’ve had a good postgame!

    • libra

      I doubt it. Hala gives it to either after defeating him or after the festival battle with Hau. I don’t think this game is going to go lore crazy like X/Y.

      • Dicie

        X/Y had so much potential with lore. I’d hate to see it go to waste if we don’t explore the region in S/M.

  • Dicie

    Hey, let’s be happy that those Z Stones don’t achieve some sort of ridiculous fusion as many were worried about.

  • Dominic

    I would have preferred if they weren’t just giving new forms to Gen 1 pokemon. Gen 1 gets so much love and exposure as it is and there is a lot of potential outside of it to explore.

    • Ithsme

      Exactly. We are celebrating 20 years of Pokemon as a whole, not red and blue’s 20th birthday.

    • Poketard101

      Well I quite love this idea, and had the same idea several years ago already. 😀 (And apparently I am not the only one with the same idea.)

    • libra

      We could only hope. It is the 20th Anniversary. Based on the rumours, I think it’s just Generation 1, but a boy can dream! I do love the concept of Alolan Pokemon. I kinda wish they did this with Mega Evos instead of creating Mega Evolution. I like it that much.

      • Ithsme

        Adaptation is a way better concept. Mega evolution, while I think it’s cool, feels forced, while Pokemon adaptation feels natural.

        • libra

          Image having a Dragon/Fire Kalosian Charmander. The concept is natural and outstandingly interesting.

      • Dominic

        well fingers crossed the old megas might return as forms in this game. Its seeming less and less likely with every reveal that megas will be returning

  • Bryan9554 sonic

    birthday novemaber.17.2016
    pokemon sun and moon novemaber.18.2016

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Lol my birthday is November 20th.

    • Daniel Rojas

      So, your parents won’t be buying it for you? That’s sad..

  • Ithsme

    Ladies and gentlemen, here is your updated Alola dex based on trailer Pokemon:
    —————————-
    Alola Dex
    ————–
    New Pokemon
    ——————-
    Rowlet
    Litten
    Popplio
    Rockruff
    Komala
    Pikipek
    Yungoos
    Gumshoos
    Grubbin
    Charjabug
    Vikavolt
    Drampa
    Bruxish
    Cutiefly
    Togedemaru
    Salandit
    Bewear
    Mimikyu
    Wimpod
    Bounsweet
    Comfey
    Mudbray
    Mudsdale
    Fomantis
    Lurantis
    Minior
    Tapu Koko
    Solgaleo
    Lunaala
    Magearna
    ————-
    Old Pokemon
    —————-
    Bagon
    Shelgon
    Salamence
    Gastly
    Haunter
    Gengar
    Beldum
    Metang
    Metagross
    Gible
    Gabite
    Garchomp
    Pichu
    Pikachu
    Raichu
    Caterpie
    Metapod
    Butterfree
    Ledyba
    Ledian
    Eevee
    Vaporeon
    Jolteon
    Flareon
    Umbreon
    Espeon
    Glaceon
    Leafeon
    Sylveon
    Pancham
    Pangoro
    Sandile
    Krokorok
    Krookodile
    Spearow
    Fearow
    Growlithe
    Arcanine
    Zubat
    Golbat
    Crobat
    Skarmory
    Lillipup
    Herdier
    Stoutland
    Poliwag
    Poliwhirl
    Poliwrath
    Politoed
    Miltank
    Tauros
    Lapras
    Carvahna
    Sharpedo
    Kangaskhan
    Slowpoke
    Slowbro
    Slowking
    Vulpix
    Ninetales
    Exeggcute
    Exeggutor
    Sandshrew
    Sandslash
    Dratini
    Dragonair
    Dragonite
    Delibird
    Surskit
    Masquerain
    Nosepass
    Probopass
    Cubone
    Marowak
    Phantump
    Trevenant
    Riolu
    Lucario
    Mankey
    Primape
    Psyduck
    Golduck
    Roggenrolla
    Boldore
    Gigalith
    Archen
    Archeops
    Bonsly
    Sudowudo
    Rufflet
    Braviary
    Goomy
    Sligoo
    Goodra

    • Ithsme

      Grand total of 125!

