imageA Chinese rumor about Pokémon Sun & Moon has seemingly gained credibility after predicting a Poison/Fire-type Pokémon which was fulfilled with the reveal of Salandit. You can read it below, translated by Cresselia~~ of Smogon Forums.

  • There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokémon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island
  • The final starter evolutions will be an Archer, a Wrestler and a Siren
  • The diamond stones will be collectible throughout the region and act similarly to Mega Stones but not exactly
  • New Pokémon based on a dolphin, sea cucumber, snowman, mushroom and a rugby monkey are there
  • Rockruff’s evolution is a Werewolf
  • Mashadow, another copyrighted Pokémon name, has a very unique type combo

In addition, it seems that the majority of the images of the “leaked” starters (seen above) have mysteriously disappeared from Google image search. There is no way of knowing but it is possible official takedown notices have been sent to have them removed from search results. This is a warning: I may soon remove the images myself.

<3 PJ

  • thinkingemojiface

    “There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokémon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island”

    Weren’t Gyms confirmed already, like in a Treehouse stream or a press release? They definitely have said you have to journey the region to become the Champion

    I also thought the Russian leaker (Bruxish and them) said these were fake? But then again it was just people on /vp/ relaying info after it happened, which spread the leak

  • Why?

    Why would you remove the images yourself ?

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      If they are in fact real Pokejungle could get in trouble for having images of something that wasn’t supposed to be out yet.

    • Because reasons. :/ There is really no need.

    • Michael A. Lozoya

      They would have to send him a Cease and Desist order to remove the image, and if so, in doing so they’d be confirming AT LEAST that these really will be the final evolutions of the Starters.

      • Not necessarily, but it would be curious.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    Oh snap you actually made an article!!! hahaha I find it quite interesting that Google removed the images of the starer evolutions. this whole thing has me kind of hyped! It’s such a different kind of game and I think that’s what Pokemon needs right now. I guess only time will tell if these are real. I imagine the Pokemon they describe will be shown off sooner rather than later if real as they don’t sound like Pokemon they’d keep hidden until the games release.

  • Your goal is to create the league…? This makes even less sense. And there being multiple crystals is also silly as I said. And seriously? If these starters are actually real I am not gonna be happy. :/ And really no reason to take them down either people have seen them already. The damage is done.

  • EarthenWarrior
  • Zoruart

    So this chinese rumor gained credibility by just the reveal of one pokemon that they predicted the type combination for? Tons of other people have predicted similar type combinations, and even people here on Pokejungle have predicted Salandit’s ability. The three final starter evolutions were out since quite a while, and this site could have just easily seen those and could have written them up. Since Rockruff’s reveal was quite recent, the news that it’s evolution would be a werewolf would be quite recent as well. And besides, most people already knows that Rockruff would be getting an evolution – especially with the “moon” thing written on its description on the Sun & Moon Website. I’m not saying this leak isn’t reliable, I’m just saying the way in which it gained credibility as well as the information it has been giving us could be thought up by anyone.

    • The Aqua Flygon

      It’s technically not a leak cause I don’ believe most of it but the Popplio is starting to grow me not much though I hope it’s not fairy more Water/ Psychic
      Litten Fire/Dark
      Rowlet Grass/Flying

      • It is definitely fairy if this rumour is real (and also if this rumour is fake, just saying disarming voice man). Just like Litten is fighting. 🙁

      • Zoruart

        I think the only way we could “demolish” the potential final evolutions of these starters would be if the second stage evos were revealed.

        I only really like Rowlets final evo from the potential finals tbh though.

        • The Aqua Flygon

          I like it now I see it’s not pissed off like I thought before looks like goggles on face

  • The Aqua Flygon

    This is the only thing I see wrong now
    Oh and to repost New Gem Spoiler on Steven Universe https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8UhcsUHlhOY

    • EarthenWarrior

      You kidding I love that idea
      Yes the fiery crotch blasts are unsettling but the concept won me over
      The more victories Heatigre has achieved the bigger and hotter the belt of flames is

      • NintendoPlayer

        They don’t come from the crotch though, the angle just makes it look like it. They come from the gem in the belt and shoot out fire spin.

        And those Steven Universes look Hype.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      So excited!

      • The Aqua Flygon

        Whuut?

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        I for one welcome our new Tetris overlords.

        • No, I love Bismuth, I’m talking about the Litten evolution

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Ah, I disagree with you on that front as well, the only supposed starter evolution I don’t like is rowlet’s

          • Rowlet’s is the coolest of these… odd designs.

          • If these are real I’m goona have to negotiate with my brother for that Popplio

          • Popplio is pretty and I’d refuse to use a male Popplio.

          • The Aqua Flygon

            Oh that yeah that’s bad

    • Anon

      Woah woah how long has it been since i saw steven universe? The last one i saw was steven floats! Where did this gem come from?!

      • The Aqua Flygon

        An episode when Steven was inside Lions mane there is a gem like this inside its bubbled

  • SesquipedalianPokedex

    Huh, the only thing that sounds really improbable is the creation of a Pokemon league, although guess it is hardly refuted by anything we’ve seen so far, I hope we will se something soon (perhaps in corocoro) that can confirm or deny this. Poison/Fire has always been a type combo that I’ve wanted to see, so it’s not that unlikely that this person could of come up with it on their own.

  • raphi

    Does corocoro leak today?

    • Zoruart

      I think in 5-7 days 🙂

      • It could leak during the weekend.

        • EarthenWarrior

          EARTHEN NEED IT NOW

          • I’d like to know if I should be disappointed or hyped myself.

      • Raphael

        i hoped they do us a favour and leak at the 9th .. but we still have time 😉

    • PercyEspeon

      I think it’s still a bit early. Usually they start to leak during the 9-14 (15 is when it is officially out)
      Then again, it is the 9th over there, but still, usually they leak a bit closer to the 15th

      • Raphael

        yeah they rearly leak at 9th .. bit it could be .. normaly at the 11th or 12th i think ^^

  • Yveltal 101

    I know they said that these games are going to be different but this could be fake or real we have to remember is a rumor (about the chinese guy thing).What I thought could happen is you know in the anime when Ash enters the Pokemon League is not like in the game you go directly to challenge the elite 4 and the champion, Ash battles other trainers and then he can challenge the elite four and the Champion well what if this game the Pokemon League is like in the anime.

  • Michael A. Lozoya

    I’d be happy with all of that. That would be awesome.

  • I love all of this except for the starters

    • Zoruart

      Same

    • The Aqua Flygon

      All but no gyms is growing on me

      • I believe the no gyms since they did them weird in GO

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Well GO is hardly an indication of what direction the main games are going in, being a spinoff :/

          • A MOBILE spin-off at that and being based on a separate mobile game just as a way to try to make money as I’ve said.

        • tHatpart

          they did them weird in GO because GO is based on an existing game’s model (ingress)

      • PercyEspeon

        I have to agree with you there. I can sorta stand Litten being that way (after all my hopes and dreams die and I cry on the inside)
        but the no gyms thing just feels off to me. Maybe it’s cause I’m used to the Gym format and having it gone just feels so different.
        I’ll get used to it, sure, but I’d definitely be weirded out during my first playthrough.
        Plus I play the two games at the same time for the first playthroughs, and use Gyms as checkpoints for switching, so I dunno what I’ll do if this turns out to be true.

        • I think establishing gyms will allow for more nonlinear progression though. I welcome it

          • PercyEspeon

            Ehhh not necessarily. You can still do gyms and be nonlinear (heck the original games do that, albeit not too good since they barely gave you hints/directions)
            Don’t get me wrong, it would be interesting, but at first it’ll be very weird to play through the game without Gyms since I’m so used to them. It doesn’t mean I’ll think it is a bad game.

          • I guess so. They could do what they do in Origins and change team based on your badges. Still, I think the series can only grow from this. Honestly though it’s how it’s implemented that determines if it’s a good idea

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          My sentiments exactly.

      • Michael A. Lozoya

        It says not in the traditional sense, so competitions?

        If there is no Dark type gym again, welp that’s the gym I’m making lol.

        Maybe We register our gyms online and people can battle each others gyms. Omg that would be cool.

        • Like a perfected version of what people tried to do with secret bases. I want a ghost gym!!

        • Nah. I doubt they’d do that. And it wouldn’t really work. Besides isn’t that how GO works a bit?

          • Michael A. Lozoya

            A guy can dream lol. I’ll be happy with a traditional game, but shaking things up more would be appreciated.

  • Anyone watching SGDQ? It’s the Mario Maker block and I’m loving it.

    • I have it as background noise.

  • Yeah just because they said “poison/fire pokemon” doesn’t give any crediblitiy to these rumors imo. Poison/Fire has been a wanted type combo, so I’m not buying it. Now if they they said “poison/fire lizard pokemon with a new ablitiy that could poison poison and steel type pokemon” than that would be a different story.

    • The Aqua Flygon

      Is this sarcasm?

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        I don’t see why it would be, this is pretty close to my personal feelings on the matter.

        • The Aqua Flygon

          No about the lizard is that sarcasm

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            About it being a lizard? Isn’t it called the toxic lizard Pokemon? Even if it is an amphibian.

          • The Aqua Flygon

            I’m ran does he really not know of it or was he pulling my leg

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            He probably didn’t know honestly.

    • Mmn plus the other stuff besides the outrageous and definitely fake stuff has been speculated before. The rumour could still be real though sadly.

    • PercyEspeon

      I have to agree with you there. Plus the fact that they added stuff we’ve always wanted (aka dolphin Pokemon) plus stuff we already suspect is most likely true (AKA Rockruff being a werewolf)
      Doesn’t mean it can’t be true, but it’s things to keep in mind, especially with rumors.

    • thekingbrad

      They did say poison/fire lizard actually. But nothing about ability

  • Zoruart

    Instead of having no gyms, I wish there WERE gyms, but we could have more freedom, so instead of challenging the gyms in order, we could travel the region going to the gyms in order of which we wanted. Of course the game would know the number of gyms you would have challenged, so the levels would go up. As some people might just choose not to go to gyms at all, and just travel the region instead, we could have certain areas of each island locked so that you would need to beat a gym to get in

  • Michael A. Lozoya

    What of when you make your gym, yiu can register it online and everyone can battle against eachother’s own gym.

    It says no gyms in the traditional sense, so perhaps depending on what gym type you settle for making it will affect what the other gyms types in the game will eventually settle as. And you can battle the established gyms after as well.

    • Zoruart

      :O battle 8 gyms of your choice online – then people can stop complaining about the games being too easy

  • Cosimo

    What does it mean when you see swirling grass in Pokemon GO? And I don’t know about “no gyms” seems a little, un-Pokemon. And I’d be okay with these starters but they seem so detailed and a lot meow intricate then their first forms.

  • Why is it that every fire type starter since gen 5 has had a terrible final evolution?
    Emboar is ok at best and Delphox is a gross fox. Now if these are real then Litten has literally become this

    http://www.puclpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/2016-05-20-22-43-45-391306065.png

    • The Aqua Flygon

      Nnnnnnnnooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Well not LITERALLY, the design has more effort and nuance than you give it credit for, even if it is another fire/fighting

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Like I said in the last article. I could see it being played a little differently. What if they played up the heel wrestler theme. Then they could make it dark type rather than fighting while still giving it that look.

    • NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • Claus H. Luíz

      “Delphox is a gross fox.”

      …Yo mama is a gross fox.
      Delphox is superb!

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    I think it’d be really cool to go to a region that doesn’t have a preexisting league. It’d be interesting to see the region grow and change as the officials create the league and you could meet new people along the way that would eventually become gym leaders/E4. It makes it kind of exciting. I like the idea of going to a region that’s not already set up in the typical fashion we know of. I makes the world feel more unique rather than ever region magically having their own special league. the gym leaders and E4 have to have started from somewhere. Why not show us how it all gets started. Also it would provide us with a different kind of story to adventure through. Honestly the old formula is getting kind of boring and if this makes them have to make up a more creative story I think it could be a lot of fun!

    • I really hope that this gives an excuse to develop Elite 4 members further than usual. That is my main issue with alot of them.

      (also if this is true then the guy with Tapu Koko is totally an E4 member)

      • The Aqua Flygon

        His names hala

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Right it would make them flesh out more characters than the typical bunch and that would make the world (Alola) feel more “lived in” than the rest of the regions do. also I think Hala would be more like one of the Island leaders the rumor leaks talk about. so he’d be more of a gym leader than a E4, but I suppose he could be an outlier then

        • The Aqua Flygon

          If gyms do exist he has to be a gym leader hands down no questions asked

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Even if there are gym leaders he would still make a great elite four member.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            even if they don’t I’d imagine the Kahunas of all the islands would act in a similar fashion to the typical gym leaders. Hala being one of them lol

          • The Aqua Flygon

            Hala has to have to be something they say he is one of the most powerful gyms

    • Michael A. Lozoya

      It would also give you more insight and interraction with the NPCs that will become gym leaders and maybe the Elite Four as well.

  • Raphael

    in my opinion it is no indicator to tell that there is a fire/poison pokemon .. it is just a good guess like if we can predict that there is a new turtle pokemon 😛

    • Cosimo

      I think they’re referring to Salandit

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        They could be, or they could have made a luck guess, as Raphael said.

      • Raphael

        ups this post makes no sense xD
        i wanted to say that just because salandits type was predicted and than leaked doesn’t mean that the other rumors are true

  • Ira Eidle

    I LOVE those designs for Rowlet and Popplio’s evolutions. Litten’s looks cool enough but it looks to be ANOTHER FREAKING FIRE/FIGHTING TYPE. WHY.

  • Yeah I love this Popplio evolution so much. There isn’t really a pokemon like it. The colors are really bright. Great!

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I wasn’t too keen on how feminine it is, but upon reviewing all the other starters evolutions I’d say it’s about time we get a one that doesn’t look manly lol

      • The Aqua Flygon

        I’m still not all for it but it’s grown on me significantly in the last hour

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          In the last hour hahaha You mean when they became slightly more relevant? lol

          • The Aqua Flygon

            More I looked more instead of judging by far off looks

      • I like it when feminine pokemon aren’t just cute like Jiggilypuff.

    • Michael A. Lozoya

      I can already see the Little Mermaid, Finding Nemk, Finding Dori memes.

      Arrow memes for Rowlet’s final.

      for Litten’s final memes with famous wrestlers like The Rock.

      This would be fun.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    Not gonna lie unless the Litten evolution is something other than Fire/Fighting I think I’d have to Go with my number 2 choice of Rowlet. Dat final evolution is boss lol

    • The Aqua Flygon

      He is the green Arrow Prodigy but let’s wait for middle stage the one I like most of the time

    • PercyEspeon

      I might have to change starters for one of my games to Popplio if that’s the case
      I feel so sad saying that tho, considering I really wanted to name Litten after my cat. *sigh* Oh well

  • Ben

    Personally I don’t believe any leak that states there will be a dolphin Pokémon. It’s total fan service – everybody wants a dolphin. So many fakes jump right on this claim.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      It’s gotta happen eventually right? lol

    • knightwolf09

      Didin’t people really want a koala pokemon, and now we got one? Plus doesn’t a dolphin in this region make sense?

  • Are those types still on the site? With the starter typings? If so I think it leads more evidence to these being real. These got taken down but those haven’t

    • PercyEspeon

      Wasn’t there a fighting type after Popplio’s water type? I dunno about you, but Sirens don’t really scream fighting to me, considering that they lure people to their deaths, not necessarily using force/beating them.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Well they could claw their prey’s eyes out

        • PercyEspeon

          Still isn’t enough to warrant a Fighting type tho
          And not really, since their historical depiction only talks about leading sailors to their deaths by shipwrecks with the sharp rocks around them, really. Not so much doing the killing themselves.

      • The Aqua Flygon

        Mabey it is Psychic because mabey it controls ships to come near

        • EarthenWarrior

          As much as it tears my stomach lining like churning razorblades dipped in acid, Mermaids are extremely known for being fairy like

          • The Aqua Flygon

            I know but still a Psychic power to bring them close would be nifty

          • EarthenWarrior

            I’m still waiting for a truly pure evil Pokemon
            Not misunderstood or tortured
            Pure evil, an poke embodiment of disparity

            Insatyr
            Dark/Fairy
            The Sinister Pokemon
            This Pokemon hides in dense forests, it is drawn to negative emotions and draws power from other’s hostility and uses it to cause disharmony

      • Here’s what I’m thinking then (if the types are coming into play here)
        Fire/Ground
        Grass/Flying
        Water

        As much as I hate Fire/Ground, I cant really care about typing with that design

        • The Aqua Flygon

          Finally another person who likes water only as an idea

          • I mean, I would prefer part Fairy or Psychic

          • The Aqua Flygon

            I like Pshchic idea

  • EarthenWarrior

    I have to say I really like the idea
    Heatigre
    Fire/Fighting
    The Contender Pkn
    Naturally hot blooded, Heatigre lives to fight stronger opponents, around its waist is a belt of flames that grow larger and hotter the more opponents it has bested
    Physically strong and Agile, with a somewhat high stamina, it’s blazing speed and great strength is the perfect lead

    And I called the Rowlet Bowinowl and Popplio’s Hayacanymph

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      You of all people I didn’t expect to have a positive outlook on these rumors hahaha

      • EarthenWarrior

        It’s a freaking wrestler with a belt of fire
        The rest can rot in a pile of my dung

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Well at least you have something to be positive about haha

          • EarthenWarrior

            Rot in hell you dirty SOB

    • “Hot blooded” get out of here

      • EarthenWarrior

        Make me

        • ….
          Well ok then I guess you got me

          • EarthenWarrior

            Good….I hope we can grow as individuals
            *hugs*

          • *hug*

            *+200 character growth*

          • EarthenWarrior

            Do you watch Futurama

          • Nah haven’t

          • EarthenWarrior

            Well there is a scene that depicts this
            And Bender is my role model

          • “Oh wait you were serious? Let me laugh harder.”

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        Hot blooded certainly fits it’s apperance though.

  • SesquipedalianPokedex

    My opinions on the potential new Pokemon
    Dolphin: I suppose fans want it and the concept is talked to death, hopefully it wouldn’t be too bland or Fakemon-ish
    Sea Cucumber: I think this would make a good Pokemon, I can see this happening
    Snowman: In Alola?! Maybe on top of that snowy mountain, but still, a snowman in a reagon based on Hawaii?! Whatever it could be a really cute ice/fairy or pure ice
    Mushroom- But we already have the part mushroom creepy parasect and the perfect Foongus, we don’t need another mushroom! Hopefully they try a new angle :/
    Rugby Monkey- this sounds horrible and bizarre. What does that even mean, Rugby Monkey?! I hope the ideas mesh and it ends up working out in execution like hawlucha

    • My pack of ramen is Dongpo Por

      What about Shroomish?

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        Forgot about him, so that’s THREE lines of mushroom Pokemon, we don’t need any more!

  • Anon

    Every time i see an article or comment with those “concept arts” i die a little inside and also does my hope for sun and moon having good pokemon 😔

    • Ok but Tapu Koko

      • Anon

        Oh yes thats right! Maybe there is hope

    • Well we have a few good mons.

    • Natsu

      Then Generation 5 must have been a nightmare for you considering the amount of backlash it received solely due to its Pokemon designs. Pokemon designs are a crucial and entertaining aspect of Pokemon, but there’s much more to Pokemon than just designs. They’re like the equivalent of animals and just as animals in our world are weird, odd, a little insane, and downright ugly, the same applies for Pokemon. Plus, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder! 😀

      • Gen 5 has some great designs IMO. I wish others felt the same way

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          I feel the same

        • I thought most of them were good. Just not Tepig line/Literal Trash line/Literal Ice Cream line and Mandibuzz line or Gothita line. And not based on design but the Archeops ability was bad.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            its funny that Unova had I think the only generation where some pokemon were designed by a westerner (a guy from the UK) and almost all his pokemon were hated (he designed the vanilluxe line)

            [I don’t hate any pokemon other than mr. mime, I’m just sayin]

          • What else did he design? The Ice Cream line looked good the idea behind it was stupid though.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            pretty sure he designed simisear, or maybe it was a card of pansear he designed, let me check

          • Haha oh? Eh. I didn’t care for the monkeys but they weren’t bad.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            OK! My bad! I thought he was also the one that designed the rubbish and binnacle lines, but now that I look at the ones he’s designed I retract my previous statement, because a lot of these are really cool pokemon.
            Vanillite, Vanillish Vanilluxe Golett Golurk Vullaby Mandibuzz Phantump and Trevenant were all designed by him, and he did do the art for a pansear card

          • I hate all of those besides Phantump and Trevenant. xD

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            fair enough, cant say any of them really jump out to me either, but I still love them,because they are not mr. mime

          • lol mmn Mr. Mime is creepy.

          • EarthenWarrior

            Always….literally always whenever there is Pokemon bashing Trubbish and Vanilite

          • They are some of the worst ideas ever. Along with Binugly.

          • EarthenWarrior

            There once was an ugly Binnacle
            He was so ugly HE EVOLVED AND SLAPPED EVERYONE’S SHIT SIDEWAYS

          • He was so ugly he evolved and became even uglier and everybody hated him.

        • Natsu

          I loved the Generation 5 designs! I love weird and outlandish things and was probably the turning point for Pokemon in terms of taking risks.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I think gen 5 was full of risk taking as a whole and that’s why it’s the best generation in my opinion.

