Comments on: Lore: The Epic Behind Pokémon

By: Double00sniper

Double00sniper — Sun, 13 Apr 2014 03:34:00 +0000

Honestly, I think that Arceus was created from an egg, created the Creation Trio, the Unknown, the Spirit Trio (Mesprit, Azelf, and Uxie), and the Weather Trio, who then went on to create the rest of the world, including Regigias. Also, at least in regards to Mew and Mewtwo, I believe Mew was created (as Vekxin said) as DNA maps, or as a creator of the “lesser species” (non-legendary Pokemon). Mewtwo was obviously created by Blaine and Giovanni, and as such Mewtwo has no “duty”. Why a Pokemon would – in the modern era – be called a god, is beyond me. I also believe that the Unknown were Arceus’ thousand arms, or at least helped him. Is there any evidence of true power coming from Unknowns, other than that one Pokemon movie, and the creation of one of the Creation Trio in HGSS? Usually, the Pokedex does have accurate – if useless – information, but it has gotten better over the generations, especially the Gen 6 dex, as my friend showed me. Ho-oh and Lugia would also rank up there in creation order with the Weather Trio. I’m not sure what else to talk about, but I will most likely post again.

By: Ebonyturle

Ebonyturle — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 00:11:54 +0000

Your’re writing was very compelling. I believe Arceus did create everything in the Pokemon world. I believe that Arceus created each legendary for a specific job to do. Arceus knew it was going to sleep for a long time a created these deities to act as rules over their respective planes. But this leaves many questions as well.

Why didn’t Arceus prevent evil organizations like Cipher, Rocket, Magma, Aqua, Galactic, and Plasma from bring harm to other pokemon or going after legendaries?

If each legendary has a purpose what are the purposes of legendaries like Mew, the “ancestor of all Pokemon” , Mewtwo, Manaphy, Phione, the legendary birds of Kanto, the legendary beasts of Johto, Regigias and the other Regis, the Muskeeter trio of Unova, and Genesect?

If the Unown are considered to be Arceus’ thousand arms, why are they rarely spoken of in legends?

What about the lives of Mewtwo, the Regis, and Genesect, should they be considered legends? Mewtwo and Genesect were created by evil people not by Arceus, and the Regis were created by Regigigas, how does Arceus feel about them?

Shouldn’t the other legendaries be considered Arceus thousand arms too, since they all came from him, and were used to create the universe/ fulfill roles?

Are the roles the legendaries are given just that or do they represent more than we think?

By: Deoxys911

Deoxys911 — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 18:53:48 +0000

I think that the Legendaries of creation myths (and ones like Mew and Regigigas that are involved with the games’ world’s history) are merely very powerful Pokémon that ancient people mistook for gods. I mean, if you saw a giant nearly-one-of-a-kind creature that could create land masses or create other powerful creatures at will, you would probably get the impression that they must be some sort of god, too! I believe the reason why each region has its own legends that never mention other regions’ Legendaries is because they were created long ago by different groups of people, akin to how Native American legends can vary wildly between tribes. These ancient people just thought, “You know, it would make a lot of sense if these creatures were the ones who created the universe!” So, yeah, basically no Pokémon is actually a god, and all of the legends we hear in the games are just that part of the world’s ancient myths. That my hypothesis.

By: charon

charon — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 07:30:52 +0000

for some reason I cannot open spoilers on the phone, but Ill comment already anyway.

Arceus is no god. It is merely a powerful extraordinary rare ancient pokemon, like the rest of legendaries of this caliber.
1. it doesnt even fit that description as it can be caught and used for battles like every other pokemon.
2. Nothing that is said about it, is considered fact, but always carefully refered to as myth and lore.
3. And when it does straightforward regard it as the creator of the universe in the dex (which has NEVER been serious about anything to begin with) it also explains it doing so with its 1000 arms. The sole purpose of including such an absurd statement is to hint at the whole story as fiction.
4. The most amazing feat we ever saw of it, was the birth of a dimension legendary in a ritual in HGSS. And for even this act it required the help of hundres of Unown…

Like with the rest, its as simple as that:
-ancient people witness legendary
-legendary shows of
-people making up a creation myth

By: Vekxin

Vekxin — Thu, 09 Aug 2012 07:07:36 +0000

Well as far as mew being the ancestor of all pokemon, I would not really say that. I honestly feel as if Arceus did create mew, many mew only as “DNA Maps” in case there be a great disaster that his Legendaries could not stop, or in fact even caused, which lead to a mass pokemon extinction. Maybe all the pokemon “except the mew” would actually die sadly, and Arceus would use the mew as a way to remake the world or at least the non legendaries.

Maybe the mew are not actually extinct, seeing as the are psychic pokemon, maybe they either made a dimension all their own, and maybe every now and then a few of them check in on the world, or just simpley use their transformation abilities to live among regular pokemon, with only a small few actually continuously in their Mew form.