    • Moonlight Marble

      Couldn’t Zubat be absent for one generation?….

      • EarthenWarrior

        No, an eternity in any cave

      • Ithsme

        You’ll never escape the Zubats . . . Well, unless you buy repelsz

      • AquaticSynchronization

        I need my regional Crobat, sorry.

    • towelgirl21

      Okay, so we’ve got 30 new ones, but some of them are going to evolve (Rockruff and the starters and probably Wimpod too).

  • EarthenWarrior

    Ughhhhh I fear these Z-Moves are already going to be a pain in the butt
    Like anything knowing any type of move could easily abuse the Z-Crystal
    Like if a Ice Type has Rain Dance while holding a Water Z-Crystal it will be allowed to utilize Hydro Vortex

    They should’ve just stuck with Type Super Move
    And if they let Hidden Power bypass the whole thing….ughhhhhh

    • libra

      At least you don’t have to worry about held items. It’s something new. It will be capitalized upon in competitive play! You could take out an annoying attacker or wall with a Z-Move.

      • Ithsme

        If the Z means nothing it’ll bother me to no end . . .

        • libra

          Let’s be real here. It probably means nothing accept looking cool!

      • EarthenWarrior

        Or subjugate me to a series of Bloom Dooms
        Ughhhh and the freaking Legends can use them too

  • AquaticSynchronization

    Alola forme Pikachu looks so good

  • Brandon MacDougall

    I had so much hope for Littens evolution, but they ruined it, it looks like a villain from those old half animal/half human cartoon characters…….everything else looks amazing though.

  • Dicie

    As far as worries go, the Japanese trailer showcases the player character, Hau, and Lillie confronted by Hala. What could this mean for our rivals/companions this generation? Hopefully we won’t be having rivals along the lines of X/Y.

    • libra

      They will likely travel to the same islands as you and you’ll see them from time to time. I hope each of them have a story arc!

  • TheRece25

    You guys do understand that the Starters and Rockruff or whatever still have their secret right? It can’t just be gender different final evos because if so.. that wouldn’t be special for Rocruff, a seemingly normal pokemon. And, Every pokemon can use Z moves..
    Ash greninja is showing up so I believe sync is still intact

    • libra

      Chinese rumour said that there is no Synchro Evolution and the bracelet has already be explained. I’m guessing their secret is evolutionary differences based on day and night.

      • TheRece25

        The same person?

        • libra

          Yes. It’s in the article. Ash-Greninja is likely an event Pokemon; similar to AZ’s Floette.

          • TheRece25

            Oh ok, but I don’t think it’s night n day evo either.. that’s already been done

          • RaichuKeaton

            or the notched ear pichu

    • Daniel Rojas

      F*ck ash Greninja & synchro evolution. Not gonna happen.

  • I just hope there’s an Evil Team. Already bad enough Gym Leaders are removed. Has it been confirmed Trial Captains are not able to be battled? I heard from a source you can’t battle them. But nothing in the official material says that. In fact, in one bio, it even lists a Pokemon they have.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      It has not been confirmed.

    • Moonlight Marble

      Why would they specialise in a type if you can’t battle them :/ I think I read that the trials are not limited to battles, so maybe there are battles but other stuff too

    • libra

      It’s not be confirmed. All we know is that there are different trials, Totem Pokemon at the end, then you fight the known Kahuna.

  • Daniel Rojas

    My question is (for competitive battles), can you bring both forms of old Pokemon? or will they still count as same species?

    • EarthenWarrior

      Ughhhhhhhhh I really hope they’re still classified as the same

      • Chaos

        Still waiting on the Pink Rhyhorn to become a reality.