          • The Aqua Flygon

            Good designs yet some Pokemon were odd whispers “Woobat’s better than Zubat yet Cacturn is better than Maractus”

          • Gen 5 had some great grass types though, I wish Maractus was more interesting

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I always forget Maractus exists :/

          • EarthenWarrior

            WHERE THE FUCKING HELL IS EXCADRILL I WILL KILL YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE BLOODLINE IF YOU DO NOT PUT EXCADRILL ON THIS LIST

          • Edited. Haven’t had alot of experience with him so he didn’t immidietly pop in my head

          • EarthenWarrior

            *Glaring intensity running a knife down the side of my face*

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            wtf

          • EarthenWarrior

            Two things
            I’m absolutely deranged and two Excadrill is extremely important to me

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            i mean, there is certainly never a dull moment with you around XD

          • EarthenWarrior

            Every group needs the borderline psychotic with an iron fisted view with an incomprehensible well of bizzare and violent thoughts

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            sure…

          • I… I dont think that… …

            Nevermind

          • EarthenWarrior

            Well too bad you know you’re all stuck with me
            For life
            MWAHAHAHAAAAHHHAHHHAAAAAAAAA
            *Deep inhale*
            HAAAAAAHAHAAAHHHAAAHAAAAHHHAaaahhhhhhh

          • EarthenWarrior
          • That show is so weird and creepy and gross.

          • EarthenWarrior

            I watched it throughout my whole childhood
            And the grim adventures of Billy and Mandy
            (Which could explain a lot)

          • Billy and Mandy was also bad. It was better than Ren and Stimpy but eh.

          • Anon

            *on my last day alive*
            Me: *looks at wife* thanks for being for my whenever i needed you goodbye
            Wife: no plz i will keep being with you just dont die pls
            Me: what? No im talking to earthen wtf you were never here for me *dies*

          • The Aqua Flygon

            Oh no Anon you must not realize now your gonna be stuck with Houndoom’s running about and Shedinja everywhere

          • Anon

            Hmm im okay with houndoom dont know about shedinja though

          • The Aqua Flygon

            More a guess that they will be like Anubis At the gates to another worldly place

          • Anon

            Awesome you included serperior my favorite pkmn serperior +10 buut you forgot many many more 😉

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            all of these are great

            [sad there is no cinncino or mincinno though :c]

          • The Aqua Flygon

            My fav was Oshawott who doesn’t love little Oshy if you don’t want to then don’t add mine

          • As soon as I posted this I remembered a ton. Cinncino, Reniculous, Whimmsicott, Lilligant, and a ton others

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            omg yes ^ all of my favs in like one post

          • Get the goth girl out of here. xD

          • I love her though she’s awesome

          • I don’t hate her as much as before but eh.

          • Also I know alot of people hate this kind of stuff but I love the art of it as a human

            http://static.zerochan.net/Gothitelle.full.1175736.jpg

          • That actually looks pretty cool.

          • EarthenWarrior

            I’ve always liked gothic fashion

          • I like it’s little ribbons alot

          • EarthenWarrior

            gothapotamus

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            What? No reuniclus, Zekrom, cofagrigus and sigalyph?! My children!!!

          • Woo Reuniclus ftw. Solosis is weird but it became cool.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Definitely!

          • By cool I mean cute. It is super adorable. It is like a gummy bear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBNZnd2_C7Y

          • Best possible thumbnail btw

          • I know right?

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            A green gummy bear butt, the Pinical of human progress!

          • Exactly. lol

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            Roggenrola and Solosis…. are both very awkward looking if you catch my drift

          • I get yah. xD

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I still don’t like Roggerola when it’s fully evolved, when it opens its mouth it looks like a muppet :/

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            AHAHAHAHAHAHA! XD well then

            I only like the shiny one I have, because why not 😛

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Yeah I have a shiny one as well! It’s my favorite gigalith I’ll ever own though 😉

      • Anon

        “Maybe gen 5 was a nightmare for you” nope favorite gen

        • Natsu

          Why I added, “maybe” and didn’t assume. 😀

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      So what you’re saying is that three Pokemon you don’t like ruin all the rest of the designs? As if they change how good the other designs that we’ve seen and haven’t seen? lol

      • Anon

        Well if the starters evos are bad it is likely that many other evos will get ruined

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          What about Vikavolt? That shit is amazing!!

          • Anon

            Yeah but like i said im just scared lol hopefully they are all like vikavolt and these do turn out to be fake, if they are real i dont really mind rowlets that much but the other will have to get some getting used to

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      why? tbh all of the pokemon we’ve seen so far have been like, top notch, I mean sure you can say what you want about bruxish but all the other pokemon have been fantastic in design

      • The Aqua Flygon

        Komala my second favorite

      • Anon

        Yeah i know im just scared that all evolve into weird things

  • Ithsme

    I don’t mind this at all! The idea of creating a league sounds really cool and it switches up the formula! If this is true, I hope you can recruit gym leaders and battle them post game.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I think the lack of preexisting structure is what makes me the most excited. It makes the world feel more fluid rather than you knowing that you have to go from point A to point B over and over and over again until you reach the end. lol

    • Anon

      I think it is weird like, what even motivates you to create a league? Why do you want to create a league? So many questions so little answers

      • Ithsme

        Because the region you came from had one and everyone liked it? I don’t know that is the best I could come up with.

  • Natsu

    The archer theme for Rowlet’s final evolution is very unique and pleasing along with the mermaid for Popplio. The Fire/Fighting wrestling cat for Litten… not so much, but if these rumors turn out to be true, it’ll probably grow on me! If Bruxish of all things can grow on me, a wrestling cat surely will also! 😀

    • Ithsme

      Have you heard my evidence for the Rowlet becoming an archer? There is actually a surprising amount of evidence backing it up.

  • It’s raining here.

    When were the rumors posted? If this was posted during the last few days, I don’t think it has too much credibility.

    And did they predict Salandit specifically? Anyone can predict such and such type that hasn’t been made yet, but unless they predict the specific Pokemon, the confirmation doesn’t hold any water. Vague type predictions alone do not make for accurately gauging a rumor’s credibility.

    I’m gonna wait until one of the other Pokemon is revealed, then I’ll take these as being real.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      They were originally posted a month or so ago. Well before we had any of the new non starter/legends Pokemon. Thus why many people brushed off these evolutions as it seemed way too early to get leaks of such Pokemon.

      • I have three flashdrives

        Okay, but again, I don’t see how a unique typing being revealed makes it credible. People can say that GameFreak will make a Pokemon with such and such type and be right most of the time because it is assumed that at least some Pokemon revealed will have never before seen typing combinations.

        Maybe that might make this leak true, but did this rumor list any other type combinations apart from Poison/Fire? I find it highly suspect that its credibility is based around one specific type combination but with no other ones being listed in the leak (One of the Pokemon is said to have a unique typing, but that particular rumor is based around its name, not its typing).

  • RIP Hot Pockets

    SGDQ 2016- SGDQ 2016

  • If these are real I am naming Rowlet Oliver. And Popplio Ariel.

    • Anon

      Im naming litten trash jk

      • I am naming mine straight into the trash.

    • Succumbing to my inner Undertale trash and naming Popplio Shyren

      • I don’t know what Shyren is… I only ever watched one playthrough of Undertale but looking it up… it fits. Kinda…

      • Actually no, naming it Serenade

        • Makes sense.

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          Imma name mine Raidne and have it go into double battles with my Mismagius “Hecate” XP

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      OMG, that’s perfect! Lol!

      • I am not feeling Ariel as much as Oliver. But seriously I love the name Oliver if people get the reference it really is perfect. Haha.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Then just get a bruxish and name it Ursula

          • *hiss* Bruxish will never be in my team or PC.

        • PercyEspeon

          I do 😉 At least I hope.
          Oliver Queen right? Green Arrow? It’s what I plan to name mine as

          • Yup Oliver Queen the Green Arrow.

    • Shady

      wat about Litten ….Tiger Mask ?

      • EarthenWarrior

        Heatigre

      • !!!!
        EL REVERSO

        • The Reverse? As in reverse that evolution.

          • Anon

            But reverso i not a real spanish so this just mean “the reverso”

          • Mmn when I was learning spanish my fellow students added o to the end of everything and acted like that was the correct word.

          • Anon

            Ikr as a primary spanish speaker i find this very weird haha

          • Ooh a native spanish speaker. Oh my. I will not disgrace myself butchering the language with what little I know about it even after a year and a half of studying it.

          • Anon

            It’s ok i dont think you can butcher it more than it already is where i live, some even consider it spanglish because it uses many english words like sexy, sandwhich, cornflakes etc

          • lol Uh… mmn.

        • nevermind

          • You cannot back out of this false Lapis.

          • itsacyanideandhappinesscartoonthing

          • Is there supposed to be an image? You failed me Disqus.

      • I am never using Litten if these are real.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Alright I don’t know if anyone saw this but whatever here it is again
    I’m still waiting for a truly pure evil mythical Pokemon
    Not misunderstood or tortured
    Pure evil, a pokemon embodiment of disparity and chaos

    Insatyr
    Dark/Fairy
    The Sinister Pokemon
    This Pokemon hides in dense forests, it is drawn to negative emotions and draws power from other’s hostility and uses it to cause disharmony

    This Pokemon is just pure evil, and it enjoys doing so

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      glad that its dark/fairy because everyone knows how messed up fairies are, they are straight up murders in a lot of fairy tales XD

      • EarthenWarrior

        Them Germatic folk stories

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          are the best * 😛

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          there are also a lot from other cultures where they are equally messed up too, but like, the changelings stand out the most in my mind of messed up fairy stories

          • EarthenWarrior

            I……am…….compelled
            Forgive me
            https://youtu.be/ATH_OPjOJgo

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            ok… no… now my little pony stuff is going to show up in my yt feed -_-

          • Remove it from your watch history. Then it wont be suggested!

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            im not even logged in, it just does it automatically on my laptop 😛

          • Maybe from your search history then?

          • EarthenWarrior

            Let the seeds of influence be planted, and sown with curiosity

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            nope

    • Anon

      Idk but isnt yveltal the bodiment of death and destruction or something?

      • The Lavender Swirlix

        yeah but its not necessarily evil

      • EarthenWarrior

        Well here’s the thing
        We do not know if Yveltal does this out of malice or it is simply following its natural instinct to survive

        • Anon

          Oh ok i get it now you want it to be evil just for fun

          • Anon

            I mean that it does evil stuff for fun not because it needs to

          • EarthenWarrior

            Yes and no
            It is naturally wicked and sinister
            But I can easily see those Writers sugar coating it so it’s lonely and acting out

            But I want straight up evil

          • Anon

            Hoopa unbound was perfect for this but too bad the writers decieded to make it just an evil demon that was possessing it or something like that

          • EarthenWarrior

            Exactly

  • Natsu

    Everytime I try to create an account this appears, freezes the screen, and logs me out. Honestly, I’ve been trying for 2 days and no luck! Any tips or helpful advice, please! I’m desperate!

    • PercyEspeon

      Honestly, I don’t have the faintest clue. Maybe delete the app and redownload it? Turn your phone off then on?
      I suck at fixing things, especially computers and phones. D:
      Hopefully it’ll stop for you soon, either on its own or with someone’s help 🙂

    • Anon

      Hmm u are using android but with an iphone i would recommend deleting it and instaling it again XD

    • ShinyXatu

      I feel like this game is going to be a mess for a month or two until they can handle the tremendous weight on servers. It logs me out every time and when I try to go back in, it only works every 10 times or so. I’d say to wait it out for now.

  • I really hope that these pictures of the starters disappear completely so I can have one of the few digital copies left

  • ShinyXatu

    I’m in New York right now and have had trouble keeping up with these leaks everyone was talking about. Thanks PJ! But I believed these from the moment I saw them, and have no problems with them if they are real.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      You are one of the more accepting people I’ve seen on the subject lol They aren’t bad rumors at all I say so myself. I just hate when people deny things simply because they don’t like them. I guess we’ll find out sooner rather than later if they are real. At least I hope so lol

      • PercyEspeon

        I think there’s some of us who deny them based on other reasons that are plausible and not even because we don’t like them, but that’s how I see it. :3

        • PercyEspeon

          Heck, I don’t mind these things, in fact I’m crazy for two of the starter evos and the proposed Pokemon, I just see some faults within how its presented.

  • EarthenWarrior

    Alight I’m calling it a night
    Don’t touch my stuff (It’s booby trapped)

    • *Poke*

    • Anon

      Good kind of booby trap or bad kind?

      • EarthenWarrior

        Pull this lever

        • Anon

          Ok *pulls lever*

          • Anon

            Omg i love this movie!

          • EarthenWarrior

            *a large hatch in the floor opens up and a large 12ft 1600 pound Grizzly bear erupts from the hatch mauling you without remorse*

          • What’s with you and levers lately?

          • EarthenWarrior

            True story
            This was my brother’s idea
            See my brother frequently plays D&D and he’s usually dungeon master
            And one of his golden rules is never get angry when he throws bad stuff your way or when it’s clearly a bad move
            And his famous line is a lever that reads “Pull for Bear” so don’t get upset when u pull it and get ripped to shreds

          • Anon

            I prefers izma’s water slide

          • EarthenWarrior

            Well too bad your a bleeding pile of carnage now

          • Anon

            My long life dream is finally realized!

          • EarthenWarrior

            Your survivability is a 0.00000000000001% chance

          • Is it not Yzma?

          • Anon

            Hmm i think it is

      • ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

        • Anon

          Yeah you got the joke haha 😏😏

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    the no gym is throwing me off. How is that gonna work. Is that going to make the game even shorter? ugh

    • Probably. I was already worried with how small this region looks and if this is real it isn’t looking good.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      It’s the gyms that take away from the games to be honest. They give GF a crutch to lean on and it makes their stories far more lazy. If there aren’t the traditional gyms it could mean that the story itself will be more fleshed out. No gyms doesn’t make the game shorter it just makes it more necessary for the actual story to be well written is all lol

      • The Lavender Swirlix

        ^this, all of my yes

        tbh if anything I feel like not having gyms will make the games longer than usual, just because they will have to have story elements to set up why there are no gyms and why you have to randomly go fight some random person wherever you fight them

        • The Aqua Flygon

          I hope no more characters that only seem to Dwadle off and talk for 20 minutes cough* Tierno, Shauna, Rival* cough about stuff I couldn’t give to Hoothoot’s about

      • At the same time it will probably be shorter.

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          I guess we won’t know until we play right?

      • Anon

        But somehow black and white got away with having both gyms AND a full-fledged story

        • Best Pokemon story. 10/10

        • PercyEspeon

          *claps*
          I’m neutral about the no gyms thing, but this is something I really agree with

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          True, but in my opinion the gyms are less important than a good story. Sure it’s been a part of the series for 20 years, but a slight change could be a good thing. If these are true then they are trying something different and that could be a good thing.

          • They have shown they can do a story while keeping gyms though and all removing the gyms do is shorten the already short games even more.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            True, but again what’s stopping them from creating a story that doesn’t entirely depend on the gyms? The Pokemon series is about traveling the world with your Pokemon. Not everyone’s journey’s are about going to gyms and doing the same thing over and over again. If they fill the gym gap with something worthwhile then the games can be just as fulfilling.

          • I wouldn’t mind one that didn’t focus on gyms so long as it was long and not short. But everything about SM is pointing towards something shorter and the lack of gyms wouldn’t be doing it any favors.

          • PercyEspeon

            I’m just wondering something here
            So just because games are short, it automatically makes it bad?
            I mean, I haven’t played too many games in my life, but I’ve seen some ‘short’ games praised for what it does.
            Not trying to cause an attack, I’m just wondering your viewpoint on it is.

          • Longer games makes it feel more like your money went to something worthwhile.

          • Anon

            Actually yeah i wanna get my money’s worthwhile of gameplay so now i stand with that short will not be good haha

          • Gameplay and story.

          • PercyEspeon

            I can understand that :3
            I feel like a good game should matter, not the length of it, so I’ll consider it worth my money’s worth if it gets me a good experience, but I understand that it’s my own view on things, considering I am a very easy-to-please person in general. (So much so that, when I go to food places and get my order wrong, most of the time I just go along with it since I don’t like to cause trouble xD)

          • mmn… I can get that. And like if I pay 10-15 I am not expecting as much as something that costs 60. In Pokemon’s case it is 40. So I expect at least a bit of something.

          • Anon

            Yes short games might be good but the thing is pokemon which ppl will go riot about it but i wouldnt mind it much aslong as it is nearly as good as BWs

          • PercyEspeon

            I feel like having no gyms is more than a ‘slight change’ but I still wouldn’t mind it.
            But you can still do a good story and be nonlinear with gyms, there are examples in earlier games and people here have come up with good ideas incorporating gyms.
            But, to your credit and the original poster of the leaks, it would be interesting to see and some of the ideas you guys come up with would be super awesome to play.
            So, I’ll just stick to being neutral/not caring what happens to gyms.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        imo, i enjoy the gyms. every time i beat one i have a sense that i getting closer the end. The last two gens gave us amazing gym leaders with the majority having a backstory (BW gym leaders were all stars) . I just love gym leaders so much and i will miss the battles and all the training and grinding you do for them:(

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          Yeah, I love gym leaders, I never want them to go away!

        • Anon

          Yes exactly nothing beats the feeling of beating elesas emolga or whitneys miltank!

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            literally me! i had so much trouble with elesa and her emolga even with sandile

          • Anon

            Yeah! I had a guidebook that said that the best way was with an ice type and i was like “what ice types? There are no ice types before reaching elesa” hahaha

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Don’t get me wrong I like the gyms too and I have no problem with keeping them in general. I just think the way the games use them as crutches is kind of boring. I want something in between them. I can’t tell you how many times we’ve gone form one gym town to the next with absolutely nothing story wise happening.

          • PercyEspeon

            I mean, not every place has to be conducive to the plot. We need some down moments too. Plus, it’s kind of unrealistic to expect things happening around every corner.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Fair enough, but I’d rather not take two steps out of one town and then end up in the next one almost immediately lol

          • PercyEspeon

            Yeah, I hate short routes as well, but if the map of Alola is at least somewhat accurate, I don’t think there’s too many short routes in Alola :3

          • Melemele seems the worst about it but eh I think there are several short routes.

          • Anon

            Oh god i dont even know how route 1 in kalos got the title of route like they shouldve just made it all vaniville or aquacord and named route 2 route 1

          • PercyEspeon

            yeah, that was kind of terrible. I was like ‘….wat? there’s not even grass like boi quit playing’

    • knightwolf09

      I doubt it’ll be shorter, considering the size of each island implies there’s a lot to explore.

      • Haha not really it implies the opposite really. Routes are short, islands are small, only a couple towns, etc. Looks like the shortest game yet which is NOT what should be happening.

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          I disagree but thats fine, still think it looks pretty large and fleshed out to me

          • Looks could be deceiving and we won’t really know until we play the games ourselves in… 4 months.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            yeah

        • knightwolf09

          You can see the overall scale in the trailers themselves and compare them to the map. They’re huge.

  • Ok, I’m going too.

    I’ll leave you with some tear jerkingly bad comics I made like, 2 years ago. Complete with comic sans for ultimate cringe

    http://imgur.com/a/odyia

    Oh god, why?

    • lol What is this even? But it is a comic so using comic sans makes sense.

    • The Aqua Flygon

      Yes yes and Yes genius

    • Anon

      Haha these are pretty funny imo

  • ShinyXatu

    I hope CoroCoro leaks before the 11th/12th when I get home! I have fond memories of my trip to Europe (specifically England) and seeing Litleo and Flabebe for the first time. I wanted a true lion Pokemon so badly!

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I hope CoroCoro confirms or denies these rumors. rumors can be fun, but eventually they either become boring or cause fighting lol

      • I want it to deny them. >.> Show us 5 gym leaders and a non-fighting LItten.

        • Anon

          Yes please

      • ShinyXatu

        I don’t think we’ll be seeing those starters until November, but I still believe that there are some mind-blowing Pokemon to be revealed before then. I mean seriously, we just got a Fire/Poison Pokemon! The summer is generally when lots of huge reveals come out, so I say that this new issue could reveal multiple new Pokemon, even with the July 1 reveal!

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Well yeah minus the starters as they aren’t usually shown until the month of release, but the other Pokemon the rumors talk about seem like ones we could even get this month. Or when we end up getting info on the bracelets. that could tell us if the rumors are fake or not lol

      • Shady

        wat if this tiger actually a heel wrestler Fire-Dark would be fit too.

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      omg you went to england after the brexit? how was it?

      • Anon

        Im pretty sure litleo and flabebe were revealed three year before the brexit xD

      • ShinyXatu

        This was 3 years ago 😛

        • thegreatcarbinkle

          yeah i need to practice my english more lol

          • English speakers often need to practice their english more.

  • “There will be no traditional Gyms and no Pokémon League in Alola. Your goal is to actually create one. After you do, an Elite 4 will appear which are the leaders of each island.” My heart sank when I read that. If this is true, this will be my last.

  • Ultron

    Definitely calling bullshit on these…all of these rumors are things you could easily draw from things that have already been revealed.

    • Anon

      Woo #teamfake 😉

      • Ultron

        Gamefreak is never going to get rid of gym leaders. That’s just ridiculous. Just some fake “leaker” who looked at the map and was like, “where are the gyms?”

        • I hope they don’t. If they do, I’m cancelling my pre-order.

          • Ultron

            That would just suck. I wouldn’t cancel my preorder but I’d most likely be upset. I really like how Gen 5 handled the gym leaders, I want it to go back to that.

        • Anon

          Haha this is exactly what i think

          • Ultron

            There’s not even enough new things for this to be slightly credible haha. A dolphin. Really? Literally everyone wants a fucking dolphin pokemon. They didn’t even tell us this “unique combination” that Marshadow is. BS!