The Pokemon I believe Arceus made

The ones we know of Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Lake Trio

Groudon The Creator of Land
Kyogre The Creator of the Seas

They were created and sent by Arceus to actually shape and mold the actual world, once they completed is when they actually went to slumber. (Not saying they never fought)

Rayquaza The Guardian of the Skies

Sent to the world by Arceus in order to keep peace, in case of the Land and Sea deities were to ever fight. Also to keep threats outside of the world, makes sense why it tried to kill Deoxys, right?

Lugia & Ho-Oh

Lugia was sent to Guard the Seas that Kyogre created, this Beast of the Sea, is more of a Guardian of the sea. Also created to keep the Birds in check in case they were to fight (that i can not explain)

Ho-Oh, watches over the pokemon of the Johto region and possibly the entire world, if anything were to happen, Ho-Oh would resurrect them or possibly just give them a 2nd chance at life as a Ghost type pokemon, or maybe that would be punishment, who knows? I would see the Resurrection as ghost types as punishment for being an ill pokemon, a bad guy if you will. Where as a full resurrection would signify the pokemon had lived right, whereas the resurrection into Legendary pokemon would mean those pokemon lived a life as guardians, protectors and Ho-Oh saw fit to give them a better chance at life. Which is why Entei Raikou and Suicune were brought back, eeveelutions are held in a kind of high regard in Ecruteak. Also while the tower burned down, (dont flame me) Flareon may have tried to go through fires using its flame retardant coat to geto trapped pokemon, Vaporeon struggled valiantly to extinguish the flames, while Jolteon tried to use its speed to run and get as many smaller pokemon as it could but in the end the three pokemon died a nobel death as they had gotten all the pokemon out yet stayed behind to try to save one last thing that was precious to them, the tower. Ho-Oh saw fit to bring them back, it did just that.

I want to write more guys but it is 2:07 AM here in Louisiana 🙂 happy reading

By: Avarule

Avarule — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:21:46 +0000

Arceus one up’d poor mew. XP Which one is the real/best god? That’s what I’d like to know.

By: Commander_Kasu

Commander_Kasu — Wed, 08 Aug 2012 01:38:35 +0000

In reply to moving. True xD

By: blubbel

blubbel — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 19:21:58 +0000

Well, I don’t believe that the myths contradict each other. Arceus was the first one and out of a mood (who knows exactly why?) it creates Dialga, Palkia, Giratina and the Lake Guardians, maybe more of the big ones. Matter seems to be formed by an interaction of Dialga, Palkia and maybe Giratina, also the earth. The Weather Trio changed and formed the world, but didn’t create it at first place. I guess the myth about Mew, that it’s the ancestor of all Pokémon is wrong, but it’s maybe the ancestor of all not legendaries and a few legendaries. The Original Dragon, I believe, was “just” another strong Pokémon, which doesn’t contradict any myth we heard about. To create one region doesn’t mean to create the world or the universe or so. Much like Regigigas pulled the continents… Just my thoughts ^^”
The Unown seem to be able to change dimensions and so on, so maybe they already exist before Arceus created this universe. When I think of their appearences in the movies 10 to 12, they’re in every “dimension” Oo Someone guessed, that they maybe are the “thousand arms” of Arceus, anyway they are important like legendaries.
And last: I think, Arceus is kind of a “god” in the Pokémon world, since it created the universe, but is not what we expect from a god (immortal, with unlimited strength, uncatchable, omnipresent, etc.). So, it’s not literally a god, but a creator deserves a good title, doesn’t it?
Sorry for the mass of text ^^’ Love this topic!
Besides this on point of critic mentioned by temp23, I really enjoyed the article and looking forward to the next one.

By: moving

moving — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 09:51:06 +0000

In reply to Commander_Kasu. There would indeed be more than the ones I listed. I said it would 'include' those as writing out a full list would have just wasted time and space. ;)

By: Commander_Kasu

Commander_Kasu — Tue, 07 Aug 2012 01:55:02 +0000

Wouldn’t there be other pokemon “gods” so ?

Celebi,god of woods
Entei,god of vulcanos
Jirachi,god of wishes
The sinnoh fairy trio ( knowledge,Willpower and emotion)
Darkrai,god of nightmares
Cresselia,god of good dreams
Heatran,god of magma
Shaymin,god of thankfullness
Victini,god of victory
Tornadus/thundurus,gods of storms
Landorus,god of fertility
Meloetta,god of music
Reshiram,god of truth
Zekrom,god of ideals
Kyurem,god of the lack of truth/ideals

There would also be protective deities,such as ho-oh and lugia for the towers,manaphy/phione and suicune for the seas ,the golems for the lands and the muskedeers for the normal pokemon.