        • EarthenWarrior

          That’s only because of pinkan berries

    • Dominic

      Its gonna be just like how Wormadam is handled – which i don’t know for certain because Wormadam is never used competitively, but Im pretty certain theyre classified as different Pokemon (or at least you can bring multiple different forms to a match)

      • Daniel Rojas

        No, Wormadan is the same species. Good example, mate.

    • libra

      Yes! You cannot obtain the original forms in S/M, but you can transfer them from X/Y/OR/AS or VC games. They are the same species, hence why it’s the Alolan Form. I don’t think they reclassed the Pokemon as they kept their names.

      • EarthenWarrior

        At least I won’t see two sets of Ninetales on the same team

        • RaichuKeaton

          why not? I plan on using them both at some point in a double battle, same with both sandslashes

          • EarthenWarrior

            That’s just bull, you better have some fire counter
            I will singe both of them

          • RaichuKeaton

            …. why would I need a fire counter on both of them? one of them is a freaking fire type…

          • Daniel Rojas

            And has (potentially) Flash Fire….

      • Chaos

        This makes the least sense to me. These Pokemon are supposed have ‘evolved’ into these new ‘species’ because of the environment/climate they moved to. Why on earth would they only work for Pokemon you transfer over….makes no sense at all

        • libra

          I think you misread by comment. Alolan Pokemon are from Alola. You can only get their original forms from X/Y/OR/AS/B/W/W2/B2 and the VC Games with Pokemon Bank.

          • Chaos

            Oh. Sorry my bad, I’ve just been hearing from other sources that that is how they will work and thought you were saying the same thing. It just didn’t make much sense to me.

        • Gikie

          Remember, evolving doesn’t necessarily mean being a new species. There are other factors to rake in as well. Although, I change from fire to ice is extremely physiologically drastic. One could argue as it being a subspecies as the possibility of a poison type Ninetales is possible in some other unknown region due to its population’s own adaptation. The root species would be Fire type.

          Conclusion: most likely the same species, but analogous physiology and anatomy to the root species.

          • Chaos

            Hmmm…from what I know of biology. A single species separated geographically will eventually (over millions of years) ‘evolve’ into two separate species, each adapted to its own environment. The original species technically becomes extinct. Of course this is a very simple explanation, I’m not a biologist by any means, so my understanding may be incomplete.

          • Gikie

            No, you’re also correct, but we haven’t had millions of years to answer this question. I love that you brought that up, actually. I’ve studied and research bacteria, fungus, viruses, and parasites my whole school life and totally skipped macro-evolution.

            The original doesn’t necessarily become extinct, but it can. You know, I think I’m going to discredit my answer because, as a scientist, I know when I’m wrong. I will say that IceTales is most likely a new species, due to environmental adaptation, that may have been introduced to Alola from Kanto.

          • TheNintendoChip

            This is somewhat true, due to Geographic Isolation, which is a form of Reproductive Isolation. For organisms to be of the same species, they must be able to reproduce and produce fertile offspring, and share a gene pool. Over time, geographically isolated members of one original population may encounter gene pool variations*, thus causing the original species to diverge into two separate ones.

            *Changes in the allele frequency. The environment doesn’t cause members of a species to forcibly change — it provides beneficial circumstances for members with certain traits. Over time, these traits are more likely to be inherited as those without them die out [This is natural selection]. Because two different environments favor different adaptations, the allele frequencies in both populations change, but different traits are favored. This kind of variation, which produces two different species, is called Disruptive Selection.

            Keep in mind that this is all kind of hazy to me, and that Evolution was my weakest subject in Biology 😛

          • Chaos

            Yeh, Biology was never my best subject, more of Chemist myself. But doesn’t stop me from being really intrigued by this.
            Like how they explained intense sunlight causing Exegutor to develop like that. It’s interesting, and I hope to see it with more Pokemon.

        • RaichuKeaton

          you just cant catch them naturally in alola because they are not available, but if you say transfer over a fire vulpix you can breed it in game to get another fire vulpix, its not going to come out an ice one

          • Chaos

            Yeh my bad, I read the comment wrong,

    • Jensen Chen

      they’re like the rotom forms, even though each of them are different typing for each appliance only one form is allowed.