    • PercyEspeon

      I’m more neutral, but I am leaning towards fake myself, but that’s cause I see the flaws that it presents, like you mention. Something about the whole thing is off, to me.

      • Ultron

        I knew for sure once I read the Rockruff one. Literally everyone was guessing a werewolf or a wolf…Also, I highly highly doubt it’ll be a werewolf because that’s pretty much what Zoroark is, except as a fox.

        • Anon

          Yeah i want rockruff to turn into a normal wolf sort of like a growlithe to arcanine situation

          • Ultron

            Yeah same!

        • PercyEspeon

          Plus, I tend to be wary of leaks that mention dolphin Pokemon, and they only thing they have that’s credible is guessing the typing, which is not something super credible. If they guessed Salandit as a whole, then it would be more credible.
          But I’m still open to the ideas they suggest.

          • Ultron

            Yeah the dolphin was a red flag haha. I think it would maybe be cool to scout for gym leaders and customize the game a bit (post elite four perhaps) but I want a damn dark gym!

          • PercyEspeon

            You’re not the only one 😀 It needs to happen honestly.
            Although, if they did mention the game having a dark Gym Leader, I’d be wary of that too, as that’s also a fan fav idea.
            Not saying both a dolphin Pokemon and dark gym can’t happen, but as leaks, it’s those ideas that make me question its authenticity

          • Ultron

            Yeah same :/// It’s sad that it’s basically a fantasy at this point

          • PercyEspeon

            It’s ideas that I would love to see, but doubt it will ever happen because of the fan love around it.
            *sigh* I’ll still keep hoping.

      • Anon

        Yeah i just cant see a main series game without gyms and a leagu, what would be the goal and motivation of the journey apart from catching pkmns?

        • Ultron

          There’s no point in being a pokemon trainer if there are not gyms to challenge. Plus why are you even training pokemon and fighting trainers if you’re not looking to beat someone? That’s a core point of the pokemon games.

          • Anon

            Exactly!

  • I was just thinking… if any game could work well with an open world I think Pokemon could. The only problem being balance. Pack it with cool quests, and exploration, a good story no real need for gyms necessarily since some people seem to like that. Super colorful and cartoon-y world. Big and well designed routes and towns that have Pokemon everywhere (icons rather than random encounters). Battles obviously still in but the gyms could be optional and tackled in any order. Your lead Pokemon perhaps even your whole team could follow you because we all want that.

    • Vlad

      Why on earth would you want six Pokemon trailing behind you at once? Where do they do that?

      • lol I dunno why not? We do want at least the lead following us to return.

  • If Pokemon doesn’t have Gyms anymore and is going to coordinate with this GO bullshit (which oh my god, in GO, there is no real Gyms and Masuda said he was thinking of ways to connect it to the main series back in September), I’m done with the series. I will cancel my pre-orders for Pokemon Sun and Moon.

    • tHatpart

      Connect to the main series = transfer Pokemon over, coordinate with events, etc

    • Ultron

      Honestly the whole gym thing in Pokemon Go is kinda lame to me. I don’t even want to join one in that game (which I also can’t even play.) Not a fan of their leveling and evolution methods either. That just doesn’t feel like pokemon….

  • knightwolf09

    Actually there is a way to make the no gym leaders thing work. If your goal is to create a league, you kind of need 8 trainers for leaders. So you go to multiple islands to scout out 8 powerful trainers, and in order to recruit them you have to battle them and if you win they’re now your gym leader. That you have your technical gym leader battle, and it keeps the game’s length.

    • Vlad

      Game freak is not going to do away with a core part of the game that’s been there from the beginning. Rarely do they stray away from their repeatedly formula and when they do it’s usually to add something new not to take something so central away. Let’s get real people

      • knightwolf09

        Well you’re not working Gamefreak, aren’t you?

  • This is really pulling on my heartstrings. Game Freak must seriously be drunk and Masuda must be smoking weed and got hit in the head and became very retarted and killed Satoshi Tajiri if these rumors come true.

    • Anon

      Repeat with me: “These are just crappy rumors, they are fake and i must not listen to them, it is just some troll, these are fake”

      • I will try. But I’m extremely paranoid. If they predicted Salandit, then it must be right. Do we know if they posted this before or after the fact, these points seen above here? If after the fact, just a bunch of little shits trying to get attention. If before, I’m considering quiting the Pokemon series. Highly considering…

        • Anon

          I would say that predicting salandit was just luck like i mean you can say that a pokemon of a certain unused type like fighting/dragon will appear and it will likely happen because pokemon of new unique types are common in new gens

        • PercyEspeon

          They only predicted the typing, not Salandit itself, from what I heard.

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      y’all need to calm your selves, there is no use over reacting to a rumour…

      and even if these are true, we don’t have all the details yet, so they could do it in a way that you would never expect, I trust GF and Nintendo, so if this is what they are going to do, you can bet your ass its gunna be awesome

      • I’m not sure I’m in line with them removing Gyms and the Elite Four. I mean after all, in the teaser, they said, “It all comes together”.

      • PercyEspeon

        Yeah, at the end of the day, from what I see of SM, it looks to be an awesome game, so I’m definitely not going to stop wanting to play them because of new ideas.
        Heck, at first, I denied the Fairy type and Megas, they happened, I hated them, then when I played XY, I ended up tolerating them, even loving Fairies 😀 (Although it helps that Gardevoir become one xD)

        • This is a bigger change though. A new type was introduced before. But you’re right. At first, I hated Mega Evolutions then ended up loving them. But I just can’t see them removing Gyms and the Elite Four. I’m sorry. It’s been a staple. But maybe if there’s some kind of method to their madness, it can work. Thanks Percy, I guess I need to have an open mind.

          • PercyEspeon

            Believe me, I know I’m kind of weird with my thinking, but it’s cause of my experiences in life and my personality.
            It’s hard to keep an open mind, but it’s what I like to encourage. It’s why I love hearing different arguments and viewpoints and even ask why people think they way they think.
            It’s kind of not surprising I went with a Psychology major xD

          • You should be a therapist Percy. Seriously. xD

          • PercyEspeon

            I’m aiming to be a school psychologist with a therapy degree, so I’m glad I have some qualities to be that ^^

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          thank goodness for a little a little ray of positivity that is you in among all this negative energy 😛 lol, thank you for that ^_^

          • Percy is our best friend in troubling times. She calmed me down. I guess if there’s a method to the madness, I might be able to manage. But I just can’t shake the feeling something is fishy with all of this. I really can’t. Something doesn’t feel right with this rumor…

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            well I mean, at the end of the day, its still just a rumour 😛

          • PercyEspeon

            Aww I try to be :3
            But no worries, something feels off about this to me anyway, but I still try like to hear/see what people feel/think about it, negative or positive and I always like to offer an argument for the other side as well.

          • Something really feels off about the rumor. I completely agree. It just seems like someone is making this up. I mean, they didn’t really say anything. Just slapped on things they made up and stuff we knew already as well as an ongoing confidental sheet of the Starters we can’t prove fake. Could be one of our own on here! *Looks around the room*

          • PercyEspeon

            Awww, no problem, it’s just me. I guess because I know how it feels to be negative and have lived in it that I can be positive and stuff. Although it wasn’t the best time of my life, it did help me in some way.
            Thanks for the kind words 😀 <3

    • Chicolombia

      You’re really something else, aren’t ya? Why don’t you develop the games instead?

      • You act as if people can’t hate something that is obviously not good.

        • Chicolombia

          “good” is subjective. Nothing is ever truly good.

          • Sure. Ignore my personal opinion and his opinion. You do still act like everybody has to like everything about Pokemon.

          • Ultron

            The only thing about pokemon that everyone has to like is Volcarona 🙂 Good thing everyone here does, right? RIGHT?! -eye twitches-

          • lol Uh… sure. It is pretty cool.

          • Ultron

            😉 There ya go.

          • Chicolombia

            Again, you’re misinterpreting my statement. All I’m saying is if he feels so strongly negative about the GF development team, I challenge him to do something better himself. People are too entitled these days/.

          • He doesn’t like something and he shouldn’t be berated for doing that.

          • Chicolombia

            Suggesting that GF is drunk and Masuda is on some dank ass weed and became retarded… that isn’t much of a respectable opinion to me. He’s entitled to his opinion, but if he feels so strongly negative about it to suggest this, just stop following Pokemon and move on.?

          • Perhaps he might but you don’t need to attack him because of that he said.

          • Chicolombia

            There is no “attack” anywhere. Stop being so sensitive.

          • Telling him to go make a game himself and calling him entitled and such sounds like an attack to me.

          • Chicolombia

            It’s not an attack, it’s a challenge. What’s wrong with that? If you think you can do better that the GF dev team, then prove it. I’d love to see it.

          • He never said that he could though. He simply said he doesn’t like what they are doing.

          • Chicolombia

            He did not simply say that, he was insinuating that the GF development team was intoxicated and Masuda is retarded and smoking dank weed. If you can’t do any better than what they’re doing, then don’t make such bold statements. Realize that the game isn’t tailor made for you, it’s made for millions of people. If you don’t like something, tough. Get over it and enjoy the positives of what you do like. And if you don’t want to do that, then save yourself some time and energy and don’t play the game. Problem solved.

          • Sure. But you didn’t have to attack him.

          • Chicolombia

            I’m done wasting my time. Bye lmfao.

          • See ya.

          • Anon

            Hmm you two remind me of that “triggered” mema XD

          • How so?

          • Anon

            Idk i just imagine chico with the face of the woman in the meme haha

          • Ok…

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            ok, “trigger” jokes are not ok… do you realized the mental stress and hardships someone has to be put through for them to be “triggered” its not in the slightest bit funny

          • A lot of people are “triggered” over nothing nowadays though.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            … no because those people are not actually triggered, just idiots… doesn’t mean they don’t still deserve respect if something bothers them, but its not something that should be thrown around so nonchalantly

          • Eh I suppose. And the ones that say they are triggered over basically nothing may just be trolling and disrespecting what the term originally meant.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            pretty much

          • You eat butter on your popcorn? *triggered* Or whatever.

          • Anon

            Trigger jokes? The meme is the that shows a “liberal/equality woman” being “triggered” by nothing like a sign that says wage gap, its more of a critic about todays society being protesting about the slightests of things

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            I mean, a wage gap is something to protest about because its stupid and shouldn’t be that way… but that in no way will ever trigger someone

          • Anon

            Exactly that is the point…btw the sign actually says sewage gap but she just sees the wage gap part idk, i get what you mean

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            well if you said it was bad in your opinion, then thats not subjective, and would have just been brushed off, but when someone says “so obviously bad” it implies that any other opinion is wrong so… thats why

          • Right. I shouldn’t have said that. But that doesn’t negate that Chico is attacking him simply because he doesn’t like these rumours.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            i don’t know if its attacking per say, I think chico just wants people to have an open mind an understand that different people like different things about pokemon, and we cant expect to always get what we want out of it. maybe it wasn’t said in the best way, but still.

            I’m sure he didn’t mean to hurt any feelings if they were hurt, he’s a cool dude

            Why cant we all just get along :C lol

          • Chicolombia

            Chico approves of this comment. Thanks for being a reasonable human.

          • Ultron

            Anything that comes from humans, yes.

          • Anon

            Subjectivity is subjective aswell…is that right?

        • Anon

          Oh my god its like the complete opposite of earthen maybe even his mortal enemy!!

          • lol A bit. Me and Earthen are a lot alike while Chico here is the opposite.

    • Ultron

      When are pokemon rumors ever right though? xD I remember HUGE “leaks” during B/W that were posted here but none of them ever turned out true.

      • I wasn’t around here for the BW era. Lol.

        • Ultron

          Back when there wasn’t disqus lol

      • Anon

        I remember the leak about the car hahaha it turned out just to be a backpacker

  • Vlad

    If these starter evos are real, they will change all of the positives opinions I’ve had about these games so far. Additionally the rumored starter evolutions destroy everything likeable about litten, rowlett, and poplio in the first place

    • tHatpart

      starters make up a fraction of a game’s new pokemon count, and they are rarely the most popular pokemon in a generation. seriously, greninja was a rarity! people have been disappointed with starter evolutions since like gen 2, and most people when asked about their favourites pick non-starters

      • Anon

        Well to me blaziken sceptile infernape serperior and samurott do not disappoint

        • tHatpart

          that’s fair. my point is more that disliking a generation because of the starters would be odd, considering how they’re a small part of the full game and generally speaking are viewed pretty harshly compared to the rest

    • Ultron

      The Rowlet is the only decent one. Either way, I wouldn’t be mad if it turned out differently either

  • tHatpart

    “In addition, it seems that the majority of the images of the “leaked” starters (seen above) have mysteriously disappeared from Google image search.”

    i’m confussed about this btw, if you reverse image search the pictures they all still come up, dating back to the beginning of june when they first leaked..?

  • thegreatcarbinkle
    • Anon

      Hahaha yeah pretty accurate

    • PercyEspeon

      This is so true, not gonna lie xD

  • So, I’ve decided, if this rumor is true, I won’t quit Pokemon. If Gyms and Leagues are removed and you have to create them, there’s gotta be a method to this madness that Mr. Masuda and his team are creating. But still, it’s really weird for the 20th Anniversary to remove such a long-time staple to the series if this is true.

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      even if they do, I doubt that it will be that way from then on, probably a one time thing, special to alola, since they seem like a kinda of primitive/modern region, gyms will probs return

    • Ultron

      If they cut gyms the story had better be fucking amazing. Like I would want to know what the point of even training at all would be.

  • The Aqua Flygon

    Goodnight everyone see y’all tomorrow!

    • Anon

      G’nite mate

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      baii 🙂

    • Goodnight stranger! Lol.

    • Ultron

      -uses dream eater-

    • PercyEspeon

      See ya tomorrow 😀 Sweet dreams :3

  • Something really feels off about the rumor. I just get this vibe. It just seems like someone is making this up. I mean, they didn’t really say anything. Just slapped on things they made up and stuff we knew already as well as an ongoing confidental sheet of the Starters we can’t prove fake. Could be one of our own on here! *Looks around the room*

    • Ultron

      It’s spongebill.

      • PercyEspeon

        Oh no. D:

        • Ultron

          He was insane

          • PercyEspeon

            From what I saw, since I wasn’t around to see him, he was.

          • Ultron

            He had a list of the people he hated but I was never on it :/ I was kinda jealous

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            You weren’t? Weird. I remember you being on his hit list as well haha

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            but percy is like, the most innocent person on this site
            😛

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            innocent? pfttt she just sent me nudes on Skype. she’s a psycho

          • PercyEspeon

            Shhh stahp xD

          • Ultron

            Damn, percy….didn’t know you rolled like that

          • PercyEspeon

            Yep, I totally send them to strangers 😛
            Hit me up on Craigslist.

          • PercyEspeon

            😉 Believe me, I’ve seen/heard a lot of things on the internet and in real life
            I’m far from innocent.
            Nice? Yes. Innocent? Oh, I lost that years ago xD

          • PercyEspeon

            When?!
            I thought he was before XY???
            Even then, I don’t think I ever interacted with the guy

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            It was during XY times.

      • Chicolombia

        OH SHIT THE MEMORIES LMFAOOO

        • Ultron

          Miss that little bugger 😉

        • Hockward

          MEMORIES WITH YOU ARE THE BEST.

          • Chicolombia

            Hop off my d!ck bro you act like we’ve met before. Take me for dinner first.

          • Hockward

            STEAK N SHAKE???

          • Stek ‘n’ Shak*

          • Chicolombia

            You paying?

          • Hockward

            I’ll pay for you 365, 24/7

          • Chicolombia

            Deal.

        • MenacingCascoon

          I don’t remember you though? I guess I just remember important people

          • Sick burn bro.

          • Hockward

            BURN. GET REKT. I’LL GET THE BURN HEAL.

      • The Lavender Swirlix

        who the heck? ….

        • Ultron

          This crazy weirdo who stalked and trolled this site regularly

          • Sounds great. While I’ve been here since like HG/SS I don’t really know who that is though.

          • Ultron

            Hey, that’s when I started coming here too! He was in and out, they had to keep banning him but he’d come back with different accounts

          • I do think I kind of remember something about him but I wasn’t really big here during X/Y and my memory is kind of bad anyways.

          • Ultron

            Probably for the best…although it is sort of funny in hindsight

          • You say you were here since HG/SS though. Did you go to chat? Do you remember manaphylover and Zekrom and the mod… Josh or something I think?

          • Ultron

            I don’t think I started interacting on here till B/W. I had a Honchkrow and then Volcarona account

          • Well B/W was when me and Zekrom were active. I dunno when manaphylover was active… I think around that time. There was also this cheerleader who me and her bonded over a ugly fish fake leak and she was awesome but yeah… ><;

          • Ultron

            Sounds like some fun times hahaha

          • I suppose haha. Zekrom and manaphylover both became friends. The cheerleader to an extent but she became really busy. Then Zekrom got busy with college. Me and manaphylover still talk sometimes but she has a job and friends and a fiancee now and we talk less.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            was he the one that randomly just like freaked out one day on everyone and then got all his comments deleted and then was banned?

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            I don’t think so? He disappeared before ORAS were announced.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            yeah, I remember someone being like in between oras and xy and they were crazy

        • TheHipsterRowlet

          An user to used to troll a lot haha. He made this weird wiki about some creepypasta!spongebob. He then wanted to kill all of us. It was pretty scary imo 😛

          • Ultron

            Yeah it was fucked up

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        a pjn legend tbh. let not also forgot that user that made fake rumours everyday

        • Ultron

          I remember that!!

        • TheHipsterRowlet

          Or Jen’s three different accounts…

          • PercyEspeon

            OMG Jen I am done.
            She liked me, then hated me??, then I dunno what happened.

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            She liked you, but then she apparently told a certain user you were ugly. She was a trainwreck honestly.

          • PercyEspeon

            How can she say I was ugly when I don’t think she knows what I look like?? Like bruh.

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            Because she saw your twitter pic, Jamie 😛

          • PercyEspeon

            Oh ok.
            Well whatever, I may be ‘ugly’, but at least I have rocking hair, no one can deny that!

          • Ultron

            Is she the one who liked milotic a lot or something? There’s a few milotic people here so maybe I’m thinking of someone else.

          • PercyEspeon

            I think she liked Milotic. I can’t remember

          • Ultron

            There’s been a lot of people come and go over the years. But Ultron is always here….always watching…

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            omg do you remember percy with the dreads? everytime I saw your name at first I thought you were them, tbh I think they went by like heavy metal fairy the last time they were here

            they were pretty cool though 🙂

          • PercyEspeon

            Yeah, that was their name. I dunno what happened since I left temporarily before ORAS came out for various reasons and came back only a few months ago.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            oh lol, I bet no one remembers me because I changed my name around oras time :c lol

          • PercyEspeon

            I wish I could remember, but then again, I suck with names. I’m good with faces, but names I am done for.
            I have to repeat them multiple times in my head to get it to stick and there was one time someone introduced someone to me, I said hi, and 5 seconds later, I completely forgot the name. I was like ‘Welp….never speaking to them ever again I am such a terrible human byyeee’

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            awe, did you change your name at one point though too? I’m trying to remember everyone from that time but I don’t know if I remember you or if I just think I do because I see you so often now XD I used to be RaichuKeaton on here

          • PercyEspeon

            I’ve always been PercyEspeon from the start, although I did change my name to AlphaPercyEspeon in honor of ORAS
            And the name’s not coming to me, but I think it’s cause the my first month or two is very hazy to me

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            ok, I do remember the AlphaPercyEspeon actually

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            Bye @Heavy. He was a mess too. (Does anyone remember the infamous sock?)

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            THE SOCK BYEEEE

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            He was so gross asdjfhdjseik
            Or the watermelon thing. PJ was crazy during those times haha

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            I remember random sexual things he said… and his obsession for Mariah Carrie 😛 that was about it

          • Ultron

            I remember walking in on a terf war about pop singers during X&Y times.

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            i- i was involved in that

          • Ultron

            It was getting really heated

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            i think i started it when i mention that katy perry sucks and then mariah name was brought and oh my lol

          • Ultron

            Katy does honestly kinda suck at singing but she has some good songs haha. Tori Kelly and Kelly Clarkson are all I need though..Mariah sucks now too

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            Mariah is just plain rude

          • Ultron

            She got like one good song

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS YOUUUU (and pokemon sun and moon)

          • Ultron

            EXACTLY

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            right? like i wont lie she had songs that are bops. but she has never (to make it pokemon related) “evolve” as an artsit

          • Ultron

            Exactly…she’ll never top her teenage dream album in hits or lyrically.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            I’m sure you made it more interesting tbh, your gifs are the bomb XD

          • PercyEspeon

            I do remember that, I was like ‘What…is going on….like…what even started this again?’

          • Ultron

            O god…the fuckin sock. Shudders

          • Chicolombia

            Weirdest person I’ve ever talked to. He’s got a shady past too, but it’s not something to bring back up. I’m just glad he’s gone.

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            DFNDSJSJDKSJAASKJ JEN WAS AN ICON

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            Tag yourself. I’m Kiki from Texas or something.

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            “Hey is Jen here, my account got banned so im using this one”

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            Remember when she attacked herself?

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            right? dsnjdskjdsjk we were bffs tbh

          • lol When did all these “greats” happen? I should’ve been here. xD

  • Anon

    I just want corocoro or the official page to show a single gym leader just one would do as that would prove this whole thing fake(except for the sheets sadly)

  • The only thing I actually like about the rumor: The Dolphin and Snowman Pokemon.
    But I feel that was in another rumor. And so many people want a Dolphin Pokemon for Generation 7, it’s not even funny. It would fit Alola so well! And a Snowman Pokemon is something I’ve personally wanted for many years actually. Lol. There’s so many good Fakemon Snowman out there. xD

    • knightwolf09

      Doesn’t a dolphin only makes sense for this region?