    • RaichuKeaton

      ok think of it this way as some people seem utterly confused by the forms (which i don’t get but still) its like shellos only they span games and not just location in on region, so you have ice ninetales in alola and fire everywhere else, they are the same pokemon but different because of where they live, so its not going to change a normal vulpix to an ice one, they are like shellos

      • Daniel Rojas

        Well, that’s not exactly true.. If you read the Pokemon Page for Sandslash, it states that it is slower than the ground version, so they will have different status, not only visual.. as well as different typing and abilities. Basically, different Pokemon.

        • RaichuKeaton

          ok that doesn’t really make my statement false though… think meowstic, they have different stats per form, and also think the Nidoqueen/king, they are kinda in the same boat as the variants, technically the same pokemon but different, thats what I’m trying to get at here, they are separate but also the same

          • Daniel Rojas

            Nidoking and Queen are different species.
            Anyway, if you said Wormadam..

          • RaichuKeaton

            yes, but technically they are the same as well, just like shellos, the only difference is that shellos share a pokedex entry while the nidos come too early for that, but the ice/fire vulpixs will be separate species in a way as well, but each stemming from the original and I imagine they will share a pokedex entry but it they are still different pokemon, but also the same, do you understand what I’m saying?

          • Daniel Rojas

            Gonna have to wait and see.. my money is on “no”.

    • Chaos

      Biologically they should be different species.

  • Dannsbago

    Any word on if there’s more Pokémon you can surf on with Poké Ride, other than Lapras and Sharpedo? Like Empoleon perhaps?

    I want to Ride on an Empoleon ;-;

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Nope. Hopefully there will be more though.

    • Chinese Rumor is 100% confirmed. The leaker of that leak said you can ride on “almost any Pokemon”.

      • libra

        This wouldn’t surprise me as all Pokémon are scaled to size. Still, I think it’s restricted by certain Pokemon.

        • Yeah. Now that I think about you’re right. Knowing Game Freak, they would not have the time to program 600+ Pokemon with unique animations in just a few years of development. Seems unlikely.

      • EarthenWarrior

        I don’t believe it’s 100%

        • I thought it was. Maybe I’m mistaken…

          • EarthenWarrior

            Saying everything is 100% confirmed is dangerous
            Anyone will go looking for leaks and believe that they’re real

            Some could be real and the assholes just will try to piggyback on a thread and sound real

            Soon everything meshes together like slimey crusty gears and then nobody knows what’s what

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Yeah no leaks are ever 100% confirmed.

          • libra

            He got Ninetails type wrong. He said Fire/Fairy, when it was Ice/Fairy. I always see rumours as a small guideline for official info.

          • That’s another leaker, isn’t it? Or is it the same one?

          • libra

            It’s the same Chinese leaker!

          • Oh, okay. Gosh, this is all so confusing. Lol. So, this image here below (refresh if can’t see) is someone recaping Chinese leaker guy:

          • libra

            Yup! It’s up on the article as well.

          • Ah, thank you for the clarification!

          • But how come some of the points stated in that picture I showed you aren’t in the article?

      • Dannsbago

        Do you know where I can read that statement? Not doubting you or anything, just want to give it a read myself lol

        • I know what you mean. No offense taken. And it’s in an older article somewhere on the site that stated the Chinese rumor when it came out. This article is just a recap. I wish I could link you. I’m sorry.

    • Lol

  • Richard Haslam

    Robinroot = Robin Hood
    Panthster = Prankster
    Entermaid = Entrance

    The names do sum up their very personalities for the final evolutions.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Those names are from a fake leak though.

      • AquaticSynchronization

        Mallow is in the leaks, so its not sure at all that they’re fake.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Yes, not all leaks are the same leak. The names came from a leak that was proven wrong.