      • It does.

      • It does. Alola’s climate is said to be warm. And it’s based on Hawaii after all. And people there ride on dolphins. At least from what I’ve seen and heard.

    • Ultron

      Sea Cucumber pokemon:

      • Kevin! We love you Kevin! If that’s actually true, I’m gonna nickname a male one Kevin. xD

        • Ultron

          That’s the only acceptable name! xP

  • Ultron

    There surprisingly don’t really appear to be a lot of surfing locations around the alola islands.

    • There’s two spots that appear in the northwest and southeast Islands. That’s about all I can spot.

      • Ultron

        There definitely won’t be surfing between islands either..I wonder if boats will be the only way of travel other than fly.

  • MenacingCascoon

    Lol No way to make people happy.
    “Please more Yearly releases”
    *later*
    “No more yearly releases!!!”
    *later*
    “Pokemon is just leaving us hanging I hate this they hate us!!”
    Now:
    “Please no more gyms they make all the games the same”
    *no gyms leaked*
    “This is an awful idea!!!”
    Before you want something think, would I complain about this later?

    • Ultron

      But complaining gives my feelings validation.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        right?

    • Anon

      Who asked for no gyms?

    • PercyEspeon

      I don’t even say any of these tho xD Or at least, I say them knowing I might end up liking them in the future when I play the actual game and I acknowledge it when I talk about it

    • You have to realize different groups of people want/wanted different things and it is unlikely that somebody who said they wanted something have backtracked and are now complaining about something they said they wanted. It is just that you can’t please everybody.

  • knightwolf09
    • TheHipsterRowlet

      The link sadly doesn’t work :/

        • MenacingCascoon

          This came after the chinese leaks though likely just copying what it sees from the leaks

          • Don’t tell me that. Tell @knightwolf09 that.

        • PercyEspeon

          False or not, I can get behind the Lillie detail as well as some of the other things in here.
          Like, it makes sense the villains are against nature, since Alola (and Hawaii) seems to represent nature. A battle of nature vs. technology I feel.

          • I like some ideas from both rumours but I also dislike things from both so eh.

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          I like this “leak” better…. except for the 90 pokemon thing… seems a bit low :c

          • GF has been on a roll lately of not giving very many mons. Better than XY but eh.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            yeah, I mean, they are releasing good pokemon, I just want like at least 110, but like, if there are 90, so be it, I am content as long as I get a good fairy (maybe a 3 stage one)

          • I want me a cool Psychic type. Bruxish is a stain on the good Psychic name.

          • PercyEspeon

            Sammmmeeeee
            I definitely can get behind more Psychic types

          • Aww yeah. *highfive*

          • PercyEspeon

            Would also like to see more Dragon types, but that’s just me. ^^

          • Dragons are also sweg.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            wait I just had a thought! 90 new pokemon is a lot if we also count new megas if they have a bunch of them, because in a way they are also new and that would be cool

          • I don’t count megas as new and it is increasingly likely they aren’t returning thankfully.

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            ENOUGH! ENOUGH! ENOUGH!
            Nah, I’m kidding. Honestly, I would love to see more Ghost and Ice Pokemon 😛

          • Ice types def need more love. Ghost too. I would love more of both.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            A cool psychic type would be very much welcome, not that I dislike bruxish but I doubt I will use it

          • I hate Bruxish sooooo much. ><; I want a cool one. 🙁

    • Shady

      didn’t work.

    • That “leak” is proven false but doesn’t really prove nor disprove the chinese rumour.

      • knightwolf09

        Was it? I don’t remember seeing this.

        • Actually you are right. I didn’t check the date. It hasn’t been proven false.

      • Anon

        Thank god its proven false! I mean 90 new pkmn? If so we have already seen 20% of them and thats no bueno

        • knightwolf09

          Didn’t they do the same for X and Y?

          • Anon

            Idk i cant remember xD but i dont want most of the pokedex spoiled before the game

        • Apparently it hasn’t been I didn’t check the date. it could be real. He said it would be revealed next week and I thought this was posted awhile back. However as Cascoon said this might just then be a reference to the chinese leak.

          • knightwolf09

            Next week is actually around the time corocoro comes out, so it is around news time.

          • He mentions a video though so… eh. This leak will be proven false next week. The chinese leak though… probably not. And just because this leak is fake doesn’t mean the chinese one is.

          • PercyEspeon

            Most of the time, they usually reveal CoroCoro stuff in videos as well. Plus a week away is the 15th (for US techinically)
            Either way, we’ll have to wait and see

          • Do they though? And do they do it the same time as Corocoro’s leaks? EIther way if nothing from this leak happens next week it is fake. The chinese one though… it may be real or if not it will probably take a long time to be disproven.

          • knightwolf09

            Kind of, depending on the news. I thibk they did it when mega evolution was revealed.

          • mmn…

    • Anon

      Wait make alola a tourism paradise? Wtf there are already two hotels visible on the map(the blue one we saw concept art from and the one with a golf course behind) and there are those slaking motels so this makes little sense

    • EarthenWarrior

      GROUND/FIGHTING GORRILLA

  • Hockward

    This place is hopping.
    I think that it would be cool if we could make our own gym, but I don’t like the idea of little to no gyms to start with. Perhaps a system of where you need to beat all the gym leaders on the island to become one on that island.

  • MenacingCascoon

    Anyway these leaks are iffy
    One side that I would like because its unique and you don’t even see 8 gyms on the map so it makes sense
    One side I disagree because how can you have access to elite 4 without badges? and So many people don’t pay attention to pokemon story as is and just go for gyms (Im one of those people)

  • Sadly, for the Starters, I think at this point, they’re real. No one can prove or disprove them fake and they appeared out of nowhere and it’s been a month. It would of been debunked by now but it hasn’t. When you look at the leaks and the designs, they’re based off of parts of Hawaiin culture. Rowlet’s final is based on an Archer and some kind of shape shifter being in Hawaiin legend that can take the form of an owl (I forgot the name but I remember it began with an O). Litten’s final evolution is based on fire dancers, which commonly appear in Hawaiin festivals. And Popplio’s final is a circus performer based off of a mermaid/dolphin (dolphins of which are in Hawaii). Someone would of had to do their homework and take a lot of time to make it, if it was fake and most leakers I see, it’s an obvious giveaway. Either a flaw can be pointed out or it can be found on Devianart.

  • I hope that this is not 100% true; I don’t want to be stuck with Tony the Tiger. Also, how is there no Gym Leaders or League when there are Gyms all over the map. That seriously confuses me, how woukd progress be made? At least we might get a Dolphin Pokemon…

    • We haven’t actually seen any gyms though have we? OT: Is that a Kamitani pic as your avvie?

      • I assumed the brown buildings were Gyms! Also, my Avatar is from 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim.

        • I assumed that too but it isn’t confirmed is it. And then yes your avvie is from Kamitani I thought it was Aegis Rim. <3

        • PercyEspeon

          THat’s what I thought too, considering I see a little symbol on them.
          Of course, it could be something else and I could be seeing things, but considering I saw the same type of building in many places and that little symbol, it’s definitely a gym imo

      • NintendoPlayer

        We have not really. We see two buildings that could be gyms, but even then it’s skeptical. I think they will go with chiefs or tribe leaders if there are no gyms.

  • There is some sense I suppose behind the concept of “Bond Abilities” from the fired European Employee Leak and that you fill up a meter to unleash a devastating attack. The Pokemon.com site said that you’ll “discover moves more powerful than any seen before”. And the European Employee Leak mentions a Gorilla Pokemon with a menacing look, which could be the Rugby Monkey in the Chinese Leaks…

    • That could also work for the “fifth move” bs that people bring up. But eh.

      • Yeah, it could because this image shows a menu where a fifth move by regular means would be impossible to access all the time (refresh if you don’t see the image).

    • Hmm. As long as it isn’t a broken concept, it sounds kinda cool.

      • Yep. I think it would be able to do work. I’d like it much better than that Synchro Evolution concept rumor going around.

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    I don’t trust it however those starter evos have grown on me. They just seem overly complicated, more so since GF has talked about straying from the recent complicated design path. We’ve. Also already had a wrestler so I don’t see why they’d use it twice. I’m fine with Rowlett and Popplio, but I just don’t like where Litten is going.

    • LItten def sucks man.

      • DefensiveBastiodon

        It doesn’t even look like a starter

        • It looks stupid. >.> Like it needs to be picked up by the scruff and dropped into Garbodor or Trubbish.

    • PercyEspeon

      Yeah, now that I look at them again, they are growing on me. Even Littens (although I am sad that it is bipedal and looks like a Fighting type) because it looks kind of cool in a way.

      • Litten I still hate. Rowlet is growing on me. And I like Popplio’s final. To me, it kinda works. Don’t kill me! *Shots fired*

        • PercyEspeon

          Nah, es cool. I like Popplio’s and Rowlet’s <3
          Litten is still something I have to get used to, for sure, cause it was way out of what I expected for it.

          • Me too. I hate Litten’s final so much. Another bipedal. After 20 years of Pokemon, you would think they’d change it up. Nope. They don’t.

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            spill that tea! enough of fire type bipedals

      • Litten better be a Fire/Dark Wrestler. I hope the leak was GameFreak messing with fans!

        • PercyEspeon

          It’s what I am hoping for too <3

        • LItten better get rid of the bipedal wrestler aspect*

    • thegreatcarbinkle
      • PercyEspeon

        Done. xD
        I love Zooptopia and not gonna lie, those tiger backup dancers are straight up amazing.

        • TheHipsterRowlet

          Are you a furry?

          • PercyEspeon

            Yep totally.
            My fursona is a Weedle.

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            omg why you joined the dark side pecy:(

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            Pft. She was always darksided! Know that.

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            i cant believe you just used a rhobh quote and i just posted a rhobh gif bye dskjsdkjds

          • PercyEspeon

            I’m joking. Usually when I was yep totally, I’m being sarcastic
            But es the Internet, sarcasm is hard to convey here

          • TheHipsterRowlet

            Let’s go to furrycon when we meet up xDDD :3 rawr

          • thegreatcarbinkle
          • TheHipsterRowlet

            im dying

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    Also, SEA CUCUMBER? KEVIN?!

  • Is the fired European Employee Leak a definite fake or does it still have yet to be proven false? It seems pretty legit to me. And it mentions a Gorilla which could be that Rugby Monkey in the Chinese leaks… Maybe the Ground/Fighting type Gorilla plays football? LOL. There is a Football team in Hong Kong with a monkey as their mascot which could explain why the Chinese Leaker related it to that.

    • It could be real all will be known about that leak after next week.

  • MenacingCascoon

    Sorry for so many comments but one last question
    What would your gym be?
    This is really hard question for an indecisive person like myself but I would choose Electric. I would be the 6 gym leader. My gym puzzle would have a be pitch black.The only light is lightening flowing around the whole gym and your goal is to move lightening rods to certain areas to generate enough electricity along the way to Light up the whole gym.
    The gym trainers pokemon will consist of charjabugs, Luxio, Pikachus and last one having galvantula.
    One you reach me I will have 4 pokemon and my team will consist of:
    Lanturn 33: Thunder Wave/Thunderbolt/Surf/ Ice Beam
    Rotom 33: Thunder Wave/Thunderbolt/Shadow Ball/ Confuse Ray
    Luxray 33: ThunderFang/ Ice Fang/ Crunch/ Fire Fang
    VikaVolt 35: ThunderBolt/ Bug Buzz/ energy Ball/ Thunder Wave
    If you beat me you achieve the Current Badge
    And I will give you tm for thunderbolt

    • You could never comment too much!
      I’d have a Water-Type Gym; which would be the 8th Leader (fuck Marlon).
      Lv. 50: Starmie
      Lv. 52: Clawitzer
      Lv. 53: Walrein
      Lv. 52: Sharpedo
      Lv. 54: Vaporeon
      Lv. 56: Mega Gyarados

    • TheHipsterRowlet

      Hm… That’s a good question haha. I’d have a grass gym! My gym puzzle would be a hedge maze.
      Team : Skiploom, Roselia and Leafeon
      And I would give the TM for Synthesis.

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      Mine would be an old run down cathedral yet still beautiful and full of white marble on the inside with purple pools of liquid under the cracks in the floor that you would have to walk around to get to me and a bit of a haunting puzzle to it as things would randomly move as it seems on their own and occasionally block or open up a new path, and I would have:
      Slurpluff, Whimsicott, Aromatisse and Clefable as my pokemon, yet half the trainers in the gym would have ghost type (if you went the wrong path) and the others would have fairies (if you went the right path)

      And if there was a rematch I would have the same team plus M Altaria and a White Florges

    • Haxford

      I’d like to be an 8th Dragon Gym Leader (I don’t care I want this).
      Drampa (NRM/DGN)
      Garchomp (DGN/GND)
      Hydreigon (DRK/DGN)
      Kingdra (WTR/DGN)
      Dragalge (PSN/DGN)
      Mega Haxorus (DGN/STL)

      • Gikie

        Mega Hax that’s Dragon/Steel oh yeah!

      • LittenItUp

        Florges says bye felicia

    • Ryan Horlock

      Bug-Type Gym, which would be the 7th Gym in the region (Because surprise!)
      My team would consist of:
      Scizor
      Vikavolt
      Volcarona
      Armaldo
      Cutiefly’s evolution

      Anyone victorious would receive the Pest Badge and the TM for Bug Buzz

    • The Aqua Flygon

      I am a 5 gym Water Gym their would large pools of water and Fountains along the edges their would be Tentacool inspired Booey’s to make it a maze
      My team consist of:
      Seadra
      Tentacruel
      Popplio’s second evolution

      My rematch would have (if leaks are true)
      Omastar
      Tentacruel
      Bruxish
      Bibarel
      Kingdra
      Entermaid
      Mega Samurott

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    also when it comes to the final evo, i wont make a final opinion until i see their 3D model. The drawing make all of them look iffy and not that great imo.

    • I like Rowlet and Poppilo’s evolutions. I need some therapy with Litten’s.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        popplio is the one the looks the most iffy to me. there something about the midlower body that doesnt seem right. she looks fat lol

      • I’ll never eat cereal again. Oh wait. I never did like cereal. :p

        • The worst part is that I love Frosted Flakes!

          • Litten’s final evolution: THEY’RE GREAT! Just like me! Oh wait, I was designed horribly! Get me off the screen!

  • I guess another positive thing out of the leak if it’s true I suppose, is maybe you can finally make your own Dark type Gym.

  • I just can’t find many positives at the moment. But Percy did make me have an open mind. And I forgot to say thank you by the way. I would never quit such a great series that is Pokemon. <3

    • I might quit if things keep getting worse.

      • Same. But for now, I’ll remain open. Game Freak is a good company. They haven’t let me down yet. It was a close call with X and Y and was almost going to quit with Mega Evolutions and considering quitting the day they introduced them. But since have learned to accept them.

        • I hate Megas and if this rumour ends up true I am just… no.

          • Suit yourself. If the Gyms thing is really stupid though, I may join you. This is honestly the scariest development/leak yet. As soon as I saw “No traditional Gyms or League”, I swear I stopped pumping blood to my heart for a second.

          • I will still get SM but like… Gen 8 or whatever will be like… you better wow me GF.

          • Yeah. I’ll get it too. Besides, I already got my pre-orders in. If this is to be my last games and S/M fails, then it might as well be on the 20th Anniversary. But I have some ounce of hope left. That: A) Leak is fake. B.) If it’s real, they’ll actually do a good job with the concept. Whatever the outcome, I’m anxious as a Zigzagoon to find out.

          • All games and gaming is moving away from what I want so eh it’d just be one more thing. P5 is looking absolutely amazing, but who is to say P6 in a couple years will not be terrible.

      • temporario23

        I was agreeing with both of your comments until you guys said you hate Megas. Mega Evolution is the best thing they have ever introduced in the games. Period. Sincerely, you guys should just quit.

        • Mega evolution is worst thing ever. Period.

    • PercyEspeon

      No problem, es fine. :3 I just be me :3

  • Shady

    The painful truth about GO http://9gag.com/gag/aVeDRzP?ref=fbp

    • First guy sends his pic to a female. “Do you like my d.”

    • Gikie

      Closest gym to my house is a railroad sign….with no railroads

  • This rumor is really spotty. If they just predicated a Fire/Poison Type; without naming the ability and species of animal; we’ve done it as well on the Jungle. Hell, someone predicated the Corrosion ability on this site. If that is the case, then I believe this is rumor to be 25% right.

    • That is indeed all they did and a lot of the other stuff is either fake sounding or other stuff people have said before. Doesn’t mean the leak won’t be real and knowing GF it probably will be right because they don’t know what the fanbase wants.

    • Shady

      ur avatar is beautiful ……that’s u Affar right?

      • Yup it’s me! I just changed my display name! Also, thanks!

    • Yeah, anyone could of guessed. And everyone pretty much knows about the Starter Concept Sheets that can’t be proven fake. They were mentioned in both the Chinese leak and European Employee leak. To me, I believe the European leak more. But the guy kinda sounds like an attention grabber.

    • mafuyu

      I am a Chinese, I have read The rumor. In fact, he said that Fire/Poison lizard, but I don’t believe this rumor, although it is very interesting.

  • Something just isn’t quite right about this leak still. Hopefully CoroCoro can clear it up and if they show a Gym Leader, it’ll disprove that and my paranoia and horrors can move on. This is honestly the scariest development/leak yet. As soon as I saw the first line “No traditional Gyms or League”, I swear I stopped pumping blood to my heart for a second. But if it is true, I’ll try to be open.

    • I really want my traditional Gyms! I’m hooked up to an IV right now. These are the worst rumors I’ve ever seen!

      • Agreed. I’m literally on my deathbed here. I’m so nervous right now, I’m zigging and zagging like a Zigzagoon.

      • The Aqua Flygon

        How I see it
        Gyms We need them they are the center of the games we Don’t need an XY where people could care less about boring 5. Minute talks

        Starters Hmm they are growing on me but I would rather they not be real

        Mashadow a dinosaur as I heared no just no

        Let’s see a Dolphin would be nice and snowman but really a Freakin’ Rugby Monkey come on GF You are better than that
        And a sea cucumber why

        Mega Ideas I heard No mega Kalos starters no only the Butterfree sounded good

        Bondage okay that sounds interesting

        And Evil team leader is Ruch guy no it Haltman from Kirby reincarnated noooooo!

        So yeah hopefully fake

  • Shady

    I remember tiger character from my childhood called Bolavan this guy is playing in the circus and he decide to run out and blue little mouse with bunny ears helped him to did that.
    unfortunately I can’t find out this on the internet.

  • I am okay with this except this No Gyms concept. What would be the long running goal, the story would really need some bigger twitches .

    Would be okay with the starter evos, not overly happy with Siren but we can’t fight the moonlight.

  • Anyone still up? I can’t go to sleep because of the horrors of these leaks. I just wish it was all a bad dream and not reality. I’m also afraid that if I do go to bed, we could get more bad news/developments. I feel like a Pokemon is using Torment on me.

    • Take your Ritalin.

      Dude, calm down. It’s not the end of the world if the Pokemon formula is changed. It might revitalize the series, in fact.

    • Gikie

      Chill, and remember, it’s still a children’s game.

  • I’m going to try to get some sleep. Please, Arceus, pretty please, let these leaks be fake! I’m on life support right now with this whole “No Gyms and League in Alola. You create your own.” point.

  • Shady
    • The dog and bunny thing look cute. That tiger though needs to gtfo. The bird is… ok I guess. I would love a game based on these characters without the tiger… not connected to Pokemon.

      • Shady

        I find him cool…….at least he has a strong character.

  • ElectivireMan

    can anyone translate what it says about 7/16 with all the new Pokemon on the main Japanese Pokemon page?

  • Shady

    In this pic Perfect Zygarde have something like a hump on its back ….but they change that in 3d game model. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/036/840/1ae.jpg

    • Haxford

      That’s just where its wings are supposed to be, but they’re not in the pic to show what the back looks like. It’s a reference pic for artists.

      • Shady

        I know that look at game 3d model back it’s very difference (it’s flat).

  • Desdar300

    As Long as Litten isn’t part fighting I’ll be happy. Also isn’t it odd that the leak doesn’t really mention the Special Moves?

  • Haxford

    Fire/Poison lizard: everyone can just blurt out typings and animals.
    No Gyms: of course there will be Gyms.
    Starter Evos: the leak was posted after the leaks.
    Stones: extremely vague.
    New Pokémon: random.
    Rockruff evo: look at the site, of course it will be a werewolf.
    Marshadow: again, everyone can blurt out something like that.

    Sounds fake to me.

    • The Aqua Flygon

      Wait but Salandit was already revealed and I wish those idiots who keep reavealing every thing would shut up let us master Patience and learn Gradually
      I still think they are fake

  • Josh Omega

    I personally dont see these being real but if by chance they were would pick rowlet or litten for sure. all we can is wait and see if coro coro reveals a gym leader or something soon.

  • OG Bulba

    This isn’t meant for pokejungle or other good sites cause I use this as away to talk about what I love which is Pokemon that being said: Damn with this gen it’s driving me crazy with ppl and their out of this world speculations I don’t mind ppl trying to predict off what the games are gonna hold but now all I hear is of what they want and it’s getting worst and worst Ive been playing since RB and started going on sites on gen 4 and it wasn’t as bad as it is now everybody just keeps repeating the same things for weeks on end wether its poketubers or articles and I’m starting to hate that someone comes out with some stupid “leaks” and everyone wants to believe them remember in xy when the list of Pokemon came out and everybody believe and of it was true

    • Haxford

      These leaks aren’t posted here because we believe them, but they give us a lot of time to speculate and discuss with each other

      • OG Bulba

        I understand that I’m not saying about us it was more of a rant towards others you know venting sorry I should of been more clear I know we do speculate even me but I’m one of those who doesn’t believe in leaks until they are proven real but lately I’ve just seen ppl right out tell me they’re real like that weird owl that leak on 2chan ppl even bet money saying it was real and to me I just thought it was crazy even the bet still going on cause we haven’t seen the second stages so that’s what we’re waiting on lol

  • Tev-Da-Trainer

    I can’t see a main series Pokemon game without Gyms and a league, it’s Pokemon’s formula.

  • Desdar300

    Just a head up you can still find these images using Bing

    • Gikie

      I just saved the one here lol

  • Dicie

    Being as traditional Gyms are at the core of this series, I would personally hate to see them go. However, creating our own Gyms would be a fantastic idea, and could utilize a similar sharing system as Super Secret Bases from ORAS. As for the rest of the rumors… I personally don’t believe them, but the final evolutions for the starters would be fantastic if they are real.

  • EarthenWarrior

    http://67.media.tumblr.com/bcc12df6a3fa497f6272564708f470d8/tumblr_o9xokxPkhZ1rhydo8o1_1280.png
    I don’t like the names or their typing
    Robingroot Panthster Fire/Dark and Entermaid Water/Fairy
    But this guy is dangling a menacing Ground/Fighting Georilla……..I…I don’t know if my heart can take another breaking not after last time

    • Zoruart

      … he just spoiled the plot of the game

    • Zoruart

      Where did you get this from?

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      isn’t this the same post as last night? or is it different and I’m missing something? 😛

    • Vlad

      Why do people thing that litten is/will become a panther?? It’s a tiger. All fire types thus far have been based on the animals of the Chinese zodiac.

  • nb97

    God please no. I’d take anything just please, PLEASE give Popplio a different final evolution. This Gym thing seems unlikely and even if it’s true, making the trainers act as Gym Leaders would probably require you to beat them so it’s not that different. But I doubt it will happen. Making Rockruff into a werewolf seems pointless too when it could be a simple wolf. According to the official site it has only one evolution (well, from the wording of the text at least) and the base form doesn’t even look close to a werewolf. With a middle stage it would be possible but I don’t see it changing so drastically just like that. This thing about Marshadow might be true but then again, unique types aren’t that rare especially in this generation where we already got Cutiefly and Salandit. I just hope that these and the pic that Earthen posted a few minutes ago are fake…

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      Popplios final is the best one imo, lol

  • Zoruart

    If anyone wants here’s the 4chan page on the supposed leaks from the fired Sun and Moon Translator: http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/26998711/leaks

    Read the comments as well because he adds a few more information like drawings and the names/designs of the other three Alola guardians

    • Haxford

      It mentions a Ground/Fighting Gorilla.
      I’m looking at you Earthen.
      EDIT: I see you already posted that.

    • The Aqua Flygon

      This could be true but I’ll wait and find out myself but it’s interesting

    • Mega Greninja? :< :< :< :< oh no

      • The Aqua Flygon

        Greninja mega that’s the biggest bull crap of this whole falseness he has Ash Greninja stop Praising Pokemon Nintendo

    • Smurphy

      3 reasons why this is all completely fake.

      1. Copybara having a “new ability” that copies the opponents ability? Literally just Trace, not a new ability.

      2. The starter final evo names are absolutely horendous.

      3. Magearna is a Mythical and will not have anything to do with the plot, like every Mythical before it.

      • Smurphy

        Oh, and also posts like this show up on 4chan several times a day, and none of them are ever real.

      • Nickerton

        Dude Solgaleo and Lunala have “new” abilities but those are just copies of old abilities. js

        • Smurphy

          A leaker wouldn’t treat it as new though. A leaker would say it has a “new” ability that’s basically just Trace.

      • Hockward

        What is the copy ability was kind of like Smeargle’s sketch? It’s permanent. It could be interesting, but also a pain to get the correct ability that you want.

        • Smurphy

          That would be kinda interesting. A huge pain in the ass, but interesting.

      • 2 has no bearing on fakeness the designs suck esp. Litten’s so whatever. You do have a point with 3 though.

  • Zoruart

    Everyone is tweeting those final evolution leaks to Junichi Masuda. I want to see if he’ll respond and shut them down as fakes, or just ignore them

    • nb97

      Where can I check the tweets adressed to him? I’m looking at his twitter but I can only see his tweets.

    • I doubt he will say anything.

  • Haxford

    Omg I just found this and I know it’s fake but GOD THIS LOOKS SO COOL
    http://i.4cdn.org/vp/1467879257680.png

    • belmad

      Tbh, it looks better than the hideous thing in article.

      • Shady

        Nope The hideous one far better.

      • Whaaaat? You don’t like Tony the Tiger feat. Fire Crotch?

        • Gikie

          But it’s on its waste…like a belt…. :(:

    • The Aqua Flygon

      This actually would make more sense based on detailed themes and examples like Solgaleo with alchemy, Saladit mixing chemicals to create fire so this fits the bill I personally like it. It grew on me already

    • Looks much better. But fans create better designs all the time because fans actually know what fans want unlike GF who don’t give a flying fuck what fans want.

    • shmuga9

      Too bad (albeit a bit bland), it would fit in with the circus motif that Popplio has.

      Who knows, maybe they ARE going for a circus theme and we just can’t see it yet. They did go with a theme last time with RPG classes (ninja/thief, knight/paladin, mage).

  • If this is true, then this is the first generation where I dislike all three starters. At least all the other Pokemon look cool.

    • Shady

      every body said that when Greninja came out as a fake one but now he is the most popular one , so there’s a chance to these grow on u.

      • These have been “leaked” for about a month and I still don’t like any of em.

        • Shady

          when they officially reveal u will.

          • I highly doubt that.

          • Shady

            I still not sure if these real or not but they gave me strange feeling that normal fakemon didn’t.

          • Oh, I’m not saying that these aren’t well done. I’m just saying that I personally dislike them. For all we know they could be real.

      • I’ll always hate the fuck over they did to Litten if real.

    • Except Bruxish and Charjabug.

    • temporario23

      Agreed. This might be the first time I won’t use a starter in my playthrough team.

  • Nickerton

    I love all the rumors except those damn final evos! From gen 1-4, they kept it simple with the finals. They just evolved into baddass animals. Gen 5 was the merge, where they were slightly becoming gimmicky, and gen 6 took the cake with going way too gimmicky with the themes. Gen 7 better not follow gen 6 with that shit!

    • Zoruart

      Completely agree. Every final evo since Gen 4 was literally just a bigger more intimidating version of the starters – nothing too complex. But gen 6 and gen 7 (the concept art) feel really unnatural, like they’re wearing clothes or something

    • Ultron

      Gen 5 and 6 starters sucked. Except serperior

  • Ithsme

    Why does everyone hate the idea of creating a league so much? While I still want there to be some challenge, we need some kind of change to the formula of eventually it’ll get stale. Changing the formula up a bit is something I think we need, but maybe not in this way.

    • Green

      I’m fine with that part. It’s the rest of it like the starters.

  • DemonKingAsura

    Wrestler Litten Reminds me of King from Tekken.

    Me Like, and he seems like a Heel wrestler, so I say he’s probably Fire Dark.

  • Gikie

    Whatevs

  • Green

    I find all of this hard to believe

    • The Aqua Flygon

      Your not the only one

  • Green

    So wait. I can only have 250 Pokémon in Pokémon GO?

    • The Aqua Flygon

      Just transfer duplicates of your best to professor to get candy to make them stronger that’s the fastest way to evolution

    • Hockward

      Yes and no. You can only have 250 Pokemon stored at a time. You can transfer duplicates in order to make room. However, for 200 Pokecoins, you can get +50 storage. This can be done by using real money to pay for them, or being part of a local gym and earning coins through defending.

      • Green

        Thanks.

  • EarthenWarrior

    I don’t know what to believe in anymore

    • Nickerton

      Believe in the Lord of Light

      • EarthenWarrior

        ……..

      • Ultron

        For the night is dark and full of terrors

  • Vlad

    I just feel like they put in a lot of work to make these starters truly appealing and I don’t think they would tarnish that by making their final evolutions so decisive

    • Nickerton
      • EarthenWarrior

        Gross all of them are gross

        • Nickerton

          like your personality c:

          • EarthenWarrior

            They look like what the people WANT it to be, not what it WILL be

          • Because GF is stupid.

        • Ultron

          That’s only cause precious popplio isnt the bulky masculine tank that you want.

      • Poketard101

        These ones would have been totally AMAZING if they were real. XD

        But the ones that they are talking about in this article are amazing too, (though I still don’t really Littens evo.) so I can tolerate them as well. 😀

      • Ultron

        Love love loooooooveeeee

      • Rowlet looks weird but not bad and the other two look great. These have been confirmed fake though.

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        I actually hate these actually, I only like litten’s.

        • Only one that matters son. Seriously though.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I always choose the grass type starter.

          • Right I wasn’t being serious. I just want my poor Litten to not get screwed. 🙁

  • EarthenWarrior

    I want Georilla to be real but what if they turn out to be fake
    They dangle the thing I truly want and they just taunt me with it….

    It would be a massive hulking primate with a dusty yellow and brown coat, it would sporting a hulking upper body with tons of visual muscle mass with its knuckles holding itself up and its feet much smaller in comparison, it’s head would consist of a thick underbite with two fangs points upward, it would also have a thick hardened layer of skin in the shape of a rugby helmet and two glaring eyes

    Flying into rages, Georilla decks opponents into submission with forceful tackles, it pounds the ground beneath it to rile itself up

  • This leaks just keep getting worse and worse. So, supposedly there are claims the originator of the Chinese rumors have been sent takedown requests. God. This can’t be happening. This leak could be the end of Pokemon for me.

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      on the plus side for you, if the new chinese leaks are real then that means there are still gyms eh 😉

  • Hockward

    I actually really like the Rowlet final evolution. Seems like a pretty cool concept.
    I would prefer Litten to say on all fours, but can stay as turning into a panther.
    I’m really curious as to how Popplio will actually end up. I’m okay with the “leaked evolution”, but not the biggest fan of it.

    • Ultron

      Litleo or litten? xD

      • Hockward

        *WHOOOOOOOOOOOOSH*
        Can you tell I just woke up? xD

        • Ultron

          Perhaps a little! Their names are easy to mix up though. Both 6 letters, both start with L, and both are fire kittens xP

  • Galemcaedus

    Mashadow has to be the 3rd legendary, unless my hunch turns out true and Zygarde is Alola’s 3rd legendary.

    • Gikie

      I hope it is! The name just screams “complete the trifecta!”

      • Galemcaedus

        But it apparently has a unique type combo, so its not Fire/Dark, which would make it super effective against both Solgaleo and Lunala.

  • Ultron

    Well I guess we’ll probably know if these final evolutions are real or not once we see the middle stages in a month or two.

  • The Aqua Flygon

    In Pokemon Go I just went out to catch Pokemon for the first time to hunt a Squirtle Down and I got it and a Zubat on the way two new for the price of one!!!

  • Well, I’m going to assume this all real at this point. No point being paranoid over it. Especially the fired European Employee Leak. Something just seems right about that one. Bond Abilities seem very legit as a concept and something Pokemon would do. While I’m not sure about the Chinese leak, it’s probably because it was translated from someone. Both have two common links: The Starter Finals and the Monkey. Though for the Chinese leak, they didn’t give the monkey a name at all. But that was how they did for Salandit too. And monkeys and gorillas are commonly confused or used interchangebly to describe primate like creatures. And I can see a Ground/Fighting type Gorilla holding a football as a concept.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Was there another leak? Mind linking to it? I think I missed that.

      • Ultron

        Same, I think I missed something…

      • I’m sorry but I don’t have the link. It was before Salandit was revealed. Someone in Chinese said a Fire/Poison type lizard would be revealed. And this here is the same guy.

      • The Lavender Swirlix

        http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/26998711/leaks

        ^this is what everyone is talking about

        • Galemcaedus

          Its very detailed. At this point I’m inclined to believe it.

          • I saw the new info the fired Employee posted earlier. It’s just to hard to deny. Oh and the by the way, the link isn’t working out for me. It says the “thread is archived”.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Scroll down. Nobody can post, but you should be able to see the old posts

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            scroll down

          • Oh, okay. Thanks! 🙂

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Yeah and considering he gives a specific time for a new video to come out (which makes sense with CoroCoro coming out next week) I think maybe this is all real. I guess we’ll find out next week lol

          • Galemcaedus

            Looks like Earthen is getting his Ground/Fighting xD

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            cant wait to stomp out its fighting spirit with my fairies 😉
            lol

          • EarthenWarrior

            It’s all I ever wanted
            But if I am denied this I will be extremely upset

      • There’s also another guy. A supposed fire European employee, who is leaking info as well. He’s on 4chan/2ch or one of those forums.

    • Ultron

      A gorilla rugby player sounds dumb af. The typing would be cool….

      • Agreed. Typing would be cool. I just don’t get how people can confuse monkeys with gorillas or use the term interchangebly though. Monkeys have tails. Gorillas don’t and are bigger. Lol.

        • Ultron

          Exactly. Very distinct difference

  • Galemcaedus

    Dolphin <3
    Water/Fairy maybe? Bruxish's Water/Psychic, you think they'll give us another W/P?

    • Ultron

      I think so, it fits in well. Or they could just do pure water and be lame..

  • jk

    I still don’t think those evolutions are for real. They are way too bizarre and amateurish.

  • jk

    In every generation everybody “predicts” all sorts of things, especially things that haven’t happened yet (like a poison/fire typing). That doesn’t mean it’s based on smt solid or official, people. Relax.

  • Ultron

    Soul bond? So bondage with our pokemon? S&M is perhaps not the best game to introduce a bondage feature if you get what I’m saying. -_- Honestly it just sounds like a stupid combo move feature this person lifted from other popular fighting games….I’m gonna have to go with fake.

  • jk

    The thing is: komodo dragons have really poisonous saliva, so a fire/poison type was bound to be one of those, instead of a monkey, rabbit or pig, for instance. No big deal, guys.

    • EarthenWarrior

      I said that the day it came out
      Fat Komodo dragon with oozing back pores that secret mucus bubbles filled with flammable gasses
      It shakes off the ooze and coats the opponent then lets off a flame to ignite the gasses causing explosions

  • The Lavender Swirlix

    Pokemon Go still isn’t available in canada yet :C however people have found ways around that and still managed to find a way to download and play it…. now those people are being banned from the game completely. So like, I guess its gunna still be a waiting game T_T

    I’m also pretty sure its not out yet in the UK

  • Galemcaedus

    So this supposed Soul Bond Gauge is like an enhanced version of Amie maybe?

    • No. It’s kinda like Mega Evolution but kinda not, with a meter and when the meter is supposedly full, you get to unleash an “ultimate move”. You find the crystals for your bracelet around Alola supposedly. Pokemon.com says you’ll discover “moves more powerful than any seen before” to further back up these rumors from the fired European Employee.

  • Galemcaedus

    Supposed names and typings of the remaining 3 island guardians:
    Tapu Hee, Water/Fairy and can create rain
    Tapu Lono Grass/Fairy and can create grassy terrain
    Tapu Lele Fairy/Flying and creates misty terrain

    • Seems very legit to be quite honest. Though I would think they would create a new Terrain move for Tapu Hee, such as Rainy Terrain. xD

      • Galemcaedus

        Magearna is also not a Alola pokemon apparently, it was found by the main villain in another region and he/they will use it (probably the Soul Heart thing) to fuse the 4 island guardians together.

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      thats the only thing I question about this whole leak, but only really a little, because their names all seem so generic but I suppose since Tapu means like holy or a sort of protector it makes sense

      • Galemcaedus

        It all depends on their designs really. Tapu Koko is basically a rooster. I dont know what those other names mean, but I’m assuming they will be based on basic animals if I’m going by Tapu Koko.

        • belmad

          Lono and Lele are the literal names of the god and goddess. While Koko is something that imitating the sound of chicken.

    • Also, the leaker says Tapu Lono looks like the XY Strange Souvenir when it has it’s true face on to look like a mask like Tapu Koko. I would think it would be Fire/Fairy to be honest, because the Strange Souvenir kinda looks like a tiki to me, but that’s just my take on it. xD

      • The Lavender Swirlix

        that would be cool

    • belmad

      Ok, Lono is grass but why Lele is flying? Lele is the goddess of fire volcano and such things.

      And those names are a bit strange. Tapu Lono is just basically “Holy Lono” and it’s too literal as there is a god named Lono. Same with Lele. It’s like having a pokemon named “Holy Zeus”.

  • Green
  • Galemcaedus

    Mega Chandelure, Mega Butterfree and Mega Executor?

    • Mega Butterfree seems like a perfect and long awaited counterpart to Mega Beedrill. But I just can’t see how Mega Exeggutor will work.

      • Hockward

        This ^
        Sure, people used it from time to time, but it seems pretty out of place. I would think if they would add more Gen 1 megas, that would look towards the likes of Tauros

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      tbh I really hope Lilligant gets a mega and becomes grass/fairy but like, I doubt it’ll happen :/

      • The Aqua Flygon

        I want the Mega Raticate and it be Normal/Dark

        • Galemcaedus

          Sounds strangely satisfying lol. Raticate is just a basic rat, but a Mega would make it very interesting.

        • EarthenWarrior

          Mega Persain would be a better Normal/Dark Type

          • The Aqua Flygon

            Yeah but if Raticate Mega evolved it needs another type being a sewer Rat fits more than being Normal

    • jk

      I’d like mega tentacruel and a regular evo for starmie.

  • Pokemon Sun and Moon footage to be aired on July 17th! Check Serebii! 😮

    • TheNintendoChip

      But it’s Pokenchi. Probably going to show the rest of the newly revealed Pokemon, else it’ll be whatever (might) be in CoroCoro

      • But this credibility to the European Employee Rumors! Shit!

        • Not really. Not anymore than Corocoro releasing next week.

        • TheNintendoChip

          No, it doesn’t if you take the words literally. The “leaker” said a trailer will air “next week” as of July 06. That means the week of July 10-16. I know timezones are a thing, but the 17th falls outside that range.

          • 11-17 is next week.

          • TheNintendoChip

            Have I been taught this wrong the entire time? I was always taught the week starts on Sun., ends on Sat. (even though that contradicts the term weekend).
            Welp that’s fantastic ;~;

          • I dunno. Maybe it is a cultural thing? I mean calendars DO have Sun at the beginning.

        • Galemcaedus

          CoroCoro will not reveal so much information, assuming all this stuff on 4chan is legit. Maybe they will reveal that beaver and gorilla and the evil team’s name but thats it.

  • Galemcaedus

    I’m reading something about a pseudo-legendary Dragon/Rock, but I cant figure out if its Mashadow (probably not judging by the name)

    • Nickerton

      mashadow sounds dark/fairy

  • Galemcaedus

    Lodeing (Electric/Steel)
    Kompile (Electric/Ground)
    754 Syruby – Fairy/Bug (Cutiefly evo maybe?)
    755 Canby – Fairy/Bug
    756 Maccut – Bug
    757 Moscarb – Bug/Dark
    758 Ashtiki – Grass/Fire
    759 Tikindlog Grass/Fire
    761 (760 isnt shown) Mirreon – Steel
    762 Veneon – Poison
    763 Khanby – Normal
    765 Mawly – Steel
    766 Mandibite – Steel/Dark
    805 Finka – Water (pseudo)
    806 Dorsel – Water/Psychic
    807 Dolphic – Water/Psychic
    808 Lylaunt – Water (pseudo)
    809 Lygoon – Water/Ghost
    810 Lyghoul – Water/Ghost

    • Nickerton

      Where’d you get this, guy? o.o

    • The entire game is ruined! Thanks fired European employee!

    • TheNintendoChip

      I’m not sure if we’re looking at the same thread (https://yuki.la/vp/26523876), but it says that 754 and 755 are version exclusives (S and M, respectively). It seems odd that a base pokemon (Cutiefly) would evolve differently depending on the game version.

      • Galemcaedus

        The Dorsel and Lylaunt family look like version exclusives too. Lylaunt exclusive to Moon and Dorsel to Sun.

    • belmad

      So Veneon might be poison Eevee?

      • Galemcaedus

        Has to be yes.

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          and mirreon the steel type evo

          • Galemcaedus

            We got 2 Eeveelutions in gen 5, 1 in gen 6 so if we get another 2 in gen 7 that’d be nice. Personally I hardly use Eeveelutions, but I do like their designs in general.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            you mean two in gen 4?

          • Galemcaedus

            Was it gen 4? Thought Glaceon and Leafeon were introduced in gen 5. Like I said, I never use them lol.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            naw, they were introduced in Sinnoh, there were no evolutions in gen 5 (unova)

    • This doesn’t look to be related to the fired European Employee at all. I’m saying this is a separate leak and fake unless proven otherwise.

      • TheNintendoChip

        It is separate, this is from May 30th

        • Oh great. Spoiler central here. I can’t believe we’re getting legit leaks this early. Thanks fired European employee!

          • TheNintendoChip

            I meant to say it’s separate, I edited my previous post to avoid confusion.

          • Oh, okay, thanks. Sorry about my confusion and rage.

          • Galemcaedus

            Its the downside of internet, but if these leaks are true, it has to be the biggest leak ever in the history of Pkmn games.