      • Richard Haslam

        Even so, the description for Copybara does seem to fit this leak. Along with the Dolphin Pokemon described by the Chinese leak.

        http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/sun-moon-fakes2.jpg

        And these were from a reliable source who gave us leaks from CoroCoro. Not to mention they’ve also given us the leak for Rowlet’s mid evolution.

        http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/sun-moon-fakes3.jpg

        • RaichuKeaton

          that bird thing has been circulating the internet for generations now, its been throughly confirmed as fake

          • Richard Haslam

            http://shironakarius.deviantart.com/art/Rowlet-s-Mid-Evolution-623043860

            found the mid evolution full body leaked around the net and compared it with it’s final evolution.

          • RaichuKeaton

            I don’t think you understood what I said, that “middle rowlet” evolution is 100% confirmed fake, we saw pictures of it with other fake pokemon leaks and such several times back in xy as a different pokemon and I think it even was around a bit for B/W, so its not part of the rowlet family

          • Richard Haslam

            I suppose your right.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Every leak says there will be a dolphin Pokemon, because people want it, that proves nothing.
          That “rowlet mid evolution” is a fakemon from before the starters were shown…

    • Chaos

      What the hell are these names?

      Rowlet final evo –> Arrowl

      • Richard Haslam

        Owlinhoot, Owlinroot, Arrowlroot, Arrowhoot. Whatever name, we’ll find out soon enough.

      • Tylotic

        I like Robbinhoot.
        But I could see something like Fowliage too.

        • Richard Haslam

          still it’s better than those lazy names for the finals and mid evolutions made by one who is known for that fake Pokemon Embear.

    • EarthenWarrior

      I don’t believe in Panthster
      In the original thread it said Panther and Gangster it’s a freaking Tiger Wrestler

  • Jake

    I hope Alakazam doesn’t have a variation. Seems like it getting the Mega evolution along with something new is overkill.

    • Tylotic

      Megas are out the window likely.

      • Jake

        Oh yes, I agree. I meant Alakazam was given a mega previously and if it gets something new just seems unfair to the rest of the pokemon. Everything on the list besides Alakazam (plus the ones revealed today) don’t go mega which I think is their way of compensating them. Guess we’ll see.

        • Tylotic

          I can agree on that. He already had a chance to shine, when there are so many that still haven’t from gen 1 and otherwise.

  • libra

    still waiting on that water/ghost or water type dolphin pokemon…

    • EarthenWarrior

      Or my EFFING GROUND/FIGHTING

      • Pokemania88

        That gorilla is becoming reality bro. ITS BECOMING REALITYYYY

        • EarthenWarrior

          IS IT?! OR IS IT ANOTHER LIE

          • Pokemania88

            OOOOH

    • Shady

      Y water /ghost ?

  • AleX werton

    😉

  • Martin

    What is the source for this information? I know the starters are that Chinese rumor. But what about all this other information???? Really lost in terms of the source.

  • Pokemania88

    WAIT ASH GRENINJA IS COMING TO OUR GAMES WUT

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      I’m not believing that untill I see it personally.

    • libra

      Likely as a customized form of Greninja. It will be similar to AZ’s Floette and Spiky-Ear Pichu.

      • Ithsme

        We never got AZ’s floette. I kinda forgot that that was programmed into the games.

        • I get why it was there (the final cutscene) but I think it’s weird that it was programmed with better stats and stuff when we never got it.

  • Bryan9554 sonic

    pokemon sun buying

  • EarthenWarrior

    I wish they didn’t make these stupid Variants
    They could’ve done a regular Artic Fox and another Spiny Ice rodent

  • I JUST GOT HOME FROM SCHOOL AND ALL OF THIS IS CONFIRMED WHAT!!

    Oh man, I’m so hyped. My team is now

    Popplio
    PikiPek
    Mimikyu
    Ninetales
    Lurantis

    This gen is shaping up to be absolutely amazing

    • Also is was a bit farfetch’d on Yungoos but Gumshoos is just straight up Donald Trump

      • I get the whole Donald Trump thing, but it looks more like an old timey Dick Gumshoe to me.

    • My team so far will be:

      Popplio
      Pipipek
      Mudsdale
      Chinese Leaked Snowman

    • Oh my god so much to talk about. The alolan forms are awesome. But executor is just stupid. Ninetales might be my favorite pokemon though. I liked it already but Ice/Fairy? My two favorite types? Get out of here that’s awesome!

      • Ithsme

        Exeggutor may have used growth too many times. . .

        • Now i’m imagining an exeggutor similar to annoying dog

    • Ithsme

      Sun:
      Rowlet
      Salandit
      Mimikyu
      Sandslash
      Moon
      Popplio
      Exeggutor

    • OH

      AND DANCING BIRDS

  • Green

    Looks like the Eggs are finally on my side 😉

    (Refresh)

  • EarthenWarrior

    The Jwitz is speechless

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Can you link?

      • EarthenWarrior

        Can’t

    • PercyEspeon

      I don’t blame him, nearly every Poketuber I saw reacting to the trailer was speechless in a way.
      Heck, I was speechless, my brain just couldn’t comprehend all that info, especially on the size of today’s

      • AquaticSynchronization

        The uploader’s username makes me want to smash in my screen

        • …Jwittz?

          • AquaticSynchronization

            Yes

          • Why? Wittz is supposed to be short for Wittenkeller, his last name and the J is for Josh

          • AquaticSynchronization

            I just hate the abbreviation, sorry.

          • Oh, fair enough

  • Ithsme

    I guess this confirms Rowlet’s name origin being Arrow + Owlet.

  • Chaos

    Imagine

    Alola Bulbasaur – Bulbasaur in the Alola region settled near an active volcanic. Frequent eruptions, caused the Bulbasaur to adapt to the extensive heat by shedding its leaves and developing an internal furnace embedded within its body.

    Alolan Charmader – Charmander settled close the beaches of Alola. Unable to travel to the other islands due its fiery nature, the Charmander began learning to swim, those who could survive as their tail fires were out, adapted to the oceans of the Alola region becoming excellent swimmers.

    Alolan Squirtle – Squirtle settled in the marshes of the Alola region. However due th intense heat from the sun, much of the wetlands dried to leave massive jungles. The squirtle adapted to this new environment by developing the ability to harness the Suns energy, growing large leaves on their shells, and vines around their arms and legs.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      The kanto starters already have megas…. I wouldn’t mind if they actually did this though 😉

    • EarthenWarrior

      Just make it stop

      • Hey Earthen! You like Minior at all?

        • EarthenWarrior

          At first I was excited because I thought it would just be like the meteorite Fakemon I came up with Astrorbit but honestly doesn’t do it for me, I can easily see how many freaking weaknesses this thing will be ruined by
          Unless this thing has beyond stellar defenses and speed to back up its attacks it will be easily put down by any of the weaknesses

    • Gikie

      Yep!

      • Chaos

        YES!!! Exactly like that.

    • Moonlight Marble

      We’ve already seen a regular charizard flying around :/ I like the idea but why not Johto starters, Kanto had their time in the light last year

  • AquaticSynchronization

    So, Ash-Greninja Fire shuriken/Destructo Disc is most likely the Anime’s introduction to Z-moves.

    • EarthenWarrior

      ……I really don’t think that will be the case
      Maybe using the spinning momentum of the Giga Shuriken breaker to absorb the oncoming flamethrower or blast burn

      • AquaticSynchronization

        Thats what I’m hoping too, it would make AG a far more authentic transformation that way.

  • Richard Haslam

    The final evolution for Rowlet’s name could be Robin Hood based, with either hints of arrow, owl, or plant.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Archowl
      Bowinowl
      Quivoot
      Slingeroot

      • AquaticSynchronization

        Ugh you come up with names so easy.

      • Richard Haslam

        Rowlinroot

        • Wicked Omega

          Robinhoot 😛

          • Richard Haslam

            Robinhoot it is.