      • Galemcaedus

        I’m not saying this is legit. But it was posted on the same page so. Just copying what I see.

    • Richard Haslam

      Oh! Wait a minuite! Dorsel? Copybara? You don’t suppose they are anyway these do you?

      http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/sun-moon-fakes2.jpg

      And if so, then woudn’t the grass owl leak we’ve seen also before be Rowlet’s mid evolution before becoming Robinroot?

      http://pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/sun-moon-fakes3.jpg

  • This can’t be happenning. Now, in my eyes, I think that we have official confirmation of the leaks from the fired European employee being 100% real! CoroCoro will likely show what he said. Though the Normal/Water Beaver is VERY suspicious considering that we already have one in Bibarel. The way he describes it is also very suspicious.

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      i doubt its a beaver its probs a capybara, and the guy just didn’t know what a capybara was

      • Yeah. What is a capybara? I’ll have to look it up. Lol.

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          they are the largest rodent in the world, they are pretty well known in canada even though they live in south america

          • Oh, okay. Thanks! I always love to look up what new Pokemon are based off of. It’s so cool to learn about certain animals and myths in the world. 🙂

        • Galemcaedus

          Copybara is listed as a Water/Normal beaver

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            capybaras look a heck of a lot like beavers so, there could have been some confusion

  • shmuga9
  • Galemcaedus

    Megas for the Kalos starters? It would certainly explain AG to an extent.

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      but Johto starters :C lol

      • Nickerton

        Yeah I need my mega mega nium 😀

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          heck ya

        • EarthenWarrior

          Screw that those Pokemon are unsalvageable
          And I swear if they end up Grass/Fairy Fire/Ground and Water/Dragon I’m going to be annoyed

          • Nickerton

            Ian pls shut up. Chicorita was my first ever pokemon

          • EarthenWarrior

            It is so bad

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            johto starters were the best starters (╹◡╹)凸

          • Green

            Shut up. That Pokémon got me through some tough times (in Pokémon)

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            lol what else could they be? 😛 aside from feralagator of course who could also become water/fighting or water/ice or even water/dark

          • EarthenWarrior

            Pure Grass and Pure Fire
            And the whole reptilian Staters being dragons is getting repetitive

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            well I never said it would be a dragon, and never once thought it would become one myself, it doesn’t really fit imo, but meganuim becoming grass/fairy makes so much sense so blah

          • EarthenWarrior

            It doesn’t

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            it doesn’t make sense for feralagator to become part dragon? oh I know. Because you couldnt possibly be saying a fairy typing doesn’t work on meganium right >: )

          • Galemcaedus

            Meganium is gobshite, doesnt deserve something as beautiful as Fairy.

          • EarthenWarrior

            I said it didn’t makes sense
            I was stating that I don’t want to see all Reptilian Starters be part dragon
            So far char and Sceptile got the treatment and I really just don’t want it to be repetitive

            As for Meganuim it has very little in common with fairies

  • Galemcaedus

    Evil team’s name is thought to be Team Hermes, who seek to use the legendaries for alchemic rituals to gain riches and power.

    • Something about that just seems off. Considering GX’s theory about Alchemy is widely known in the community.

      • Galemcaedus

        GamexPlain suggested the evil team might use alchemy to gain world domination, so this theory isnt far off tbh.

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      so the the evil team leader will be a model wearing a 20k birkini hermes tote and a 5k gold/crocodile leather hermes belt

  • The Lavender Swirlix

    pokenchi is apparently going to have sun/moon footage on july 17th according to serebii

    • Nickerton

      Thank you JOHN

      • The Lavender Swirlix

        excuse me Nick -_- ill fight you

        • Nickerton

          Ooo :^)

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            (╯◕_◕)╯

    • Yep. Likely will cover exactly what the fired European Employee said they’re gonna show on the official channel, lending more credibility.

      • Not likely. Pokenchi just shows bullshit. If the employee were real whatever it is he said was coming would be shown earlier in the week.

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          no one expects pokenchi to show new footage, more like, new footage will be shown by another source and pokenchi will just kinda recap

          • Pokenchi could always just recap Salandit and such too.

        • I know that it will be coming beforehand. Always does. Pokenchi is a show meant for children.

          • Brain dead children.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            and yet japan has a high education rate than the US so…

          • Yes, yes they do. But that show is still nothing but complete idiocy every time it comes on. A fucking stick on the ground?! HOLY FUCK! AMAZING!!! And don’t forget to dress up and act like a stupid pile shit. Woo!

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            dude… its a different culture, they have different social norms and act differently, god forbide they dress up to entertain children, which you know, most kids shows around the world do anyways

          • The show is horrible and they overreact to everything and act like old shit is news.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            it is for the children? wtf have you ever actually been around a child in your life? they love that shit

          • Kids love old shit being treated as news? Or maybe they are too stupid to realize that it is old. Either way yes I have. And it is horrible. Sick little creatures.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            you’re messed, little children, like 4-6 yo are the ones that usually watch shows like this, and its not like they go on the goddamn internet to find out news, so yes, this news is new to them, get a grip

          • LIttle kids need to learn to get news from other sources. Besides isn’t Corocoro for kids? Pokenchi sometimes even rehashes that.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            imma start calling you jon snow, because you know nothing about children.

            I am around children everyday and I can assure you, that this program would be perfectly tailored to them, its not meant for you, and sure maybe they can get news from corocoro but they usually don’t have their own money as kids, and pokenchi is something they can just turn on

          • A GoT reference neat… I wish I knew more about that show/world.

            Little kids can’t pay for TV either unless it is free there or something?

          • Haxford

            Because most children aren’t on pj or serebii to find out the latest news

          • The show is still stupid and pointless. Like who funds it?

          • Haxford

            People who actually care about children.

          • So rapists? o.o

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            ok, back the hell up, and just leave, that is not something you should say or even joke about

          • I am serious though.

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            you disgust me tbh

          • Thank you.

          • DefensiveBastiodon

            Have you ever actually watched it

          • The Lavender Swirlix

            yes?

    • EarthenWarrior

      Watch it just be Salandrit

  • I am tired of leaks and rumours and speculation and all this other bullshit. I just want official info.

    • Nickerton

      Then go live under a rock until the games come out :'(

      • Official news comes 1-2 times a month. So I don’t have to live under a rock until they come out.

    • Reece

      Well I mean we did just get a bunch within the past couple of weeks. Just be patient and it’ll come

      • That’s fine but all these stupid rumours and such are making me ill.

        • Reece

          Well pay no attention to em then, easy!

          • But what if they end up being real? They suck so much dick.

          • Reece

            Well that’s your opinion then. I mean they seem to know what they’ve been doing for 20 years now, and a lot of Pokemon in the past have got slack but there was hardly a boycott movement because of an ice cream Pokemon
            If there are 90 Pokemon like the rumour says, I’m sure that you’ll have plenty of Pokemon to choose from and there’ll be somin that you like. If not, don’t buy the game. Simple as. (Not being rude or offensive, but if one person doesnt buy their game, I don’t think it’s the end of the world for them)

          • The problem is not knowing if this horrible shit is real or not.

          • Reece

            Like I said, nothing you can do to change it unfortunately. Game’s pretty much made.
            Sometimes a change is good and you might find yourself enjoying it if they steer away from the normal journey of a Pokemon game

          • Are you not reading what I am saying? Sure if it is real that sucks but what the problem is is that we don’t know if it is real or not.

          • nb97

            Dude, no offense but you’re a big ball of negativity. Whining about this and that doesn’t change a single thing. I don’t like this no league stuff either, but get over it. Game Freak doesn’t usually do shitty work and you’ll probably end up enjoying it anyway.

          • No I won’t end up enjoying it and my main problem is fucking Litten. Stupid bastards fucked it up horribly. But again that isn’t what I am trying to get across here. I want to have it either confirmed officially or denied officially.

          • nb97

            I also get that. I simply hate Popplio’s rumoured final evo but what can we do? I think that we’ll most likely get the second form of the starters in late August or the beginning of September. After that we can pretty much tell if these leaks are real or fake. Also the league stuff seems unlikely and even if it’s real, I’m pretty sure that you’ll have to defeat certain trainers to make them act as Gym Leaders because why the heck would they obey a 10 year old kid?

          • Even if we get the second evos that doesn’t really do much to confirm anything. The only thing that confirms it is seeing the real final evos.

          • nb97

            That’s not entirely true. If you look at the second forms you can pretty much tell where they’re heading. You have a point that they won’t confirm these fake but they might foreshadow something entirely different.

          • Second evos don’t mean anything. We have to wait until the games release because I don’t see them showing off the final evos until the games are basically out.

  • TheNintendoChip

    Ayy we got mentioned by Shofu! Literally went to this article and used it as the primary source for the video. [Apologies if this was already posted]

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      good now he better go back to online battles i miss him:(

    • First time I’m seeing this.

    • Nickerton

      Tldw :/

      • TheNintendoChip

        In this video, Shofu reads the article out loud. He mentions some points for its credibility (including the Rockruff bio).

        • I wonder how many fans are outraged by the Gyms and League being removed and you have to create your own in the comments. YouTube comments are like cancer. I try not to look but I can’t help it.

    • The Lavender Swirlix

      never heard of shofu but neat

  • DefensiveBastiodon

    I’m ready for some types other than fire types to get love. Charizard Y with Drought and Primal Groudon pretty much serviced fire and grass types…

  • Pokemania88

    So this is my current best Pokemon. What are your strongest Pokemon in Pokemon go?

    • Green

      Lol. Squidward.

      • Pokemania88

        Yah XD I mean, just look at the nose. That was the deciding factor to nickname him that lol

    • Green

      Mine is Beedrill. Then again I live in the Plains suburbs and I started last night at 8.

      • Pokemania88

        Nice! I don’t have a beedrill yet. I have Kakuna but no Beedrill!

    • DefensiveBastiodon

      Mine is a Pidgeotto but there’s nothing where I live so I have to go to the city to play.

      • Pokemania88

        Nice! That’s pretty good!

    • Hockward

      Based on CP, my two strongest.

      • Pokemania88

        Holy moly man. That’s crazy. I have a pinsir but not that strong! And that pidgeot yoooooooo

        • Hockward

          Pidgeot has been buffed with Stardust about 4 times, but Pinsir hasn’t been touched since I caught him. Got really lucky with that one!

          • Pokemania88

            I can see! Wow!

      • Poekoko

        Same but 541 CP PInsir

    • Reece

      I’m so excited to find out what Pokemon I can get in my area (especially seeing as I live in London & go to uni up north where there’s a city and a beach near)

      • Pokemania88

        Dude it’s so fun. I got like, 5 Dratini’s on the beach!

        • Reece

          I so cannot wait! Ahhhhh I wanna see what I can get now!

      • Hockward

        Universities/college are LOADED. Pokestops everywhere, gyms everywhere, Pokemon everywhere. I personally am not in a college town right now, but my friends who are go on multiple daily walks and catch dozens of Pokemon of all types.

        • Reece

          My main concern is where I’ll be able to find Pokestops to restock up on Pokeballs I guess.
          Ahhh they need to hurry up with the bugs and whatnot and release it here in the UK!

          • Hockward

            Parks are basically always Pokestops. Landmarks, fountains, police/fire stations, churches, etc. are typically all stops as well

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      a golbat CP 124 i think:(

    • ShinyXatu

      Currently Eevee, CP 104. I’ve only been playing passively so far.

      • Pokemania88

        Nice!

    • Gikie

      Pidgeotto CP148. I have to adult lol well like more so with a child.

    • Ithsme

      Flareon CP 575

      • Pokemania88

        Whoa….. Duuuuude

    • Jack Bailey

      My beautiful vaporeon hatched yesterday as really strong eevee from a 10km egg 😁

      • Pokemania88

        Niiiice!

    • Tanner Jackson Bates

      I’ve got 4 roughly the same strength, a 698 Flareon, 696 Jolteon, 689 Scyther, and 688 Pinsir

      • Vlad

        What’s the point if there’s no battling ?

  • Galemcaedus

    So no Elite 4? Krysta mentioned ”Island Trials” as the way to become the Alola champion.

    • She doesn’t know what the fuck she is talking about. That segment was a bunch of bull.

      • Can we ever get a nice comment out of you? *Hides under covers and prepares to be cussed out*

        • The Lavender Swirlix

          idk, he was nice for like one day [yesterday at some point]

          but know he’s just bitter again

          • Bullshit tends to piss me off.

          • pokejungle

            Be nice or I have to block you

        • Nope.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      I’m thinking, if there are no gym leaders, the 7 island trials would replace gym battles rather than the E4.

      • It is 4 islands.

        • SesquipedalianPokedex

          But it is 7 trials

          • Why? How does that even make any sense?

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            That’s what they said at E3, that there would be 7

          • I still don’t see how that makes even a little bit of sense.

          • ShinyXatu

            Three on the first three islands and an Elite Four on the final island.

          • It is implied it is replacing the gyms though.

          • ShinyXatu

            Well, when I say “Elite Four” I’m not talking about the one in the league. They could be overhauling the gym system altogether.

          • It still doesn’t make any sense. Plus there is that artificial island I refuse to believe that is the evil team’s base because it is way to suspicious.

          • ShinyXatu

            My guess is that the artificial island is the new Battle Tower location. After-game material.

          • MenacingCascoon

            Battle frontier??? Battle frontier???

          • MenacingCascoon

            Jk battle frontier is dead RIP 3 Gods, 3 Goddess, and tucker

          • Galemcaedus

            Battle Royal location maybe?

          • That seems unlikely.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            How so? What are you evaluating the likelihood by? It could be anything at this point.

          • It seems too prominent to just be post game material.

          • ShinyXatu

            The island is tiny (in comparison to the others) and has one huge building. Is it too much of a stretch to assume this?

          • I don’t suppose so but it seems story relevant.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            How do you know what is related to the story though, we know little to nothing about the story!

          • You don’t just put something so suspicious right smack dab in the middle of the region without it being important.

          • Anon

            Post game content is hidden by clouds (or ice in BW2’s case) this island wasnt hidden by clouds and was mentioned as being part of alola so yeah seems likely that it is story related

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I would agree with you except there isn’t any clouds that look like they’re covering anything up, but who knows, it’s sort of a pointless argument at this point.

          • Anon

            Top right corner, there is an island with a single tree partialy covered by clouds 😉

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            Ah the Pinical of post game content a single tree on an island, you can still see it though so I don’t really think that counts but whatever, I could be wrong.

          • SesquipedalianPokedex

            I’m sure if game freak tried to make a game that catered specifically to your sense of what makes sense and what is a good idea, they wouldn’t try anything new at all. :/

  • The Lavender Swirlix

    frig! The other starters are growing on me, don’t get me wrong I still like popplio the most, but I don’t think the others are ugly anymore

    • Litten is still ass.

      • Galemcaedus

        Litten is bae

        • Not with the rumoured final evolution it ain’t.

          • Galemcaedus

            I’ll just press B when its evolving and keep Litten forever and ever.

          • Then it will be weak as fuck. And that doesn’t negate the fact that the shitty final evo still exists.

    • I feel the same way, but I still depise Litten’s final Evolution. I just can’t get over how it’s bipedal. Would of been nice to have had a quadpedal final evo for Litten. After 20 years, you would think they’d change things up a little.

      • The Lavender Swirlix

        yeah I mean, thats a bummer, it deff would have been better on all fours and majestic and stuff imo, but I still like this i guess

  • ShinyXatu

    Can someone explain PokeStops to me? I’ve passed by tons but I need this “PokeStop module” thingy. Do I have to buy those?

    • Hockward

      Huh? All you should have to do is get in range of the stop, it should change from a cube to a medallion looking shape. You then click on it to zoom in, spin the medal of the picture, and get items. No module should be required; never even heard of it

      • ShinyXatu

        Oh, I didn’t know I had to spin it. Looks like I missed lots of free items.

        • Pokemania88

          Yup. You have to spin it…. The Module is just a thing that lures Pokemon to your Pokestop.

        • Hockward

          Ah, that’s probably it. Yeah, once you spin, you should get 3-5 items. However, there is a Lure Module you can buy, which is like an incense, but causes pokemon to go to your specific stop you’re at. It works for everyone nearby too

    • Pokemania88

      Okay so have you gotten any items from Pokestops yet?

  • The Lavender Swirlix

    ok I’m gone, theres still a heck of a lot of negativity going around today, and I just aint about that life toodlez for now

    • ShinyXatu

      Toddler to you too!

    • I think I’m gonna get off too. This is becoming unhealthy for me. Especially for someone who has paranoia like me. I hate leaking season. I really do.

    • MenacingCascoon

      Heres a protip for negativety:
      Ignore it 🙂
      There are a lot of people here recently im sure you can find another conversation to be apart of than trying to deal a wall of negativeity. You cant change the mind of a wall

      • MenacingCascoon

        Also there is a block user button i dont quite know what it means but im sure it can help with ignoring process

  • MenacingCascoon

    Pokemon GO seems very interesting. I wjll get it in a month if it is still relevant. Also i hope these leaks are fake. And the starter final evos even though they seem to be very real.

    • ShinyXatu

      I’m playing the game casually until they figure out their server issues.

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      is fun tbh. right now everybody is playing it because when you hype a mobile game before release everyone jumps to the bandwagon. i have so many friends rn that never played pokemon that downloaded it. we will see if it actually manage to be a strong mobile game that last 3 months atleast

  • Reece

    I have to say, the more I stare at these final evolution designs, the more I like em
    I can’t wait to find out if these rumours or true or not. Interesting change with the whole gym aspect if it turns out to be correct info

    • ShinyXatu

      I’m having trouble figuring out the flaws of Popplio 3 and Rowlet 3, although I can understand the hate for Litten 3. I really wanted a quadruped Fire/Poison tiger, but Fire/Poison has already been made a reality!

      • TheNintendoChip

        I think it’s because people weren’t expecting them. As in, Rowlet 3 has a hood, but people think it’d look better without it. Or Popplio 3 is a siren, when people think it should be more clown like. Stuff like that.
        It’s not that the designs are inherently flawed, it’s just not what some people wanted because they expected a certain theme.

      • Reece

        I think a lot of hate for Popplio’s is that it’s too feminine (but who cares, its Pokemon!)
        Roulette’s just looks so cool, and I can understand the apprehension with Litten’s – as it’s bipedal and a wrestler of some kind which could mean fighting – but I would’ve gone for part dark

        • nb97

          My problem with Popplio is exactly as you say. It’s girly but to an extreme extent. Delphox is feminine too but I had no problems with it. This is too much. The other thing’s also right, I expect this. Popplio just doesn’t seem girly to me. It’s giving off some “little boy” vibes to me at least.

          • ShinyXatu

            Maybe it could be like a “drag queen” situation, I have no idea.

          • nb97

            I don’t know either but whining about this doesn’t change a thing. I just like to sound my opinion but please tell me if I’m irritating or something. I don’t want to be a burden to anyone.

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        my problem with popplio3 is that nothing about it reminds me of popplio. with rowlet and litten 3 there are alot of things in the design that reminds me of them but popplio? not even the color scheme is the same one ( is basically white now)

        • nb97

          I wouldn’t say that it doesn’t resemble it, rather it’s very different. The basic characteristics are still the same, so the tail or the body structure remains pretty much unchanged. But apart from that it doesn’t match Popplio’s character that much. Sure, Froakie also got rid of its foam when it evolved into Greninja but that change wasn’t this drastical. When looking at Chicorita and Fennekin you just see on their designs that they’re meant to be a little bit more feminine than the other two. But this time it’s different. Popplio doesn’t give out any girly vibes to me at least. But I really don’t know.

        • TheNintendoChip

          So the reverse of what happened to Oshawott (for color scheme)? Started out primarily light blue + white, turned, became dark blue as Samurott

          • nb97

            I was thinking that Samurott looks more like Popplio’s final than Oshawott’s. 😀

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            fair enough. atleast oshawott still have the shell thing going on. popplio had the dorky nose but now is smaller and not that cute:(

      • Litten 3 is actually the best of the lot though. Who cares if it’s Fire/Fighting. Popplio 3 is AWFUL. Rowlet 3 is close first.

        • nb97

          Thank you! 😀

        • Ultron

          No human tigers! NO.

          • WRESTLING TIGERS ARE YES. Creepy human seal looking things are no.

          • Ultron

            Both are big no no’s!

    • nb97

      I’m the same except for Popplio’s. Rowlet’s design is simply awesome and Litten grew on me little by little but I just can’t come to like Popplio’s even for a tiny bit. I said it a million times already and I really don’t want to whine about it but it’s just a big no for me… I really loved Popplio from the start but this thing disgusts me for some reason. It’s just too girly. This is a first for me tho. Never disliked a Pokémon before because it’s feminine. The design seems too off for me. I don’t get this girly vibe from Popplio.

      • Reece

        Yeah I understand where ya coming from with Popplio’s – I thought the same at first – but then I realised that it’s not that big of a deal, I mean the long hair reminds me of Jason Momoa as Aquaman

        • DefensiveBastiodon

          The sexiest Aquaman there is, Jason Momoa. Literally irl Archie.

    • PercyEspeon

      Yeah I am feeling the same. Even with Litten’s.
      I still don’t care for Litten’s evo tho, since I wanted something else and I really don’t want it to be Fire/Fighting.
      I’m just gonna hope and give it time

  • thegreatcarbinkle

    if they make rockruff bipedal with more human characteristics than wolf characteristics
    https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-01/29/17/enhanced/webdr08/anigif_enhanced-21554-1422569214-28_preview.gif

    • nb97

      Yeah, was also thinking about this. Making Rockruff a werewolf as they said in the article would make absolutely no sense. According to the wording on the official site, it only has one evolution. If it’s true, evolving from a puppy to a bipedal big wolf thing seems dumb. With a middle stage wolf evo it wouldn’t be so dumb but I just want Rockruff to evolve into a regular old wolf.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Here’s a thought Bipedal Rockruff evo that’s Rock and dark type.. Dark due to it being a werewolf. I’m sure people wouldn’t be very happy with the 4X weakness to fighting hahaha

    • Chicolombia

      You mean like a Furry pokemon?