  • Ooooohhh my god…. Sun and Moon are just…. oh man, I love these games. The idea of pokemon adapting to their environment and gaining a different type. The awesome pokemon designs, the change in the pokemon formula.

    I’m so excite

    • EarthenWarrior

      I honestly think my appendix is dying ever since I watch this horror show

      • What exactly do you not like?

        • EarthenWarrior

          The variants
          The birds
          The ugly team captains
          And the new Pokemon just aren’t doing it for me
          Mudbray was the only minor victory but still the name is very uninspired and those goat eyes

          But now because of this my dreams of using Popplio is dead since I cannot stand it turning into a freaking mermaid

          • RaichuKeaton

            so you like exactly nothing about these games so far… good to know, it probably won’t change either. too bad. . . . . .

          • EarthenWarrior

            I didn’t like ORAS it gave everyone everything they wanted while I got zilch

          • RaichuKeaton

            do you even know what you want?

          • EarthenWarrior

            I want a Ground/Fighting type
            Some kind of Hulking Plant Ogre (Grogre) or my Tiki
            Water/Fighting Chinese Acrobatic Popplio
            Honestly just like big beefy Pokemon it just the only thing I like

          • Well I mean, if you limit yourself to liking only a specific kind of pokemon, you’re bound to be disappointed. I’m not telling you what to like, but try to use some different things maybe?

          • EarthenWarrior

            It just doesn’t feel right

          • Well like, you use Slurpuff right? Maybe use some pokemon similar to that? Maybe Azumarill?

          • EarthenWarrior

            If I POSSIBLY USED AZUMARILL I WOULD BE A COMPLETE FUCKING HIPPOCRIT
            Slurpuff isn’t even something I use a lot, just that one little thing I came up with
            Then people will just egg me on about Fairies
            Just can’t they just make some stuff I freaking like, honestly I’m just freaking reduced to Rockruff and Mudsdale at this point

          • How would you be a hippocrit? Changing your opinion on something is hypocritical

          • EarthenWarrior

            The thing that causes me more problems each day, the thing I curse its name and its blood nearly every day and the final twist in the four foot machete lodged in nearly every one of my sides is to freaking break down and use them

          • So… what you dont like Azumarill? Because it is strong against ground? That is why you should branch out!

          • Azumarill is my favorite Pokemon of all time. Hmm hmm hmm heh heh heh… HAAHAHAHAHAHA.

            It’s funny that my second favorite type is Fighting and the third is Ground.

            Earthen is attempt to evicting me off Ground as my third fave on the basis that I like Swampert (which he hates) and Landrous (because legends) and Gliscor (because “one-trick staller”), and that I like Krookodile for “all the wrong reasons”… XD

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            If you want bizarre not Pokemon like designs you could always look into yokai watch.

          • RaichuKeaton

            ok well you got kittens evo then, and mudsdale, the sun legend, and gumshooes and I’m sure much more, you cant really get mad about not having big beefy hulking pokemon yet as if they are in the game they are going to be evolutions and as such haven’t been revealed yet

          • EarthenWarrior

            I don’t use legends and Gumshoos is ugly

          • Chaos

            Because you want stuff that isn’t child friendly

          • Can you explain those a but more?

            The variants are neat because it gives an excuse to use a pokemon you might not have used before. it also gives more type variation in Alola.

            The birds are… kinda weird but I like them. Little dancing birdies 😀

            The team captains all look fine to me except that electric type guy.

            Also, don’t you like Litten? He’s all big and buff. That seems kinda your style

          • EarthenWarrior

            I like Heatigre but I don’t like the idea of choosing littlen
            I just wanted a switch it up but not like this

          • Well I mean I change starters pretty often during hype season so its ok to change your mind. Maybe just try to enjoy it if you can

      • Chaos

        You don’t need your appendix anyway

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      It’s about freaking time they did a little real world evolution. It doesn’t really make sense for Pokemon to always be the same no matter where they are. This makes them more diverse and interesting. lol

  • Ah.. the starters are real..