      • thegreatcarbinkle

        you know what, that probably going to happen and they wont even know what they just created

  • Reece

    Just had a thought about this, don’t know if anyone has said this or not but what if the secret that the starters + Rockruff have if something to do with these humanoid evolutions?
    I mean these three starters evos all show human characteristics and traits (more than a Pokemon should) and if Rockruff becomes a werewolf – which is basically a human wolf, then surely there’s some kind of connection – along with the whole “synergy/bond” aspect that’s been floating around

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    Just saw on Serebii that we’re set to get new footage on the 17th from Pokenchi. I imagine that the rest of the world will get a trailer sooner than that. With this being a thing I think I’m far more inclined to believe that 4Chan leaker as they stated that we’d get a trailer on the new mechanic next week. HYPE!!!!

    • It is Pokenchi it won’t be new.

  • Galemcaedus

    Rockruff’s description on the Pkmn website states that before it evolves, it starts to howl while the sun goes down. Which actually would make me believe even more that these leaks are legit.

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Yeah. I hope its evo isn’t too scary tho. the description also states that it leaves to evolve and then comes back. I can’t imagine the fear of having a werewolf suddenly sneak up on you while you are waiting for a cute and cuddly dog to come back hahaha

    • TheNintendoChip

      Unless the leaks were made after that information was released…

  • Mr.Samurott

    Please! I dont like Poplio, well I dont hete it but He wont be my opcion for my starter but please, dont turn him in that shitty pokemon design 😭😭😭😭 it’s too girly, I know twe get a female design pokemon as starter like gen 1 it was Vensaur, gen 2 Meganium, gen 3 Blaziken, gen 4 Empoleom, gen 5 Serperior and gen 6 Dephox but please they look both gender. 😭😭😭 this one look awful, cool for girls but what about men.

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Men get like EVERY OTHER STARTER, I don’t masculine starters are at any sort of shortage 😐

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        Yeah like every other starter evo has been in a word “masculine” So it’s probably about time one wasn’t. lol

    • Reece

      Your argument is that you want all starters to be male orientated?
      What if some female players want the starters to be geered towards being female?
      Try for a female Popplio if you’re that concerned about your Pokemon’s identity and your problems with having something “girly” on your save file

    • Dude, there are like, barely any female looking pokemon that aren’t just cutesy. Plus your same argument could be applied the opposite way. “Cool for men, but what about girls?”

    • nb97

      It’s good to know that someone actually thinks that Blaziken and Empoleon are feminine… I might understand Serperior but Empoleon and Blaziken? lol

      • SesquipedalianPokedex

        And fat warty toad venasaur! I don’t know what’s feminine about venasaur, that it has a flower on it?!

        • nb97

          Oh yeah, I completely forgot about Venusaur. Maybe he’s thinking about the tree/flower/whatever that is on its back. But god, it’s all but not feminine.

      • Ultron

        Serperior is elegant but not feminine

    • thegreatcarbinkle
      • PercyEspeon

        Yeah that’s super weird to say xD

    • Ultron

      You can like “girl” things and still be a boy….

      • thegreatcarbinkle
        • Ultron

          Sending gender roles/social standards to the grave is a pleasure I indulge in. (I’m not an sjw, just a boy who has a softer side. Never repeat that.)

          • Pizza rolls not gender rolls

          • Ultron

            I want some now

          • thegreatcarbinkle

            masculinity is so fragile sometimes is so sad

          • Ultron

            I know right. So funny to see them get mad lmao

          • PercyEspeon

            *high fives* Something I enjoy doing as well :3

    • SnappyK

      Meganium and Delphox are the only feminine starters. And that is because of a Pink flower and a dress.

  • This evolution explains disarming voice. Sirens lure their victims with their beauty and their singing. These have got to be real

    • Galemcaedus

      Earthen doesnt want it to be Water/Fairy though 😛

      • Well I do…

        • Galemcaedus

          So do I 🙂

        • Ultron

          That’s all that matters 🙂

  • Galemcaedus

    I’ve just came across another potential leak, this is from May though.

    3 New Pokemon:
    Deuxdrop
    Grass/Water Based on a dewdrop on a leaf, it’s actually two small dewdrops holding a leaf over their heads. I think it’s a middle form, since it doesn’t really look finished. I’m guessing the other forms are a single dewdrop, and then three, kinda like Magneton or Dugtrio. Absolute GARBAGE attack, but decent Special Attack + a lot of speed

    Angleam
    Water/Electric and Lanturn evolution

    Duddigoyle – Rock and pre-evo of Druddigon

    Other details: Trainers show an emotional response when their Pokémon either faints or beats the opponent.

    Items used in gym battles/island trials are tied to the difficulty setting (yes you read that correct)

    At the beginning of the game, your mother will give you a “Sunglasses Case” and tell you that they can “help you see the world differently”. You can’t do anything with it until you reach a changing station in a Pokemon Center (Yes, customization has been brought back).

    While at the changing station, you can access the case, and there will be two pairs of sunglasses you can wear, each corresponding to a difficulty level. Putting on the Rose glasses makes the game easier, while the Sunflower glasses makes it harder (I thought it was cute that the “rose tinted glasses” make things easier). Unfortunately, this does mean that if you play on Easy or Hard, you are forced to wear sunglasses.

    • EarthenWarrior

      Immediately wrong
      Druddigon would never have a rock prevo

      • Galemcaedus

        Like I said, the leak dates back from May. The same article also implies several punch and dance moves are useable in the field.

      • Galemcaedus

        I actually lost any interest in reading it after the ”easy, normal and hard mode” part. We’re never getting difficulty levels. Archive this reply in case I’m proven wrong xD.

    • that lanturn evo came out of nowhere

    • thegreatcarbinkle

      so this leaker is saying that druddigon was a baby rock that believed it could fly and became a dragon?
      http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eMIqYc1ctOY/VfDnP1–qJI/AAAAAAAAIs8/oxCIbAyCgGU/s640/nick-young-confused-face-300×256.png

      • Galemcaedus

        Hey, I’m just sharing stuff I read online. Not claiming that its real 🙂

        • thegreatcarbinkle

          i know nothing agaisnt you is just that was so random and funny

      • Galemcaedus

        But I’d be down for difficulty levels. XY were easy af

        • thegreatcarbinkle

          RIGHT? i mean i understand the game is directed to kid but difficult levels will be a blessing to every single person who bought the game

    • SesquipedalianPokedex

      Seems fake, the glasses thing sounds really bizarre, even compared to having no gym leaders, also we have seen no indication that there will be evolutions for older Pokemon in the game, they did get the trainers in the background thing right but I’m calling lucky guess.

    • Hahahahahahahahhahahaha no.

      • Galemcaedus

        The difficulty levels and the Druddigon pre-evo make it very hard to believe.

  • Galemcaedus

    Also reading something about a Dragon/Rock dinosaur cyclop with blade arms lol

    • Ultron

      But we already have a rock/dragon Dino. :I

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    Im back, but only to speculate on these, I hadn’t left the page on my computer and saw this. No spoilers yet hopefully for me. I will actually be sticking around until these are proven false or true in the next coro coro, but I have a friend who is going to check for me to make sure no new ‘mons get spoiled for me.

    Here is why I think they are false:

    As many have stated, a fire/ poison lizard has been thought of before because of fiery salamanders with toxins in their biological make up. It could easily have been speculated by someone.

    Also, like people have said, the werewolf thing could easily be assumed by anyone based on the flavor text.

    These evos don’t make sense seeing how someone said its called Panthster or something, yet the tag on the pictures says Tiger3. Also, why wouldn’t those names just be present along with the images. Or am I talking about two different leaks? This has been one jumbled mess.

    The super move theory has way more credibility since Kukui has been studying moves, but why would it result in a change to aesthetics. Pickachu looked the same in the image on the website, and Ash-Greninja is half a kalos starter, half an anime character who has never appeared before in the games.

    I hope this gets cleared up soon. All of this. What with FB being loaded with the tragedies of our world, and this site being a frenzy, I need it cleared up stat.

    • Galemcaedus

      Litten is bipedal though, doesnt necessarily have to be a tiger.

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        No but it says Tiger3 and someone else said the leaked name is Panthster. (which imo is tricky to pronounce). Why not just call it Panthster on the page. And also, people keep freaking out about a bipedal fire starter AGAIN, but maybe its not a lack of trying, its Gamefreak’s intent. Maybe they want the pattern to be bipedal fire starters, prehistoric animals for grass, and amphibious water starters. The zodiac theory for fire was always reaching a little too far.

        • PercyEspeon

          I didn’t know Chespin was a prehistoric animal? 😉

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            People kinda thought it was based on one of the first mammals.
            EDIT: There’s also a theory I saw that said the grass starters represent the natural evolution of animals over time. We’ve only now reached mammals and then birds. Probably not though.

          • PercyEspeon

            I dunno, that’s kind of a stretch. The first mammals weren’t really hedgehog like, if I recall.
            Plus Treecko’s a gecko. Sure, there were some prehistoric ones maybe, but it’s based off a modern one.
            I think, like the fire zodiac theory, that one is kind of stretch.
            Not everything has to be a pattern 🙂

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Exactly, but design wise, there’s clearly a pattern of bipedal fire starters. When all six are bipedal, its not just coincidence. Especially when grass and water have gone back and forth from bi to quad to none (with serperior).

          • PercyEspeon

            True, but that’s something I wouldn’t consider a theme like with the water starters or the supposed fire zodiac theory. It’s just a design preference for how the fire starters should look.

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Yep, people can still want quads, but the trend goes against them.

          • PercyEspeon

            I still want quads regardless, patterns can always break 🙂
            Heck, people thought for the longest time that the grass starters were reptilian, but then Chespin and now Rowlet proved them otherwise.

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            I want one too lol. and litten being a big fire tiger would be the perfect start to the six upcoming gens of quad fire starters.

    • Anon

      I agree with you 100% its good to see a fellow person that thinks these are fakes

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        I dont even think they are fake because of their appearance. I dont mind them, although I would prefer to not have fire/fighting. Im hoping it will be fire/dark. There’s just some strange red flags in this info.

        • Anon

          Ikr im ok with fire/dark and the supposed fire/ground that everyone forgot about but idk this just reminds of x and y and the rumors of team gear and the whole traveling trough time thing it was just off and weird

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            But were those actual rumors of leaks or just speculation?

          • Anon

            Rumors of some fake leaker i believe, it even mentioned a trainer leveling system

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Here’s hoping this is another repeat fake leaker. PLEASE

  • CoolGlaceon

    Rockruff evolving into a Werewolf is actually quite possible. “Howls when the sun goes down” and becoming “wilder” as it nears evolution are all qualities that Werewolves posses. Also, silver bullets are the only effective weapons against Werewolves and what weakness does Rockruff’s Rock-typing bring? Ding-ding, weakness to Steel-type moves.

    • Anon

      Pfft c’mon that means nothing those are qualities that normal wolves posses aswell

      • Galemcaedus

        The Pokemon website describes Rockruff as a pkmn that evolves when the sun goes down. Basically confirming it will become a werewolf.

        • PercyEspeon

          Not necessarily, it just means it will be wolflike.
          I say more wolf than werewolf

          • Leonleo X

            When it becomes bipedal will fans howl like wolves?

          • PercyEspeon

            I honestly wouldn’t care since it’s still a wolf and I’ll love it.
            I just think it’ll be more wolf than werewolf.

          • Anon

            Yeah and i mean it is a puppy, the tamed form of a wolf, so a puppy becoming wilder is basically turning into a wolf

          • PercyEspeon

            Exactly.
            I wouldn’t mind either one, but I feel, based on the info we have, it’s going to evolve into a wolf not a werewolf. But that’s how I see it. I can see why it would turn into a werewolf tho, as CoolGlaceon’s post makes sense and I like the idea presented.

          • Anon

            Yeah i gues i dont mind either aswell but just like you im leaning towards wolf but at this point it could be anything heck maybe even a dingo to go along with komala

        • Anon

          No no no read again it just howls when the sun goes down it doesnt state that it evolves at the same time

          • Galemcaedus

            Maybe I just want it to be a werewolf xD

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I’ve never understood the idea of a Pokemon wereworlf. By definition a werewolf is a human being that turns into a wolf. That’s where the “were” comes from. Otherwise it’d have to be a “something else wolf” lol

      • Anob

        Zoroark is kinda a fox werewolf hybrid i think

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          But again it’d would be a “were” wolf per say as the word “were” in werewolf means man. It’d technically be something entirely different. Unless we get to catch a human being!!!! lol

          • Anon

            Hahaha
            Man: woah kiddo what are you doing?
            Kid: shut up werewolfmon i know it is you
            Man: what??
            Kid: CHARIZARD USE FLAMETHROWER

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Omg im yelling.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Hahaha that’s funny

          • PercyEspeon

            Man : I WAS JUST WALKING IN THE WOODS WHHYYYY I AM ON FIRE HELP ME
            KId : POkeball go! *throws pokeball at man that hits his head*
            Man : WHY YOU GOT TO MAKE IT WORSE KICK A MAN WHEN HE’S DOWN WILL YOU GEEZE

          • Anon

            Hahaha poor guy

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            Human-like fox is about all you can call Zoroark.

      • CoolGlaceon

        OMG U HAVE TO SYNERGIZE WITH ROCKRUFF LIKE ASH-GRENINJA TO EVOLVE IT. THIS IS WHY ROCKRUFF HAS SOMETHING “SPECIAL” ABOUT IT. THIS WOULD MAKE ROCKRUFF PART HUMAN ERGO A WEREWOLF. IT MAKES SENSE NOW. I sound like such a conspiracy theorist holy shit

        • PercyEspeon

          I still don’t see an Ash-Greninja type of thing happened in the games, but I’ll get used to it if it ends up being true.

          • CoolGlaceon

            Same. Especially with customizable trainers. Good luck with modeling 800+ Pokemon times the number of clothing options in SM

          • PercyEspeon

            Yeah, that sounds like a pain.

          • Galemcaedus

            Which is why I think that, should it be a thing it will be exclusive to the Alola starters.

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            What’s the point then? Introduce a mechanic that only affects three pokemon? Stick to megas, gamefreak, they’re still fresh out of the oven.

          • CoolGlaceon

            Could be cool if done right. But looking at Ash-Greninja.. No thanks, Litten’s (potential) final evo is ugly enough

  • EarthenWarrior

    HOLY SHIT
    ME AND MY FRIENDS BEAT RIVAL ROUND 2 IN POKEMON STADIUM 2 WITH RENTALS
    YOU SHOULD’VE SEEN IT

    • Deerlia

      “Look fellas, I got a rock!”

  • MenacingCascoon
  • Rockcrawdaunt

    Just one gym leader, an evo of rockruff, the first evos for the starters, or clarification of the diamond stones could negate these leaks. *fingers crossed*

    • Galemcaedus

      Masuda did say they would reveal the purpose of the bracelets in the coming months.

    • Anon

      We have corocoro coming and according to serebii pokenchi will have gameplay on the 17th so im hoping this rumor gets debunked so i can move on with my excited, hyped about sun and moon-self again

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        Dude same

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      Well the leaker that said he was fired from being a translator said that there would be a trailer up next week talking about the new mechanic and wouldn’t you know it Pokenchi has announced that they are gonna show something new off in relation to Sun and Moon. Coincidence? I think not! lol

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        If im not mistaken, Pokenchii isn’t ever the first source of news for us. Plus, what did we get the last time they promised a big reveal? SQUAT.

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          True. I never said they’d be the first to show off whatever it is we get next week. I’d imagine we will get something earlier in the week first from the official Pokemon YouTube channel. Maybe whatever it is will also be in CoroCoro lol

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            True. Couldn’t coro coro leak at any moment?

          • Galemcaedus

            Dont they have an exact date they release their monthly copies? Like around the 10th of each month?

          • PercyEspeon

            15th to be specific 🙂

          • Anon

            Official release is the 15th in japan but leak tend to occur from the 10th-14th maybe even as soon as the 8th

          • Galemcaedus

            Seeing as they’re also rushing the anime because of S/M, it wouldn’t surprise me if they also release a huge chunk of info in the next 2/3 months.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            CoroCoro officially release most months on the 15th. They leak however earlier. The leak is usually when we first hear about the news.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Well it prolly won’t happen for another couple of days, but it could technically leak at anytime now yes lol

          • Anon

            The thing is that i think this leak was a week ago or two so the trailer with the new feature should have been up now. Again im not sure when the leak was posted but i think it was weeks ago and gained credibility with salandit

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            True!!! Im pretty sure this was leaked a while ago and someone just remembered the salandit thing.

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            What? The guy who leaked the trailer time frame posted two days ago. That would still make it next week. Right now we have two different leaks. The Chinese leaks from weeks ago that involve the pics of the starter evos and then another leak from a guy that revealed further “info” which includes him saying that there will be a trailer next week.

          • Anon

            Oh ok the that can mean two things:
            1. This “leaker” saw the chinese “leak” and used it for credibility, this guy also knew that corocoro comes next week and along that comes a video so he used that to increase his credibility
            2. …nothing i guess that maybe they are real(they likely arent)

          • TheSunnyMonster6893

            Hey you could be right. Maybe the Chinese rumors are the only real ones maybe they aren’t. Maybe this other guy is telling the truth maybe he isn’t, but I think at this point the info we DO have is quite interesting. things tend to get more complicated as real leaks start coming. I guess we won’t know for sure until next week. I would like to point out that the interest in the Chinese leaks only re-surged in the past 24 or so hours. So him posting a couple of days ago would put him at leas ta day before anymore of this started becoming a thing. Either way I guess all we can do is wait to see if any of the leaks come true.

          • Anon

            They are interesting ill give you that, they give us something to talk about while we wait for the games

    • CoolGlaceon

      I remember having a leak where only a majority of the information were accurate back in X and Y. I see this being the case for these as well (if they do end up being real). If anything, I want the “no traditional gyms” and Litten’s final evo to not be real cuz those are such disappointments goddamn

      • Rockcrawdaunt

        I dont understand how someone gets only half the info right. Either you played the game and forgot half and made up half, or you’re really lucky and guessed half correctly. That, or you worked on the game and they’ve since done a major overhaul of the entire game.

        • CoolGlaceon

          True. Hey, maybe they think it would throw GameFreak off? A sprinkle of inaccurate info here and there so that GF won’t notice lol

          • Rockcrawdaunt

            I guess. Seems like an odd strategy where you run the risk of being proven false by info being released that pertains to your false 50%.

  • The one thing that is interesting but not all that unusual is because Pokenchi is slow and for children, is that of all the new Pokemon from July, they only showed Tapu Koko. So, they could be showing the remaining Pokemon on the 17th. But that still doesn’t disprove the fired European Employee’s promise of a new video next week. We just have to wait this out I’m afraid.

    • Galemcaedus

      If these leaks are legit, and they will rapidly spread over the internet in the coming days, I’m expecting GF to upload new footage of them on YT tbh.

  • That moment when you end up with the best final stage
    (rf)
    (edited for even lower FPS)

  • Deerlia

    Does anyone have a full compilation of all these rumors? I can’t keep up… My poor hooves are sore.

    • Galemcaedus

      Its on Smogon, but strangely there isn’t a link in the article.

      • Deerlia

        Thanks, just let this deer catch her breath… *pant* *gasp* *sigh*

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      I don’t have a complete comilation of the rumors, but I do have links to the thread in which they are talked about if that helps
      Here:
      http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1244221

      http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/26998711/leaks

      • Anon

        Oooh look at that 4chan where many fake leaks from x and y came from hehe

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Ok ok I hear what you are saying…..4Chan isn’t exactly the most reliable place for leaks hahaha It has happened before tho. Who’s to say it can’t once more? lol

          • Anon

            Yeah right now we are on a wait and see situation so that is exactly what i will do xD

      • Galemcaedus

        The Neogaf post suggests that Ash-Greninja (or at least the transformation mechanic) will be in the game

  • Rockcrawdaunt

    Im so torn. I love rumor season, but there’s always weird stuff that never shows up in the games. Regardless of the outcomes in the past, I don’t like the weird stuff that draws lines in the fandom and makes people want to quit Pokemon. Weirder things have been “leaked” and have no come true. Stay strong, people!

  • Anon

    Hmm if you think about it ppl that work on the translation team shouldnt know anything on when videos are realeased as that is managed by the marketing team and the director and producer of the games are in charge of that i believe

    • Chaos

      Surely news spreads.

      Someone from the marketing team mentions it at lunch, someone a table over hears and starts discussing it with some people. Other people hear and so on.

      • Anon

        I think they would have some kind of secrecy policy in which if they catch you sayng something they will cut your salary or something to avoid tha hehe still it is a possibility

        • Chaos

          But its not really a leak. Since there’s no info, it’s just a time when something will happen.

          It’s like me discussing with a colleague about going out for drinks and me declining saying I have a video I need to finish as the deadline is (insert date). Everything else can be inferred from that.

  • TheSunnyMonster6893

    I choose to believe the rumors we have right now. They may not all come true, but I think the sources are legit. I usually keep myself pretty reserved when it comes to stuff like this, but these are quite odd rumors and I think those kinds of rumors tend to lend themselves better than those that are the typical dregs. Either way I think all will become clear in the next week or so. We are in an interesting and fun time here people. Just remember that at the end of the day we should all still be friends! Don’t let differences in opinions push you apart! lol

    • I choose to believe these rumours suck ass.

    • Anon

      Exactly opinions is what makes an individual unique and interesting, ive come to learn that with the ppl and friends ive met throughout my life

    • PercyEspeon

      I disagree with you on some things regarding the rumors, but I know when to stop 🙂

      • TheSunnyMonster6893

        This is fair lol

  • CoolGlaceon

    So far, only Rowlet and Popplio are the only ones that have shown evidence alluding to potentially being an Archer/Siren with Leafage and Disarming Voice. The moment Litten learns Body Slam, I’d be completely convinced xD

    • Don’t forget Ice Punch and Fire Punch and Thunderpunch and Submission and Seismic Toss and Mach Punch and Mega Punch and Focus Punch and fuck you fans punch. >.>

    • TheSunnyMonster6893

      According to the one guy Littens evo is a Fire/Dark type. So we could see Litten learn a dark type move as well as proof lol

      • Bite wouldn’t prove anything.

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          Well yeah…..a lot of Pokemon get that lol

      • CoolGlaceon

        A dark typed wrestler.. Huh

        • TheSunnyMonster6893

          It’d be a heel!!! lol

  • Wes

    I’m not going to believe or disbelieve anything just yet, but I will say I wouldn’t be disappointed if these turn out to be true. I think it would be fun to make gyms as long as we can truly pick anyone to be the Leaders and they’re not all pre-planned. And as for the starters, my only problem is that I’d choose Popplio despite rooting for Litten previously. Overall though, I just really want a sea cucumber, so I’m crossing my fingers. :p

  • Spetsnaz

    It’s a happy day for me today. My girlfriends son told me he wants to start playing pokemon, so I’m giving him my x version to start with 🙂

  • Chaos

    I don’t believe everything from the rumours, because I don’t really know the fill extent of them just yet….not reading through the entire thread.

    But a new formula with no gyms and e4 is something I would welcome. The idea of each island consisting of a ‘leader’ who you have to beat is something I’ve mentioned before…and would be happy to see.

    As for the Pokemon leaks, they are whatever, we only have supposed names and types which I don’t really care much about. Give me abilities, stats, move pools and then we can talk.

  • Here’s some more rumours/leaks guys: Litten WON’T become shit it will stay quadrupedal. You will get a dolphin Pokemon. There are only two crystals and they are used for a special move for certain mons the crystal you get is simply based on game. The gyms and E4 etc are still in tact. Mega evolution is gone because it was stupid. Pokemon will follow you. You can ride only a select couple Pokemon still. Your trainer is fully customizable. The artificial island is the E4 island. Battle Royal will not be part of the main story, just a multiplayer mode. Rockruff does become a werewolf and is the only evolution for it. Becomes part Dark type. Litten stays pure Fire. Rowlet stays Grass/Flying. Popplio becomes part Fairy. Magearna is not involved in the story. There are no synchros and Ash-Greninja will not be in the game. There will be more than 100 new mons.

    • Chaos

      I call bullshit.

      • But I heard it from a GF employee who was upset that he got fired. You can’t prove that wrong. Just wait. A video will reveal this next week.

        • Chaos

          Well my dad’s friend’s uncle’s great grandson works for GF and he said this is BS

          • Anon

            Pfft im junichi masuda’s long lost brother and i called him right now (he wants to reunite with me btw yay) and he told me this is real!

          • See further proof.

          • I believe the GF employee and Anon.

    • Anon

      Wow wow wow!!!! Best leaks so far!!!!! 100% real

      • These are the best leaks. Would be the best game.

    • lol nah fam. Synchros are coming.

      • To be honest synchros would be fine especially if they removed Megas for it and previous Pokemon who had Megas despite it being stupid for them to have it could get real evos. I don’t know if they will come though.

    • PercyEspeon

      Sounds legit. I totally believe you for some reason!111!

      • I know just like I believe some random bullshit chinese fuck.

        • PercyEspeon

          I believe everything on the internet because people tell me the Internet is always right and to take everything super seriously.

          • Exactly. Even when things contradict each other both are real somehow.

          • PercyEspeon

            Exactly, cause why would the Internet lie to me?

          • PercyEspeon

            There’s no one here who would lie on the Internet!!11!!

          • The internet never lies.

        • Anon

          Well this got real passive agressive real fast xD

          • Rumours are always believed for no reason man and they always suck.

          • Eh, It’s just for fun

          • Until they end up becoming real. >.> I want my rumour to become real because it would be cool.

          • Anon

            Ikr i really dont find the credibility in these

          • Ultron

            Some people here definitely take them WAY WAY WAY too seriously

    • CoolGlaceon

      Chill is gone, right out the window lol

      • I fucking hate rumours and shit. And if these rumour become real I would be so fucking pissed. Litten got fucking reamed.

        • CoolGlaceon

          GF loves their testosterone filled, bipedal Fire starters haha

          • Remember the time they literally made a flaming pile of meat?

          • Emboar aka Dinner?

          • GF needs to love not fucking fans over instead. NOBODY asked for Litten to be fucked like this.

    • Shady

      did u make this ?

      • Nope it is a leak from a real GF member.

        • Shady

          Fine

  • David Nixon

    Yo Guys What’s the problem?

    • Anon

      These are fake, but some believe them and it makes me sad :'( haha jk

      • David Nixon

        you know guys the only way to solve this problem is to wait until CoroCoro comes out. 🙂

        • Anon

          Exactly only 2 to 5 days away from leaking if we are lucky it might leak tonight

        • EarthenWarrior

          Oooooor we nuke the internet

          • David Nixon

            Ooooooor we be patient and stay clam.^v^

          • Galemcaedus

            No I kind of like the nuke idea

          • David Nixon

            i said be patient and stay clam.^v^

    • Litten got destroyed, Popplio became a beautiful goddess, I love these leaks alot of people hate them, the thermostat just got turned up. No more chill.

      • CoolGlaceon

        Popplio got dat glo up

      • PercyEspeon

        I’m just here xD

      • Anon

        My dream of a litten tiger/panther evo went right next to the pile of my unrealized dreams :'(

  • Shady

    300 comments?? ……….. something happening??

    • David Nixon

      this rumor is making our guys feel a little bit uptight.

    • See my comment below. Salt water flowing through the rivers of the pokejungle

      • Shady

        did u mean that sunglasses siren?

        • Nah, this

          Litten got destroyed, Popplio became a beautiful goddess, I love these leaks alot of people hate them, the thermostat just got turned up. No more chill.

          • Shady

            Actually I would like Litten if it become bipedal …..and my theory was true no one in these quadrupedal fakemon could be characteristic more than this one. I have fire starter strike but I don’t mind this one.

        • Anon

          No he meant that everyone is trying to prove why these are fake/real and everyone lost their chill/patience

    • PercyEspeon

      Nah just discussion really

  • Galemcaedus

    If Litten does turn Fire/Fighting, I will make it my life’s goal to kill all Littens.

  • Oh in that rumour that I totally found that is so legit I forgot to mention a pure Ice wolf mon is coming too it is quadrupedal and has one evolution. Spikes of ice along its back very fierce. Love it.

    • PercyEspeon

      Seriously though, if that wolf evo here was real, I would be hype for it. It sounds awesome

      • People have been begging for this along with a koala and dolphin forever. And a real kangaroo. Why wouldn’t GF actually realize fan dreams instead of crushing them into dust and give us a floating plate of spaghetti.

    • Dang, you know how to make me perk up with that ice wolf

    • Galemcaedus

      Ice wolf makes me wet, I want it now.

    • Anon

      Junichi masuda also told me that the evil team is team rocket and the goal is to make money off alolas tourism! But i couldnt tell i he was joking with me or if he was serious :/ masuda is a serious prankster

      • PercyEspeon

        I bet 😉 Tell him I said hi 😛

        • Anon

          Will do! 🙂

      • Yup sounds legit. Silver comes back and has taken over for his father. I heard this too.

        • Anon

          Yes! This is exactly what he told me!

          • Yeah I know I was there beside him as he told you.

  • I just wish there was some piece of evidence that were tear apart both the Chinese and European leakers. But we have nothing. We have to painfully wait for the European Employee to stay true to his word or not. Hopefully it’s the latter and this is all just a nightmare. As no one in the community can prove or disprove those ****ing Starter Concept sheets. It’s been over a month since those came out of nowhere. The problem is because they came out of nowhere and no one has been able to disprove them real or fake, I’m starting to kinda believe them.

    • Ithsme

      What word does the European leaker need to stay true to?

      • That a video showing a Gorilla and Beaver-like Pokemon is revealed next week on the Official Channel. The Gorilla is Ground/Fighting and the Beaver is Normal/Water.

        • Anon

          Soo bibarel is a new pokemon?

          • Not exactly. Some people think the leaker confused the design for the Capybara, a large rodent native to Canada that looks like a beaver. And it’s Ability can supposedly copy other Pokemon’s Abilities and the leaker says it’s a new Ability. Lol. *Points a finger to Trace*.

          • Anon

            Wait but capybaras are native to south america

          • Are they? Someone told me they were native to Canada.

          • Anon

            Ive heard they are used as pets on canada and parts of the usa but i think they are from the amazon

          • Galemcaedus

            Yungoos isn’t native to Alola, so if they ship over a native from Canada or South America, it wouldnt be new,

        • Ultron

          It’s supposedly a capybara not a beaver haha

          • EarthenWarrior

            Copybara and Georilla

          • Ultron

            yeah yeah, names are irrelevant

        • Ithsme

          You do realize that not revealing them as a reaction to the leaker is a possibility?

          • No, they have this all planned out. Even with the leaks, if they are true, I’m sure Game Freak will post the video. It happened with Tapu Koko and the other 6 when they were leaked.

  • Ultron

    You know, mega evolution never would’ve been necessary if instead of designing an entire new convoluted yet temporary mechanic, they just gave pokemon stat boosts and actual evolutions…

    • Reece

      I’m starting to view Megas more as a story plot – I mean with the whole Delta episode and AZ & the Ultimate Weapon etc
      Maybe when this whole arc plays out, there’ll be a new mechanic of some sort?

      • Ultron

        Yeah I suppose that’s a good point. I mean Mega Evolution is okay, they just need to go back to real evos for pokemon. That’s what everyone wants.

        • Reece

          I totally agree! I mean I love Eevee and all, but some Pokemon do need a bit of an upgrade (I mean poor Jynx being left out of the fab threesome)

          • Ultron

            Poor Jynx…

    • TheNintendoChip

      Except for the Megas of pokemon already in their 3rd stage. It’s also probably for promotion (Wow, my dearest Gen 1 Charizard just got even more powerful?? Cool!!).
      I’d prefer that those without 2 evolutions would get an evo instead of a Mega, though.

      • EarthenWarrior

        Charizard is really powerful
        http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-397090970
        Proof positive

      • Ultron

        Well that’s what the stat boost would be for if they REALLY felt the need to give a fully evolved pokemon another evolution.

  • Galemcaedus

    ”There are many unmarked locations on the map, which are known as ”districts” and contain powerful Pokémon known as Overlords”. These are not the Island Guardians.

    • More news from our friend the evil fired European Employee?

      • Galemcaedus

        I got this from Smogon, I have no idea if its from the same person though.

    • Anon

      I call bs, mirage spot was a better name than “district” i mean what is this? The hunger games?

      • Galemcaedus

        Idk, district is a pretty American term and Alola is based off an American state.

      • I volunteer the designer of fucked up LItten as tribute.

  • David Nixon

    okay guys since the rumors that there’s going to be 90 Pokemon,we need to figure out what be the 90 Pokemon listings be.

    • Reece

      Well I mean first of all, it’s a rumour
      Second, how would we even be able to work out what all 90 are? We can only predict about 25-30-ish

      • David Nixon

        good point 🙂

    • Anon

      Okay… litten popplio and rowlet(they dont evolve) the rest are new cosplays for pikachu amd the ones we have seen were removed from the game 😉

    • Ultron

      I heard the remaining pokemon are all fire/fighting types.

  • Ithsme

    Is anyone else having an issue with the gyms in Pokemon GO? I challenged one earlier, and I could not get the last Pokemon below one HP. It got down to minimum health, and I couldn’t kill it. Just now, my brother had the same issue. I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this, and help is appreciated.

    • Hockward

      Earlier, I successfully defeated a gym. I went to repeat and take it over, but it would say “Battle 1… GO!” and then kick me out. That was about 30 minutes ago

      • Ithsme

        That happened to me once a few days ago, but the servers went down, so I assuming that was the issue, but I guess not.

        • Hockward

          May just be a gym-specific thing going on

  • I just realized something. The creating your own Gyms and League kinda sadly makes sense. You do that in Pokemon GO. Maybe Masuda and the team wanted to try it out in the main series. Well, fuck them!

    • inb4 servers go down

    • Galemcaedus

      I do find it refreshing they want to try new things, should always aim to improve yourself and your products.

      • Except this isn’t an improvement.

      • I just think if they get rid of such a staple for over 20 years, it will be very sad. I mean, if they get rid of Gyms and the League and you have to create your own, what’s the purpose of traveling around the damn place? It’s like butter without bread I feel.

    • Reece

      Why are you getting so worked up over these rumours? They’re just rumours, so sit back and try to relax while we wait for confirmation
      And I don’t think there’s a connection between Go and the main games in that sense seeing as how the battling system is different. It was implemented to make it more like real life – while the main games are obviously fantasy

    • Anon

      Nah i dont think go will affect anything in the core series, you will just be able to trade pkmn from go to sun and moon…hopefully

      • *Prays to Arceus all these leaks are fake and the Chinese leaker is a fucking troll and got a lucky guess or just had that one bit of info and wanted to tease us with more fake info*

    • Ithsme

      Would you rather have the exact same formula for the rest of the Pokemon series? We need change, we’ve had the same thing (mostly) for 20 years. I’m not saying that it’s a bad formula, but change is needed to keep it fresh.

      • I’d prefer that to this bs.

        • It really isn’t that bad of an idea. It’s a great way to drive the plot.

          • Not really. Because it would force outside interaction from the game which is stupid.

          • I think the idea is that you establish the whole 8 gyms

          • By yourself as just a 10 year old?

          • No one said they were 10. Plus, it is alot more believable than taking down a terrorist organization then catching a god.

          • Anon

            They certainly look younger than hilbert and hilda which where confirmed to be 14

          • Pretty sure Hilbert and Hilda were also confirmed as 10.

          • No. Corocoro confirmed they were older than 10

          • I don’t remember that. I’d like proof of that. Not that Corocoro knows anything.

          • “In the May 2010 volume of CoroCoro Comics, it was stated that Hilda and Hilbert are older than previous player characters, but it is not known how much older they are.
            According to game scenario author Toshinobu Matsumiya, Hilda and Hilbert were initially visualized to be at the age of 16.[1]
            According to an interview in Famitsu, Hilda and Hilbert were identified as about 14 years old.”

            http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Hilda_(game)

          • Anon

            ^ this

          • Personally, I see them at age 16 to be closer to N’s age thus making them more as equals, yet opposites

          • Only source I see is Matsumiya. But that only says “initially visualized” which means nothing.

          • …. They were designed at age 16. They visualized them being 16. How does that mean nothing?

          • They can look however old they want if their age is said to be 10 they are 10.

          • But what says they’re ten? Three sources say they are older.

          • Sources that you can’t seem to provide. The only one of which simply says they are “initially visualized” to be that age. What says they are 10 is EVERY prior game and EVERY subsequent game the protags are 10.

          • One that means nothing. And a second that is just Corocoro speculating because they know nothing.

          • … Corocoro gets its information from game freak. Why would they just randomly include that? They didn’t for any other games. Hilda and Hilbert being 16 makes sense story wise. Since they are supposed to be the opposite hero to N (Truth vs Ideals) N is confirmed to be around age 20. Putting them at a close age is logical.

          • Again I would like proof of N’s age as well.

          • “An article in the May 2013 edition of PASH! estimated that N is about 20 years old.”

            http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/N

            “N is 1.80 m tall (5’11”).”

            http://lmgtfy.com/?q=average+height+for+20+year+old+male

            But you’ll probably just deny that too

          • “Estimated.” Not official.

          • Jesus Christ, I could get Junichi Masuda over here to tell you he’s 20 and you would still deny it

          • No I wouldn’t. I only believe actual sources that don’t just make claims or say it is supposed to be something or was initially something.

          • Matsumiya literally said they were visualized at 16. Which means that they were planned to be older than other protagonists, as stated by CoroCoro. Their designes also appear alot older than previously and Gen 5 was the “reboot” gen.

          • Initially visualized doesn’t mean shit though. Look at Shinobu she looks 8 or so and is like hundreds of years old. And they were “planned” doesn’t mean shit either and Corocoro doesn’t know shit. And who cares if it was the “reboot” gen. So was XY.

          • Ok but 3 sources saying they are over 10, nothing saying they aren’t. Do you see the problem here?

          • I still only see 2 one of which means nothing and the other that knows nothing. I see no problem here.

          • The protags are always 10 for whatever reason.

      • PercyEspeon

        It’ll just take getting used to, for me.
        But I welcome change, so long as it’s being done well.

        • The purpose of the game has always been to travel around and beat the 8 Gyms and League and the villainous team. Not create your own Gyms and League. It’s just bs and I’m on the fence about this still. But if the rumors are true, then I’ll try to accept the change and hopefully it is executed properly if so. But if not, I’ll be retiring from the series after Sun and Moon.

          • PercyEspeon

            I agree with you on the fact that it is sort of a core purpose of the game, but I feel that doesn’t mean it can’t be changed up a little.
            Everything should be changed up sometimes 🙂

          • It’s just that I’m kinda going by the “If it aint broke, don’t fix it.” policy. They’ve been doing this same thing for 20 years and it’s obviously still drawing new Generations in. I have a 6 year old Godson/Cousin who loves Pokemon and we still have 20+ year old fans that play. So they’re doing something right. I just hope it’s either not real or if it is real, they’ll do it super good and bring back the Challenge System but revamped from Black 2 and White 2. You know the one I’m talking about?

          • Reece

            I don’t think they’d just abandon the whole Gym/E4 thing.
            Maybe it it’s true, it means that the leaders will be more pivotal in the story – a lil how the leaders in BW were more involved.
            You find a volcano fanatic and you convince him to become the fire type leader in his city, then fight him
            You come across a steel type trainer who’s sad and looking for a new challenge so you persuade him to a battle which relights his fire etc (lots of ways to do it)

          • There is a lot of potential if they can pull it off correctly. There’s 8 default Gym Leaders scattered around Alola possibly and you have to find them all and convince to fill the post of a vacant Gym.

          • Reece

            Point is, don’t think of it in a negative way, that it’ll turn into an aimless story where you do nothing.
            This is the 20th anniversary game, people didn’t like Megas at first but it really shook up the meta and it’s made things exciting.
            Change can be good, just gotta be open minded about it

          • Yep. I just hope it’s either not real or if it is real, they’ll do it super good and bring back the Challenge System but revamped from Black 2 and White 2. You know the one I’m talking about?

          • Reece

            I do remember that. I did White 2 on normal mode, then Black 2 as a challenge, was quite fun.
            I mean say the rumour is real and we have to “put together” 8 leaders, I’m sure they’d take advantage of that situation post game – especially with rematches etc

          • The teaser trailer says “It all comes together”. I just can’t shake that line and see them getting rid of such an old tradition, but that’s just me. If the leak is true, so be it. Just as long as it is executed properly.

          • Reece

            “It all comes together” could also be referring to the plot they’ve been doing in XY & ORAS and the whole energy thing and ecosystem

      • Anon

        Again BW made it feel fresh by having a good story with the old formula so no need to change the formula to keep things fresh

  • CoolGlaceon

    This Siren pokemon thing with beautiful blue hair makes Popplio’s baldness so funny all of a sudden and I have no idea why

    • “Be careful who you call ugly in middle school”

      • Ithsme

        *cough*froakie*cough*

        • Ultron

          TEPIG

        • Galemcaedus

          Greninja makes up for Froakie’s boring design

          • Ultron

            -Feels urge to rip Greninja apart-
            -Thinks back to numerous previous rants about Kalos starters-

            Greninja is….really nice….I love it….. :^)

    • Shady

      Actually the male sea lion have hair not actually hair it’s a mane…..that make sense although. http://www.thesealsofnam.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/South-American-Sealion-adult-bull.jpg

      • Galemcaedus

        Cutie

    • Galemcaedus

      YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

    • Galemcaedus

      The first one gives me pleasure

    • Yeah, I know he could be better but at least we got 2/3 of them good

      • But why fuck Litten the best one. >.>

    • David Nixon

      you know these are i like to call good potential evolutions for Litten. 😀

    • ^^ Agrees 100%

    • PercyEspeon

      All of the quad ones look amazing, especially the ones that utilize the ring of fire design.

      • Gikie

        I like the first the most, but they all do look awesome

    • Ultron

      Tylocaust though…? That’d go over well.

      • Ignore the names. The designs are what matter.

        • Ultron

          Yeah anything is better than rejected fast food mascot looking bitch. How do you ruin a tiger like that? Looks like straight shit. The artist should be ashamed

          • Since they are probably Japanese they should commit sepuku.

          • Ultron

            Damn. Things are getting heavy.

          • We don’t need them alive.

          • What the actual heck?

          • He should be extremely ashamed of this shit.

    • Hockward

      I don’t know… that last one seems pretty on-point with what I imagined.

      • Get out.

        • Hockward

          It’s exactly like what Diglett actually looks like if it were above ground. Flawless design, I say.